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Mr. Laz
10-25-2012, 11:41 AM
If everyone knows the Chiefs are drafting first and can pick any player/QB they want.

vs

If they win 5 games and are picking 8-ish


(if Pioli is still here) How much does it mean for a new HC?

(if clean house) How much does it mean for a new GM and HC?

King_Chief_Fan
10-25-2012, 11:47 AM
If everyone knows the Chiefs are drafting first and can pick any player/QB they want.

vs

If they win 5 games and are picking 8-ish


(if Pioli is still here) How much does it mean for a new HC?

(if clean house) How much does it mean for a new GM and HC?

With fans booing players, banners being flown over head, media frenzy about Pioli.... who would want to come and coach this laughing stock?
I think we can plan that Pioli and Crennel are both here for next season.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-25-2012, 11:49 AM
I disagree. With a house cleaning and the option to draft Smith, we are VERY desireable.

Flachief58
10-25-2012, 11:49 AM
If Pioli is still here, Grandpa will be too. If Clark cleans house, I think the job would be pretty attractive

DJKid
10-25-2012, 11:53 AM
Even if Chunt cleans house, KC is still a small market. It's going to be hard to get any big name GM or HC. Chunt is going to have to get lucky and find that diamond in the rough IMO.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-25-2012, 11:53 AM
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Chiefnj2
10-25-2012, 11:56 AM
When Scott first took the job wasn't there an article about the little things Pioli was doing like no longer using color copies for meetings and printing on both sides of the page? I don't know if the GM still controls things like that, but if so, I can't imagine the job being too attractive. I want the GM to focus on football, not saving pennies by comparing Staples ink prices to what he can find on Amazon.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-25-2012, 11:56 AM
When Scott first took the job wasn't there an article about the little things Pioli was doing like no longer using color copies for meetings and printing on both sides of the page? I don't know if the GM still controls things like that, but if so, I can't imagine the job being too attractive. I want the GM to focus on football, not saving pennies by comparing Staples ink prices to what he can find on Amazon.

LMAO Great job, Scott.

htismaqe
10-25-2012, 12:11 PM
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I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating ice cream...

Rausch
10-25-2012, 12:13 PM
KC will be picking in the top 5.

That you can count on. It will happen.

I've always had the preference of having a GM with an override clause and a HC with more say...

ChiefMojo
10-25-2012, 12:15 PM
I would give that blonde a little vanilla ice cream!

Easy 6
10-25-2012, 12:15 PM
When Scott first took the job wasn't there an article about the little things Pioli was doing like no longer using color copies for meetings and printing on both sides of the page? I don't know if the GM still controls things like that, but if so, I can't imagine the job being too attractive. I want the GM to focus on football, not saving pennies by comparing Staples ink prices to what he can find on Amazon.

Count wins, not beans.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-25-2012, 12:16 PM
Count wins, not beans.

He should count the hairs on his FAIL ass.

Woodchuck
10-25-2012, 12:21 PM
It's not attractive at all. It would probably only be attractive to a first time head coach.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-25-2012, 12:24 PM
It's not attractive at all. It would probably only be attractive to a first time head coach.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Are you just being obstinate for the sake of being obstinate?

MIAdragon
10-25-2012, 12:26 PM
I would give that blonde a little vanilla ice cream!

It seems she likes chocolate. Her daddy is going to be pissed with all that shit in his RangeRover.

Chief_For_Life58
10-25-2012, 12:28 PM
egoli gone kc becomes the 9ers of last year with a fired up new gm/hc/qb...clark has to see this

Chief_For_Life58
10-25-2012, 12:30 PM
the amount of yardage jamal could run for with a qb that could throw it downfield is rediculous. he is the perfect running back for a deep thrower...hes so damn fast he would eat up yards like fat people eat dessert

the Talking Can
10-25-2012, 12:30 PM
if you want a big name retread (walrus, gruden, the chin) pioli has to go...they won't work with a phony asshole loser, and they have the weight to say so

if pioli stays, it really doesn't matter because we're fucked...he's an incompetent phony asshole loser...

if pioli stays, having the #1 pick and a presumed mandate to draft a QB should be enticing to a first time coach as a)they'd get say in the QB (hopefully) and b) the grace period of the QBs 'learning curve' (though maybe Rivera would like to chime in on that...)

Rausch
10-25-2012, 12:34 PM
if pioli stays, having the #1 pick and a presumed mandate...

If Pioli stays there is no mandate.

That idea is imaginary.

He's following Lamar's plan.

He gives complete trust in a man to run his team until he doesn't.

If Pioli is here HE'S HERE...

bricks
10-25-2012, 12:38 PM
Good question Laz. Who really knows? Im not certain if attractiveness has to do with the 1st overall pick. I think attractiveness towards an organization is determined by other factors.

Part of me thinks that attractiveness towards an organization is based on reputation. Or it could even be towards stuff like ownership credibility?

What bothers me the most is that this organization has had a losing reputation for the last 7, 8 years and seemingly so an absentee owner who does not get heavily involved nor has a winning first mentality. With that being said, I don't get the feel of KC being an attractive destination for a lot of the management executives across the league for those reasons.

As far as coaches go, I think attractiveness is due to their relationship/ties with the management staff. I mean we are seeing it now with all these Patriot trees/connections to Pioli(Daboll & Crennel). I would like to think that would same case situation if we decided to bring a new GM here.

the Talking Can
10-25-2012, 12:41 PM
If Pioli stays there is no mandate.

That idea is imaginary.

He's following Lamar's plan.

He gives complete trust in a man to run his team until he doesn't.

If Pioli is here HE'S HERE...

it's pretty clear (to me) we're drafting a QB next year with (likely) or without pioli...

Clark's a pussy and cheap ass and a loser, but he's not retarded like black boob...the only thing that is going resolve anything in the short term is a QB

CoMoChief
10-25-2012, 12:42 PM
The job would be attractive.....it's not a total rebuilding going on here.

Just a franchise QB....a lil Dline help and we're set.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-25-2012, 12:43 PM
The job would be attractive.....it's not a total rebuilding going on here.

Just a franchise QB....a lil Dline help and we're set.

Back to a 4-3, please.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-25-2012, 12:44 PM
Remember when Clay posted a dumbass picture of Cassel leading everyone off the bus and in to camp, with a caption about...

"They see us rollin' and they be hatin"?

Good FAIL, Good FAIL...

Rausch
10-25-2012, 12:45 PM
it's pretty clear (to me) we're drafting a QB next year with (likely) or without pioli...

Based on what?

And even if true why the fuck would we want Pioli drafting our QBOTF?...

Easy 6
10-25-2012, 12:47 PM
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Am i just too old to get it, or is that just ****ing pointless & stupid?

the Talking Can
10-25-2012, 12:49 PM
Based on what?

And even if true why the **** would we want Pioli drafting our QBOTF?...

cassel is gone, and pioli's failure beyond any argument

there is no other option..it is happening

and I can't do anything about pioli being here or not (though I hope the people in kc can), so I'm going eagerly await the QB

and first round QBs get coaches and GMs fired (because you don't blame the QB unless it is Russell..lol)...the QB will be here longer than pioli

man you guys are downers...I am up with people today

CoMoChief
10-25-2012, 12:53 PM
Back to a 4-3, please.

Now that WOULD require a full rebuild...at least in the front 7.....not wise at this point when you have 2 stud OLB's and a MLB who seems to finally get it and is playing at a all pro level from not being able to succeed in a 4-3.

The 3-4 is not out dated.....the kind of 3-4 we play IS outdated....need to attack more at the LOS. We don't do that....

soopamanluva
10-25-2012, 12:54 PM
Am i just too old to get it, or is that just ****ing pointless & stupid?

youre not to old....

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-25-2012, 12:55 PM
cassel is gone, and pioli's failure beyond any argument

there is no other option..it is happening

and I can't do anything about pioli being here or not (though I hope the people in kc can), so I'm going eagerly await the QB

and first round QBs get coaches and GMs fired (because you don't blame the QB unless it is Russell..lol)...the QB will be here longer than pioli

man you guys are downers...I am up with people today

This. :clap:LMAO

Now that WOULD require a full rebuild...at least in the front 7.....not wise at this point when you have 2 stud OLB's and a MLB who seems to finally get it and is playing at a all pro level from not being able to succeed in a 4-3.

The 3-4 is not out dated.....the kind of 3-4 we play IS outdated....need to attack more at the LOS. We don't do that....

Perhaps.....

Rausch
10-25-2012, 12:57 PM
cassel is gone, and pioli's failure beyond any argument

there is no other option..it is happening

No, it's not.

Pioli IS the failure.

WE WILL NOT LET THIS HAPPEN...

RustShack
10-25-2012, 12:59 PM
I don't think it makes us much more attractive. Its not like a QB like Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning will be available. Plus Pioli will still be here too.

Really to land a guy like Mike Holmgren, Clark will have to be the one who does it. He will also have to assure him that its his team, like what he did for Herm when Carl was here.

Woodchuck
10-25-2012, 01:04 PM
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Are you just being obstinate for the sake of being obstinate?

No, who wants to coach the shittiest team in the league? How many times did drafting #1 work out for HCs lately? They are usually three years and done. Even when they get a decent first round QB.

Detoxing
10-25-2012, 01:21 PM
If we win 3 games or less, the house gets cleaned. If we're in the 5-7 range, Pioli and Crennel will stay, QB will the be scapegoat (It's the only one Pioli has left) and a new QB will be drafted, Pioli extended, and 3 more years of development time will be bought.

DeezNutz
10-25-2012, 01:23 PM
When Scott first took the job wasn't there an article about the little things Pioli was doing like no longer using color copies for meetings and printing on both sides of the page? I don't know if the GM still controls things like that, but if so, I can't imagine the job being too attractive. I want the GM to focus on football, not saving pennies by comparing Staples ink prices to what he can find on Amazon.

Was he doing this of his own volition or because of demands by Clark?

threebag02
10-25-2012, 01:31 PM
I would give that blonde a little vanilla ice cream!

She's only seventeen

bricks
10-25-2012, 01:37 PM
If we win 3 games or less, the house gets cleaned. If we're in the 5-7 range, Pioli and Crennel will stay, QB will the be scapegoat (It's the only one Pioli has left) and a new QB will be drafted, Pioli extended, and 3 more years of development time will be bought.

I feel optimistic that the Chiefs could win 3 games. I think its very possible considering they have one of the worst coaching staffs in the league.

But, who knows if that would be enough to get either the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft?

whoman69
10-25-2012, 01:43 PM
I am of the opinion that first time head coaches are the best hires. I would never hire someone who had already won a Super Bowl so I don't know how valid the question really is.

I think the fact that we would be drafting a QB in round one would show this isn't the same old Chiefs.

Chocolate Hog
10-25-2012, 01:52 PM
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That girl was cute and had an awesome sense of humor.

I wonder if she's 18?

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Sweet Daddy Hate
10-25-2012, 02:11 PM
If we win 3 games or less, the house gets cleaned. If we're in the 5-7 range, Pioli and Crennel will stay, QB will the be scapegoat (It's the only one Pioli has left) and a new QB will be drafted, Pioli extended, and 3 more years of development time will be bought.

BOO! SUCK!

Frosty
10-25-2012, 02:19 PM
I really think both Pioli and Crennel will be back next year, regardless of the record (note - this is NOT what I want to happen). Crennel will be given another year to continue to "change the culture" from Haley's team (with the real reason being that Hunt doesn't want to be on the hook for paying him for the last two years of his contract along with a new coach's salary). According to TBG, Pioli has already been extended with Hunt being more involved in keeping an eye on him.

They will draft a QB (not necessarily a 1st round one) and there will be shake ups in the coaching staff including adding a full time DC. Then, when the record is still bad next season, it will because of growing pains of a young QB, who "just needs more weapons and the stability of the coaching staff" and everyone will still be here the season after that.

We'll be in Pioli hell for at least two more seasons, if not longer. :(

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-25-2012, 02:22 PM
I really think both Pioli and Crennel will be back next year, regardless of the record (note - this is NOT what I want to happen). Crennel will be given another year to continue to "change the culture" from Haley's team (with the real reason being that Hunt doesn't want to be on the hook for paying him for the last two years of his contract along with a new coach's salary). According to TBG, Pioli has already been extended with Hunt being more involved in keeping an eye on him.

They will draft a QB (not necessarily a 1st round one) and there will be shake ups in the coaching staff including adding a full time DC. Then, when the record is still bad next season, it will because of growing pains of a young QB, who "just needs more weapons and the stability of the coaching staff" and everyone will still be here the season after that.

We'll be in Pioli hell for at least two more seasons, if not longer. :(

BOO! SUCK!

Frosty
10-25-2012, 02:25 PM
BOO! SUCK!

It does.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-25-2012, 02:27 PM
It does.

Then it's up to us to continue embracing the suck and fostering the hate.

HATE ON.

Frosty
10-25-2012, 02:33 PM
Then it's up to us to continue embracing the suck and fostering the hate.

HATE ON.

Don't worry about that. I've been hating on Pioli since it was announced that he was hired.

I just don't think that Hunt is going to want to pay millions of dollars of the guaranteed salaries on top of the salaries of a new GM and new coach.

Plus, most coaches get at least two years (even Rich Kotite, one of the worst ever).

KILLER_CLOWN
10-25-2012, 06:30 PM
Am i just too old to get it, or is that just ****ing pointless & stupid?

You don't think she looks good with white all over her face?

Chief Roundup
10-25-2012, 06:35 PM
I would think it would be nice leverage. That way the GM and HC could change the direction of the franchise how they deemed fit.