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Douche Baggins
11-06-2012, 02:35 AM
Read this post slowly and carefully. Do not skip to the end. You need to fully comprehend the content of this post to appreciate the impact of the message.

The SRS on PFR is a great tool to compare teams historically beyond W-L record. A definition:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=538

To refresh your memory, it’s a system that’s been around forever and is extremely basic compared some of the other power rating systems out there. But I like it because it’s easy to understand.

An average team will have a rating of zero. An above average team will have a positive rating while a below average team will have a negative rating.

Every team will have a rating that is the equal to their average point margin plus the average of their opponent’s ratings, so the teams’ ratings are all interdependent.

The Colts’ rating depends upon the ratings of all their opponents, which depends upon the ratings of all their opponents (some of which are the Colts), and so on.

Let's take a look at some SRS for good Chiefs teams.

http://www.footblog.com/images/priest_holmes.jpg

1968 +14.0
1969 +11.9

1997 +8.4
2003 +8.3


Let's take a look at some SRS for bad Chiefs teams.


http://www.ingewood.com/images/brodie_croyle_photo.jpg

2008 -9.2
1988 -5.7
1977 -4.9


Let's take a look at some SRS for bad teams throughout NFL history.

This is the SRS rating for the worst teams these franchises have fielded. Any franchise that did not hit close to -15 or worse was excluded.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/April-30-1990-Jeff-George-Indianapolis-Colts-Football-Sports-Illustrated-OLD-/22/!CBZDmvwBWk~$(KGrHqQOKkIE0YRojg,kBNHdLZJOGQ~~_35.JPG


2000 Cardinals -15.2
1966 Falcons -15.5
2000 Browns -14.6
1960 Cowboys -14.8
2009 Lions -14.4
1950 Packers -18.2
1991 Colts -17.3
2012 Jaguars -15.5
1972 Patriots -17.4
1966 Giants -16.8
1965 Steelers -18.3
1976 Seahawks -15.1
2009 Rams -17.4
1976 Oilers -16.8


You may have noticed I left out all of Scott Pioli's Chiefs teams.

Let's take a look at those juggernauts!

http://cdn.sportsoverdose.com/thumbs/matt-cassel-7-nfl.jpg

2009 -8.4
2010 -0.7
2011 -8.1


Ouch. Even when Pioli fielded a winning team, it had a negative rating. Overrated team? Yes.


We're about to get to the 2012 Chiefs. Hang tight.


Are you ready for this, Scott?

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/63/633314.jpg

YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIKE THIS, PIOLI.

https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/2706699042/5002956ab3dc2fde7c35916b212ba3c9.jpeg

GET READY TO BURN, YOU FRAUD!!!!

http://www.sportstalkflorida.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Chiefs_Scott_Pioli_2012-300x237.jpg



The Three Worst Teams In NFL History.


T-1. 1976 Bucs -19.7

T-1. 1954 Redskins -19.7

2. 2012 Kansas City Chiefs -18.4


Hang tight, boys. Eight games left. We can still field...

The Worst Team In NFL History.

Silock
11-06-2012, 02:41 AM
Jesus Christ.

AussieChiefsFan
11-06-2012, 02:42 AM
wow http://www.regretsy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/SIMON-CONFUSED-GIF.gif

pr_capone
11-06-2012, 02:42 AM
ouch

Douche Baggins
11-06-2012, 02:45 AM
ALSO...

The worst offense in Chiefs history? 2011.

2nd worst?

2012.

Worst defense in Chiefs history?

2012.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/

Just go there and sort by the column at the far right. SRS, OSRS and DSRS.

AussieChiefsFan
11-06-2012, 02:45 AM
ALSO...

The worst offense in Chiefs history? 2011.

2nd worst?

2012.

Worst defense in Chiefs history?

2012.:(

Von Dumbass
11-06-2012, 03:31 AM
IT'S ONLY THE PRESEASON. JFC these games don't matter!

Pushead2
11-06-2012, 03:52 AM
:(:shake:

htismaqe
11-06-2012, 04:35 AM
This is absolutely fucking awesome.

Sorter
11-06-2012, 05:37 AM
Fuck it. Let's just print everything. This, the Cassel doc, the Pioli doc, the Hamas letter and just mail that fucker to Clark. Email too.

I'm sure he already knows most of this (I would hope) but lol, getting a fucking giant envelope just filled with statistics exposing Pioli all at one time and in one sitting would be fantastic IMO. Clark also seems like the kinda guy who would actually sit down and read every single bit.

htismaqe
11-06-2012, 05:53 AM
I think it's time to step up the game.

Here's the bottom line for me:

It's not just that they're losing. It's not JUST that they're HISTORICALLY inept.

It's that they're also "my shit don't stink" assholes that treat the fans like sheep and their Patriot Way buddies like kings.

I love football and I love the Kansas City Chiefs. But I'm at the point where I WISH to all that is Holy that I could quit. I would love nothing more at this point than to not care about this team anymore and move on.

theelusiveeightrop
11-06-2012, 05:55 AM
More evidence.Great.

HemiEd
11-06-2012, 06:00 AM
I didn't need to see all of those numbers, as I posted last week this was the worst team I have ever seen take the field for the Chiefs in 43 years of fandom.

Watching them has now become more of a curiosity, similar to gawking at a 11 car pile up in the opposing lanes of traffic.

You slow down to look, then you move on, thanking God it wasn't you.

My rival fan friends feel sorry for me, and show pity.

cyborgtable
11-06-2012, 06:02 AM
That is just fucking unbelievable

FAX
11-06-2012, 06:08 AM
That's ... well ... amazing.

If I were in charge of SOC, I'd email that document to every media outlet on the planet.

Great research effort, Mr. GoChiefs.

FAX

stonedstooge
11-06-2012, 06:21 AM
Not worried. Romeo's got this. That "Play Good Football" sign will turn it around

PGM
11-06-2012, 06:30 AM
Cassel just bought a Papa John's Franchise

TEX
11-06-2012, 06:46 AM
Did you take into account there are less paper wrappers around Arrowhead?

notorious
11-06-2012, 07:07 AM
I love football and I love the Kansas City Chiefs. But I'm at the point where I WISH to all that is Holy that I could quit. I would love nothing more at this point than to not care about this team anymore and move on.

That is EXACTLY what they hope will happen to most of us.


Think about it: AFC WEST


Oakland : West Coast
San Diego : West Coast
Denver : West
L.A. : West Coast

/removes tinfoilhat

Bob Dole
11-06-2012, 07:24 AM
Cassel just bought a Papa John's Franchise

That's the ONLY way he'll be mentioned in the same sentence with Peyton Manning...

Rain Man
11-06-2012, 09:25 AM
Not worried. Romeo's got this. That "Play Good Football" sign will turn it around

The thing I like about that sign is that it's so inspiring. It really makes you stop and think, and then you say to yourself, "Hey, that sign is right. I really should play good football."

Saccopoo
11-06-2012, 09:54 AM
I think it's time to step up the game.

Here's the bottom line for me:

It's not just that they're losing. It's not JUST that they're HISTORICALLY inept.

It's that they're also "my shit don't stink" assholes that treat the fans like sheep and their Patriot Way buddies like kings.

I love football and I love the Kansas City Chiefs. But I'm at the point where I WISH to all that is Holy that I could quit. I would love nothing more at this point than to not care about this team anymore and move on.

Odd...

I don't think I've ever cared more about the team.

I don't think I've ever been as passionate about the team.

I know that change, massive change, change for the better is coming. Coming on like an unyielding torrent of freedom and liberty.

This is our French Revolution. This is our knocking down of the Berlin Wall. This is our watching George W Bush and Dick Cheney walk out of the White House knowing that they could never return.

Change is coming. A new era of the Chiefs begins soon.

A new, first round QB. The first in 30 years.

A new, competent GM.

A new, competent coaching staff.

The sins of the past are about to be washed away my friends.

This is the beginning of the new glory years for the Chiefs, and we can say that we were there when it all began!

Viva la Revolution! Viva la Chiefs!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6uxrey2vBPU/S6F2Cx1xWpI/AAAAAAAAAAU/1TFcAaEguYU/S900-R/George_Washington_in_the_American_Revolution.jpg
http://www.mce.k12tn.net/revolutionary_war/spirit.jpg

L.A. Chieffan
11-06-2012, 09:58 AM
'54 Skins were a bunch of pussies

Bowser
11-06-2012, 10:01 AM
Look at Saccopoop, finding the silver lining. Lots of truth to his post.

For me, this year has turned into pure fascination. I'm enthralled to watch at this point. I've never seen such shitty pro football played in my entire life (or at least from when I started really paying attention, circa 1990), especially from a Chiefs team. Gunther had a decent team and a kinda bad team. Herm had bad teams. What we are watching now just totally sets a new bar for the term "awful".

Pure fascination. Let's see how far down this sinkhole drops.

bobbything
11-06-2012, 10:07 AM
If I understand this rating system correctly, we take our average margin of victory/loss and add it to our opponents average margin. Thus, it means that we are -X points below the average for ourselves. Added to that, our opponents are (most likely) in the negative as well?

Jesus Christ, this is bad.

gta0012
11-06-2012, 10:13 AM
Need ownership that cares.

bevischief
11-06-2012, 10:22 AM
JFC

Rain Man
11-06-2012, 10:25 AM
I attribute this to the Rodney Hudson injury. He'll be fine next year and we'll be back.

bobbything
11-06-2012, 10:28 AM
Just looked it up. Our margin of loss is -13.4 points per game. Our opponents is -4.7. Looking ahead, our opponents have an average of -5.7 left (obviously, that will change somewhat). However, if things remain consistent, to stay in 2nd place, we just need to keep our own point differential average at -12.7 (a little bit higher than what we're currently at).

If we want to overtake 1st place, we need to make the point differential average -14.1.

This is definitely doable.

Edit: Sorry, my math was off. We need to average -14.1, not -13.67...I think. I'm not that good at this.

Edit Edit: Dammit, this is wrong too. Basically, we need to average (over 16 game) -14.6 points to break the record. We're at -13.4 now. Need to increase our losing margin by 1.2 points per game.

Rain Man
11-06-2012, 10:31 AM
Just looked it up. Our margin of loss is -13.4 points per game. Our opponents is -4.7. Looking ahead, our opponents have an average of -5.7 left (obviously, that will change somewhat). However, if things remain consistent, to stay in 2nd place, we just need to keep our own point differential average at -12.7 (a little bit higher than what we're currently at).

If we want to overtake 1st place, we need to make the point differential average -13.67.

This is definitely doable.

If you're going to be bad, you might as well go for the record. It gives you a place in history. No one remembers the team that came in second-to-worst.

Priest31kc
11-06-2012, 10:34 AM
Just wow.

If Clark Hunt keeps Pioli...It is further proof that he does not care whatsoever.

And I'll be done with this team.

I tweeted this thread out to a bunch of the local media so they can see it...

The Program ‏@theprogramkc
Wow...interesting stuff. RT @BrentBertrand: Chiefs fans: READ THE ORIGINAL POST ON THIS THREAD. @theprogramkc

Hopefully he'll talk about it...

Mr_Tomahawk
11-06-2012, 10:37 AM
Good work Clay.

Mr. Flopnuts
11-06-2012, 10:43 AM
GoChiefs is just destroying this front office. I've never seen anything like it. He's exposing these frauds and some of our fans get pissed at him for it? Fucking retards. Well done, sir.

KC Tattoo
11-06-2012, 10:49 AM
If only we lost to the saints so we can be in the Loins den & go 0~16. Then I think we would get more notoriety on the national level.

Bowser
11-06-2012, 10:54 AM
If only we lost to the saints so we can be in the Loins den & go 0~16. Then I think we would get more notoriety on the national level.

That's the crazy thing. We can end up leaps and bounds worse than a team that went 0-fer in a season.

DJ's left nut
11-06-2012, 10:57 AM
GoChiefs is just destroying this front office. I've never seen anything like it. He's exposing these frauds and some of our fans get pissed at him for it? Fucking retards. Well done, sir.

No doubt.

He's gone full Goatse on the front office over the last month or so.

Even though he was a full-fledged Pioli-smoker and is actually fairly late to this party, I have to give him a great deal of credit for picking up the baton and running wi....no, that's not right. I give him credit for picking up the baton and jamming it right up Pioli's posterior.

Well done, Clay.

Buehler445
11-06-2012, 11:11 AM
Look at Saccopoop, finding the silver lining. Lots of truth to his post.

For me, this year has turned into pure fascination. I'm enthralled to watch at this point. I've never seen such shitty pro football played in my entire life (or at least from when I started really paying attention, circa 1990), especially from a Chiefs team. Gunther had a decent team and a kinda bad team. Herm had bad teams. What we are watching now just totally sets a new bar for the term "awful".

Pure fascination. Let's see how far down this sinkhole drops.

The truly mindboggling thing is this team has a lot of talent.

Winston, Albert, Lilja, Asomoah, Bowe, Breaston, Charles, Hillis, hell even Droghn is talented, and McCluster, if they'd use him isn't terrible.

on the other side, Tamba, Houston, Powe, Flowers DJ, Berry.

All good players. AND they find a way to be the third worst team in the history of the motherfucking league. WHAT THE FUCK.

Sweet Daddy Hate
11-06-2012, 11:18 AM
Sweet merciful Jesus...

ROFLLMAOROFLLMAOROFL

PIOLI!LMAOLMAOLMAO

Woodchuck
11-06-2012, 11:25 AM
The truly mindboggling thing is this team has a lot of talent.
Winston, Albert, Lilja, Asomoah, Bowe, Breaston, Charles, Hillis, hell even Droghn is talented, and McCluster, if they'd use him isn't terrible.

on the other side, Tamba, Houston, Powe, Flowers DJ, Berry.

All good players. AND they find a way to be the third worst team in the history of the mother****ing league. WHAT THE ****.

No, it doesn't. Alot of those guys are crap. Pure fucking crap. I wanted them to be good but, It's time to start being honest.

It's not all on Cassel, Pioli, and Crennel.

htismaqe
11-06-2012, 11:26 AM
No, it doesn't. Alot of those guys are crap. Pure ****ing crap. I wanted them to be good but, It's time to start being honest.

It's not all on Cassel, Pioli, and Crennel.

We know, Scott. It's not all your fault.

It's Bowe's fault. And DJ's.

BCD
11-06-2012, 11:28 AM
It's not all on Cassel, Pioli, and Crennel.
LMAO

You're the biggest goddamned retard on this board.

teedubya
11-06-2012, 11:31 AM
With all of the positive research that Clay has been doing lately... how in the fuck is he still in the negative red rep?

RockChalk
11-06-2012, 11:33 AM
GoChiefs is just destroying this front office. I've never seen anything like it. He's exposing these frauds and some of our fans get pissed at him for it? ****ing retards. Well done, sir.

It would be great if this became his new niche on this board.

alpha_omega
11-06-2012, 11:36 AM
ALSO...

The worst offense in Chiefs history? 2011.

2nd worst?

2012.

Worst defense in Chiefs history?

2012.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/

Just go there and sort by the column at the far right. SRS, OSRS and DSRS.

Holy Schniekies!

Bowser
11-06-2012, 11:46 AM
With all of the positive research that Clay has been doing lately... how in the fuck is he still in the negative red rep?

His rep is permabanned.

Mugalug
11-06-2012, 11:56 AM
With all of the positive research that Clay has been doing lately... how in the **** is he still in the negative red rep?



I have lurked for far longer than I am willing to admit, but lets just say GC has a big hole to crawl out of. :). That said, Clay is kicking ass right now. Keep hope alive, brother.

Sorter
11-06-2012, 12:18 PM
His rep is permabanned.

^^This.

whoman69
11-06-2012, 12:21 PM
ALSO...

The worst offense in Chiefs history? 2011.

2nd worst?

2012.

Worst defense in Chiefs history?

2012.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/

Just go there and sort by the column at the far right. SRS, OSRS and DSRS.

This defense can't be worse than the Grob 32 defense.

Buehler445
11-06-2012, 12:24 PM
This defense can't be worse than the Grob 32 defense.

I dunno man, they got some stops, just couldn't buy one when we needed it.

This one gave up 50 points to the fucking Bills. Got crushed by a 2 win Faid team. Just terrible.

Buehler445
11-06-2012, 12:25 PM
With all of the positive research that Clay has been doing lately... how in the fuck is he still in the negative red rep?

Yeah, I gotta give it to GoChiefs. He's done some good work this year.

Douche Baggins
11-06-2012, 12:29 PM
GoChiefs is just destroying this front office. I've never seen anything like it. He's exposing these frauds and some of our fans get pissed at him for it? Fucking retards. Well done, sir.

http://i.imgur.com/nHfmp.gif

Douche Baggins
11-06-2012, 12:31 PM
Even though he was a full-fledged Pioli-smoker and is actually fairly late to this party

You've got to be kidding me, dude.

I've been doing this since late 2010.

"Frauds."

I do apologize for lauding the 2011 draft, though.

Sorter
11-06-2012, 12:35 PM
You've got to be kidding me, dude.

I've been doing this since late 2010.

"Frauds."

I do apologize for lauding the 2011 draft, though.

I wouldn't. Everyone did.

shaggyshane
11-06-2012, 12:38 PM
Sad stat!:(

Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Douche Baggins
11-06-2012, 12:43 PM
This defense can't be worse than the Grob 32 defense.

Yes it can.

Because Robinson's defense played good teams.

Also, GROB:

2001 - 21.5 PPG allowed
2002 - 24.9 PPG allowed
2003 - 20.8 PPG allowed

2012 - 30.0 PPG allowed

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Bane
11-06-2012, 12:44 PM
It's like a bad dream that never ends.

Douche Baggins
11-06-2012, 12:45 PM
This defense is giving up 6.3 yards per play.

The 2004 Chiefs gave up 6.3 yards per play, but 3 fewer points per game.

Robinson's defenses never gave up more than 5.8 yards per play.

And this was with an elite offense force the opposition to try to score more.

Douche Baggins
11-06-2012, 01:13 PM
This information is now published in a Google Doc.

https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=196iq7PY0mlpsgwh5TTOmN503KImJSZvgcq2jetmkLkw

Sweet Daddy Hate
11-06-2012, 01:20 PM
This information is now published in a Google Doc.

https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=196iq7PY0mlpsgwh5TTOmN503KImJSZvgcq2jetmkLkw

That is so awesome. You sir, are Awesome-O.

bobbything
11-06-2012, 01:21 PM
This defense is giving up 6.3 yards per play.

The 2004 Chiefs gave up 6.3 yards per play, but 3 fewer points per game.

Robinson's defenses never gave up more than 5.8 yards per play.

And this was with an elite offense force the opposition to try to score more.
Robinson's defenses were pretty bad, but this year is another level. At the very least, Robinson's defenses would force an insane amount of turnovers (a byproduct of having an awesome offense, no doubt).

In 2003, we had 25 interceptions and 14 forced fumbles. We gave up a lot of yards, but we turned the ball over a lot.

This turd of a team is on pace for 12 interceptions and 10 forced fumbles; worse than Cunningham's 04 team (which was the worst defensive team I've seen from the Chiefs, until now).

beach tribe
11-06-2012, 01:27 PM
I think it's time to step up the game.

Here's the bottom line for me:

It's not just that they're losing. It's not JUST that they're HISTORICALLY inept.

It's that they're also "my shit don't stink" assholes that treat the fans like sheep and their Patriot Way buddies like kings.

I love football and I love the Kansas City Chiefs. But I'm at the point where I WISH to all that is Holy that I could quit. I would love nothing more at this point than to not care about this team anymore and move on.

That's where I'm at. It just pisses me off to no end.
I also I have to deal with the fact that I thought this team was going to be good, was excited for this season, and expressed that to the Giants/Patriots and Phins fans around me.
I look like/(am) a total ass, and no one knows shit about what's going on with this team outside of Chiefs fans. All they know is that we are indeed one of the worst performing teams in history.
All BS aside. This team IS bad, but is not THIS bad. These players have packed it in, and they did it a long time ago.
Pioli is to blame obviously. I hate him with the fire of 1000 suns at this point, but I'm pissed that it took this shit for me to see the overall level of his fail.

Douche Baggins
11-06-2012, 01:29 PM
It's OK, bro.

We all were homer for this regime at some point.

Maybe next time do a little research.

http://joeboydblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/geicocavemen.jpeg

DJ's left nut
11-06-2012, 01:30 PM
The truly mindboggling thing is this team has a lot of talent.

Winston, Albert, Lilja, Asomoah, Bowe, Breaston, Charles, Hillis, hell even Droghn is talented, and McCluster, if they'd use him isn't terrible.

on the other side, Tamba, Houston, Powe, Flowers DJ, Berry.

All good players. AND they find a way to be the third worst team in the history of the motherfucking league. WHAT THE FUCK.

It's the NFL - every team has at least a little talent.

When you're scraping all the way down to the Lilja's, Breaston's, Asomoah's, and Draughn's of the world, you're really stretching the term.

There are maybe 10 guys on this roster that couldn't be replaced easily every FA period. Bowe, Charles, Albert, Winston, Houston, DJ, Hali, Flowers, Berry, Colquitt. Really, that's about it.

The 'this team has talent' mantra is a myth. This team has a few good players and a bunch of exceptionally replaceable spare parts. If it were well coached, it could be a .500 football team.

Really, apart from the guys that Pioli inherited, Scott Pioli's Chiefs are 22 guys off the street. It's a whole slew of JAGs supplemented by players that Pioli was fortunate enough to get from the prior regime.

Part of me wants him around in 5 years when the guys he got from Herm are done. Then we can see the true depths of his suck.

MOhillbilly
11-06-2012, 01:32 PM
Kill em all!

PGM
11-06-2012, 01:35 PM
No, it doesn't. Alot of those guys are crap. Pure fucking crap. I wanted them to be good but, It's time to start being honest.

It's not all on Cassel, Pioli, and Crennel.

Wow...just wow

Douche Baggins
11-06-2012, 01:37 PM
Asamoah and Hudson are going to be pretty good players IMO.

Maybe Berry if he recovers.

The rest are trash burning in a dumpster fire, apart from perhaps Poe if he develops.

Buehler445
11-06-2012, 01:40 PM
It's the NFL - every team has at least a little talent.

When you're scraping all the way down to the Lilja's, Breaston's, Asomoah's, and Draughn's of the world, you're really stretching the term.

There are maybe 10 guys on this roster that couldn't be replaced easily every FA period. Bowe, Charles, Albert, Winston, Houston, DJ, Hali, Flowers, Berry, Colquitt. Really, that's about it.

The 'this team has talent' mantra is a myth. This team has a few good players and a bunch of exceptionally replaceable spare parts. If it were well coached, it could be a .500 football team.

Really, apart from the guys that Pioli inherited, Scott Pioli's Chiefs are 22 guys off the street. It's a whole slew of JAGs supplemented by players that Pioli was fortunate enough to get from the prior regime.

Part of me wants him around in 5 years when the guys he got from Herm are done. Then we can see the true depths of his suck.

You're probably right. It is just goddamn frustrating because this team isn't this bad.

bowener
11-06-2012, 01:43 PM
Clay, could you please put all the Pioli and Chiefs fail information/evidence into one pdf or .doc file so that I can print it all out, place it in a large envelope, and mail it to 1 arrowhead drive?

If anybody else would like to join me in doing this, perhaps we can coordinate a date to mail it by? I am also open to any ideas on a fitting stamp to place on the envelope... do they still sale reprints of the inverted Jenny? I feel that is a rather apt stamp to use on this organization.

Douche Baggins
11-06-2012, 01:44 PM
Clay, could you please put all the Pioli and Chiefs fail information/evidence into one pdf or .doc file so that I can print it all out, place it in a large envelope, and mail it to 1 arrowhead drive?

If anybody else would like to join me in doing this, perhaps we can coordinate a date to mail it by?

Trust me.

They know.

Sweet Daddy Hate
11-06-2012, 01:46 PM
Asamoah and Hudson are going to be pretty good players IMO.

Maybe Berry if he recovers.

The rest are trash burning in a dumpster fire, apart from perhaps Poe if he develops.

When did Flowers become trash?

DJ's left nut
11-06-2012, 01:48 PM
You're probably right. It is just goddamn frustrating because this team isn't this bad.

Fair statement, this team isn't this bad.

But it certainly isn't good. Getting 10 wins out of them while facing a legitimate NFL schedule would've been a heroic effort.

bowener
11-06-2012, 01:48 PM
If I had ST renewal forms I would stick them in my printer and print Pioli fail facts all across their pages, then mail them back... probably with a big dick drawn on them too.

Sweet Daddy Hate
11-06-2012, 01:49 PM
If I had ST renewal forms I would stick them in my printer and print Pioli fail facts all across their pages, then mail them back... probably with a big dick drawn on them too.

LMAO

bowener
11-06-2012, 01:49 PM
Trust me.

They know.

I know they know, but do they know we know?

bowener
11-06-2012, 01:53 PM
I'm thinking of staying in KC a few nights and going all Shepard Fairey and stenciling a bunch of red and yellow Pioli faces everywhere that read, "FAIL" across the bottom.

mcaj22
11-06-2012, 01:57 PM
You're probably right. It is just goddamn frustrating because this team isn't this bad.

yes it is, when you have depth and foundation pieces and your GM has a massive ego to let guys go for nothing just so he can pick and choose his own positions as many times as he wants eventually means a team will hit rock bottom

the team is losing talent the last 4 years. more talent is walking out the door than there is coming in.

Letting Wade Smith walk so Pioli can draft 45 offensive lineman and waste picks so he can play safe and keep drafting guards every draft

or him drafting 45 TEs until he hits on one or 25 CBs because he lets guys like Carr walk out the door doesnt make the team better. These are downgrades.'

he had a nickel CB he could have groomed in 09
he had a guard he could have kept a 4 year starter
he had a LBer he could have used as a pass rusher
he had the best kicker in the NFL
he had one of the best young CB duos and was a safety upgrade away from one of the best young secondaries

Pioli HAD a lot of things where all he had to do was sit his fat ass in a chair and fart and not **** up. But his massive ego having to constantly add/drop players so he can get a bunch of young yes man guys in the draft, doesnt mean theres any actual NFL talent left on the team

CoMoChief
11-06-2012, 02:04 PM
Given the expectations by many coming into this season with our key players returning, I have to say so far this is the worst team I've ever seen given what was expected.

and it's not even close.

whoman69
11-06-2012, 02:14 PM
Yes it can.

Because Robinson's defense played good teams.

Also, GROB:

2001 - 21.5 PPG allowed
2002 - 24.9 PPG allowed
2003 - 20.8 PPG allowed

2012 - 30.0 PPG allowed

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

This team is giving up 30.0 per game because the offense is giving the other team short field so many times. The defense also knows that once they give up 20 the game is over. The 2002 team actually outscored the opposition despite giving up 399 points. The offense in 2002 gave up the ball only 15 times while we've given it up 29 times in half a season. The Chiefs were outgained that year despite having 6000 yards of offense.

To top it off, the 2004 Chiefs may have even been worse.

Douche Baggins
11-06-2012, 02:20 PM
This team is giving up 30.0 per game because the offense is giving the other team short field so many times. The defense also knows that once they give up 20 the game is over. The 2002 team actually outscored the opposition despite giving up 399 points. The offense in 2002 gave up the ball only 15 times while we've given it up 29 times in half a season. The Chiefs were outgained that year despite having 6000 yards of offense.

To top it off, the 2004 Chiefs may have even been worse.

Sorry, but giving up 6.3 yards per play is abysmal, turnovers or not.

Remember when the D let the Bucs go right down the field to start the second half of that game?

Remember when they got crushed by the Raiders when we got within striking distance?

Last week against San Diego, it's 10-6, and the defense lays down and it's 17-6.

This is a god damn terrible defense. The only team allowing more yards per play this year is the Saints.

DTHOF
11-06-2012, 02:43 PM
I didn't need to see all of those numbers, as I posted last week this was the worst team I have ever seen take the field for the Chiefs in 43 years of fandom.

Watching them has now become more of a curiosity, similar to gawking at a 11 car pile up in the opposing lanes of traffic.

You slow down to look, then you move on, thanking God it wasn't you.

My rival fan friends feel sorry for me, and show pity.

That is the worst part. No one hates us anymore because they are too busy feeling sorry for us. Raider fans don't even make the effort anymore except for the occasional troll.

aturnis
11-06-2012, 07:59 PM
I just watch in order to be sure they lost. I want to see it for myself. I couldn't stand them fucking it up for us and winning one or a few...

In the process of this abysmal season, I've become a huge fan of Jacksonville, Cleveland, and Carolina.

Saccopoo
11-06-2012, 11:04 PM
Asamoah and Hudson are going to be pretty good players IMO.

Maybe Berry if he recovers.

The rest are trash burning in a dumpster fire, apart from perhaps Poe if he develops.

Are we talking in terms of Pioli guys?

If so, from top to bottom, IMO:

Houston
Hudson
Succop
Berry
Powe
Poe

The rest at this point are meh.

Saccopoo
11-06-2012, 11:07 PM
I just watch in order to be sure they lost. I want to see it for myself. I couldn't stand them ****ing it up for us and winning one or a few...

In the process of this abysmal season, I've become a huge fan of Jacksonville, Cleveland, and Carolina.

http://tvrecappersanonymous.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/finn-head-nod.gif

Sorter
11-06-2012, 11:09 PM
I just watch in order to be sure they lost. I want to see it for myself. I couldn't stand them ****ing it up for us and winning one or a few...

In the process of this abysmal season, I've become a huge fan of Jacksonville, Cleveland, and Carolina.

http://i.imgur.com/e7IWl.gif

Douche Baggins
11-07-2012, 12:50 AM
An addendum to this:

The 2010 Chiefs faced the weakest schedule in franchise history.

Sweet Daddy Hate
11-09-2012, 07:47 AM
Wow.

FAILoli.

FringeNC
11-09-2012, 08:12 AM
An addendum to this:

The 2010 Chiefs faced the weakest schedule in franchise history.

I'm pretty sure that's factored into the ratings.

Douche Baggins
11-09-2012, 08:18 AM
I'm pretty sure that's factored into the ratings.

That was factored into the 2010 rating for sure...which is why a winning team had a -0.7 rating on the SRS.

Douche Baggins
11-09-2012, 08:20 AM
Ah, damn.

Our SRS rating has gone up to -14.8 because of last night's game.

COME ON STEELERS

AND ALL OF OUR PAST AND FUTURE OPPONENTS LOSING THIS WEEKEND

WhiteWhale
11-09-2012, 08:41 AM
Yeah, I know.

Scott Pioli just spent 4 years building one of the worst teams in NFL history. That's the fruit he's grown here.

Of course, I don't think there's any chance he keeps his job after this disaster.

lcarus
11-09-2012, 08:46 AM
IT'S ONLY THE PRESEASON. JFC these games don't matter!

Shit the starters played their best ball in the very first preseason game lol. I was all "Super Bowl!" after that game. I'm dumb like that...

lcarus
11-09-2012, 08:47 AM
How does GoChiefs still have a negative rep with gems like this?

Douche Baggins
11-09-2012, 08:51 AM
saveourclayfrommods.com

Douche Baggins
11-14-2012, 03:37 AM
Well, shit.

The dream appears to be dead at this junction.

Our performance against Pittsburgh now slots us at -13.0.

Still the worst team in Chiefs history, but not even close to being one of the worst ever.

Go Bengals.

Rausch
11-14-2012, 03:41 AM
Go Bengals.

Fuck you.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4hvbrZAIh1qh6xz5.gif

Go Bengals...

Sweet Daddy Hate
11-14-2012, 01:39 PM
Go Bengals.

bowener
11-14-2012, 10:29 PM
Well, shit.

The dream appears to be dead at this junction.

Our performance against Pittsburgh now slots us at -13.0.

Still the worst team in Chiefs history, but not even close to being one of the worst ever.

Go Bengals.

Even if we lose out? What is the best guesstimate on our place in history if that occurs?

Douche Baggins
11-14-2012, 10:34 PM
Even if we lose out? What is the best guesstimate on our place in history if that occurs?

Impossible to say.

Blowouts do more to increase our negative rating more than anything. That's the key.

We need to get blown out by a couple crappy teams to end this year.

Douche Baggins
11-19-2012, 04:24 PM
We're back down to -14.0.

Every blowout helps.

KCtotheSB
11-19-2012, 04:50 PM
Impossible to say.

Blowouts do more to increase our negative rating more than anything. That's the key.

We need to get blown out by a couple crappy teams to end this year.

We can do this!

Sweet Daddy Hate
11-22-2012, 09:14 AM
We're back down to -14.0.

Every blowout helps.

W00T! LMAO

Douche Baggins
11-26-2012, 01:35 PM
FUCK!

Our SRS is at -12.8 now after a competitive game.

Dream is dying...

BCD
11-26-2012, 01:37 PM
So what?

Do you really think Clark reads this shit?

Douche Baggins
11-26-2012, 01:39 PM
However, 10 more points and we get a consolation prize.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8p5KgwCUAAdZ0M.jpg:large

KCHawg
11-26-2012, 02:00 PM
LMAO

You're the biggest goddamned retard on this board.

And with the level of retard we have had on this board, you are approaching 2012 Chiefs level...:thumb:

Baby Lee
11-26-2012, 04:01 PM
I think it's time to step up the game.

Here's the bottom line for me:

It's not just that they're losing. It's not JUST that they're HISTORICALLY inept.

It's that they're also "my shit don't stink" assholes that treat the fans like sheep and their Patriot Way buddies like kings.

I love football and I love the Kansas City Chiefs. But I'm at the point where I WISH to all that is Holy that I could quit. I would love nothing more at this point than to not care about this team anymore and move on.

The only thing that bothered me about last Sunday's game was that there wasn't the comedic value of a Cassel game. Nary an upright was struck. Nary a flea flicker was batted down by a D-Lineman. Even the dick in the dirt aborted screen pass seemed derivative of Cassel's earlier work.

OnTheWarpath58
11-26-2012, 04:06 PM
The only thing that bothered me about last Sunday's game was that there wasn't the comedic value of a Cassel game. Nary an upright was struck. Nary a flea flicker was batted down by a D-Lineman. Even the dick in the dirt aborted screen pass seemed derivative of Cassel's earlier work.

Have you forgotten about the Hillis to Quinn halfback throwback?

On 3rd and 3, when we'd been running the ball down their throats?

Or perhaps I can interest you in a timeout being called on 4th down, only to see the Chiefs punt the ball away?

Ace Gunner
11-26-2012, 04:22 PM
****!

Our SRS is at -12.8 now after a competitive game.

Dream is dying...

toldja that 2008 team was fucking horrible

Douche Baggins
11-26-2012, 04:24 PM
What does that have to do with anything? The 2012 team is still 4.8 SRS points worse.

Ace Gunner
11-26-2012, 04:28 PM
ya but that 08 team was just bad man. the only reason they weren't record breaking horrible is because TG got everybody thinking Tyler Thigpen could make some noise. otherwise, that team was twice as bad as this one is, it's just that this staff is ****ing lame. the QB's aren't different, just shades of poop.

Ace Gunner
11-26-2012, 04:31 PM
one thing is for sure -- Brian Daboll is not going to get another OC job in the NFL hahahaha now way.

Douche Baggins
11-26-2012, 04:36 PM
ya but that 08 team was just bad man. the only reason they weren't record breaking horrible is because TG got everybody thinking Tyler Thigpen could make some noise. otherwise, that team was twice as bad as this one is, it's just that this staff is ****ing lame. the QB's aren't different, just shades of poop.

Disagree. This team is slightly more talented, but not by much.

And Thigpen is a better QB than Quinn by far.

Ace Gunner
11-26-2012, 05:18 PM
Disagree. This team is slightly more talented, but not by much.

And Thigpen is a better QB than Quinn by far.

they are, young but more talent than that 08 team. Thigs better? well, I'll let that slide:D

Three7s
11-26-2012, 06:26 PM
they are, young but more talent than that 08 team. Thigs better? well, I'll let that slide:D
Has Quinn ever thrown 20 TD passes in a season? Thigpen did.

Douche Baggins
12-03-2012, 08:18 PM
Well, shit.

With that win we're at -11.3.

Still shitty but the dream appears dead.

Still the worst team in franchise history.

ChiefsNow
12-03-2012, 08:26 PM
I miss the kicker that shall not be named.

KCrockaholic
12-03-2012, 08:38 PM
Well that sucks. Lets just pray for 2-14. I'm glad they won this game without hurting draft position, but it's time to get serious on the goal at hand.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-04-2012, 01:32 PM
We FAIL at FAIL.

Welcome to KC!