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BourbonMan
10-31-2012, 01:30 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/kansas-city-chiefs-awful-season-matt-cassel-brady-quinn-romeo-crennel-103112

The Kansas City Chiefs began the season as co-favorites in the AFC West, and some people even listed them as a dark horse for the Super Bowl. They’d beefed up their offensive line by signing the Texans’ stellar right tackle Eric Winston, brought in running back Peyton Hillis to spell Jamaal Charles, added tight end Kevin Boss to add another weapon to a young, talented receiving corps, and returned a stout defense.

GM Scott Pioli said it was clearly the most talented assemblage of players he had in his four years in Kansas City.

That all seems like a long time ago. Now they end the month of October with a 1-6 record, one of the most depressing quarterback controversies in recent memory and historic levels of futility.

They are the first NFL team since 1940 (which is so long ago, I wasn’t even born yet) to go through the first seven games of the regular season without once holding a lead in regulation. (The Chiefs did win one game, against New Orleans, but they didn’t lead until they ended the game with a field goal in overtime.)

Planes are flying over Arrowhead Stadium — once one of the most feared home fortresses in the league — urging co-owner, CEO and chairman of the board Clark Hunt to fire general manager Scott Pioli. The Chiefs’ next two games are on the road, and on national TV, at San Diego (Thursday night) and Pittsburgh (a week from Monday).

What has gone wrong, other than the obvious answer of “nearly everything”? You can point to injuries (as can most any team in football), since Hillis has been injured much of the season, and the key addition Boss has been out since early September. But every team has injuries.

The larger truth is that the Chiefs have been awful in the first quarter, awful in the red zone, and undisciplined throughout the season, with the worst turnover differential in the league (and one of the worst in the history of football at this juncture of the season). It’s still a little mind-boggling seeing a team that was vaunted for protecting the ball and playing smart football under Marty Schottenheimer and, later, Dick Vermeil, being so unsound and mistake-prone.

They turned the ball over four more times — two fumbles and two interceptions — in Sunday’s 26-16 loss to the Raiders. The mistakes came at crucial times. If it wasn’t Javier Arenas fumbling a punt to give the Raiders a short field right before halftime, it was Ryan Lilja and Matt Cassel mishandling a snap early in the second half, to dig an even deeper hole.

Head coach Romeo Crennel has seemed as bewildered as the Chiefs’ fans about what’s wrong with the team. He opened his press conference the day after the horrid loss to Tampa Bay earlier this month by saying, “I don’t know what I can tell you about yesterday other than the fact that we were disappointed in it.”

Sunday, after Charles carried the ball just five times in the loss to the Raiders, Crennel was asked why his star player had so few touches. His answer: “Now, that I’m not exactly sure either.”

He’s also getting more criticism for the disappointing performance of his defense, in light of his decision to continue as the team’s defensive coordinator even while he’s the head coach. I understand why he felt it necessary to continue doing both jobs. But the problem is that it opens you to a whole other layer of criticism.

As a head coach you are held accountable for the entire team and 16 games. As the play-caller there are an additional 1,000 or so calls that people (including your players) will begin to scrutinize if things go poorly.

Crennel is a terrific person, well-liked by his players, and one of the better defensive minds of the past generation. He did great work on the Patriots teams of the early ’00s, and instantly turned around the Chiefs defense when he took over as defensive coordinator in 2010. But, like Bill Arnsparger back in the ’70s, he may be remembered as a defensive mastermind who never quite succeeded as a head coach.

After his disappointing five-year stint in Cleveland, Crennel seemed older and wiser when he took over the Chiefs’ interim head coaching job late last season (the interim tag was taken off a short while after the season ended), emphasizing that he’d been through quarterback controversies and wanted to avoid them at all costs. Naturally, that’s what he’s gotten this year.

The flashpoint in the frustration of Chiefs fans (whom, you’ll recall, haven’t celebrated a postseason win since the 1993 postseason, when Joe Montana was quarterbacking them) has been Matt Cassel, the very composed but very limited quarterback brought over from New England to be reunited with Pioli when he came to the Chiefs in 2009. Cassel has taken a step back this year, and was the subject of fan criticism even in the offseason (he was booed by Kansas City fans at a charity softball game this past summer). Cassel was injured in the Ravens game, and then as a precautionary measure held out of the next game against Tampa Bay. He was replaced by Brady Quinn, who looked a lot like the career backup he’s become in the 38-10 shellacking by the Buccaneers.

Though Cassel was healthy going into this past week’s game, Crennel named Quinn the starting quarterback, and his reasoning may well go down in infamy.

“Probably the most impactful move I could make to get everybody’s attention was to change the quarterback,” Crennel said, going on to add, “My biggest deal was my gut in telling me that I needed to impact the team by changing the dynamic, by having a different dynamic. Brady Quinn is the guy I want to go with.”

You notice he didn’t say Quinn was a better quarterback than Cassel (because he’s not), nor did he say that Quinn gave the Chiefs a better chance to win, only that he wanted to shake things up. Could you imagine Vince Lombardi saying he was switching quarterbacks to “change the dynamic” of the team?

Or Bill Belichick feeling the need to “get everybody’s attention”? At the end of the day, this isn’t a bad football team. But it is a team that’s played a lot of bad football. And the responsibility for that falls at the head coach’s feet.

But it’s not as simple as bad coaching. Pioli, well respected during his years as an aide to Belichick in New England, has at times seemed overwhelmed by all the non-football requirements of his job as general manager.

Every aspect of the organization flows through Pioli, as it did Bill Polian in Indianapolis. And this is a double-edged sword as well: when you win, people say you have a firm grip on the organization; when you lose, they say it’s a stranglehold, and that you’re a micromanaging tyrant.

Pioli’s made some good moves. At the same time, if you look at the Chiefs’ roster today, you have to conclude that most of the team’s dynamic difference-makers — Charles, Dwayne Bowe and Branden Albert on offense, Derrick Johnson, Tamba Hali and Brandon Flowers on defense — were acquired during the last years of Carl Peterson’s tenure, before Pioli arrived.

So what should happen, and who should go? Start with this: The franchise is in its 53rd season, and it’s never drafted and developed its own Pro Bowl-caliber quarterback (Hall of Famer Len Dawson spent five years in the NFL before coming to the franchise; Trent Green bounced around Washington and St. Louis before coming to KC). That’s priority No. 1.

The difficulty for the Chiefs in a nutshell is this: both Crennel and Pioli are really good at what they do. But at this point it does not matter. Unless this magically turns around and they can re-establish their credentials with the owner, the city, the organization, and with each other, the end of the season will bring about the inevitable change for change’s sake. Sometimes a marriage does not blow up, or turn contentious. Sometimes it just simply ceases to be a marriage.

Dayze
10-31-2012, 01:35 PM
It was going to be a dream season?

according to who? Athan?

JFC>

Reerun_KC
10-31-2012, 01:41 PM
How can you say dream season? Cassel and Crennel?

JFC people are fucking stupid...

Phobia
10-31-2012, 01:47 PM
It was going to be a dream season?

according to who? Athan?

JFC>

Peter King had the Chiefs winning the AFCW along with several other pundits. Some even mentioned superbowl. That part of the article is accurate.

BourbonMan
10-31-2012, 01:50 PM
I almost vomitted on this part..

GM Scott Pioli said it was clearly the most talented assemblage of players he had in his four years in Kansas City

Graystoke
10-31-2012, 01:50 PM
Dream Season=Banana Bread

Tonka83
10-31-2012, 01:53 PM
The difficulty for the Chiefs in a nutshell is this: both Crennel and Pioli are really good at what they do. But at this point it does not matter. Unless this magically turns around and they can re-establish their credentials with the owner, the city, the organization, and with each other, the end of the season will bring about the inevitable change for change’s sake. Sometimes a marriage does not blow up, or turn contentious. Sometimes it just simply ceases to be a marriage.

I seriously hope he doesn't really believe that.....

KCDC
10-31-2012, 01:54 PM
This board also expressed a great deal of optimism about the upcoming season. So, it is fair to say there was a dream for a great season.

the Talking Can
10-31-2012, 01:54 PM
The difficulty for the Chiefs in a nutshell is this: both Crennel and Pioli are really good at what they do.

LMAO

ROFL

:shake:

jesus

the Talking Can
10-31-2012, 01:55 PM
This board also expressed a great deal of optimism about the upcoming season. So, it is fair to say there was a dream for a great season.

just the usual homers

no one who was honest with themselves could say we were going anywhere with a piece of shit loser QB...the season was over before it started

Saleenman607
10-31-2012, 02:00 PM
Any swingin' d**k that witnessed the pre-season could tell the team wasn't going anywhere.

Dream year my a$$

That is all, back to hibernation

DJ's left nut
10-31-2012, 02:09 PM
just the usual homers

no one who was honest with themselves could say we were going anywhere with a piece of shit loser QB...the season was over before it started

I bet a $100 steak dinner on us going 7-9 or worse with my boss; pretty sure I'm gonna get to cash that one in.

Some of us saw early on that this team would have to get some breaks to even get to .500. I don't think anyone saw them being quite this bad (I think I had them at 3-4 through this point), but anyone that had this as a 'dream season' were just being homers.

My favorite part of the article was this: has at times seemed overwhelmed by all the non-football requirements of his job as general manager.

Horse shit - he's been plenty overwhelmed by the football requirements of the general manager job. He's been universally dogshit at this. In every single capacity that a person could possibly suck at this job, he has. Football/non-football is immaterial - if its part of his job, he's failed at it.

The only thing he's managed to do is make Hunt money, but frankly with the NFL structured the way it is, especially with the changes in the rookie salary structure and no commensurate spending floor, it's been nearly impossible not to make money in this league. Let's face it, spending over $100 million on Matt Cassel and Tyson Jackson has not helped Clark's bottom line.

He's awful. Just absolutely goddamn awful.

Dayze
10-31-2012, 02:10 PM
Peter King had the Chiefs winning the AFCW along with several other pundits. Some even mentioned superbowl. That part of the article is accurate.

yeah. I should've rephrased I can't believe those guys were picking them to win etc. Beginning of the season I picked 6-10 in the poll. I think alot of us know the team better than those guys.

BoneKrusher
10-31-2012, 02:13 PM
thankfully i didnt expect a dream season.
(no way, with Cassel as the starting QB?)

i picked the Chiefs to have somewhere between 1 and three wins in 2012.

scho63
10-31-2012, 02:41 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/kansas-city-chiefs-awful-season-matt-cassel-brady-quinn-romeo-crennel-103112

The Kansas City Chiefs began the season as co-favorites in the AFC West, and some people even listed them as a dark horse for the Super Bowl.

GM Scott Pioli said it was clearly the most talented assemblage of players he had in his four years in Kansas City.


FAIL!!!

teedubya
10-31-2012, 02:45 PM
We're having a dream season? Sweet!

PBJ

BossChief
10-31-2012, 02:47 PM
We're having a dream season? Sweet!

PBJ

I'll take a year like this every 4 seasons if, at one point, it gets us a franchise quarterback.

Its been OUR dream for quite some time now.

Deberg_1990
10-31-2012, 02:48 PM
Peter King had the Chiefs winning the AFCW along with several other pundits. Some even mentioned superbowl. That part of the article is accurate.

National guys are "Outsiders" They dont have their finger on the pulse and know the day ins and outs of what goes on with the team like most here.

I guess we should define "Dream Season"? But to me that implies Super Bowl. IM guessing alot of us said playoffs(maybe) but not super bowl.

KCUnited
10-31-2012, 02:55 PM
When asked about a dream season, RAC replied "salt".

michaelj_58
10-31-2012, 03:04 PM
I wouldn't say dream year,but 8-8,9-7,And realize a q-back should be drafted to get to next level but this is like a scary movie that the bad guy's slaughter everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!

RunKC
10-31-2012, 03:08 PM
This is a dream season. Pioli will get canned and we get the top choice for a first round QB.

:clap:

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-31-2012, 03:13 PM
I thought they'd be amongst the best team in a shit division. The division was shit, but they are far worse than I imagined.

RunKC
10-31-2012, 03:21 PM
The Chiefs have good talent, but the top 3 positions a franchise needs (GM, HC and QB) are the one's that we have completely failed at.

A college kid can get all A's on every homework assignment, but when he gets F's on every test, he's not passing any class.

New World Order
10-31-2012, 04:19 PM
just the usual homers

no one who was honest with themselves could say we were going anywhere with a piece of shit loser QB...the season was over before it started



I don't think anyone felt it was going to be a dream season, but some if not most members on this site felt they were going to have a productive season.


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=262959

TEX
10-31-2012, 04:34 PM
At the end of the day, this isn’t a bad football team. But it is a team that’s played a lot of bad football. And the responsibility for that falls at the head coach’s feet.


Wrong. At the end of the day this IS a BAD football that plays BAD football.

BigMeatballDave
10-31-2012, 04:50 PM
LOL Dream year?

I thought they could win ten. That's hardly a dream.

BigMeatballDave
10-31-2012, 04:52 PM
At the end of the day, this isn’t a bad football team. But it is a team that’s played a lot of bad football. And the responsibility for that falls at the head coach’s feet.


Wrong. At the end of the day this IS a BAD football that plays BAD football.

Eh, its an average team with shitty coaching.

A good coaching staff and a solid QB and its a play off team.

Count Zarth
10-31-2012, 04:57 PM
Matt Cassel, the very composed

WHAT?

When has captain shite his pants ever been composed?

Fuck.

bevischief
10-31-2012, 05:11 PM
WHAT?

When has captain shite his pants ever been composed?

****.

With his mommy...

texaschiefsfan
10-31-2012, 05:34 PM
It was a called a dream season because you had to be asleep to believe it! Hey oh!!!

saphojunkie
10-31-2012, 05:44 PM
When asked about a dream season, RAC replied "salt".

Not enough people will laugh at this.

saphojunkie
10-31-2012, 05:46 PM
The difficulty for the Chiefs in a nutshell is this: both Crennel and Pioli are really good at what they do.

I seriously hope he doesn't believe that.


That seals it for me. Brian Billick is head coach of the Chiefs in 2013. :(

lcarus
10-31-2012, 05:57 PM
just the usual homers

no one who was honest with themselves could say we were going anywhere with a piece of shit loser QB...the season was over before it started

I thought we were poised to be a pretty good team despite Cassel. I figured we'd have a stout as hell defense and a great running game, and that Cassel would be just good enough to get us at least 9 wins.

Boy how wrong was I?!?! :(

bevischief
10-31-2012, 06:15 PM
It was dream if you thought Cassel could be a QB in the NFL.