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demonhero
10-27-2012, 10:32 AM
http://patdollard.com/2012/10/stop-using-your-wheelchair-as-a-crutch-marine-who-lost-both-legs-in-afghanistan-forced-out-of-restaurant-by-north-carolina-panther-fans/

Marine Garrett Carnes, of Mooresville, North Carolina attended Sunday’s Carolina Panthers’ game against the Cowboys with his wife Courtney, their parents, and friends Brett and Nicole Coburn. After the game, in which Dallas beat the Panthers, the Marine and his family stopped by Moosehead Grill on Montford Drive. This is where the incident took place.

According to the Charlotte Observer this is what happened:



During a verbal altercation that some witnesses said almost came to blows, one patron allegedly told Carnes he was using his wheelchair “as an excuse.”

In an interview with The Observer, however, the fan said Carnes and members of his party were equally abusive. And he denied making a remark about the Marine’s wheelchair.

The incident happened after Carnes, his wife Courtney, their parents, and friends Brett and Nicole Coburn stopped at the restaurant for dinner after attending the Carolina Panthers’ game against Dallas. Several members of the party, including Garrett Carnes, were wearing Dallas Cowboys jerseys.

“Courtney was the first one out of the vehicle, and while she was getting Garrett’s wheelchair, one guy immediately started yelling at her,” said Brett Coburn, who described the man’s comments as “taunts.”

Coburn said that when the group reached the front door, the fan was waiting for them.

“He was standing at the door, and he started harassing us because of the Cowboys jerseys,” Coburn said.

He said the fan told Garrett Carnes, “Don’t use your wheelchair as a crutch.”

The fan, who did not want to give his name, gave a different account.

“Moosehead is a Panthers’ bar,” he said. “When they came, wearing the Cowboys’ jerseys, I started up on them. I asked them if they were Cowboys fans who lived in North Carolina.”

“I’m not going to fight someone in a wheelchair,” the fan said. “I said to him, ‘I’m not fighting you. Get four of your boys, and I’ll fight them.’ “

According to multiple accounts of the incident, Carnes told the patron – and others who were ridiculing the group for being Cowboys’ fans – that he was a veteran and had lost his legs in Afghanistan.

Members of the Carnes-Coburn party tried to “defend ourselves verbally,” Brett Coburn said.

“We were going back and forth,” the fan said. “Yes, it got out of control.”

The fan said one woman in the Carnes-Coburn party swore at him.

He said the fan walked toward Carnes in a threatening way, and some other patrons stepped in to break it up.

Neilsen said his employees are trained to separate possible combatants, in an effort to defuse such situations. On Sunday, staff members asked Garrett Carnes and his party to leave, while they took the fan to another area of the restaurant.

“It spiraled out of control,” Coburn says.

Courtney Carnes called police, but no charges were filed.



Carnes mother has recently addressed a post to the patrons at the restaurant on facebook: “Why didn’t any of you stand up for my son and daughter? And to think my son almost died for every single person in that bar, by defending all your freedom.”

The owner of the restaurant, Chris Neilsen, arrived soon after the altercation took place. Neilsen said he arrived at the restaurant after the group had left and was in the parking lot, talking to police.“I didn’t want them to leave,” he said of the Carnes-Coburn party, “but I understand why they left. I’m miserable. My heart hurts for them.”

He said the trouble was caused by people who “are not regulars” at the restaurant and added that the fan was not welcome to return.

Hays he is “heartbroken” over the incident in which bantering between football fans got out of control, resulting in a U.S. Marine who lost both legs in Afghanistan being forced to leave the eatery with his wife, parents and friends.

He has been in contact with family members of Marine Garrett Carnes, of Mooresville, following the incident that Neilsen says “was awful.”

“I want to somehow make it right by them,” Neilsen says.

According to several emails we received, the fan who started the confrontation with the Marine, is known by them as “Tank”. But they say he is a regular and “Tank” is his nickname while his real name is Josh Watts.



Here is a story done on the Marine when he was welcomed home: Mooresville Crowd Welcomes Home Wounded Marine

A lot of Marines have also been hammering away at them on Yelp, but it seems the Fan is at fault here for taunting the Marine. The owner was not aware until after the incident happened. Moosehead Grill

The fan told the Observer, “He (Carnes) is a veteran, and I appreciate what he did for this country. But I don’t appreciate how abusive they were.”

In my opinion it was the Fan that caused this, not the restaurant. Although they could have removed the other party instead of the wounded Marine. But here are some pics of the fan that was taunting the Marine, sent to us by a fan who is familiar with the establishment and its patrons.

The Mule↓
http://guardianofvalor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/josh3.png

The Marine↓
http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/article-2223059-15AE62F5000005DC-218_306x505.jpg

Pestilence
10-27-2012, 10:32 AM
What kind of retard formatting is that?

Pestilence
10-27-2012, 10:33 AM
A U.S. Marine who lost both his legs in Afghanistan was forced to leave a Charlotte restaurant with his family after local football fans hurled vile abuse at them for wearing Dallas Cowboys jerseys.

Marine Garrett Carnes, of Mooresville, North Carolina attended Sunday’s Carolina Panthers’ game against the Cowboys with his wife Courtney, their parents, and friends Brett and Nicole Coburn.

After the game, which the Cowboys won 19-14, the group stopped at the Moosehead Grill for dinner. Several members of the party, including Garrett Carnes, were proudly wearing their Dallas Cowboys jerseys.

A group of disgruntled Panthers fans spotted their jerseys and started to taunt Carnes and his group even before they entered the restaurant.

‘Courtney was the first one out of the vehicle, and while she was getting Garrett’s wheelchair, one guy immediately started yelling at her,’ Brett Coburn told The Charlotte Observer.

Once in the restaurant, the Panthers fans continued to mock Carnes and his group. One person told Garrett Carnes: ‘Don’t use your wheelchair as a crutch.’

Carnes, who is still undergoing treatment for his wounds at a Washington-area hospital, told them he was a veteran who had lost his legs in Afghanistan.

The situation quickly deteriorated and according to witnesses the two parties almost came to blows after one of the Panthers fans approached Carnes in a threatening manner.

Other patrons stepped in to defuse the situation, but staff asked Garrett Carnes and his party to leave. The police were called by Courtney Carnes, although no charges were filed.

Carnes’ mother, Rhonda, has since addressed a note to restaurant patrons on Facebook. She wrote: ‘Why didn’t any of you stand up for my son and daughter? And to think my son almost died for every single person in that bar, by defending all your freedom.’

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A Salt Weapon
10-27-2012, 10:36 AM
I'd have stood up for him, Semper Fi brother!
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Inmem58
10-27-2012, 10:38 AM
This deserves a standing ovation

Canofbier
10-27-2012, 10:38 AM
I'm surprised that it wasn't Eric Winston reporting this.

Ultra Peanut
10-27-2012, 10:38 AM
If anyone deserved to experience something horrible, it's a Cowboys fan.

KCUnited
10-27-2012, 10:41 AM
Stumped as to why people behave like this.

demonhero
10-27-2012, 10:42 AM
I'm surprised that it wasn't Eric Winston reporting this.

$5 and I could find him and wake him up from his slumber.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/moosehead-grill-charlotte

http://charlotte.citysearch.com/profile/6279389/charlotte_nc/moosehead_grill.html

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g49022-d398632-Reviews-Moosehead_Grill-Charlotte_North_Carolina.html

http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/38/421228/restaurant/Myers-Park-Cotswold/Moosehead-Grill-Charlotte

http://www.menuism.com/restaurants/moosehead-grill-charlotte-212175

https://foursquare.com/v/moosehead-grill/4b29b4e7f964a520bda224e3

Pestilence
10-27-2012, 10:42 AM
Give that guy a standing ovation.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-27-2012, 10:42 AM
I'm surprised that it wasn't Eric Winston reporting this.

LMAO

Dallas Chief
10-27-2012, 10:43 AM
more Josh Watts fun here...

http://cedarposts.blogspot.com/2012/10/josh-tank-watts-marine-corps-have-your.html

Ultra Peanut
10-27-2012, 10:44 AM
THAT DOESN'T SOUND FUN AT ALL

demonhero
10-27-2012, 10:49 AM
Josh Watts 634 Chipley Ave, Unit 5, Charlotte NC, 28205-7031
704-777-8010
704-875-3625

Al Bundy
10-27-2012, 10:51 AM
Panthers fans are complete morons.. but Cowpies fans ALWAYS deserve it. THIS is your typical Cowpie fan.
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CoMoChief
10-27-2012, 10:53 AM
While the Panthers fans are assholes....

This whole "defending our freedom" stuff has to stop.

The troops over seas now aren't protecting our freedoms..we're not being threatened by some other nation or power.

The people who are threatening our freedoms are the big banks and people who control our monetary system....that's the root of it all.

But go ahead and vote for Obama or Romney...because they'll change shit.

Ultra Peanut
10-27-2012, 10:54 AM
Cowboys fans aren't just bandwagoners, they're stuck in the 90s.

Al Bundy
10-27-2012, 10:55 AM
Cowboys fans aren't just bandwagoners, they're stuck in the 90s.

I am sure he was wearing an Apex One Aikman jersey.

loochy
10-27-2012, 11:05 AM
OK it sounds like every one of them were being dicks. One of the dicks just happened to be an amputee marine. :shrug:

Bump
10-27-2012, 11:09 AM
Stumped as to why people behave like this.

alcohol

Bump
10-27-2012, 11:10 AM
While the Panthers fans are assholes....

This whole "defending our freedom" stuff has to stop.

The troops over seas now aren't protecting our freedoms..we're not being threatened by some other nation or power.

The people who are threatening our freedoms are the big banks and people who control our monetary system....that's the root of it all.

But go ahead and vote for Obama or Romney...because they'll change shit.

well said actually

Big Chief Homer
10-27-2012, 11:20 AM
He reminds me of this guy

crazycoffey
10-27-2012, 11:21 AM
While the Panthers fans are assholes....

This whole "defending our freedom" stuff has to stop.

The troops over seas now aren't protecting our freedoms..we're not being threatened by some other nation or power.

well said actually

uhm, you know an american embassy was attacked just last month, right?

Bump
10-27-2012, 11:21 AM
I bet the marine could still kick his ass without a sweat

Baconeater
10-27-2012, 11:23 AM
Pretty simple solution to this...don't be a Cowboys fan.

Deberg_1990
10-27-2012, 11:24 AM
OK it sounds like every one of them were being dicks. One of the dicks just happened to be an amputee marine. :shrug:

This, while I appreciate the guys sacrifices and service, it doesn't give him the right to be a drunken a hole to someone.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-27-2012, 11:25 AM
Pretty simple solution to this...don't be a Cowboys fan.

Nice...Why is Cowboy fan hated? Other than the America's team crap I don't get it.

Al Bundy
10-27-2012, 11:27 AM
Nice...Why is Cowboy fan hated? Other than the America's team crap I don't get it.

Have you ever been around them?

Simplicity
10-27-2012, 11:31 AM
Have you ever been around them?

Bunch of "Badasses"

A Salt Weapon
10-27-2012, 11:32 AM
While the Panthers fans are assholes....
This whole "defending our freedom" stuff has to stop.
The troops over seas now aren't protecting our freedoms..we're not being threatened by some other nation or power.
The people who are threatening our freedoms are the big banks and people who control our monetary system....that's the root of it all.
But go ahead and vote for Obama or Romney...because they'll change shit.

Good post, but remember the individuals volunteering to serve don't make the decisions on where they are sent. To them, they are still willing to sacrifice their lives to defend this nation.
While I agree with your assessment, that blame needs to be directed to where it belongs, not to the individual soldier that is only going where he is sent to.
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demonhero
10-27-2012, 11:33 AM
While the Panthers fans are assholes....

This whole "defending our freedom" stuff has to stop.

The troops over seas now aren't protecting our freedoms..we're not being threatened by some other nation or power.

The people who are threatening our freedoms are the big banks and people who control our monetary system....that's the root of it all.

But go ahead and vote for Obama or Romney...because they'll change shit.

You are entitled to say what you want. Didn't mention if you were a Veteran, so I'm not seeing how you know we aren't being threatened over in jihad land wither it be cyber or military. :hmmm: :p

Start Croyle
10-27-2012, 11:33 AM
You know it's serious busienss if your mom writes a complaint on their Facebook page.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-27-2012, 11:34 AM
Have you ever been around them?

Yessir I have a couple of friends who are Cowboy fans and they are very nice but passionate fans. I admit I use to hate them but anymore it doesn't really matter.

Al Bundy
10-27-2012, 11:37 AM
Yessir I have a couple of friends who are Cowboy fans and they are very nice but passionate fans. I admit I use to hate them but anymore it doesn't really matter.

I have been around them at games they weren't even playing in.... and yeah they are horrible.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-27-2012, 11:37 AM
I have been around them at games they weren't even playing in.... and yeah they are horrible.

Must be an NFC thing? My Giant friends are a lot worse than my cowboy friends.

Deberg_1990
10-27-2012, 11:39 AM
Yessir I have a couple of friends who are Cowboy fans and they are very nice but passionate fans. I admit I use to hate them but anymore it doesn't really matter.

Every team in the league has passionate fans. Cowboys and their fans bring out hatred because they tend to have an certain arrogance and entitlement mentality. But heck, at least they have skins on the wall to back it up, although nothing recent.

LVNHACK
10-27-2012, 11:39 AM
If anyone deserved to experience something horrible, it's a Cowboys fan.

Yeah, getting your legs blown off by an ied isn't something horrible.....:rolleyes:

Ultra Peanut
10-27-2012, 11:41 AM
Like I said,

crazycoffey
10-27-2012, 11:42 AM
$5 and I could find him and wake him up from his slumber.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/moosehead-grill-charlotte

http://charlotte.citysearch.com/profile/6279389/charlotte_nc/moosehead_grill.html

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g49022-d398632-Reviews-Moosehead_Grill-Charlotte_North_Carolina.html

http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/38/421228/restaurant/Myers-Park-Cotswold/Moosehead-Grill-Charlotte

http://www.menuism.com/restaurants/moosehead-grill-charlotte-212175

https://foursquare.com/v/moosehead-grill/4b29b4e7f964a520bda224e3

Some of those reviews are brutal, but most had me laughing

InChiefsHell
10-27-2012, 11:44 AM
WTF? This never needed to even happen! It sounds to me like the fuckin' Panther fan started it. Get over it, it's just a game. If the Cowboy fans came in and started shit, then they suck too, but it doesn't sound that way according to the story.

And the dude is in a wheelchair. Regardless if he's a Marine, why start shit up with anybody, let alone a dude in a wheelchair?

Lastly, my son is almost done with Marine boot camp. So, I'm suddenly even more sensitive to this shit than I used to be. All our servicemen and women need to be respected for that sacrifice alone. Again, if the dude was really being a dick, maybe he asked for it. But regardless, just leave the guy alone.

Assholes.

Marcellus
10-27-2012, 11:58 AM
While the Panthers fans are assholes....

This whole "defending our freedom" stuff has to stop.

The troops over seas now aren't protecting our freedoms..we're not being threatened by some other nation or power.

The people who are threatening our freedoms are the big banks and people who control our monetary system....that's the root of it all.

But go ahead and vote for Obama or Romney...because they'll change shit.

You are a complete fucking idiot and you make sure to post stupid shit on a regular basis to make sure nobody forgets how fucking stupid you really are.

ThaVirus
10-27-2012, 12:14 PM
Well, he's partly right.

We're doing far more threatening, encroaching, invading, and fighting than any other foreign power.

crazycoffey
10-27-2012, 12:23 PM
:facepalm:

Start Croyle
10-27-2012, 12:26 PM
It's amazing how people jump to judgement and conclusions so quickly! If you Google around, there's no shortage of people saying that 'The Fan' should be harassed, beat up, leave the state, whatever. They say the bar should be closed or boycotted.

Somebody posted a link to reviews of the bar, which is full of posts by people who have never been there reacting to an internet chain letter. It's funny because nobody posting this stuff was actually there, or knows what really happened or why.

Marcellus
10-27-2012, 12:30 PM
Well, he's partly right.

We're doing far more threatening, encroaching, invading, and fighting than any other foreign power.

I am not saying everything the US does or has done is correct, but anybody who thinks all we need to do is leave everyone alone and they will leave us alone is a ****ing idiot.

I am completely amazed how quickly people start to ignore history and its repeatability.

War is part of human existence, always has been, always will be. Either you are proactive in protecting yourself or you become a victim. Its simply a fact that cannot be disputed.

I bought an alarm for my home after I got robbed, it was pretty ****ing stupid to wait until after but I learned from it.

KChiefer
10-27-2012, 12:31 PM
http://guardianofvalor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/josh3.png

Darth Vodka reporting for doodie

Ultra Peanut
10-27-2012, 01:05 PM
War is part of human existence, always has been, always will be. Either you are proactive in protecting yourself or you become a victim. Its simply a fact that cannot be disputed.... USA USA USA

Dallas Chief
10-27-2012, 01:09 PM
alcohol

Pot.

Marcellus
10-27-2012, 01:11 PM
... USA USA USA

Make sure to quote this part too.

I am not saying everything the US does or has done is correct, but anybody who thinks all we need to do is leave everyone alone and they will leave us alone is a ****ing idiot.

Ultra Peanut
10-27-2012, 01:16 PM
USA?

Death2CasselFans
10-27-2012, 01:17 PM
While the Panthers fans are assholes....

This whole "defending our freedom" stuff has to stop.

The troops over seas now aren't protecting our freedoms..we're not being threatened by some other nation or power.

The people who are threatening our freedoms are the big banks and people who control our monetary system....that's the root of it all.

But go ahead and vote for Obama or Romney...because they'll change shit.


President Bush‘s 9/11 Speech:

-…We will not forget South Korean children gathering to pray outside our embassy in Seoul, or the prayers of sympathy offered at a mosque in Cairo…The terrorists practice a fringe form of Islamic extremism that has been rejected by Muslim scholars and the vast majority of Muslim clerics; a fringe movement that perverts the peaceful teachings of Islam. The terrorists’ directive commands them to kill Christians and Jews, to kill all Americans and make no distinctions among military and civilians, including women and children…I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world. We respect your faith. It’s practiced freely by many millions of Americans and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends. Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah BLASPHEME THE NAME OF ALLAH. The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself…In all that lies before us, may God grant us wisdom, and may he watch over the United States of America…”

Ultra Peanut
10-27-2012, 01:19 PM
Usa.

CoMoChief
10-27-2012, 03:19 PM
uhm, you know an american embassy was attacked just last month, right?

you know our own govt was behind that attack right?

GloryDayz
10-27-2012, 03:29 PM
While the Panthers fans are assholes....

This whole "defending our freedom" stuff has to stop.

The troops over seas now aren't protecting our freedoms..we're not being threatened by some other nation or power.

The people who are threatening our freedoms are the big banks and people who control our monetary system....that's the root of it all.

But go ahead and vote for Obama or Romney...because they'll change shit.

Sounds like you got the rock under your tent at the last "Occupy" event.

GloryDayz
10-27-2012, 03:30 PM
Cowboys fans aren't just bandwagoners, they're stuck in the 90s.

Clearly more than a generation after our last super bowl win. Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GloryDayz
10-27-2012, 03:37 PM
you know our own govt was behind that attack right?

OK... Right... I'm by no means and Obama fan and he's looking for some press to paint him as a tough guy, but OK!!

http://exposingthetruth.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/conspiracy-theorist-lawsuit.jpg

CoMoChief
10-27-2012, 03:45 PM
Sounds like you got the rock under your tent at the last "Occupy" event.

Sounds like you're brainwashed by the establishment.

GloryDayz
10-27-2012, 03:48 PM
Sounds like you're brainwashed by the establishment.

LOL, OK. Watch out, here comes the sky. It's all good, don't worry the world will end soon anyway.

Valiant
10-27-2012, 03:48 PM
He reminds me of this guy

What I was thinking.

Phobia
10-27-2012, 03:51 PM
Only good part of the entire story is the chick with the white blockhead.

bevischief
10-27-2012, 03:58 PM
You don't mess around with Marines or a veteran you never know what will happen next. I am a veteran.

GloryDayz
10-27-2012, 03:59 PM
You don't mess around with Marines or a veteran you never know what will happen next. I am a veteran.

Rep

KILLER_CLOWN
10-27-2012, 04:06 PM
Only good part of the entire story is the chick with the white blockhead.

Yup, I doubt too many marines will care that this guy acted like a douche and received douchiness as a present in return. Blockhead vs Jarhead?

stevenidol
10-27-2012, 04:34 PM
President Bush‘s 9/11 Speech:

-…We will not forget South Korean children gathering to pray outside our embassy in Seoul, or the prayers of sympathy offered at a mosque in Cairo…The terrorists practice a fringe form of Islamic extremism that has been rejected by Muslim scholars and the vast majority of Muslim clerics; a fringe movement that perverts the peaceful teachings of Islam. The terrorists’ directive commands them to kill Christians and Jews, to kill all Americans and make no distinctions among military and civilians, including women and children…I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world. We respect your faith. It’s practiced freely by many millions of Americans and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends. Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah BLASPHEME THE NAME OF ALLAH. The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself…In all that lies before us, may God grant us wisdom, and may he watch over the United States of America…”

I'd be pissed too if some country had been killing my friends and family for decades. Hell now they can kill my friends and family without one person from that country ever stepping foot on my land because they got a "tip".

CoMoChief
10-27-2012, 09:10 PM
Good post, but remember the individuals volunteering to serve don't make the decisions on where they are sent. To them, they are still willing to sacrifice their lives to defend this nation.
While I agree with your assessment, that blame needs to be directed to where it belongs, not to the individual soldier that is only going where he is sent to.
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I agree what you're saying....I'm just getting really sick and tired of always hearing people use the soldier thing as an excuse. "Well he fought for your freedom." Sorry...no recent soldier of the US military has fought for my freedom. I have respect for people who are willing to put their lives on the line for their country...the only thing is that they're not fighting for their country, they're fighting for special interests.

tooge
10-27-2012, 09:56 PM
This is simPle people. If a veteran is just trying to live their life and a jerkspank is acting up to them, step up , be a man, and tell said jerkspank where to go. Nazi muscle boy would get smoked by a mob of pro vets , as it should be. He couldn't wear that dumbass helmet if it wernt for them

Jiu Jitsu Jon
10-27-2012, 10:12 PM
Carolina has fans?