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CoMoChief
10-26-2012, 04:04 PM
So today at the water cooler, I heard some wild rumors/theories about Chiefs ownership and it made me think.

Who actually has true ownership of the Chiefs? Does Clark have final say?

Yes, I know Clark is the CEO/Chairman of the board etc.

But is it just him solely or are there a board of directors and certain decisions go to a vote etc?

Reason I ask is because this person said he heard on AM sports talk radio (dunno which one 610/810) about how Clark wanted to fire Pioli but the "board of directors" voted no.


Is there any truth at all to this? First time I've heard anything remotely close to anything like this.

HoneyBadger
10-26-2012, 04:04 PM
You're going to confuse people.

DTLB58
10-26-2012, 04:09 PM
I kinda heard something about this on 610 the other day. They said all the other board members were all family. Children of Lamar's and his wife.

Could we be having a family feud? :shake:

KC Tattoo
10-26-2012, 04:09 PM
If Clark wants to fire Pioli he can it is his decision. He was trusted by the family as his responsibility that is what Lamar Hunt groomed him to do. I maybe wrong but that's how I thought it is.

Claynus
10-26-2012, 04:12 PM
The rest of the Hunt family is very much involved.

810 or 610, can't remember who, said the Hunts felt like they had been bamboozled by Scott Pioli.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-26-2012, 04:14 PM
The rest of the Hunt family is very much involved.

810 or 610, can't remember who, said the Hunts felt like they had been bamboozled by Scott Pioli.

I would hope fucking so.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-26-2012, 04:15 PM
If Clark wants to fire Pioli he can it is his decision. He was trusted by the family as his responsibility that is what Lamar Hunt groomed him to do. I maybe wrong but that's how I thought it is.

Ultimately, Clark should be the one making the call.

Pestilence
10-26-2012, 04:15 PM
You sure it's not the other way around?

The BOD wants Pioli gone and Clark is fighting them?

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-26-2012, 04:17 PM
You sure it's not the other way around?

The BOD wants Pioli gone and Clark is fighting them?

"CLAAAAAAAAAAARK; DOOOO SOMETHING"!!!!!

"Hush woman".

:facepalm:

FAX
10-26-2012, 04:18 PM
ROFL

Who's on first?

FAX

KCUnited
10-26-2012, 04:19 PM
ROFL

Who's on first?

FAX

OMAHA! OMAHA!

Claynus
10-26-2012, 04:20 PM
You sure it's not the other way around?

The BOD wants Pioli gone and Clark is fighting them?

I don't think anyone is fighting anyone.

They're all pissed at Pioli and giving him one last chance to turn it around.

1-10 or 2-9, a move will be made.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-26-2012, 04:22 PM
I don't think anyone is fighting anyone.

They're all pissed at Pioli and giving him one last chance to turn it around.

1-10 or 2-9, a move will be made.

Good...gooooooooood...

http://media.ignimgs.com/media/ign/imgs/star-wars-characters/13_emperor_starwars.jpg

Tribal Warfare
10-26-2012, 04:24 PM
I don't think anyone is fighting anyone.

They're all pissed at Pioli and giving him one last chance to turn it around.

1-10 or 2-9, a move will be made.

That's my marking point, when KC is officially out the playoff race.

KC Tattoo
10-26-2012, 04:27 PM
I don't think anyone is fighting anyone.

They're all pissed at Pioli and giving him one last chance to turn it around.

1-10 or 2-9, a move will be made.

I think the hammer is going come down when uppon we are mathemattically out of contintion for the playoffs and or more lop sided losses like we have seen could come down sooner. The Hunt family invested a lot of there own money into the upgrade of Arrowhead they want the stadium rocking with fans on game day. I also think they feel dooped and fed a bunch of 'Patriot way" nonsence.

Chief_For_Life58
10-26-2012, 04:27 PM
clark is ceo he has final say of everything

Chiefs316
10-26-2012, 04:31 PM
clark is ceo he has final say of everything

Hes got business cards that read "I am CEO bitch" so I think he can make the call.

JASONSAUTO
10-26-2012, 04:41 PM
I don't think anyone is fighting anyone.

They're all pissed at Pioli and giving him one last chance to turn it around.

1-10 or 2-9, a move will be made.
I disagree.

They know that there is no REAL "turning it around" this year.

He will get one more chance IMO to draft a qb like Clark wants.

Pioli will be here at least another year
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FAX
10-26-2012, 04:43 PM
I disagree.

They know that there is no REAL "turning it around" this year.

He will get one more chance IMO to draft a qb like Clark wants.

Pioli will be here at least another year
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Never underestimate the power of the banner, Mr. JASONSAUTO. Hope is a good thing ... perhaps the best of things.

FAX

KChiefer
10-26-2012, 05:13 PM
Eether, eyether, neether, nyther,
Let's call the whole thing off!

bevischief
10-26-2012, 05:25 PM
Never underestimate the power of the banner, Mr. JASONSAUTO. Hope is a good thing ... perhaps the best of things.

FAX

But we have 2.

JASONSAUTO
10-26-2012, 05:25 PM
Never underestimate the power of the banner, Mr. JASONSAUTO. Hope is a good thing ... perhaps the best of things.

FAX
I have hope.

a GOOD young qb will go a long ways towards fixing the issues with this team.
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New World Order
10-26-2012, 05:29 PM
1-10 would be a pretty big blessing

theelusiveeightrop
10-26-2012, 05:32 PM
KC Mafia still runs the Chiefs.

TribalElder
10-26-2012, 05:35 PM
I don't think they want to pay Pioli to walk. He still is due millions since he didn't sign the extension with the reworded buyout option. Romeo is due millions too. Those payouts + cost to hire new GM and coach + cheapskate anyways = moar pioli

JASONSAUTO
10-26-2012, 05:38 PM
Saying it has to do with money is ignorant.

They fired herm and Carl. Then paid Pioli a shit ton of money on top of that then hired Haley and in year two paid quite a bit to the weis crennel duo...
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Darckhorse0
10-26-2012, 05:43 PM
im a die hard chief fan from the md, dc, va area and You know its sad how an organization that was soooooooo rich with great players hit such a snag and cant get out. Clark needs to get a guy like MARTY SCHOTTENHIEMER to be GM. marty knows kansas city well, knows players and knows the game. Look at what he did with the skins and chargers and even building yhe browns after sam rutigliano left as head coach. Maybe he'll hire his son brian as head coach because brian WILL make an offense operate MUCH better than what we have now!

JASONSAUTO
10-26-2012, 05:57 PM
What the fuck? Marty for GM?

Go fuck yourself.
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JASONSAUTO
10-26-2012, 05:59 PM
Lots of stupid mother fuckers around here lately
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Pasta Giant Meatball
10-26-2012, 06:03 PM
You sure it's not the other way around?

The BOD wants Pioli gone and Clark is fighting them?

I can see that.

JASONSAUTO
10-26-2012, 06:05 PM
I can see that.

Clark said he wanted to draft and develop a qb. That hasn't happened. Surely he can't be totally happy.
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Phobia
10-26-2012, 06:08 PM
Good grief - that's EXACTLY why you don't hire Marty as GM, because the impending nepotism will ruin the franchise... as if it were even possible to get any lower than rock bottom.

bevischief
10-26-2012, 06:10 PM
Good grief - that's EXACTLY why you don't hire Marty as GM, because the impending nepotism will ruin the franchise... as if it were even possible to get any lower than rock bottom.

Yep.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-26-2012, 06:11 PM
Clark said he wanted to draft and develop a qb. That hasn't happened. Surely he can't be totally happy.
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He talked about wanting stability in the organization. He wants Pioli to be the guy here for a decade plus. He may be unhappy, but Pioli gets next year for sure IMO.

This team will get a QB high in the draft next year, I believe it 100 percent.

JASONSAUTO
10-26-2012, 06:13 PM
Pioli gets next year for sure IMO.

This team will get a QB high in the draft next year, I believe it 100 percent. . I agree
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ChiefsandO'sfan
10-26-2012, 06:16 PM
He talked about wanting stability in the organization. He wants Pioli to be the guy here for a decade plus. He may be unhappy, but Pioli gets next year for sure IMO.

This team will get a QB high in the draft next year, I believe it 100 percent.

What good does this do with Crennel as HC and Daboll as OC ?

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-26-2012, 06:17 PM
What good does this do with Crennel as HC and Daboll as OC ?

A QB??? EVERYTHING. It's the one thing you have to have nowadays. You can get by with lesser talent and having a boob at HC.

bevischief
10-26-2012, 06:17 PM
What good does this do with Crennel as HC and Daboll as OC ?

Fail on so many levels...

JASONSAUTO
10-26-2012, 06:18 PM
What good does this do with Crennel as HC and Daboll as OC ?

Crennel will retire. Daboll will be unemployed.

Probably fucking McDaniels as hc.
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ChiefsandO'sfan
10-26-2012, 06:19 PM
Fail on so many levels...

So you want Crennel and Daboll to Develop a young QB?

JASONSAUTO
10-26-2012, 06:20 PM
And it will either be an epic win. Or a total burning down of arrowhead and all the fans saying fuck it.


No middle ground
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Pasta Giant Meatball
10-26-2012, 06:23 PM
And it will either be an epic win. Or a total burning down of arrowhead and all the fans saying fuck it.


No middle ground
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It would instantly energize the fanbase. It's something many of us have waited YEARS for.

JASONSAUTO
10-26-2012, 06:28 PM
It would instantly energize the fanbase. It's something many of us have waited YEARS for.

That post was about the hiring of McDaniels.

But I agree about that about a qb.
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Pasta Giant Meatball
10-26-2012, 06:30 PM
That post was about the hiring of McDaniels.

But I agree about that about a qb.
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Got ya :thumb: Yeah, that move would be vilified at first. The guy was a boob in Denver.

JASONSAUTO
10-26-2012, 06:31 PM
Got ya :thumb: Yeah, that move would be vilified at first. The guy was a boob in Denver.

I am kinda warning up to the idea...

I know I'm and idiot
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Pasta Giant Meatball
10-26-2012, 06:33 PM
I am kinda warning up to the idea...

I know I'm and idiot
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I can see why you think that way. All depends how much he learns from his mistakes.

JASONSAUTO
10-26-2012, 06:35 PM
I can see why you think that way. All depends how much he learns from his mistakes.

Exactly. At least he went out and stayed aggressive no matter what.
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FAX
10-26-2012, 06:35 PM
Good grief - that's EXACTLY why you don't hire Marty as GM, because the impending nepotism will ruin the franchise... as if it were even possible to get any lower than rock bottom.

ROFL

You never know ... I thought we were at rock bottom 3 years ago.

FAX

Phobia
10-26-2012, 06:40 PM
ROFL

You never know ... I thought we were at rock bottom 3 years ago.

FAX

I thought Herm was the lowest we could go and now I'd gladly have him over what we got.

bevischief
10-26-2012, 06:56 PM
So where do you work?

FAX
10-26-2012, 07:03 PM
I thought Herm was the lowest we could go and now I'd gladly have him over what we got.

ROFL

I know. It's a lesson on how to make worse than bad even worse.

When you back off for a moment and look it objectively, it's staggering the way Pioli has screwed this thing up.

I mean, one would honestly think that, in order to destroy a franchise this spectacularly, you actually have to make a conscious, dedicated effort and work very hard at it.

Failures like this just don't happen by themselves.

FAX

DaWolf
10-26-2012, 07:50 PM
Good grief - that's EXACTLY why you don't hire Marty as GM, because the impending nepotism will ruin the franchise... as if it were even possible to get any lower than rock bottom.

Can you imagine? Brian Schottenheimer as HC and Kurt Schottenheimer back as DC? :shake:

Dayze
10-26-2012, 09:13 PM
Paul hacket

Simply Red
10-26-2012, 09:29 PM
I don't even think Pioli could move up to Manager at the local 7-11 or QT.

cabletech94
10-26-2012, 09:37 PM
So today at the water cooler, I heard some wild rumors/theories about Chiefs ownership and it made me think.

Who actually has true ownership of the Chiefs? Does Clark have final say?

Yes, I know Clark is the CEO/Chairman of the board etc.

But is it just him solely or are there a board of directors and certain decisions go to a vote etc?

Reason I ask is because this person said he heard on AM sports talk radio (dunno which one 610/810) about how Clark wanted to fire Pioli but the "board of directors" voted no.


Is there any truth at all to this? First time I've heard anything remotely close to anything like this.


some of this has already been said here, don't care.
it was on fescoe (610) this morning. so take it for what it's worth. basically said that there were 5 on the bod. reported that clark wants pioli gone. but the majority wants to keep him on board due to money owed blah, blah, blah.

there was no one actually quoted, which makes me tend to believe that it was speculation on fescoes "source".

i'm sure its on a podcast or something on their site. i'm just passing along what i heard from that station today.

Ace Gunner
10-26-2012, 09:52 PM
A QB??? EVERYTHING. It's the one thing you have to have nowadays. You can get by with lesser talent and having a boob at HC.

Agreed. See Barry Switzer, superbowl champion HC.

This team ain't got the talent many fans say it does. DJ is the most over rated player on the team, perhaps in the NFL and Berry this season is playing like a 4th rndr. Dorsey blows and the team has fewer sacks than they've had since the worst years.

They are just coming back to earth after Haley shocked them for wins. They actually believed his bullshit for about a season, but when they began getting thumped again under Haley, and his authority all but stripped, this team began it's decent and return to what they are -- which is not very good. Trash time heroes.

If it weren't for Jamaal this team is a shoe in for first up come april.

Ace Gunner
10-26-2012, 09:59 PM
As for the notion the Hunt fam is organized as a board -- well duh, the riches of Lamar belong to them. Clark spoke in place of Pioli during Haley's firing and he is protecting him, or has been, at least.

Really, it's up to the fans. The Hunt's will go where the money trail leads them.

Psyko Tek
10-26-2012, 11:33 PM
That's my marking point, when KC is officially out the playoff race.

wasn't that last week?
if not will be early november

nstygma
10-27-2012, 12:16 AM
these are the only other board members:
Lee Derrough
Jim Holland

no telling about stock ownership though

RunKC
10-27-2012, 12:52 AM
A QB fixes a lot of problems, but not even a first round QB can fix this coaching staff. Romeo has no clue what he's done. Not a clue at all.

And McDaniels won't come here. It was said that Pioli wanted McDaniels last spring but Clark said no because they would have no support. No way Josh comes here now that things are as bad as ever money wise for Clark.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-27-2012, 07:15 AM
Agreed. See Fece Switzer, superbowl champion HC.

This team ain't got the talent many fans say it does. DJ is the most over rated player on the team, perhaps in the NFL and Berry this season is playing like a 4th rndr. Dorsey blows and the team has fewer sacks than they've had since the worst years.

They are just coming back to earth after Haley shocked them for wins. They actually believed his bullshit for about a season, but when they began getting thumped again under Haley, and his authority all but stripped, this team began it's decent and return to what they are -- which is not very good. Trash time heroes.

If it weren't for Jamaal this team is a shoe in for first up come april.

Dumb

boogblaster
10-27-2012, 09:23 AM
the breeze is blowin' ..

CoMoChief
10-27-2012, 09:24 AM
There's a gleam!

bevischief
10-27-2012, 10:05 AM
Sack up Clark and do it!

tredadda
10-27-2012, 10:39 AM
He talked about wanting stability in the organization. He wants Pioli to be the guy here for a decade plus. He may be unhappy, but Pioli gets next year for sure IMO.

This team will get a QB high in the draft next year, I believe it 100 percent.

Based on Pioli's draft record in the first round this pick scares me. I believe we will draft a 1st round QB, but I have no faith that he will pick the right one. Somehow he will get this year's "Blackledge".

lurker king
10-27-2012, 10:51 AM
Now this was a few years ago, but I know he was a Therapist for teens here in the Metro. So if he has any say at least he lives here in the area.

teedubya
10-27-2012, 11:55 AM
If Clark wants to fire Pioli he can it is his decision. He was trusted by the family as his responsibility that is what Lamar Hunt groomed him to do. I maybe wrong but that's how I thought it is.

Didn't Lamar ACTUALLY groom Lamar Hunt Jr., and the job was going to be his, until he felt up his retarded sister-in-law or something and now he is never heard from?

teedubya
10-27-2012, 11:59 AM
Here is presumably why Lamar Hunt Jr. isn't around much these days...

http://amarillo.com/stories/120999/tex_LD0655.001.shtml

Hunt accused of sexual assault on mentally disabled sister-in-law
Posted: Thursday, December 09, 1999

The Associated Press
DALLAS (AP) - Lamar Hunt Jr., son of sports magnate Lamar Hunt and a member of one of Texas' most prominent and wealthiest families, was accused in a civil lawsuit of making unwanted advances on his mentally disabled sister-in-law and having sex with her.

Hunt's attorney, Donald Flanary, told The Dallas Morning News his client had written a document titled "Confessions of a Sex Addict," which is cited in a civil lawsuit filed Monday at the Dallas courthouse.

Flanary did not return telephone calls Wednesday from The Associated Press.

In the document, the writer states, "I made unwanted advances on her on consecutive nights."

The writer described the sex acts and added, "If this is disturbing, I am sorry, but I think that for whatever reason God wants me to expel this demon."

Plaintiff's attorneys said Hunt, 43, gave the document to his wife, Jocelyn, two years ago. Jocelyn Hunt since filed for a divorce, which is pending with court papers sealed.

The civil lawsuit against Lamar Hunt Jr. was filed by attorneys for Jocelyn Hunt's sister, Judy Fitzpatrick.

"She's seeking monetary damages," said Jack Baldwin, a Texas attorney representing Fitzpatrick. He said they have not discussed a settlement with Hunt's attorneys, who have 20 days to respond to the lawsuit.

Although no criminal action has been filed against Hunt, Baldwin said that still is an option.

The district attorney's office is unlikely to pursue the matter unless police investigate and find evidence of a crime, said assistant district attorney Mike Carnes.

The statute of limitations for a sexual assault case would be five years, but that time frame could vary with the specific charges, he said.

Attorneys said Fitzpatrick lives in Pennsylvania with another sister who helps care for her and consented to the release of her name. The Associated Press normally does not identify sexual-assault complainants unless they or their guardians consent.

Court papers in the lawsuit Baldwin filed Monday in Dallas on Fitzpatrick's behalf claim the woman "has been diagnosed with moderate to severe learning disabilities, cognitive deficits and social deficiencies. . . . She has lived with her parents or a sibling for 40 of the 41 years of her life."

The alleged assaults occurred two years ago, the lawsuit said, when Fitzpatrick was visiting the Hunts at their suburban Dallas home.

Hunt is the grandson of pioneer Texas oil wildcatter H.L. Hunt. He has an office with his father in downtown Dallas. Forty years ago, the elder Hunt launched the American Football League, which included his Dallas Texans franchise. The team later became the Kansas City Chiefs, whose ownership is held through trusts by Lamar Hunt Jr. and his three siblings.

The younger Hunt also is president and past headmaster of St. Therese Academy, a small prep school in Irving that describes itself as offering "religious education based on the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church" - but operates without diocesan oversight.

"We've disavowed any connection with them," said Bronson Harvard, a spokesman for the Catholic Diocese of Dallas. "They don't readily make clear in their literature their relationship to the ch

cabletech94
10-27-2012, 12:14 PM
Here is presumably why Lamar Hunt Jr. isn't around much these days...

http://amarillo.com/stories/120999/tex_LD0655.001.shtml

Hunt accused of sexual assault on mentally disabled sister-in-law
Posted: Thursday, December 09, 1999

The Associated Press
DALLAS (AP) - Lamar Hunt Jr., son of sports magnate Lamar Hunt and a member of one of Texas' most prominent and wealthiest families, was accused in a civil lawsuit of making unwanted advances on his mentally disabled sister-in-law and having sex with her.

Hunt's attorney, Donald Flanary, told The Dallas Morning News his client had written a document titled "Confessions of a Sex Addict," which is cited in a civil lawsuit filed Monday at the Dallas courthouse.

Flanary did not return telephone calls Wednesday from The Associated Press.

In the document, the writer states, "I made unwanted advances on her on consecutive nights."

The writer described the sex acts and added, "If this is disturbing, I am sorry, but I think that for whatever reason God wants me to expel this demon."

Plaintiff's attorneys said Hunt, 43, gave the document to his wife, Jocelyn, two years ago. Jocelyn Hunt since filed for a divorce, which is pending with court papers sealed.

The civil lawsuit against Lamar Hunt Jr. was filed by attorneys for Jocelyn Hunt's sister, Judy Fitzpatrick.

"She's seeking monetary damages," said Jack Baldwin, a Texas attorney representing Fitzpatrick. He said they have not discussed a settlement with Hunt's attorneys, who have 20 days to respond to the lawsuit.

Although no criminal action has been filed against Hunt, Baldwin said that still is an option.

The district attorney's office is unlikely to pursue the matter unless police investigate and find evidence of a crime, said assistant district attorney Mike Carnes.

The statute of limitations for a sexual assault case would be five years, but that time frame could vary with the specific charges, he said.

Attorneys said Fitzpatrick lives in Pennsylvania with another sister who helps care for her and consented to the release of her name. The Associated Press normally does not identify sexual-assault complainants unless they or their guardians consent.

Court papers in the lawsuit Baldwin filed Monday in Dallas on Fitzpatrick's behalf claim the woman "has been diagnosed with moderate to severe learning disabilities, cognitive deficits and social deficiencies. . . . She has lived with her parents or a sibling for 40 of the 41 years of her life."

The alleged assaults occurred two years ago, the lawsuit said, when Fitzpatrick was visiting the Hunts at their suburban Dallas home.

Hunt is the grandson of pioneer Texas oil wildcatter H.L. Hunt. He has an office with his father in downtown Dallas. Forty years ago, the elder Hunt launched the American Football League, which included his Dallas Texans franchise. The team later became the Kansas City Chiefs, whose ownership is held through trusts by Lamar Hunt Jr. and his three siblings.

The younger Hunt also is president and past headmaster of St. Therese Academy, a small prep school in Irving that describes itself as offering "religious education based on the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church" - but operates without diocesan oversight.

"We've disavowed any connection with them," said Bronson Harvard, a spokesman for the Catholic Diocese of Dallas. "They don't readily make clear in their literature their relationship to the ch


uh-oh!!! i feel poopy!!!

oldman
10-27-2012, 01:36 PM
I don't think it's all about the money owed to Pioli. I believe it's all about perception right now. Clark and/or the board has to make it look like the dismissal is their idea, not the fans. I'm pretty sure they know the fans are pissed and there'll be a lot less $8.50 beer and $6 hotdogs consumed at Arrowhead if they don't do something. But in the minds of the typical NFL owner, they run the show. Clark has always said he wanted this franchise to be like the Steelers, can you imagine the Rooney's caviing to a banner? No way. But he'll can Pioli before the end of the season after some public outbursts.

whoman69
10-27-2012, 04:40 PM
There's a gleam!

Never did understand what the hell that meant