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Sorter
11-03-2012, 06:51 PM
For those who want to see a possible prospect compete against a fantastic defense, watch this game.

Sfeihc
11-03-2012, 06:54 PM
He missed a touchdown on that deep ball. Meanwhile, Barkley hit one on an even deeper ball. On McCarron's the WR could have done a better job of running to the ball but still probably overthrown.

Sorter
11-03-2012, 06:54 PM
Nice open field tackle by Milliner.

Mr. Laz
11-03-2012, 07:07 PM
isn't McCarron just 'a guy'?

Mr_Tomahawk
11-03-2012, 07:51 PM
Shawn Zobel ‏@ShawnZobel_DHQ
Give me A.J. McCarron as the top QB in 2013

Sorter
11-03-2012, 08:11 PM
Zobel is worse than Bleacher Report, IMO.

milkman
11-03-2012, 08:14 PM
Zobel is worse than Bleacher Report, IMO.

ChiefsandOsfan posted a link to his mock draft in the college football thread, and he has only 2 QBs going in the first round.

Matt Barkley to the Chiefs with the first pick, and McCarron to the Eagles in the middle of the first round.

That's just stupid beyond words.

Sorter
11-03-2012, 08:16 PM
ChiefsandOsfan posted a link to his mock draft in the college football thread, and he has only 2 QBs going in the first round.

Matt Barkley to the Chiefs with the first pick, and McCarron to the Eagles in the middle of the first round.

That's just stupid beyond words.

Really, it should be a bannable offense to post that fucking garbage.

Nightfyre
11-03-2012, 08:57 PM
ChiefsandO'sfan:
I read it on twitter, it must be true - twitter is gospel.

DaneMcCloud
11-03-2012, 09:08 PM
ChiefsandOsfan

That's where I stopped reading.

The guy is a fucking retard.

DaWolf
11-03-2012, 09:08 PM
McCarron with an overthrow of Cassel proportions. This guy is a first round pick?

AussieChiefsFan
11-03-2012, 09:09 PM
Horrible! pass

Great Expectations
11-03-2012, 09:11 PM
That's where I stopped reading.

The guy is a ****ing retard.

I'm in complete agreement here. At first I thought he just trolled a lot, but his stuff isn't clever enough for that.

SNR
11-03-2012, 09:13 PM
Shawn Zobel ‏@ShawnZobel_DHQ
Give me A.J. McCarron as the top QB in 2013

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SNR
11-03-2012, 09:15 PM
Shawn Zobel will come back with a new mock draft this week with Zach Mettenberger going at #1 over all

SNR
11-03-2012, 09:50 PM
What kind of a franchise QB cries? Shows a great deal of immaturity. Not a locker room leader of men.

Emotional guy, how can we expect him to keep his cool? /ChiefRoundup

:whackit:

Ceej
11-03-2012, 10:02 PM
That's where I stopped reading.

The guy is a ****ing retard.

A FUCKING MEN!!

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-03-2012, 10:04 PM
That's where I stopped reading.

The guy is a ****ing retard.

Do i need to clown you again?

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-03-2012, 10:05 PM
A ****ING MEN!!

Look in the mirror clown.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-03-2012, 10:06 PM
ChiefsandO'sfan:
I read it on twitter, it must be true - twitter is gospel.

It was the guys mock draft dumbass.

Ceej
11-03-2012, 10:06 PM
Look in the mirror clown.

Suck my pole, douche.

The Bad Guy
11-03-2012, 10:08 PM
Nice drive at the end, but I just don't ever see him turning into an NFL QB.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-03-2012, 10:08 PM
I'm in complete agreement here. At first I thought he just trolled a lot, but his stuff isn't clever enough for that.

Still think your trading Hosmer for Price lol.

DaneMcCloud
11-03-2012, 10:09 PM
Do i need to clown you again?

LMAO

Go for it, Corky.

Ceej
11-03-2012, 10:10 PM
Still think your trading Hosmer for Price lol.

Still think Dwayne Bowe is being traded to Miami, lol.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-03-2012, 10:11 PM
LMAO

Go for it, Corky.

Anyone that doesn't agree with me is a retard that's all you got clown.

DaneMcCloud
11-03-2012, 10:11 PM
Still think Dwayne Bowe is being traded to Miami, lol.

If not for Bobtard, this fucking twitter fool is the biggest fucking idiot to hit Chiefsplanet since RoyIII.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-03-2012, 10:11 PM
Still think Dwayne Bowe is being traded to Miami, lol.

Never said he was dumbass.

DaneMcCloud
11-03-2012, 10:11 PM
Anyone that doesn't agree with me is a retard that's all you got clown.

Quite honestly, your takes are so asinine and retarded that nothing more needs to be said.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-03-2012, 10:12 PM
Quite honestly, your takes are so asinine that nothing more needs to be said.

Same could be said about you.

Ceej
11-03-2012, 10:12 PM
Never said he was dumbass.

You believed it enough to post a tweet, like all of your moronic posts on this website. Tool.

Go suck an asshole.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-03-2012, 10:13 PM
If not for Bobtard, this ****ing twitter fool is the biggest ****ing idiot to hit Chiefsplanet since RoyIII.

Don't you need to flip flop on the chiefs?

Ceej
11-03-2012, 10:13 PM
If not for Bobtard, this ****ing twitter fool is the biggest ****ing idiot to hit Chiefsplanet since RoyIII.

Dude is a brainwashed, twitter ballwasher.

Sfeihc
11-03-2012, 10:14 PM
So after 12 hours of watching college football today I must agree there is no qb worth #1 overall. We are totally screwed and there is no relief in sight even if Egoli gets whacked and takes Romeo to Golden Corral.

DaneMcCloud
11-03-2012, 10:14 PM
Don't you need to flip flop on the chiefs?

Excuse me, Corky?

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-03-2012, 10:15 PM
Dude is a brainwashed, twitter ballwasher.


Internet badass gotta love clowns like you.

The Bad Guy
11-03-2012, 10:15 PM
Yeah I'm not getting why ChiefsandO's is getting flamed for his twitter postings. I don't recall him ever stating he believed them, just was posting them.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-03-2012, 10:15 PM
Excuse me, Corky?

Do i need to get clay in here you flip flopper.

DaneMcCloud
11-03-2012, 10:15 PM
Internet badass gotta love clowns like you.

:deevee:

Ceej
11-03-2012, 10:16 PM
CorkyChiefsandOsfan.

ROFL

Perfect.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-03-2012, 10:16 PM
Yeah I'm not getting why ChiefsandO's is getting flamed for his twitter postings. I don't recall him ever stating he believed them, just was posting them.

CJizzles just not that bright is all.

DaneMcCloud
11-03-2012, 10:16 PM
Do i need to get clay in here you flip flopper.

Yeah, sure. Get "Clay" in here, you fucking dumbass retard that lacking any individual thought.

Fucking moron.

The Bad Guy
11-03-2012, 10:16 PM
So after 12 hours of watching college football today I must agree there is no qb worth #1 overall. We are totally screwed and there is no relief in sight even if Egoli gets whacked and takes Romeo to Golden Corral.

100000% disagree.

Players can develop further in the pros with the right coaching and talent.

Matt Ryan has taken an enormous leap with Dirk Koetter's offense and putting pieces around him.

Barkley can have a fine career.

If Pioli is wacked, hope will be restored.

DaneMcCloud
11-03-2012, 10:17 PM
Yeah I'm not getting why ChiefsandO's is getting flamed for his twitter postings. I don't recall him ever stating he believed them, just was posting them.

He has no beliefs. He's just a fucking worthless moron that, for some reason, has been given a pass.

Not any longer.

Ceej
11-03-2012, 10:17 PM
Yeah I'm not getting why ChiefsandO's is getting flamed for his twitter postings. I don't recall him ever stating he believed them, just was posting them.

Peruse through the Royals repository thread if you choose to.

He's a doucher.

DaneMcCloud
11-03-2012, 10:17 PM
100000% disagree.

Players can develop further in the pros with the right coaching and talent.

Matt Ryan has taken an enormous leap with Dirk Koetter's offense and putting pieces around him.

Barkley can have a fine career.

If Pioli is wacked, hope will be restored.

The level of dumbassery is at its highest level in Chiefsplanet history.

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-03-2012, 10:18 PM
The level of dumbassery is at its highest level in Chiefsplanet history.

All you got someone that doesn't agree with you get some new stuff.

The Bad Guy
11-03-2012, 10:22 PM
The level of dumbassery is at its highest level in Chiefsplanet history.

I'll agree with that.

Does this QB crop look good now? No, it doesn't.

However, I'm not willing to pass on another QB because he "might" not pan out. I'm not wasting another year fucking around with complete garbage at the position.

It sucks we aren't this bad in 2011, but it is what it is.

People saying we have no hope because the QB looks bad in a few games is absurd.

Sorter
11-03-2012, 10:27 PM
The level of dumbassery is at its highest level in Chiefsplanet history.

The banners came with a terrible price it seems...

DaneMcCloud
11-03-2012, 10:29 PM
All you got someone that doesn't agree with you get some new stuff.

English, Motherfucker! Do you speak it?

It appears that you don't. But thanks for copying and pasting Twitter comments that appear long before you post them.

Dumbass.

DaneMcCloud
11-03-2012, 10:29 PM
The banners came with a terrible price it seems...

Karma Chameleon

DaneMcCloud
11-03-2012, 10:31 PM
I'll agree with that.

Does this QB crop look good now? No, it doesn't.

However, I'm not willing to pass on another QB because he "might" not pan out. I'm not wasting another year fucking around with complete garbage at the position.

It sucks we aren't this bad in 2011, but it is what it is.

People saying we have no hope because the QB looks bad in a few games is absurd.

As with most all highly rated QB prospects, Barkley would need to be "protected" by the coaching staff and brought along slowly. But I think he has all the makings of a solid, if not spectacular, WCO QB.

I'd imagine by year three he'd be ready to put a team on his shoulders and lead. Time will tell.

Chiefspants
11-03-2012, 11:01 PM
Do i need to get clay in here you flip flopper.

Lol, you want to summon the wise man who was calling Pioli our "balla ass GM" in 2011? Okay.

SNR
11-03-2012, 11:02 PM
I'm beginning to think a top QB is a top QB. If a guy has the potential, he's worth drafting. Period.

Like milkman was saying earlier, it boils down to pocket presence and accuracy. And all three of this year's top QBs possess good amounts of both.

They're all potential franchise QBs. I happen to think Geno Smith is the best. Just fucking draft a guy.

Priest31kc
11-03-2012, 11:03 PM
I'm beginning to think a top QB is a top QB. If a guy has the potential, he's worth drafting. Period.

Like milkman was saying earlier, it boils down to pocket presence and accuracy. And all three of this year's top QBs possess good amounts of both.

They're all potential franchise QBs. I happen to think Geno Smith is the best. Just fucking draft a guy.

This.

Nightfyre
11-04-2012, 01:12 AM
Anyway, tonight's game demonstrated two things about AJ McCarron:
1) I'm sold on his capability to be a franchise QB
2) He's going to need some polishing

keg in kc
11-04-2012, 01:15 AM
Barkley is Sanchez if he'd stayed in school like he should have. I'm not completely sold, but think he'd be worth the risk. Although I like Smith more. But it's time to do something, try something.

AussieChiefsFan
11-04-2012, 01:15 AM
Anyway, tonight's game demonstrated two things about AJ McCarron:
1) I'm sold on his capability to be a franchise QB
2) He's going to need some polishingHe did have some pretty bad throws though, towrds the end he was great

tredadda
11-04-2012, 01:03 AM
He did have some pretty bad throws though, towrds the end he was great

He was money when it mattered.

bandwagonjumper
11-04-2012, 04:31 AM
He was money when it mattered.

I'm never buying this. Mark Sanchez was money with the Jets in his first two years. You wouldn't want him would you? Late game heroics doesn't disguide the fact that he sucked in the second half and was the reason there nearly lost.

Woodchuck
11-04-2012, 07:40 AM
McCarron did the one thing the others have not yesterday. I liked what I saw. So many NFL games come down to the last two minutes and McCarron did it against the #1 secondary in college football yesterday.

PGM
11-04-2012, 07:40 AM
JFC

tredadda
11-04-2012, 07:51 AM
I'm never buying this. Mark Sanchez was money with the Jets in his first two years. You wouldn't want him would you? Late game heroics doesn't disguide the fact that he sucked in the second half and was the reason there nearly lost.

1. I don't want him with our #1 pick

2. He won. When it mattered most, he carried his team on his back and won.

3. Sanchez is garbage, but he is still better than any QB we currently have on our roster.

Dayze
11-04-2012, 08:13 AM
McCarron will be a good late 1st to mid 2nd round pick. If we are morons and take an OL with our top 3 pick, I'd take AJ later

milkman
11-04-2012, 08:31 AM
McCarron did the one thing the others have not yesterday. I liked what I saw. So many NFL games come down to the last two minutes and McCarron did it against the #1 secondary in college football yesterday.

He did it against a prevent defense.

If he sucks for 58 minutes against an NFL quality opponent, that last 2 minutes is just Matt Cassel garbage time.

Reaper16
11-04-2012, 09:37 AM
That was McCarron's first bad game of the season (and yeah, it was BAD). It's why in the other thread about him I said he was still a 3rd round guy despite playing like a superstar this season...I was worried that the carriage would turn into a pumpkin. It did last night.

He's still a guy with lots of NFL upside. We'll see if this is his only poor game of the season.

Chris Meck
11-04-2012, 10:11 AM
I'd take him in the 3rd. After drafting a QB #1. I might find a QB worthy of the top pick in the 2nd, too. Hell, maybe the 4th.

Saul Good
11-04-2012, 11:11 AM
McCarron will be a top 15 pick if he comes out this year. He will likely be top 5 if he comes out next year.

Saul Good
11-04-2012, 11:14 AM
That was McCarron's first bad game of the season (and yeah, it was BAD). It's why in the other thread about him I said he was still a 3rd round guy despite playing like a superstar this season...I was worried that the carriage would turn into a pumpkin. It did last night.

He's still a guy with lots of NFL upside. We'll see if this is his only poor game of the season.

In his worst game of the season, he completed over half of his passes with a game winning touchdown and no INTs on the road against the best defense in the country (other than his own).

Reaper16
11-04-2012, 11:19 AM
In his worst game of the season, he completed over half of his passes with a game winning touchdown and no INTs on the road against the best defense in the country (other than his own).

He did look right in the last two minutes. He looked very, very wrong in the other 58.

theelusiveeightrop
11-04-2012, 11:22 AM
McCarron will be a top 15 pick if he comes out this year. He will likely be top 5 if he comes out next year.


Top 15? Interesting.

Saul Good
11-04-2012, 11:26 AM
He did look right in the last two minutes. He looked very, very wrong in the other 58.

He played the best defense in the country at night on the road in the most difficult venue in the country. They led the e tire game, and he did what was asked of him. When the Tigers started scoring and took the lead, he marched down the field and won the game.

Against LSU, if you don't throw 2-3 INTs, you haven't had a terrible game.

Reaper16
11-04-2012, 11:36 AM
He played the best defense in the country at night on the road in the most difficult venue in the country. They led the e tire game, and he did what was asked of him. When the Tigers started scoring and took the lead, he marched down the field and won the game.

Against LSU, if you don't throw 2-3 INTs, you haven't had a terrible game.

Every NFL defense is better than LSU's. McCarron must improve.

He will go in the first round. I wouldn't draft him there, but he'll go there.

htismaqe
11-04-2012, 12:00 PM
He did look right in the last two minutes. He looked very, very wrong in the other 58.

In a way, that is kind of what we need.

Woodchuck
11-04-2012, 12:04 PM
He did it against a prevent defense.

If he sucks for 58 minutes against an NFL quality opponent, that last 2 minutes is just Matt Cassel garbage time.

Horseshit. That stadium is the toughest place to play in - in the USA. Especially at night when the cajuns have been drinking since 9:00 A.M. The TD came from an excellent blitz read by McCarron. Don't try and minimize it Geno ball sucker.

I'm not saying we should take McCarron #1 but, I am saying Geno doesn't do that kind of thing. He hasn't shown he has it in him. How many NFL games come down to the end?

SNR
11-04-2012, 12:38 PM
Horseshit. That stadium is the toughest place to play in - in the USA. Especially at night when the cajuns have been drinking since 9:00 A.M. The TD came from an excellent blitz read by McCarron. Don't try and minimize it Geno ball sucker.

I'm not saying we should take McCarron #1 but, I am saying Geno doesn't do that kind of thing. He hasn't shown he has it in him. How many NFL games come down to the end?

Prevent is prevent, dumbass. Just because Les Miles is a retard doesn't mean McCarron was brilliant against all odds last night.

milkman
11-04-2012, 12:47 PM
Horseshit. That stadium is the toughest place to play in - in the USA. Especially at night when the cajuns have been drinking since 9:00 A.M. The TD came from an excellent blitz read by McCarron. Don't try and minimize it Geno ball sucker.

I'm not saying we should take McCarron #1 but, I am saying Geno doesn't do that kind of thing. He hasn't shown he has it in him. How many NFL games come down to the end?

I am not going to spend a top 10 pick on a mediocre game manager.

That is McCarron's ceiling.

milkman
11-04-2012, 12:48 PM
And the majority of plays in that winning drive came against a 3 man rush, prevent zone.

One good read does not a good QB make.

Reaper16
11-04-2012, 01:31 PM
I am not going to spend a top 10 pick on a mediocre game manager.

That is McCarron's ceiling.

No it isn't. Only a dumbass would say that, milkman.

notorious
11-04-2012, 01:34 PM
How many successful NFL QB's were surrounded by 4 & 5 star talent in college?


/thread

milkman
11-04-2012, 01:36 PM
No it isn't. Only a dumbass would say that, milkman.

You call me when McCarron actually does something.

Reaper16
11-04-2012, 01:45 PM
You call me when McCarron actually does something.

What does that even mean, milkman? Do you want evidence of him making NFL throws, showing off NFL tangibles? Then watch any Alabama game from this current season that wasn't last night's game against LSU. Do you want evidence of him making tight throws and good decisions against an incredible defense in a high-stakes situation? Watch the 2011 BCS championship game.

To say his ceiling -- a term used for the highest level of play that a player can possibly achieve -- is a mediocre game manager is just flat-out incorrect.

In my opinion, I see his ceiling as a Matt Schaub-like QB.

NewChief
11-04-2012, 02:13 PM
What does that even mean, milkman? Do you want evidence of him making NFL throws, showing off NFL tangibles? Then watch any Alabama game from this current season that wasn't last night's game against LSU. Do you want evidence of him making tight throws and good decisions against an incredible defense in a high-stakes situation? Watch the 2011 BCS championship game.

To say his ceiling -- a term used for the highest level of play that a player can possibly achieve -- is a mediocre game manager is just flat-out incorrect.

In my opinion, I see his ceiling as a Matt Schaub-like QB.

I had forgotten about him being total nails in that BCS game.

milkman
11-04-2012, 02:18 PM
What does that even mean, milkman? Do you want evidence of him making NFL throws, showing off NFL tangibles? Then watch any Alabama game from this current season that wasn't last night's game against LSU. Do you want evidence of him making tight throws and good decisions against an incredible defense in a high-stakes situation? Watch the 2011 BCS championship game.

To say his ceiling -- a term used for the highest level of play that a player can possibly achieve -- is a mediocre game manager is just flat-out incorrect.

In my opinion, I see his ceiling as a Matt Schaub-like QB.

Trent Dilfer was outstanding in the 2000 SB against the Giants, and came up with some huge plays in the playoffs in that SB run.

Total body of work tells us he was a mediocre game manager.

That is AJ McCarron's body of work.

Nightfyre
11-04-2012, 02:19 PM
Trent Dilfer was outstanding in the 2000 SB against the Giants, and came up with some huge plays in the playoffs in that SB run.

Total body of work tells us he was a mediocre game manager.

That is AJ McCarron's body of work.

Just because McCarron is ASKED to be a game manager does not mean that is all he is capable of.

Reaper16
11-04-2012, 02:31 PM
Trent Dilfer was outstanding in the 2000 SB against the Giants, and came up with some huge plays in the playoffs in that SB run.

Total body of work tells us he was a mediocre game manager.

That is AJ McCarron's body of work.

You want to use college body of work as what defines a player's NFL ceiling? Are you sure you want to go down that road? That runs counter to everything we understand about scouting and the concept of projecting a college player to the next level.

It's OK to admit that you haven't watched many Alabama games lately, milkman.

milkman
11-04-2012, 02:34 PM
You want to use college body of work as what defines a player's NFL ceiling? Are you sure you want to go down that road? That runs counter to everything we understand about scouting and the concept of projecting a college player to the next level.

It's OK to admit that you haven't watched many Alabama games lately, milkman.

I haven't watched many games this year.

Maybe he has done things this year that changes my opinion.

But based on games I watched last year, and last night's game, I am not sold that he is anything more than I've portrayed him.

Reaper16
11-04-2012, 02:39 PM
I haven't watched many games this year.

Maybe he has done things this year that changes my opinion.

But based on games I watched last year, and last night's game, I am not sold that he is anything more than I've portrayed him.

If that's all you've seen then you'd have no choice but to portray him that way. I was assailing him last season for his poor play. Safe game managing, inaccurate when called upon to make a play.

I see every game he plays. I see every home game he plays in person (and as we all know being able to see the whole field is very useful in assessing a QB's performance). I'm telling you that a switch was turned on with him in last year's regular-season finale against Auburn. Since then he has been a guy who looks and plays like an NFL-caliber QB. Last night was his first poor game since LAST YEAR's LSU game, or if you want to be strict, since 11/12/11 at Mississippi State.

Willie Lanier
11-05-2012, 12:02 AM
I may be cautiously and even skeptically optimistic about Smith and Barkley, but I want NO part of a Nick Saban QB... That would seem like another moronic Stanzi pick... Great college QB, who knows maybe they'll develop in five years, NO THANKS

Woodchuck
11-05-2012, 07:11 AM
I am not going to spend a top 10 pick on a mediocre game manager.

That is McCarron's ceiling.

Maybe he is a game manager but he did something Geno and most of the others have not. Also, did you watch Tannehill on the final drive of that Indy game yesterday? He was terrible on that drive. The difference in that game yesterday was that Luck was "clutch" and Tannehill was not. This is exactly why I prayed we wouldn't draft Tannehill. He never stepped up in college in those big games and big moments. Does that sound familiar? So many NFL games come down to the end. We better get a QB who can close the deal or we are spinning our wheels.

Furthermore, how do you know you aren't going to spend a first round pick on a game manager? You say you look for pocket awareness and accuracy but, don't the majority of first round quarterbacks have those qualities? There is only a 30% chance a first round QB will be successful. We need someone with more than those two characteristics because it's about alot more than that.

I was never trying to say that we should take McCarron in the first. I'm just saying what he did is what I am looking for the most in quarterbacks. Guys like Russell Wilson, Joe Montana, and Tom Brady did the same thing in college. It is what matters the most. It's about making the play when it has to be made. It's about taking the team on your shoulders.

If your QB can't do this, you aren't going far in the NFL. If we take a first round QB, he better be able to do this imo.

Zeke
11-05-2012, 07:33 AM
You call me when McCarron actually does something.

Not to piss on your parade, but he DID win the National Championship last year... And was named Offensive MVP of that game.

I'm not a McCarron pimp... just saying..

SNR
11-05-2012, 07:50 AM
Maybe he is a game manager but he did something Geno and most of the others have not. Also, did you watch Tannehill on the final drive of that Indy game yesterday? He was terrible on that drive. The difference in that game yesterday was that Luck was "clutch" and Tannehill was not. This is exactly why I prayed we wouldn't draft Tannehill. He never stepped up in college in those big games and big moments. Does that sound familiar? So many NFL games come down to the end. We better get a QB who can close the deal or we are spinning our wheels.

Furthermore, how do you know you aren't going to spend a first round pick on a game manager? You say you look for pocket awareness and accuracy but, don't the majority of first round quarterbacks have those qualities? There is only a 30% chance a first round QB will be successful. We need someone with more than those two characteristics because it's about alot more than that.

I was never trying to say that we should take McCarron in the first. I'm just saying what he did is what I am looking for the most in quarterbacks. Guys like Russell Wilson, Joe Montana, and Tom Brady did the same thing in college. It is what matters the most. It's about making the play when it has to be made. It's about taking the team on your shoulders.

If your QB can't do this, you aren't going far in the NFL. If we take a first round QB, he better be able to do this imo.

Russell Wilson rarely ever was the one to make "the play" in college. He's the QB who had "the play" made against him. All the time. I didn't give a shit about that, but it was concerning that I had never seen him be the edgy slippery guy who made the game-winning drive in the last seconds.

Oh, and McCarron was playing against a prevent zone, you dumbass.

Woodchuck
11-05-2012, 08:32 AM
Russell Wilson rarely ever was the one to make "the play" in college. He's the QB who had "the play" made against him. All the time. I didn't give a shit about that, but it was concerning that I had never seen him be the edgy slippery guy who made the game-winning drive in the last seconds.

Oh, and McCarron was playing against a prevent zone, you dumbass.

:facepalm: Did you watch Wilson in the Big 10 Championship game when you evalutated him last year? I figured that one would have been pretty important to most people when going through the scouting process...

Also, are you sure LSU played a prevent defense at the end of that game the other night? Sorry man but, you and Milkman are straight up wrong. Watch the tape below and you'll see that LSU called the prevent once.

On the first play, LSU blitzed the nickelback

On the second play, LSU blitzed the nickel and dime backs

On the third play, LSU blitzed a LB and the dime back

On the 4th play, LSU called the prevent. However, McCarron threw it deep and the pass was on the money. The WR tripped or it would have been a TD. DESPITE THE PREVENT.

On the 5th play, the nickelback, dimeback, and a LB blitzed.

The bottom line is that they brought the fucking house in the loudest stadium in the country (college or pro) and McCarron picked them apart.

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I know you love Geno but, quit making shit up. He hasn't done this shit.