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gblowfish
10-25-2012, 03:37 PM
Next week, hurricane winds with snow. I'm sure NYC will handle that well...
Story is here:
http://news.yahoo.com/noaa-east-beware-coming-frankenstorm-171317994.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — An unusual nasty mix of a hurricane and a winter storm that forecasters are now calling "Frankenstorm" is likely to blast most of the East Coast next week, focusing the worst of its weather mayhem around New York City and New Jersey.

Government forecasters on Thursday upped the odds of a major weather mess, now saying there's a 90 percent chance that the East will get steady gale-force winds, heavy rain, flooding and maybe snow starting Sunday and stretching past Halloween on Wednesday.

Meteorologists say it is likely to cause $1 billion in damage.

The storm is a combination of Hurricane Sandy, now in the Caribbean, an early winter storm in the West, and a blast of arctic air from the North. They're predicted to collide and park over the country's most populous coastal corridor and reach as far inland as Ohio.

The hurricane part of the storm is likely to come ashore somewhere in New Jersey on Tuesday morning, said National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration forecaster Jim Cisco. But this is a storm that will affect a far wider area, so people all along the East have to be wary, Cisco said.

Coastal areas from Florida to Maine will feel some effects, mostly from the hurricane part, he said, and the other parts of the storm will reach inland from North Carolina northward.

Once the hurricane part of the storm hits, "it will get broader. It won't be as intense, but its effects will be spread over a very large area," the National Hurricane Center's chief hurricane specialist, James Franklin, said Thursday.

One of the more messy aspects of the expected storm is that it just won't leave. The worst of it should peak early Tuesday, but it will stretch into midweek, forecasters say. Weather may start clearing in the mid-Atlantic the day after Halloween and Nov. 2 in the Northeast, Cisco said.

"It's almost a weeklong, five-day, six-day event," Cisco said Thursday from NOAA's northern storm forecast center in College Park, Md. "It's going to be a widespread serious storm."

With every hour, meteorologists are getting more confident that this storm is going to be bad and they're able to focus their forecasts more.

The New York area could see around 5 inches of rain during the storm, while there could be snow southwest of where it comes inland, Cisco said. That could mean snow in eastern Ohio, southwestern Pennsylvania, western Virginia, and the Shenandoah Mountains, he said.

Both private and federal meteorologists are calling this a storm that will likely go down in the history books.

"We don't have many modern precedents for what the models are suggesting," Cisco said.

It is likely to hit during a full moon when tides are near their highest, increasing coastal flooding potential, NOAA forecasts warn. And with some trees still leafy and the potential for snow, power outages could last to Election Day, some meteorologists fear.

Some have compared it to the so-called Perfect Storm that struck off the coast of New England in 1991, but Cisco said that one didn't hit as populated an area and is not comparable to what the East Coast may be facing. Nor is it like last year's Halloween storm, which was merely an early snowstorm in the Northeast.

"The Perfect Storm only did $200 million of damage and I'm thinking a billion," said Jeff Masters, meteorology director of the private service Weather Underground. "Yeah, it will be worse."

But this is several days in advance, when weather forecasts are usually far less accurate. The National Hurricane Center only predicts five days in advance, and each long-range forecast moves Sandy's track closer to the coast early next week. The latest has the storm just off central New Jersey's shore at 8 a.m. on Tuesday.

As forecasts became more focused Thursday, the chance of the storm bypassing much of the coast and coming ashore in Maine faded, Cisco said.

The hurricane center's Franklin called it "a big mess for an awful lot of people in the early part of next week."

acesn8s
10-25-2012, 04:04 PM
Gas companies should raise the price of gas to protect the global oil market from certain doom.

KChiefer
10-25-2012, 04:35 PM
Just saw this on the nightly news. Everyone on the east coast, stay safe.

Excellent name for the storm btw!

Dr. Facebook Fever
10-25-2012, 04:38 PM
The Mayans said this would happen.

Dylan
10-25-2012, 04:44 PM
Oh, dear - should I leave town?

TIA & GB

keg in kc
10-25-2012, 04:45 PM
It's the end of the world as we know it...

PGM
10-25-2012, 04:46 PM
Oh, dear - should I leave town?

TIA & GB

Stay safe!!

Halfcan
10-25-2012, 04:46 PM
Huricane Charles is going to hit Arrowhead on Sunday and cause damage on a fader team of Epic Proportions!!!

chefsos
10-25-2012, 04:58 PM
A few days ago, I thought about The Perfect Storm when that late season hurricane was projected to come up the coast and at the same time the storm front was rolling in from the west. It might suck.

I keep waiting for one of these bastard hurricanes to run right up Chesapeake Bay as forecasters sometimes predict. Now that would be a shittastic time.

Frosty
10-25-2012, 05:04 PM
It's the end of the world as we know it...

and I feel fine.

'Course I'm on the West Coast. Suck it NYC. :p

BCD
10-25-2012, 05:06 PM
Oh, dear - should I leave town?

TIA & GB

I have room for you... :D

ROYC75
10-25-2012, 05:52 PM
Oldest son is there with wife & kids, I better call them to see what their plans are.

MahiMike
10-25-2012, 05:55 PM
My daughter could have picked a better weekend to finally get her trip to NY.

Reerun_KC
10-25-2012, 05:57 PM
http://www.bloodshotgamer.com/guns/wellbye.jpg

The Mayor
10-25-2012, 06:23 PM
Shit.

Bump
10-25-2012, 06:34 PM
I'm here in Boston, I hope the shit hits the fan!!!!

lol, that's my only hope

Aries Walker
10-25-2012, 06:45 PM
I moved back just in time!

JD10367
10-25-2012, 06:47 PM
Calls for some tunes! One of the best instrumentals ever.

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Aries Walker
10-25-2012, 06:49 PM
That it does!

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Ceej
10-25-2012, 06:50 PM
The Day After Tomorrow????

Phobia
10-25-2012, 06:53 PM
Nice knowing you, Dylan. Get your affairs in order.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-25-2012, 07:13 PM
It sounds like everything is coming together for that. Very odd.

Well...good bye, New York lol

Discuss Thrower
10-25-2012, 07:18 PM
Somewhere an NYPD turned DEA cop is grimacing and popping painkillers.

Nicole Horne better watch her ass.

RJ
10-25-2012, 09:37 PM
A few days ago, I thought about The Perfect Storm when that late season hurricane was projected to come up the coast and at the same time the storm front was rolling in from the west. It might suck.

I keep waiting for one of these bastard hurricanes to run right up Chesapeake Bay as forecasters sometimes predict. Now that would be a shittastic time.


That's what Agnes did in 1972. Not good.

Dylan
10-25-2012, 09:45 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02068/getty_2068654c.jpg

Dr. Facebook Fever
10-25-2012, 09:52 PM
It's the end of the world as we know it...

I don't know about you but I feel fine.

BoneKrusher
10-26-2012, 03:53 PM
this storm will leave me w/o power for weeks. (so many huge trees in this area)

DTLB58
10-26-2012, 04:05 PM
It could leave some towns without power into election day. ROFL

Hanging chads anyone...

ChiefsandO'sfan
10-26-2012, 04:08 PM
Here in Maryland look's like a direct hit.

BoneKrusher
10-26-2012, 04:09 PM
Here in Maryland look's like a direct hit.

stay safe man, they say the outerband of wind could reach over 350 miles from the center.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-26-2012, 04:12 PM
It could leave some towns without power into election day. ROFL

Hanging chads anyone...

It's a conspiracy!

To DC we go lol

sd4chiefs
10-26-2012, 04:25 PM
stay safe man, they say the outerband of wind could reach over 350 miles from the center.

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Bump
10-26-2012, 04:29 PM
BRING IT!

Bump
10-26-2012, 04:29 PM
I just don't want to lose power. The boredom might kill me.

BoneKrusher
10-26-2012, 04:53 PM
I just don't want to lose power. The boredom might kill me.

same here.
i lost power for 4 days when the storms hit in June and the cel phone towers in this area were down as well.
with this storm they say power could be out for weeks.

chefsos
10-26-2012, 04:58 PM
same here.
i lost power for 4 days when the storms hit in June and the cel phone towers in this area were down as well.
with this storm they say power could be out for weeks.I think, in this day and age, that's shameful. It just shouldn't take that long to restore power to customers.

Dylan
10-26-2012, 05:13 PM
Oh. My. God. Scary video clip.


I am used to dialing up. Do you think restaurants will deliver?

What types of food should I buy in case of an emergency? Honestly, I do not each much.

I have a gallon of water and one of those super-sized flashlights. That is it. :(

JD10367
10-26-2012, 05:19 PM
Got my six gallons of water, my AA and AAA batteries, and--most importantly--a nice emergency radio that can be hand-cranked and also will USB charge a device (meaning I can power my iPod Touch, my Nook, and my cellphone if we have cell service). Bought bags of chips, boxes of crackers, some fruit cups, two loaves of bread, food for the cats.

Bump
10-26-2012, 05:29 PM
Oh. My. God. Scary video clip.


I am used to dialing up. Do you think restaurants will deliver?

What types of food should I buy in case of an emergency? Honestly, I do not each much.

I have a gallon of water and one of those super-sized flashlights. That is it. :(

should always have at least a weeks worth of water and dry food stored IMO

theelusiveeightrop
10-26-2012, 05:33 PM
Power outages suck.

Dylan
10-26-2012, 05:53 PM
should always have at least a weeks worth of water and dry food stored IMO

Oh, ok.

Thanks, Bump.

Bump
10-26-2012, 05:55 PM
Oh, ok.

Thanks, Bump.

I'm sensing sarcasm. But I can't tell if it's because it's obvious or if you think it's stupid to prepare.

bevischief
10-26-2012, 05:55 PM
Any chance this wipes out Congress and the White House?

Dylan
10-26-2012, 06:00 PM
I'm sensing sarcasm. But I can't tell if it's because it's obvious or if you think it's stupid to prepare.

Honestly, I am not being sarcastic. I've never been in this kind of situation before. New York City never takes a direct hit - We're used to heavy rains...Terrorism...

And my parents are out of town...

Dylan
10-26-2012, 06:04 PM
Any chance this wipes out Congress and the White House?

That bastard will be sleeping like a baby as my building floats away.

(sarcasm)

PGM
10-26-2012, 06:08 PM
Oh. My. God. Scary video clip.


I am used to dialing up. Do you think restaurants will deliver?

What types of food should I buy in case of an emergency? Honestly, I do not each much.

I have a gallon of water and one of those super-sized flashlights. That is it. :(

Stock up on can goods and you definately need more water. Get some more batteries too.

Mr. Laz
10-26-2012, 06:10 PM
Tebow should stop it

bevischief
10-26-2012, 06:11 PM
That bastard will be sleeping like a baby as my building floats away.

(sarcasm)

One can have hope of cleaning DC...LMAO

Dylan
10-26-2012, 06:12 PM
Stock up on can goods and you definately need more water. Get some more batteries too.

Thanks...Time to pay attention: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-26/nyc-officials-discussing-plans-to-evacuate-areas-close-subways

bevischief
10-26-2012, 06:15 PM
Another reason I live where I do.

Bwana
10-26-2012, 06:20 PM
Oh. My. God. Scary video clip.


I am used to dialing up. Do you think restaurants will deliver?

What types of food should I buy in case of an emergency? Honestly, I do not each much.

I have a gallon of water and one of those super-sized flashlights. That is it. :(

Think no electricity.......

Gallons of water (one for each day) drinking/food use

Flashlight with lots of extra batteries

Food that doesn't need to be heated with electricity/Non-perishable food.

Hand can opener

Car charger for you cell phone

Blankets

Extra cash, no electricity means the ATM's may be down along with a lot of other things

12 gauge shotgun :)

On a side note, this thing will be a big wind event but by the time it hits where it's going to hit, it will be less than a cat one. On the other hand, if things come together, you could get A LOTof snow.

Bwana
10-26-2012, 06:28 PM
Another reason I live where I do.

Yeah, but it gets cold enough over there to freeze your balls off, so it's all relative.

Dylan
10-26-2012, 06:32 PM
Think no electricity.......

Gallons of water (one for each day) drinking/food use

Flashlight with lots of extra batteries

Food that doesn't need to be heated with electricity/Non-perishable food.

Hand can opener

Car charger for you cell phone

Blankets

Extra cash, no electricity means the ATM's may be down along with a lot of other things
12 gauge shotgun :)

On a side note, this thing will be a big wind event but by the time it hits where it's going to hit, it will be less than a cat one. On the other hand, if things come together, you could get A LOTof snow.





Wow.. ATM's machines can be affected ... Thanks, for the heads up.

This is what I get for not paying close attention to the warning signs along the way.

Can you use a gas stove if there is no power?

PGM
10-26-2012, 06:35 PM
Also, some good books and a good man to pass the time :evil:

Bwana
10-26-2012, 06:35 PM
Can you use a gas stove if there is no power?

Indeed you can, if a gas line doesn't get take out. Do you have a gas stove?

bevischief
10-26-2012, 06:37 PM
Yeah, but it gets cold enough over there to freeze your balls off, so it's all relative.

That's wear layers come in.

Bwana
10-26-2012, 06:38 PM
That's wear layers come in.

:D

Dylan
10-26-2012, 06:41 PM
Also, some good books and a good man to pass the time :evil:

:D

On my way home tonight, I bought a Duracell 6 volt lantern battery - I have the lantern - But, the battery cost $23. Kind of expensive...No?

bevischief
10-26-2012, 06:43 PM
:D

And my Bassets.

Dylan
10-26-2012, 06:44 PM
Indeed you can, if a gas line doesn't get take out. Do you have a gas stove?

Yes...It has a pilot light...??

I better ask maintenance. These questions may sound silly to guys - But, I'm a girl - I'm not up on these things.

bevischief
10-26-2012, 06:51 PM
Tell us your situation apartment, house, whatever so we can help you or tell you to get the heck out of town. We don't need address.

PGM
10-26-2012, 07:01 PM
Tell us your situation apartment, house, whatever so we can send in the midgets to help you or tell you to get the heck out of town. We don't need address.

FYP

Dylan
10-26-2012, 07:13 PM
Tell us your situation apartment, house, whatever so we can help you or tell you to get the heck out of town. We don't need address.

I live in a 30-story high rise building on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.

The West Side of Manhattan is near the Hudson River. The East Side of Manhattan is near the East River - and both rivers connect to the Atlantic Ocean. Lower Manhattan has had flooding problems during hurricanes in the past.


PGM: LOL

What the hell is Mayor Bloomberg doing for us besides downsizing soda cups? He is another empty suit. No one is prepared for this hurricane. They're too busy killing each other over a parking spot.

cdcox
10-26-2012, 07:22 PM
It could leave some towns without power into election day. ROFL

Hanging chads anyone...

HARRP

bevischief
10-26-2012, 07:26 PM
I live in a 30-story high rise building on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.

The West Side of Manhattan is near the Hudson River. The East Side of Manhattan is near the East River - and both rivers connect to the Atlantic Ocean. Lower Manhattan has had flooding problems during hurricanes in the past.


PGM: LOL

What the hell is Mayor Bloomberg doing for us besides downsizing soda cups? He is another empty suit. No one is prepared for this hurricane. They're too busy killing each other over a parking spot.

Sounds like it from what found I have heard about his so far. What floor? So we can how much water you need

Ace Gunner
10-26-2012, 07:57 PM
I got fam in NYC & they are all bustin out the survival kits and trying to jettison children.

Ace Gunner
10-26-2012, 08:00 PM
I live in a 30-story high rise building on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.

The West Side of Manhattan is near the Hudson River. The East Side of Manhattan is near the East River - and both rivers connect to the Atlantic Ocean. Lower Manhattan has had flooding problems during hurricanes in the past.


PGM: LOL

What the hell is Mayor Bloomberg doing for us besides downsizing soda cups? He is another empty suit. No one is prepared for this hurricane. They're too busy killing each other over a parking spot.


bloomberg will have all those drones shoved up his ass if this storm does what forcasters are predicting. **** that douche and his billion dollar $urveillance cams.

Fat Elvis
10-26-2012, 08:13 PM
HARRP

Is there nothing Republicans won't do to suppress the vote?

GloryDayz
10-26-2012, 08:17 PM
Having lived in Va. Beach for MANY years and had up-close fun with hurricane Hugo, I'm glad I bought stock in duct tape last week....

Hang on folks, it's ride....

Bugeater
10-26-2012, 08:22 PM
Here in Maryland look's like a direct hit.
With any luck, you'll be out of power for a long time and it will spare us from your retarded posts and incessant twitter updates for a while.

Aries Walker
10-26-2012, 09:04 PM
Me: "Okay, so Dad, tomorrow [my brother-in-law] Rob and I are going to clean out your gutters . . . "

Dad: "Oh, you don't need to do that. They're just leaves, and the water comes down with enough force to just blast them out."

Me: "Umm, no. It's not a leaf, it's leaves, piles and piles of packed leaves, and the water doesn't lift them out, it packs them down."

Dad: "I've never had a problem with them before. They've warned about big storms before, and I just ignore them. I'd rather you use the time to shampoo the carpet and bug-bomb the room over the garage, so I can rent it out before November first."

Me: "Dad, this is not a normal storm. It's three storms coming together, and one of them is a hurricane that's already killed 20 people. It's going to be a major catastrophe, with high winds and constant, heavy rain for four days. They have no modern models for this storm. The entire meteorological community has never seen anything like it in their lives." (Thinking: "And besides, who would rent out a room during a hurricane?")

Dad: "All the more reason. The water will be stronger, and will just blast the leaves right out of there."

Me: "Dad, every news station, every weather forecaster, every single disaster preparation authority of every kind suggests to clean out gutters before a major storm, and this one may turn out to be the biggest storm in a generation."

Dad: "I don't care what they say. I've ignored it before, and they're fine."

Me: "Your gutters could fall off. The porch roof could collapse."

Dad: "I'm not worried about it."

Me: "Gah."

Chocolate Hog
10-26-2012, 09:08 PM
I live in a 30-story high rise building on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.

The West Side of Manhattan is near the Hudson River. The East Side of Manhattan is near the East River - and both rivers connect to the Atlantic Ocean. Lower Manhattan has had flooding problems during hurricanes in the past.


PGM: LOL

What the hell is Mayor Bloomberg doing for us besides downsizing soda cups? He is another empty suit. No one is prepared for this hurricane. They're too busy killing each other over a parking spot.

You're either rich or live in Hells Kitchen.

Bump
10-26-2012, 10:46 PM
man now people are saying it's could be the worst storm in recorded history. holy fuck.

Telling Northeasterners to chill is a bad idea. A local meteorologist explains why:

So here we are about 3 or 4 days away from what may be the worst storm for the Northeast since humans populated the area. I'm not kidding, that is a possibility. We know neither how strong this beast will be or exactly who will get the worst of it. Why? Because what is about to happen is unprecedented in the years that human have attempted to understand how the atmosphere works. Hurricanes have merged with colder air as an energetic jet stream interacts before. But perhaps not with the intensity of the factors coming into play this time. A similar scenario has happened before, back in 1991 ... the "Perfect Storm" of movie and book lore was born. Forecasts of that storm were awful leading up to it. The center of that system never made landfall along the East Coast. In fact, at its strongest the core of that storm was a few hundred miles east of New England. Here's what resulted: 80 mph winds and 25-foot waves on the Massachusetts Coast. Offshore buoys recorded 40-foot waves (that is enough to swallow a fishing boat). The Maryland Coast recorded record high tides. The lowest barometric pressure with that storm was 972 mb (that corresponds to 28.70" for those of you who are familiar with those units). Some computer forecast models drop the lowest pressure with Sandy to below 940 mb (27.75"). If you have a barometer at home, take a look at it - it doesn't go that low. If that occurs, this storm will bring the lowest barometric pressure ever recorded on the East Coast. Low pressure means wind, an tropical storm force winds already extend hundreds of miles away from the center of Sandy. Some believe as the storm approaches the coast it may intensify which means stronger winds. That means a widespread area of damage and power outages in the most populated part of the country. I feel there is a good chance we will still have some areas, perhaps entire communities, that lose power and still do not have it come Election Day a week later. Think about that ... no power on Election Day ... a hanging chad could pale in comparison.

But here's the problem ... the computer forecast models that all the forecasters will lean on so heavily have no chance of getting this exactly right. Models are either configured (numerically, in terms of the mathematical equations that drive them), to handle either tropical system well, or what we call mid-latitude systems well, that is ones with warm and cold air clashing. There is no model that handles both well. If there were we would have one great model and my life would be far less stressful. The hurricane will merge with colder air and energy from the jet stream and transition from a tropical system into what we call an extratropical one. Historically the computer forecast models are not good when this happens. The latest National Hurricane Center forecast takes Sandy early Tuesday into the New Jersey or Deleware Coast on a westward track (which by the way has NEVER happened since we have been keeping track of these sort of things). They may be weighing the models that handle tropical system a bit more heavily, but those models should become less accurate as the colder, mid-latitude air works into Sandy's circulation near landfall. As of early this afternoon we have a threat or landfall anywhere between the eastern shore of Maryland and Massachusetts. It may be later Monday or even as late as early Wednesday. We will hear about this storm for weeks after it happens. Homes will fall into the ocean and lives will be lost. If the damaging winds are widespread enough, it may be one of the costliest weather events in U.S. history due to the population likely affected.

Hopefully those near and along the coast in the Northeast are preparing for what will certainly be one for the ages.

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Aries Walker
10-26-2012, 10:55 PM
I would love a link to that source.

Bump
10-26-2012, 10:56 PM
I would love a link to that source.

http://www.reddit.com/tb/12524b

reddit, lol

my home away from cp

DaFace
10-26-2012, 10:56 PM
I would love a link to that source.

It's just a post from reddit, so take it with a nice helping of skepticism.

Aries Walker
10-26-2012, 11:03 PM
Drat. Never mind, then.

Rain Man
10-27-2012, 01:39 PM
I'm starting to think that this could be a legit storm. This article is saying that it could be a 500 year storm for a few isolated places: http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/27/us/tropical-weather-sandy/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Ultra Peanut
10-27-2012, 01:43 PM
On one hand, this is fascinating and weird and awesome. On the other, I don't want to be murdered over supplies in a post-storm New England hellscape.

Marcellus
10-27-2012, 01:44 PM
With any luck, you'll be out of power for a long time and it will spare us from your retarded posts and incessant twitter updates for a while.

LMAO

Flachief58
10-27-2012, 02:09 PM
Think no electricity.......

Gallons of water (one for each day) drinking/food use

Flashlight with lots of extra batteries

Food that doesn't need to be heated with electricity/Non-perishable food.

Hand can opener

Car charger for you cell phone

Blankets

Extra cash, no electricity means the ATM's may be down along with a lot of other things




12 gauge shotgun :)

On a side note, this thing will be a big wind event but by the time it hits where it's going to hit, it will be less than a cat one. On the other hand, if things come together, you could get A LOTof snow.






I would add that she should fill up her bathtub and anything else that holds water for toilet flushing

Rain Man
10-27-2012, 02:15 PM
I have a couple of cool emergency flashlights. One of them gets powered by shaking it, and the other one is powered by either batteries, a hand crank, or solar cells. I love the irony of a solar-powered flashlight.

redsurfer11
10-27-2012, 02:42 PM
Oh. My. God. Scary video clip.


I am used to dialing up. Do you think restaurants will deliver?

What types of food should I buy in case of an emergency? Honestly, I do not each much.

I have a gallon of water and one of those super-sized flashlights. That is it. :(


Buy lots of bottled water. Fill freezer with bottles of water. They will freeze and keep your food cold. You can drink them later when they defrost. Fill bath tub with water for flushing toilets. You will not be able to drink or cook with your tap water after the storm. Peanut Butter, Jelly, Tuna, Oatmeal, rice, crackers and bread.

MIAdragon
10-27-2012, 02:45 PM
I would add that she should fill up her bathtub and anything else that holds water for toilet flushing

Come on man you're from FL, you should have this shit down already. The tub should be filled with ice to chill the beer for the Hurricane party.

MIAdragon
10-27-2012, 02:45 PM
and gas, fill up now.

Aries Walker
10-27-2012, 03:24 PM
And get your prescriptions. And a car cell phone charger.

Pushead2
10-27-2012, 03:25 PM
time for lots of Frankenstorm babies.

Dylan
10-27-2012, 03:26 PM
You're either rich or live in Hells Kitchen.

LOL...Hell's Kitchen is Midtown West (side) of Manhattan in and around the Lincoln Tunnel - 9th Ave.

BCD
10-27-2012, 03:29 PM
You're either rich or live in Hells Kitchen.

What do you consider 'rich'?

Aries Walker
10-27-2012, 03:29 PM
Perhaps Dylan is secretly Daredevil.

Dylan
10-27-2012, 03:30 PM
Buy lots of bottled water. Fill freezer with bottles of water. They will freeze and keep your food cold. You can drink them later when they defrost. Fill bath tub with water for flushing toilets. You will not be able to drink or cook with your tap water after the storm. Peanut Butter, Jelly, Tuna, Oatmeal, rice, crackers and bread.

Thanks!

Chocolate Hog
10-27-2012, 03:36 PM
What do you consider 'rich'?

100k +

Dylan
10-27-2012, 03:52 PM
Breaking News: Hurricane Sandy Spins Towards Tri-State Area

The storm's effects will be felt here by Sunday evening

The first evacuations in New York have been ordered on Fire Island. Residents are to leave by 2 p.m. Sunday, the Islip town supervisor said.

New York City officials are warning that people in low-lying areas might have to evacuate. The city's emergency management situation room has been activated. :eek:

Mayor Bloomberg: Next press conference 6:00 p.m.

Evacuate? Where am I going to go? This is home....

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2012, 03:55 PM
Breaking News: Hurricane Sandy Spins Towards Tri-State Area

The storm's effects will be felt here by Sunday evening

The first evacuations in New York have been ordered on Fire Island. Residents are to leave by 2 p.m. Sunday, the Islip town supervisor said.

New York City officials are warning that people in low-lying areas might have to evacuate. The city's emergency management situation room has been activated. :eek:

Mayor Bloomberg: Next press conference 6:00 p.m.

Evacuate? Where am I going to go? This is home....

Follow all of the excellent advice in this thread and be safe, Dylan!

Dylan
10-27-2012, 04:07 PM
Thanks, Dane -

I especially appreciate the information and advice ChiefsPlanets' members have provided in this thread.

I am aware that some members have been through some tough weather situations -

Gonzo
10-27-2012, 04:14 PM
Arm Floaties, Dylan...

They'll save your life.

MIAdragon
10-27-2012, 04:15 PM
Breaking News: Hurricane Sandy Spins Towards Tri-State Area

The storm's effects will be felt here by Sunday evening

The first evacuations in New York have been ordered on Fire Island. Residents are to leave by 2 p.m. Sunday, the Islip town supervisor said.

New York City officials are warning that people in low-lying areas might have to evacuate. The city's emergency management situation room has been activated. :eek:

Mayor Bloomberg: Next press conference 6:00 p.m.

Evacuate? Where am I going to go? This is home....

Its vacation time, what ever you do, DO NOT wait until the last moment to leave unless you want to be suck in your car on the HW when the storm hits. Traffic is HORRENDOUS during evacuations. If you have to leave a car behind find a multi-level parking garage, park it on the highest floor that is still covered. These things are never fun.

notorious
10-27-2012, 04:15 PM
Arm Floaties, Dylan...

They'll save your life.

Don't forget a "Cocktail Floaty", too.


It'll save your drink from spilling.

Aries Walker
10-27-2012, 04:28 PM
My gas tank is full, I bought $186 worth of non-perishable groceries, and I got out extra cash. I made sure to get bottled water and batteries of all sorts. We (meaning my brother-in-law) cleaned out the gutters and trimmed back the encroaching branches today. Tomorrow I'm moving everything loose into the garage, getting anything which can be damaged by water off of the basement floor (it's prone to flooding) and putting the dehumidifier and every fan we have down there. We're eating all the uncanned meat tonight and tomorrow, and we're freezing every bottle of water we have. My car will be under the carport - probably the sturdiest structure on this property, thanks to the builders' liberal use of 4x4's.

I think we're good, but I worry about what we forgot to do.

Lumpy
10-27-2012, 04:38 PM
Arm Floaties, Dylan...

They'll save your life.

Don't be an idiot, Gonzo. Those only work for tornadoes. :rolleyes:

Stay safe, guys and gals!

notorious
10-27-2012, 04:38 PM
Dylan, from my understanding Dickheadson lives in NY. If you see him around, do us all a favor and kick him where he might have a penis.

Bugeater
10-27-2012, 04:42 PM
Breaking News: Hurricane Sandy Spins Towards Tri-State Area

The storm's effects will be felt here by Sunday evening

The first evacuations in New York have been ordered on Fire Island. Residents are to leave by 2 p.m. Sunday, the Islip town supervisor said.

New York City officials are warning that people in low-lying areas might have to evacuate. The city's emergency management situation room has been activated. :eek:

Mayor Bloomberg: Next press conference 6:00 p.m.

Evacuate? Where am I going to go? This is home....
I don't think you're going to drown in a high-rise.

Rain Man
10-27-2012, 04:53 PM
My gas tank is full, I bought $186 worth of non-perishable groceries, and I got out extra cash. I made sure to get bottled water and batteries of all sorts. We (meaning my brother-in-law) cleaned out the gutters and trimmed back the encroaching branches today. Tomorrow I'm moving everything loose into the garage, getting anything which can be damaged by water off of the basement floor (it's prone to flooding) and putting the dehumidifier and every fan we have down there. We're eating all the uncanned meat tonight and tomorrow, and we're freezing every bottle of water we have. My car will be under the carport - probably the sturdiest structure on this property, thanks to the builders' liberal use of 4x4's.

I think we're good, but I worry about what we forgot to do.

You should buy one of those inflatable life rafts, just in case.

I hope it ends up being a cool chance to sit in your house and watch a heavy rain, and nothing more.

notorious
10-27-2012, 04:53 PM
Battery powered radio.


That way you can listen to the Giants game.

chefsos
10-27-2012, 04:58 PM
It was panic central at the friendly local grocer today.

They rolled pallets of bottled water right off the trucks onto the store floor and they had to be replaced about every half hour, all day. Batteries and canned food (it's pretty much impossible to get Beefaroni, if that's what you want. I wonder how many of 'em will discover they don't have a can opener) cleared from the shelves as fast as they could restock them. There was a chick fight over a gallon of water yesterday. Good times.

chefsos
10-27-2012, 05:04 PM
You should buy one of those inflatable life rafts, just in case.

I hope it ends up being a cool chance to sit in your house and watch a heavy rain, and nothing more.It looks like the heavy rain will start tonight and continue without interruption until Halloween. And storm surge. And 30-45 mph wind. And leaves clogging everything. And full moon high tides too, just for fun. That's gonna be a lot of water.

ChiefsandO'sfan
10-27-2012, 05:08 PM
It looks like the heavy rain will start tonight and continue without interruption until Halloween. And storm surge. And 30-45 mph wind. And leaves clogging everything. And full moon high tides too, just for fun. That's gonna be a lot of water.

Western Maryland could see 50in of snow.

Bugeater
10-27-2012, 05:11 PM
Too bad there's not a MNF game in the area, that would be fun to watch.

mdchiefsfan
10-27-2012, 05:20 PM
It looks like the heavy rain will start tonight and continue without interruption until Halloween. And storm surge. And 30-45 mph wind. And leaves clogging everything. And full moon high tides too, just for fun. That's gonna be a lot of water.

What area of MD are you in?

chefsos
10-27-2012, 05:23 PM
What area of MD are you in?The part that's called, "Delaware".

mdchiefsfan
10-27-2012, 05:25 PM
The part that's called, "Delaware".

lol. Man, good luck over there.

The God Hypothesis
10-27-2012, 05:33 PM
I live in Severna Park, East of Baltimore and very close to the water of the Chesapeake Bay....I am gettign the fuck out of dodge and flying back to KC tomorrow morning with my prego wife and 2 year old daughter.

No way Im taking chances of long term black outs with my family. These idiots cant keep the power running when its sunny and 85 degrees out. My brother visited and likened the "brown outs" to his time in Iraq. To think, he didnt even venture into East Baltimore and yet his comparison is poignant.

mdchiefsfan
10-27-2012, 05:36 PM
I live in Severna Park, East of Baltimore and very close to the water of the Chesapeake Bay....I am gettign the **** out of dodge and flying back to KC tomorrow morning with my prego wife and 2 year old daughter.

No way Im taking chances of long term black outs with my family. These idiots cant keep the power running when its sunny and 85 degrees out. My brother visited and likened the "brown outs" to his time in Iraq. To think, he didnt even venture into East Baltimore and yet his comparison is poignant.

I'm not too far from you. I'll be riding it out. Not really any other option. My whole family is in the line of this storm.

The God Hypothesis
10-27-2012, 05:41 PM
I'm not too far from you. I'll be riding it out. Not really any other option. My whole family is in the line of this storm.

Whats your main concern around these parts? Power outage for an extended period of time was mine.

Im a Kansas Citian and have only been on the East coast for a few years. Long enough to experience an earthquake and Hurricane Irene. Im still somewhat ignorant to the dangers of the coast.

Aries Walker
10-27-2012, 05:53 PM
Power outage to me would be bad, but not terrible. The real dangers from what I see are flooding, and the winds. The "earthquake" was nothing and Irene wasn't much; the real one to look at here is Agnes in 1972 - a low-intensity but slow-moving soaker that fused with another storm and wiped out entire cities. Agnes did more than two billion dollars worth of damage - and those are 1972 dollars.

This one is much the same, but predicted to possibly be far worse, if for not other reason that Agnes didn't have the devastating winds - this one could come with 70 mph winds, gusting to 90, for something like two days. That's enough not only to bring down power lines, but a lot lot of trees as well. This land was all forest once; we have a lot of big, old, sometimes rotten trees that can flatten a house and everyone inside it. It's pretty scary.

The track is only going to determine who gets the massive storm. Some big city is going to get pulverized.

mdchiefsfan
10-27-2012, 05:58 PM
Whats your main concern around these parts? Power outage for an extended period of time was mine.

Im a Kansas Citian and have only been on the East coast for a few years. Long enough to experience an earthquake and Hurricane Irene. Im still somewhat ignorant to the dangers of the coast.

I live in Pasadena.

That's basically it for me as well (power outages). I didn't lose power during Irene. But I am smart enough to know that was dumb luck. I am not too concerned with flooding. The good thing about this area is the Eastern Shore and Delaware usually take the brunt of the storm for us (as far as storm surges go), sorry chiefos.

The earthquake on the other hand. **** that!!

The God Hypothesis
10-27-2012, 06:05 PM
Yes the trees here are soemthing that Ive always been impressed with since I moved here. Never realized how relatively "treeless" Kansas City is by comparison.

That "land hurricane" that pulverized us in June (?) was nothing compared to this thing. If the time it took to repair the grid after that is any indication, power may be out for a long, long time in some areas.

BCD
10-27-2012, 06:10 PM
100k +

LOL

No. Net even in mid-America.

Certainly not in NYC.

mdchiefsfan
10-27-2012, 06:15 PM
Yes the trees here are soemthing that Ive always been impressed with since I moved here. Never realized how relatively "treeless" Kansas City is by comparison.

That "land hurricane" that pulverized us in June (?) was nothing compared to this thing. If the time it took to repair the grid after that is any indication, power may be out for a long, long time in some areas.

God I hope they are prepared this time around. Should be an adventure, but at least I'll have time to finish reading The Walking Dead now.

Chocolate Hog
10-27-2012, 06:30 PM
LOL

No. Net even in mid-America.

Certainly not in NYC.

100k is a lot dude. I'd imagine living in a high rise in NYC would cost a lot even a small one would cost 800-900 a month unless you live in housing projects

BCD
10-27-2012, 06:31 PM
100k is a lot dude. I'd imagine living in a high rise in NYC would cost a lot even a small one would cost 800-900 a month unless you live in housing projects

100k is a lot. But it's not rich.

Flachief58
10-27-2012, 06:34 PM
Come on man you're from FL, you should have this shit down already. The tub should be filled with ice to chill the beer for the Hurricane party.

ROFL That's about right

BCD
10-27-2012, 06:35 PM
Rent in NYC is ridiculously high.

A nice 1 bedroom will cost you $2000+/mo.

tk13
10-27-2012, 06:36 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44004150/ns/business-real_estate/t/new-yorker-pays-month--square-foot-apartment

Right there's what $800/month in NY will get you.

Ace Gunner
10-27-2012, 06:50 PM
I have relatives, 3 fams living in brooklyn & lower east side manhattan. They all packed into SUV's and left for upstate NY today. I hope you folks living in the city get through this okay. It's still looking like a serious condition.

Bwana
10-27-2012, 07:25 PM
God I hope they are prepared this time around. Should be an adventure, but at least I'll have time to finish reading The Walking Dead now.

Dude, THEY aren't the ones than need to be prepared, YOU are the one that needs to get ready for this. From the sounds of it, the power could be out for a long time. At least there is plenty of time to get ready before it hits.

Aries Walker
10-27-2012, 07:31 PM
Yes, but being in Montana, you may not know the full depth of how poorly organized Pepco - Potomac Electric Power Company, the ones who bring power to my house in the DC suburbs - really is. I don't know who Pasadena has, but Pepco has done pretty poorly in the preparedness department in the past.

Dave Lane
10-27-2012, 07:36 PM
100k is a lot dude. I'd imagine living in a high rise in NYC would cost a lot even a small one would cost 800-900 a month unless you live in housing projects

Boy are you deluded...

Bwana
10-27-2012, 07:44 PM
Yes, but being in Montana, you may not know the full depth of how poorly organized Pepco - Potomac Electric Power Company, the ones who bring power to my house in the DC suburbs - really is. I don't know who Pasadena has, but Pepco has done pretty poorly in the preparedness department in the past.

What I'm trying to say is you know it's on its way, get ready for it. Water, food, blankets, etc. If you have your ducks in a row, it may be a pain in the ass, but you will be alright.

As far as the grid, it's all in tough shape across the country. One of my accounts is PPL, a coal fired power plant and they are in the same boat.

GloryDayz
10-27-2012, 07:45 PM
Just hang on tight....

Aries Walker
10-27-2012, 07:46 PM
The apartment I just had in Indy was about 750 a month. The same apartment here in the DC suburbs is about twice that. Make it triple downtown, and places like New York and San Francisco are several steps higher than that.

For $100K a year in Indianapolis, you can live like a king. In the big cities, not so much.

notorious
10-27-2012, 07:46 PM
Boy are you deluded...

Nah, he just hasn't lived outside of his safe-zone.

mdchiefsfan
10-27-2012, 07:48 PM
What I'm trying to say is you know it's on its way, get ready for it. Water, food, blankets, etc. If you have your ducks in a row, it may be a pain in the ass, but you will be alright.

As far as the grid, it's all in tough shape across the country. One of my accounts is PPL, a coal fired power plant and they are in the same boat.

I mean it's kind of obvious I should be prepared for whatever happens and I am. I just hope they have their shit together as well.

notorious
10-27-2012, 07:49 PM
I don't understand why a house that costs 3-400k in kansas costs well over a million to build in another area.


Do building materials cost more? Insurance? I know property value is higher, but does it really skew it THAT much?

Bwana
10-27-2012, 07:53 PM
I mean it's kind of obvious I should be prepared for whatever happens and I am. I just hope they have their shit together as well.

Snow/stong winds means there is going to be a lot of lines down, (some place) no two ways around it. It takes time to clear that many branches and re-hang the lines. Hey the main part of the storm may not hit your exact area, so none of that may happen, but someone is going to have to deal with it.

Bwana
10-27-2012, 07:54 PM
I don't understand why a house that costs 3-400k in kansas costs well over a million to build in another area.


Do building materials cost more? Insurance? I know property value is higher, but does it really skew it THAT much?

Demand

HonestChieffan
10-27-2012, 08:11 PM
Yawn. Did they give a sit about our drought? Storm on baby, storm on

Bump
10-27-2012, 08:13 PM
Yawn. Did they give a sit about our drought? Storm on baby, storm on

I did, I have a feeling the drought had to have played a role in the sudden appearance of black widow spiders at my mom's house. Scary shit.

notorious
10-27-2012, 08:14 PM
Demand

So the builder makes a shitload. Wow, that would be nice.

Brock
10-27-2012, 08:15 PM
I did, I have a feeling the drought had to have played a role in the sudden appearance of black widow spiders at my mom's house. Scary shit.

Weak winters.

notorious
10-27-2012, 08:16 PM
Weak winters.

This.


We had a bumper crop of Brown Recluses around our house.

MOhillbilly
10-27-2012, 08:21 PM
Visions of Thunderdome. Dyin time is here.

MIAdragon
10-27-2012, 08:32 PM
I don't understand why a house that costs 3-400k in kansas costs well over a million to build in another area.


Do building materials cost more? Insurance? I know property value is higher, but does it really skew it THAT much?

Yes.

Aries Walker
10-27-2012, 09:21 PM
I don't understand why a house that costs 3-400k in kansas costs well over a million to build in another area.

Do building materials cost more? Insurance? I know property value is higher, but does it really skew it THAT much?
It's the land the house is sitting on. Obviously, a square mile on Madison Avenue is going to be more expensive land than a square mile in Lame Deer, Montana. For everywhere else, it's just where on that spectrum it falls.

Brock
10-27-2012, 09:24 PM
It's the land the house is sitting on. Obviously, a square mile on Madison Avenue is going to be more expensive land than a square mile in Lame Deer, Montana. For everywhere else, it's just where on that spectrum it falls.

workers make more too. a lot more. Taxes are a lot higher. Everything costs more, plus the inevitable corruption in a place like NY.

Aries Walker
10-27-2012, 09:30 PM
What Brock said.

notorious
10-27-2012, 09:33 PM
workers make more too. a lot more. Taxes are a lot higher. Everything costs more, plus the inevitable corruption in a place like NY.

Union labor.


Gotcha.

NJChiefsFan
10-27-2012, 09:55 PM
I'm feeling the love guys.

tk13
10-28-2012, 10:15 AM
The storm is still out to sea, and Ocean City, Maryland is already flooding.

http://t.co/fkS4oDuC

Be interesting to see if Bloomberg is going to pull a Ray Nagin by saying this thing won't be as bad as Irene for NYC.

DaFace
10-28-2012, 01:56 PM
For anyone who's curious, here's a pretty good article that attempts to separate the hype from the reality of this storm.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-yeager/frankenstorm-fact-and-fic_b_2030329.html

MahiMike
10-28-2012, 02:59 PM
My daughter finally gets her long-awaited trip to NY. Now she's stuck there. Flight already cancelled for tomorrow.

blsilks
10-28-2012, 03:00 PM
It has come to wipe out all of the liberals just before the election.

sd4chiefs
10-28-2012, 04:16 PM
OMG!

http://gizmodo.com/5955575/earth-photo-shows-sandys-massive-size

BWillie
10-28-2012, 04:21 PM
Its gonna be a tropical depression when it hits and not even a noreaster.. .big fcking deal

WV
10-28-2012, 04:31 PM
Its gonna be a tropical depression when it hits and not even a noreaster.. .big fcking deal

Depending on where you are this thing will be pretty bad. I know here they are calling for around 7" of rain and sustained winds of 30-40mph with gusts of up to 60mph.

DaFace
10-28-2012, 04:33 PM
Its gonna be a tropical depression when it hits and not even a noreaster.. .big fcking deal

If you read the article I posted, the issue is that this "hybrid" storm won't weaken like a normal tropical storm - it'll get stronger. They're saying that they could have hurricane force winds hundreds of miles inland where they've never seen winds like that before.

The Iron Chief
10-28-2012, 04:33 PM
http://s17.postimage.org/nz8f95qd7/mms_picture.jpg?noCache=1351464092


The eyes supposedly coming right over my house Monday eve thats a picture of Wegmans just before Chiefs kick off.
The storms been downgraded where I live just a hair.
10 inches of rain instead of 14+
35 mph gusts of 50 instead of 50 mph gusts of 75.

DaFace
10-28-2012, 04:36 PM
http://us.mg6.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=2_0_0_1_1217347_ALfuHkgAAXInUI2wswAj2g3Sknw&pid=2&fid=Inbox&inline=1


The eyes supposedly coming right over my house Monday eve thats a picture of Wegmans just before Chiefs kick off.
The storms been downgraded where I live just a hair.
10 inches of rain instead of 14+
35 mph gusts of 50 instead of 50 mph gusts of 75.

Looks like that's a link from your email, so it's a red X.

BCD
10-28-2012, 06:01 PM
Its gonna be a tropical depression when it hits and not even a noreaster.. .big fcking deal

Do you enjoy looking like an idiot?

:)

DaFace
10-28-2012, 10:56 PM
Pretty helpful (but long) explanation of the overall potential impact from reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/127tb4/hurricane_sandy_would_anyone_mind_discussing_its/c6svz5x

There are probably a number of engineers and meteorologists who can go in to greater detail and cover things I'll miss, but I'll take a wack at detailing the most significant impacts.

Hurricanes have three primary destructive forces you have to worry about. Rain, Wind, and Storm Surge. There are others, such as tornadoes, and lightning, but they are on a much smaller scale.

Lets go in order of destructive potential, least to greatest.

Outside of the most powerful hurricanes (realistically, Category 3 and up), the wind is not in and of itself particularly destructive, and the highest winds tend to be extremely localized around the eye. The 80mph wind Sandy is likely to have when she comes ashore, in any smaller scale (a thunderstorm, for instance), would be little more than a passing annoyance. It would knock down some trees and powerlines, maybe rip shingles and siding off some houses, perhaps even break a few windows from flying debris. Cleanup from a thunderstorm like that would generally take a few days at most. However, when that wind covers an area of hundreds or thousands of square miles, instead of tens, you get some new challenges. The sheer scale of this relatively moderate damage makes restoring power and opening roads a major task that can take days. This is doubly true in a very densely populated area like the DC/NY/Boston corridor. More infrastructure means more infrastructure that can be damaged, and in the case of restoring power, things have to be done in a particular order, which complicates and slows the entire effort. You aren't looking at hundreds of square miles of buildings flattened like we saw with Katrina and Andrew. Just a lot of people without power, possibly without water. The most destructive wind will generally start to wane within about 100 miles of the storm coming ashore, especially with a weaker storm like Sandy.

Next up is rain. Hurricanes are big, and big weather systems rarely move quickly. Hurricanes also hold an enormous amount of moisture aloft. Sandy can reasonably be expected (and is forecast) to produce rain fall rates exceeding 1 inch per hour. Because it's moving slowly, it is realistic to expect some areas will see total rainfall exceeding 12 inches. Except for the very highest ground (and even then, only high ground with excellent drainage) or areas very near the shore, this is going to cause flooding. There is simply no avoiding it. Ditches will turn in to small streams. Small streams will turn in to raging white water rapids, and both will have a tendency to jump banks, which can cause property flooding and road closures. Large rivers could rise several feet, flooding areas near their banks, and areas that are poorly drained will suffer serious ponding of water that will also close roads and damage property. This can be expected to reach up to 250 miles inland . This sort of flooding tends to be relatively short lived, and major property damage will occur in pockets in the most flood prone areas. This is the first threat that has the potential to displace large numbers of people for prolonged periods of time, but the sporadic distribution makes it easier to deal with. Again, you aren't going to see hundreds or thousands of square miles rendered uninhabitable like we saw with Katrina's flooding of New Orleans. The amount of steady rain that the PA/NY/MD area is receiving in advance of this storm isn't going to help though. Here in western PA, we've already received about an inch of rain in the last 36 hours, and the ground will likely saturate long before Sandy actually arrives.

The last, and most worrisome risk with Sandy is the Storm Surge. Hurricanes move a hell of a lot of ocean water around, by sheer force of wind across the surface. They also create a sort of 'bulge' of water directly below them from the low air pressure, and the inward and upward air motion at the center of the storm. The pressure induced surge is very close to the eye. The wind driven surge tends to be on the northwestern corner of the storm, when it's making landfall from the east like Sandy is. This is because of what they call the 'onshore fetch'. As the winds rotate around the center of the storm, the point where they impact the shore closest to a right angle tends to be where you get the largest surge. When these high water events coincide with a normal high tide, bad things happen. Luckily, right now, the NHC is expecting landfall somewhere between midnight and 4am on Tuesday. This is good, this is near low tide, but they still expect tides to be 6-11 feet above normal.

If you think about how much of the area around NYC and coastal New Jersey are only a few feet above the beach, or exist along the rivers, which are even closer to sea level, you can get an idea of how much of the region is likely to suffer significant flooding. Storm surge tends to destroy buildings right along the coast through wave action, and render buildings further inland, especially near coastal rivers, uninhabitable just through water damage, and the long term complications of that. Mold, mud, and limited availability of building supplies and manpower make recovering from widespread storm surge events a protracted process.

If the storm were to slow down by about 7 hours, and make landfall around 9am Tuesday, at its current projected landfall in central or northern New Jersey, it could be a worst case for NYC, because that maximum storm surge on the northwestern corner will drive water right in to the Hudson, at high tide.

All of that said, it boils down to this. This is not going to be a Katrina caliber storm. There's a hell of a lot of infrastructure in the region that is going to ensure a rapid response from emergency workers and the government. They've got a lot of warning. Katrina intensified rapidly right before landfall, Sandy isn't likely to. Also, the area isn't apt to flood and then stay flooded like New Orleans did.

You're going to see a huge chunk of real estate without power, probably in to the weekend, but it should rapidly recover after that. You're going to see a huge chunk of real estate under water, but it should subside by Thursday. The number of people who live above street level in that region, and the cold weather behind the storm, should keep the number of displaced people to a manageable number. There will still be thousands. Maybe tens of thousands, but you aren't going to see the hundreds of thousands of people that are rendered homeless long term like you saw on the Gulf Coast. The fact that there is high ground readily accessible from these areas (looking at topo maps of coastal NY and NJ, virtually nobody is more than 10 miles from land higher than 100 feet above sea level, and nobody in the low areas is very far from buildings higher than 3 stories) you aren't going to see the massive humanitarian crisis that delayed evacuation and rescue caused in the Gulf Coast.

It's going to suck. It's going to shut down the NYC area for probably close to a week. It's going to cause miserable weather and widespread power outages reaching well in to eastern PA, New Jersey, eastern MD, and southern New York. It's going to ruin trick-or-treat. It isn't going to kill thousands. It isn't going to leave hundreds of thousands homeless for months or years. It isn't going to render large swaths of urban areas uninhabitable.

It is going to give an election weary public and media something else to talk about for a week.

Qualifications: 20 years as a storm chaser and amateur meteorologist, including 8 years chasing hurricanes in the Gulf States. 10 years doing disaster prep and relief volunteer work. 5 Years as a volunteer firefighter, numerous responses to storm damage calls.

GoChargers
10-28-2012, 11:00 PM
All my classes got cancelled for tomorrow, so this storm will suck incrementally less for me. But damn, that's a big-ass storm. Knowing National Grid, people's power will be out for at least a week.

Bump
10-28-2012, 11:09 PM
looks like its supposed to go west in land right before boston. cool.

Aries Walker
10-28-2012, 11:56 PM
The only disagreement I have with the Reddit post quoted by DaFace above is not really even a disagreement, but an expounding on the section on rain. Unlike the relatively flat and even area around Louisiana, the mid-Atlantic is on the fall line of an old granite mountain range, with plenty of river valleys carving channels into the rock. As a result, a terrible rainstorm like this can cause horrendous damage if a localized cell of rain hits the right - that is, wrong - place. In the case of Agnes in 1972, that place was the area around Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, a coal mining town on the banks of the Susquehanna, which was submerged in flood water to the ceilings of two story buildings. It caused tremendous loss of property before it was washed away; the effects are still being felt today.

So, usually, the rain is as he described, but it has the capacity to do even more damage than the storm surge, if it hits the right place. And there are a lot of right places round here.

BryanBusby
10-29-2012, 02:40 AM
Its gonna be a tropical depression when it hits and not even a noreaster.. .big fcking deal
Yeah except for the fact that it's actually going to get stronger once it hits the coast.

chefsos
10-29-2012, 05:56 AM
Rain and wind is getting pretty hard now...and it's just getting started. Two full days to go. Sandy (that bitch) is still 300 miles away.

I attempted to go to work today, but apparently they're taking the state of emergency and travel ban seriously. Everything's closed.

Aries Walker
10-29-2012, 06:30 AM
I just saw a graphic predicting the wind strength. The 74-mph-and-enough blob was larger than Delaware. The storm is immense.

Bwana
10-29-2012, 06:38 AM
I just saw a graphic predicting the wind strength. The 74-mph-and-enough blob was larger than Delaware. The storm is immense.

Yeah, there is going to be a lot of flooding. Best of luck dude, stay safe.

AussieChiefsFan
10-29-2012, 06:40 AM
Good luck everyone. Stay safe.

BoneKrusher
10-29-2012, 06:44 AM
Blizzard Conditions here for the next 48 hrs.
the winds are supposed to get to 40-45 mph here with gust over 60 and over 2 feet of snow mixed with ice.
already have three inches on the ground.

AussieChiefsFan
10-29-2012, 06:47 AM
Is this affecting the Midwest/north at all?

chefsos
10-29-2012, 06:53 AM
Is this affecting the Midwest/north at all?She's pushing some shit out to the Great Lakes and up through Canada already.

http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/satellite/reg/index.php?type=usa-wv-48

AussieChiefsFan
10-29-2012, 06:56 AM
She's pushing some shit out to the Great Lakes and up through Canada already.

http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/satellite/reg/index.php?type=usa-wv-48

Wow

Deberg_1990
10-29-2012, 07:21 AM
IM sure its been discussed already, but is anyone else getting the feeling the weather community is pulling a "Katie Horner" with this storm?

chefsos
10-29-2012, 07:32 AM
IM sure its been discussed already, but is anyone else getting the feeling the weather community is pulling a "Katie Horner" with this storm?There might be some truth to that, inasmuch as the circumstances that led to all this have never really been seen before by the weather folks. They're excited.

There is some weird stuff going on though. This storm is still in the Atlantic, and it's now pounding the hell out of Chicago's lakeshore.

Aries Walker
10-29-2012, 07:49 AM
Who is Katie Horner?

BCD
10-29-2012, 07:49 AM
Blizzard Conditions here for the next 48 hrs.
the winds are supposed to get to 40-45 mph here with gust over 60 and over 2 feet of snow mixed with ice.
already have three inches on the ground.

Shit. Where?

PGM
10-29-2012, 07:50 AM
Stay safe everyone. Hopefully took the great advice in this thread and are all prepared.

BoneKrusher
10-29-2012, 08:03 AM
Shit. Where?

Bluefield Virginia

Woodchuck
10-29-2012, 08:09 AM
Bluefield Virginia

WOW! Take care dude.

BoneKrusher
10-29-2012, 08:11 AM
WOW! Take care dude.

Thanks Mugsy, i'm gonna try my Best Man.

chefsos
10-29-2012, 09:04 AM
Well, she's not weakening as she approaches; actually getting stronger. 90 mph now at the center of the storm. Shit.

tk13
10-29-2012, 09:54 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/29/us/sandy-bounty-ship/index.html

Well this is scary. A famous ship that has been used in several movies was about 90 miles off the NC coast for some reason. It lost power and started taking on water, and they had to abandon ship. Two crew members are still missing out at sea. Coast Guard is looking for them, but that can't be easy.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-29-2012, 10:00 AM
Prayers go out to all ya'll. Stay safe.

DaFace
10-29-2012, 10:04 AM
IM sure its been discussed already, but is anyone else getting the feeling the weather community is pulling a "Katie Horner" with this storm?

There's definitely a little of that, which is why I've been seeking out rational explanations of the possible effects (posted above). In short, the issue is that this isn't likely going to be a historic storm in terms of the SEVERITY of the damage, but more the SCOPE of the damage. The last estimate I saw put the number of people who could be impacted by this thing at about 60 million. That's insane.

chefsos
10-29-2012, 10:06 AM
Atlantic City is getting wasted and the real shit hasn't even begun.

Boardwalk is now Atlantic Ave!

http://p.twimg.com/A6Yk-O7CQAEruwi.jpg

http://topsy.com/s/atlantic+city/image?order=date&window=h#preview

tk13
10-29-2012, 10:08 AM
Yeah, but if you're in an area that gets flooded out and you're trapped without power for a week, you would probably punch anyone who thinks this is a Katie Horner situation in the face. People always think weather is overblown until it happens to them.

Brock
10-29-2012, 10:08 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/29/us/sandy-bounty-ship/index.html

Well this is scary. A famous ship that has been used in several movies was about 90 miles off the NC coast for some reason. It lost power and started taking on water, and they had to abandon ship. Two crew members are still missing out at sea. Coast Guard is looking for them, but that can't be easy.

:shake: What the hell were these people thinking?

Bearcat
10-29-2012, 10:13 AM
Who is Katie Horner?

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r143/bearcat2002/katie.png

Ultra Peanut
10-29-2012, 10:17 AM
I'm just glad our weakest tree fell during Irene and our neighbors' scary overhanging tree got taken down by last year's Halloween nor'easter. I'd be way more worried about my personal safety had that not happened.

ChiefsandO'sfan
10-29-2012, 10:20 AM
<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=2rnfz7s" target="_blank"><img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/2rnfz7s.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>


Ocean City MD

Bowser
10-29-2012, 10:23 AM
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r143/bearcat2002/katie.png

Heh. Never will this get old.

Bowser
10-29-2012, 10:24 AM
<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=2rnfz7s" target="_blank"><img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/2rnfz7s.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>


Ocean City MD

Damn.

Stay safe out there, everyone.

durtyrute
10-29-2012, 10:29 AM
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r143/bearcat2002/katie.png

Areas of Certain Death!!

ROFLROFLROFL

chefsos
10-29-2012, 11:01 AM
I guess this is a tweet. I don't know.

Virginia Heffernan, Y! News: What steps are taken, if any, to protect NY trees, Jason? Do you know?

Fuck the goddamn trees! My answer would have been to chainsaw 'em all down last night, to protect power lines and, you know, people.

Bump
10-29-2012, 11:02 AM
its just a bit windy here in Boston, no big deal so far.

L.A. Chieffan
10-29-2012, 11:05 AM
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/679465530.jpg?key=709534&Expires=1351531329&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=dFY1jNaBSB-24WSjpNKwQmxCwn79sPknOuGk0tqDCvWo13c7AuSoS7vaohKW9Yy541ScI4TLh~-Yq9iWdZ9XqwdwJwOovNGeHTglg4EpBDMeBB7ojnmqAySUXaQO6MyEtglwEBMruGcpqOQ65yuRIe4ByFVlomGt05MDLrc9BZM_

chefsos
10-29-2012, 11:07 AM
That's sign language for "We're double fisted", isn't it?

Bowser
10-29-2012, 11:07 AM
its just a bit windy here in Boston, no big deal so far.

Maybe you guys will miss the WICKHAD PISSAH part of the storm.

Bowser
10-29-2012, 11:08 AM
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/679465530.jpg?key=709534&Expires=1351531329&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=dFY1jNaBSB-24WSjpNKwQmxCwn79sPknOuGk0tqDCvWo13c7AuSoS7vaohKW9Yy541ScI4TLh~-Yq9iWdZ9XqwdwJwOovNGeHTglg4EpBDMeBB7ojnmqAySUXaQO6MyEtglwEBMruGcpqOQ65yuRIe4ByFVlomGt05MDLrc9BZM_

The sign language lady looks to be communicating that the zombie apocolypse is upon us.

Bump
10-29-2012, 11:08 AM
Maybe you guys will miss the WICKHAD PISSAH part of the storm.

lol I hope so

Bugeater
10-29-2012, 11:14 AM
Why does the guy in the back look like he's about to cry?

KC_Lee
10-29-2012, 11:17 AM
Why does the guy in the back look like he's about to cry?

He wants a 32oz soda and Bloomberg took them all away?

Bump
10-29-2012, 11:17 AM
according to one Christian leader, the gheys are responsible for this storm.

ROFL

A Christian religious leader has already claimed that Hurricane Sandy is further proof that “God is systematically destroying America” as political judgment for the “homosexual agenda.” John McTernan previously made similar allusions about Hurricanes Katrina (2005) and Isaac (2012), which he reiterated in his urgent call to prayer posted Sunday evening (via Gay Star News):
http://www.reddit.com/tb/12a0mb

the worst part is, there are gonna be a lot of his followers being all like "AMEN to that brother"

Rausch
10-29-2012, 11:20 AM
according to one Christian leader, the gheys are responsible for this storm.

ROFL

A Christian religious leader has already claimed that Hurricane Sandy is further proof that “God is systematically destroying America” as political judgment for the “homosexual agenda.”

The last 12 years it sure looks like someone hates us, that I'll agree with.

But God punishing America for gay's by destroying every place other than the Gay Mecca (SF?)

Sure.

Makes sense...

Aries Walker
10-29-2012, 11:32 AM
By McTernan's reasoning, every player on the Chiefs roster would have to be a raging homosexual.

L.A. Chieffan
10-29-2012, 11:45 AM
Bright and sunny 80 degrees today. Might have lunch out on the patio.

ChiefMojo
10-29-2012, 11:46 AM
Guess they are talking that the Great Lakes will even be battered pretty badly.... crazy storm!

Aries Walker
10-29-2012, 11:55 AM
Welcome to Brigantine Beach, New Jersey.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/aries_walker/BrigantineBeach.jpg

L.A. Chieffan
10-29-2012, 11:57 AM
Welcome to Brigantine Beach, New Jersey.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/aries_walker/BrigantineBeach.jpg

thats good weather stripping

ChiefsandO'sfan
10-29-2012, 11:57 AM
It's nasty here and the eye is still far away.

BCD
10-29-2012, 11:59 AM
according to one Christian leader, the gheys are responsible for this storm.

ROFL

A Christian religious leader has already claimed that Hurricane Sandy is further proof that “God is systematically destroying America” as political judgment for the “homosexual agenda.” John McTernan previously made similar allusions about Hurricanes Katrina (2005) and Isaac (2012), which he reiterated in his urgent call to prayer posted Sunday evening (via Gay Star News):
http://www.reddit.com/tb/12a0mb

the worst part is, there are gonna be a lot of his followers being all like "AMEN to that brother"LMAO Those crazy Christians...

chefsos
10-29-2012, 12:05 PM
It's nasty here and the eye is still far away.It's getting here pretty fast, though. And still turning left, so instead of hitting Jersey that bitch is coming straight for me.

QuikSsurfer
10-29-2012, 12:08 PM
Brigantine Beach sea wall collapsed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6ZBal6CYAALCGG.jpg:large

ChiefsandO'sfan
10-29-2012, 12:08 PM
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/photo-galleries/2012/10/26/tracking-hurricane-sandy/photo-260833/


significant damage from Sandy to the downtown pier at Ocean City’s

Bugeater
10-29-2012, 12:14 PM
Welcome to Brigantine Beach, New Jersey.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/aries_walker/BrigantineBeach.jpg
That is unbelievable...not a drop of water on the floor. Whoever made that door should use that pic as a marketing tool.

chefsos
10-29-2012, 12:18 PM
That is unbelievable...not a drop of water on the floor. Whoever made that door should use that pic as a marketing tool.I'm starting to wonder if that one is fake.

Fruit Ninja
10-29-2012, 12:18 PM
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/photo-galleries/2012/10/26/tracking-hurricane-sandy/photo-260833/


significant damage from Sandy to the downtown pier at Ocean City’s

Im sure tons of piers and shit like that are going to be wiped out. Thats alot of pressure from the water. It just gives people jobs when its all over. I guess you gotta look at it that way

Ghost of Maslowski
10-29-2012, 12:36 PM
the Graveyard of the Atlantic has claimed another victim. (http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/29/us/sandy-bounty-ship/index.html)

spanky 52
10-29-2012, 12:48 PM
The track of this storm has pretty much been predicted for over a week. What the hell were they doing out there?

gblowfish
10-29-2012, 12:56 PM
Things getting rough on the Jersey Coast today....
http://i47.tinypic.com/ftge8l.jpg

QuikSsurfer
10-29-2012, 12:58 PM
Things getting rough on the Jersey Coast today....
http://i47.tinypic.com/ftge8l.jpg

It's starting to clear up some... The damage is still pretty bad.

http://img2-2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/04/10/PLANET-OF-APES_610.jpg

mikey23545
10-29-2012, 01:10 PM
Things getting rough on the Jersey Coast today....
http://i47.tinypic.com/ftge8l.jpg


That's no trouble, dammit!

Chris Christie is striding in to do FEMA's job!

Frazod
10-29-2012, 01:19 PM
It's amazing that I can see the clouds from this goddamn thing from the window of my building. In Chicago.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-29-2012, 01:22 PM
The hurricane's name is Sandy...my mother-in-law's name is Sandy...hmm...

Fat Elvis
10-29-2012, 01:29 PM
There's definitely a little of that, which is why I've been seeking out rational explanations of the possible effects (posted above). In short, the issue is that this isn't likely going to be a historic storm in terms of the SEVERITY of the damage, but more the SCOPE of the damage. The last estimate I saw put the number of people who could be impacted by this thing at about 60 million. That's insane.

I think they are probably lowballing the amount of damage, dollarwise-especially when you include lost productivity, when they say this is a $10B storm. Think about it for a second: If 60 million people are being impacted by this thing, $10B in damage only equates to ~$167/person. When all is said and done, if this thing plays out the way they are thinking, $10B will be a way, way low estimate.

Dylan
10-29-2012, 01:31 PM
<embed width="576" height="324" src="http://media.nbcnewyork.com/assets/pdk449/pdk/swf/flvPlayer.swf?pid=T0wcEk4yt52_&t=0--431939733" flashvars="v=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnewyork.com%2Fi%2Fembed_new%2F%3Fcid%3D147088625%26liveVidShell%3D176268301%26 path=%2Fnews%2Flocal"allowFullScreen="true" AllowScriptAccess="always" /> <p style="font-size:small">

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Hurricane-Sandy-Video-Top-of-the-Rock-Center-Storm-Track-Weather-176264471.html

Live video streaming from the top of Rockefeller Plaza, which have captured a crane that's
dangling off a 65-story building on W. 57th Street in NYC. Emergency workers are at the scene.
The call came in less than an hour ago.

Why on earth did they not remove the crane in anticipation of the storm?

Chiefs Pantalones
10-29-2012, 01:36 PM
Friend of mine told me he thought he saw Tebow walking on water out there...any truth to that, east coasters?

NJChiefsFan
10-29-2012, 01:38 PM
So far here in North NJ its just really strong winds. Our issue shouldn't be flooding so much as power lines and trees. Nearly 40% or so of the power lines around here have branches growing over or through them. That being said I have never really experienced 70-80 mph winds, let alone for 2 days, so I guess I don't know for sure.

Last year when Irene hit the town had to break one of the damns and put 2 feet of water in my Mother's deli. Took the stream running past it from its usual 4 inches to about 12 feet high, which is the lip of the ditch the stream runs through.

Its going to be rough. Losing power, for a few days most likely, is nearly inevitable I feel. Last year during Irene the part of our town is up a mountain and has only two roads was without power for 10 days.

Good luck everybody.

mikey23545
10-29-2012, 01:41 PM
So far here in North NJ its just really strong winds. Our issue shouldn't be flooding so much as power lines and trees. Nearly 40% or so of the power lines around here have branches growing over or through them. That being said I have never really experienced 70-80 mph winds, let alone for 2 days, so I guess I don't know for sure.

Last year when Irene hit the town had to break one of the damns and put 2 feet of water in my Mother's deli. Took the stream running past it from its usual 4 inches to about 12 feet high, which is the lip of the ditch the stream runs through.

Its going to be rough. Losing power, for a few days most likely, is nearly inevitable I feel. Last year during Irene the part of our town is up a mountain and has only two roads was without power for 10 days.

Good luck everybody.


Good luck to you dude.

QuikSsurfer
10-29-2012, 01:44 PM
close up of crane:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6ZcbtDCMAAoLnn.jpg

siberian khatru
10-29-2012, 01:49 PM
Why on earth did they not remove the crane in anticipation of the storm?

Because it takes a loooong time to get it down?

NJChiefsFan
10-29-2012, 01:49 PM
Good luck to you dude.

Thanks. There are certainly dangers for me here but most likely, well hopefully, the only issue will be power. There are a lot of people South of us going through a lot worse.

People were going nuts around here. Warranted but we aren't used to this type of thing. We get all four seasons but none of the crazy extreme whether outside of a Nor'easter. This is now the second hurricane in 2 years, the first one that hit at a real strength and is actually getting bigger, and we had a minor earth quake a few years ago. I thought I was just dizzy when it happened. We are lucky enough to not have to deal with this type of thing but the danger there is that we aren't well prepared for it. I guess who really is prepared for a disaster though. There is only so much you can do beyond being physically safe.

Old Dog
10-29-2012, 01:51 PM
Because it takes a loooong time to get it down?

looks like it actually came down rather quickly


OK, I guess that was "wrong" wasn't it?

QuikSsurfer
10-29-2012, 02:08 PM
live feed of some crazy fucking waves

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9639915/Hurricane-Sandy-live.html

Dylan
10-29-2012, 02:10 PM
Thanks. There are certainly dangers for me here but most likely, well hopefully, the only issue will be power. There are a lot of people South of us going through a lot worse.

People were going nuts around here. Warranted but we aren't used to this type of thing. We get all four seasons but none of the crazy extreme whether outside of a Nor'easter. This is now the second hurricane in 2 years, the first one that hit at a real strength and is actually getting bigger, and we had a minor earth quake a few years ago. I thought I was just dizzy when it happened. We are lucky enough to not have to deal with this type of thing but the danger there is that we aren't well prepared for it. I guess who really is prepared for a disaster though. There is only so much you can do beyond being physically safe.

Stay safe, NJChiefsFan. Accuweather says, conditions deteriorating very rapidly.

Dylan
10-29-2012, 02:10 PM
close up of crane:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6ZcbtDCMAAoLnn.jpg

Wow ... :eek:

ChiefsandO'sfan
10-29-2012, 02:12 PM
<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=hw9xg1" target="_blank"><img src="http://i47.tinypic.com/hw9xg1.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>

NJChiefsFan
10-29-2012, 02:12 PM
Stay safe, NJChiefsFan. Accuweather says, conditions deteriorating very rapidly.

Thanks. I would say Accuweather has it right. Good luck to everyone in the path of this thing.

Frazod
10-29-2012, 02:13 PM
So far here in North NJ its just really strong winds. Our issue shouldn't be flooding so much as power lines and trees. Nearly 40% or so of the power lines around here have branches growing over or through them. That being said I have never really experienced 70-80 mph winds, let alone for 2 days, so I guess I don't know for sure.

Last year when Irene hit the town had to break one of the damns and put 2 feet of water in my Mother's deli. Took the stream running past it from its usual 4 inches to about 12 feet high, which is the lip of the ditch the stream runs through.

Its going to be rough. Losing power, for a few days most likely, is nearly inevitable I feel. Last year during Irene the part of our town is up a mountain and has only two roads was without power for 10 days.

Good luck everybody.

Hang in there. One of my best friends lives on Staten Island, he's home riding it out. Best of luck to all of you.

Dylan
10-29-2012, 02:17 PM
live feed of some crazy fucking waves

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9639915/Hurricane-Sandy-live.html

Thanks...Great info.

Regarding the crane: 19.46 (15.46) Officials in New York have ordered the evacuation of residents on the top floors of several of the buildings near the collapsed crane site at W 57th street.

Why would they evacuate residents on top floors near the crane?

QuikSsurfer
10-29-2012, 02:19 PM
Thanks...Great info.



Why would they evacuate residents on top floors near the crane?

No idea where the wind could blow it to once it falls.

KChiefer
10-29-2012, 02:19 PM
Thanks. There are certainly dangers for me here but most likely, well hopefully, the only issue will be power.

Hope you didn't throw out all your hard copies of playboy.

Really though, good luck to you and yours.

Dylan
10-29-2012, 02:20 PM
<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=hw9xg1" target="_blank"><img src="http://i47.tinypic.com/hw9xg1.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>

Where was this photo taken? Shark looks about 6 feet long

NJChiefsFan
10-29-2012, 02:22 PM
Why would they evacuate residents on top floors near the crane?

Ruining their view.

Hope you didn't throw out all your hard copies of playboy.

Really though, good luck to you and yours.

Haha. Thank you.

Dylan
10-29-2012, 02:23 PM
No idea where the wind could blow it to once it falls.

Thanks...that makes sense.

Time to turn on the TV.




NJChiefsFan: LMAO

chefsos
10-29-2012, 02:39 PM
I think we have landfall of the eyewall in South Jersey right now, much earlier than originally projected.

QuikSsurfer
10-29-2012, 02:59 PM
Gangnam style photo bomb :)

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CsMdO7KZZF8?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

NJChiefsFan
10-29-2012, 03:00 PM
The eye is disappearing and the new hybrid storm is being born.

Douche Baggins
10-29-2012, 04:40 PM
OHMY GOOOOOD

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/404332_455528927821780_1785442848_n.jpg

scott free
10-29-2012, 04:43 PM
<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=hw9xg1" target="_blank"><img src="http://i47.tinypic.com/hw9xg1.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>

Shoppity-bop