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Dave Lane
11-06-2012, 09:30 AM
This election season there's a billowing cloud of misinformation being sprayed into the American psyche like a burping tail pipe on a primered Vega.

And its smoke is thicker and blacker than ever before thanks to the Citizen's United Supreme Court decision.

Billions have been spent for one purpose and one purpose only: to obscure and distract from the fact that Mitt Romney is backing the identical agenda George W Bush did.

It's really and truly that simple.

Lower taxes for the rich, cutting regulations for Wall Street, hawkish foreign policy with in many cases the same neocon foreign policy advisers W. Bush used make Romney/Ryan "W Bush 2: The Sequel to the Greatest Disaster Movie in Recent U.S. History, Available in Imax."

So please, America, don't fall for this con all over again. Taxes for the rich are at record lows. The uber-wealthy and corps hide profits overseas and work the loopholes to avoid paying what they should. And because of the resulting tax shortfall, deficits soar and education and infrastructure are cut. Why in God's name would anyone in their right mind support cutting taxes for the wealthy more? Especially when it's been proven over and over again to do very little for the economy?

And the idea of cutting regulations for Wall Street after the '08 collapse is as crazy as a guy in a hospital gown by the side of a highway waving Barbie dolls at passing cars. With the derivitives market larger than ever we need way more regulation of Wall Street, not less. And worst of all, Romney's hawkish foreign policy is a beat for beat redux of the Bush doctrine of attack at the slightest hint of threat that led us into the disaster of the Iraq war. Call it "the edgy drifter with a knife" policy.

Voting for Romney after the train wreck of that was the eight years of W. Bush is like losing your pay check playing a rigged game of three-card monte and then playing the same game again a week later cause the cards are a different color.

But Obama is a socialist! He's made things worse! What about the deficit?! Stop your witchy liberal word spells!

These objections to Obama are nonsense and lies at best. They just are. This isn't a "liberal" POV. It's just the truth. Obama does have real failings as a president (illegal drone strikes, a baffling desire to make more trade deals, failure to prosecute past war crimes), but being a socialist big spender is not remotely one of them. The stock market and corporate profits have soared under the Obama administration. And the deficit is 60 percent from tax short falls from the '08 collapse and 20 percent from the Iraq war finally being properly counted. Only $1 trillion of the $5 trillion deficit is from spending that was for the stimulus package that stopped our nation from falling into a depression by any economic metric available. The fact is Obama has spent less than any president in 50 years.

Even Obamacare is a private mandate that will drive billions to the insurance industry, much like the auto insurance mandate. Hardly socialism. In fact, it was a Republican plan to begin with.

But Romney and his billionaire backers have twisted facts and outright lied like we've never seen before. And why? Because if they had to stand on the issues they wouldn't receive a vote. Because Romney and Ryan are exactly on the same page as W. Bush. And that page is stained with champagne and sturgeon eggs.

If Romney wins it will be because voters voted for the lies and the brand ID of the Republican party, not because of facts, context and reality. This is the essence of how a con works. The con man gets the mark to respond emotionally rather than logically. Please, don't fall for it. With climate change becoming the biggest challenge of the next hundred years we can't afford four years more of corruption, misinformation and inaction. We just can't.

We must give up on this blind brand allegiance nonsense -- "the Republican party is for self-reliance and America" -- and start looking at the reality of what they do. They ignored warnings on 9/11, making us far less safe, give billions in subsidies to oil companies, no-bid contracts to the former vice president's company, cut taxes for the rich during a war, stand against equal pay for women, froze the budget to drive our AAA rating down. They are corrupt, for the rich getting richer and for dismantling our government including FEMA, Medicare, and Social Security.

And worst of all, the Republicans do everything they can to make it hard for people to vote. This isn't just creepy and dirty. This is anti-American and an insult to all those that have given their lives for our right to vote.

At a certain point if you're voting for Romney you have to look around the room and see who you're with. W, Bush and Cheney will vote for Romney. Sarah Palin will vote for Romney. Glenn Beck will vote for Romney, as will Rush Limbaugh. Rupert Murdoch, Hannity and Donald Trump are voting for Romney. Have these people been right about anything in the past 20 years? For real. Think about it.

This election needs to be the end of the con. The end of "trickle-down economics." The end of the loopholes. The end of no rules for the rich and powerful. The end of veiled racism, sexism and homophobia as a way to distract those you're ripping off.

This era of "relative truth" can end. We can return to science, facts and fairness. But it means stopping this right vs. left, Dem. vs. Repub., North vs. South idiocy. A lot of money was spent to divide us like this and every day that we don't stop and question the messaging this country slips a notch.

We've been having the same argument for 30 years and the evidence is clear: Cutting taxes for the rich, deregulating all the rules set up after the Great Depression and needless wars don't even remotely work, whether it's George W. Bush or Romney who's at the wheel of the belching sputtering Vega.

Seriously, America. Take a beat, think and look hard at the numbers. You're better than this crap. And we've got real stuff to work on together.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-mckay/romney-obama-election-2012_b_2080326.html

ROYC75
11-06-2012, 09:33 AM
HufPo ?

LOL,

OK ROFL

fan4ever
11-06-2012, 09:42 AM
And voting for Obama wouldn't be "falling for the same sh*t" again?

Brainiac
11-06-2012, 09:56 AM
Obama does have real failings as a president (illegal drone strikes, a baffling desire to make more trade deals, failure to prosecute past war crimes)
The only criticism the author has for Obama is that he's not liberal enough. So much for the author having any credibility whatsoever.

The fact is Obama has spent less than any president in 50 years.

The tortured logic of Obots: Trillion dollar deficits, yet Obama spends "less" than any president in 50 years.

Come on Dave, you're smarter than this. This is a ridiculous article.

petegz28
11-06-2012, 09:58 AM
Yes, pleae do not fall for the "Hope and change" bullshit again.

InChiefsHell
11-06-2012, 09:59 AM
And voting for Obama wouldn't be "falling for the same sh*t" again?

I know right? Somehow, this fucker has people convinced that he wasn't president the last 4 years and that somehow he's bringing a fresh new perspective to the White House...

LVNHACK
11-06-2012, 10:03 AM
I never knew cosmo was a writer....

Dave Lane
11-06-2012, 10:04 AM
The only criticism the author has for Obama is that he's not liberal enough. So much for the author having any credibility whatsoever.


The tortured logic of Obots: Trillion dollar deficits, yet Obama spends "less" than any president in 50 years.

Come on Dave, you're smarter than this. This is a ridiculous article.

I didn't write it, just posted it as a different view to the cacophony of Obama sucks because of ________ posts.

The Rick
11-06-2012, 10:07 AM
I'd rather take my chances with an unscratched lottery ticket then a scratched one that I know isn't a winner.

Direckshun
11-06-2012, 10:08 AM
America didn't fall for it in 2008, they won't fall for it this year.

Should Obama emerge victorious tonight, as he most likely will, the Republican Party will only have won the popular vote in a POTUS election once since 1992.

All coincidence, I'm sure.

Bowser
11-06-2012, 10:15 AM
I can't remember an election where both sides were so absolutley sure victory was theirs.

Radar Chief
11-06-2012, 10:28 AM
I can't remember an election where both sides were so absolutley sure victory was theirs.

Bush/Gore.

BigMeatballDave
11-06-2012, 11:00 AM
So, we should fall for another 5 trillion in debt the next 4 yrs?

L.A. Chieffan
11-06-2012, 11:02 AM
America is pretty dumb. Just sayin

BigCatDaddy
11-06-2012, 11:03 AM
America is pretty dumb. Just sayin

QFT

ROYC75
11-06-2012, 11:04 AM
http://a57.foxnews.com/www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/0/0/110612_obamamural_20121106_113137.jpg

La literatura
11-06-2012, 11:05 AM
America is pretty dumb. Just sayin

Speak for you're self!

BigMeatballDave
11-06-2012, 11:11 AM
I have lost 2 jobs during Obama's administration.

Which way do you think I'm leaning?

Bowser
11-06-2012, 11:13 AM
Roy, wtf are you talking about?

InChiefsHell
11-06-2012, 11:28 AM
http://a57.foxnews.com/www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/0/0/110612_obamamural_20121106_113137.jpg

Holy shit.

BucEyedPea
11-06-2012, 11:34 AM
This election season there's a billowing cloud of misinformation being sprayed into the American psyche like a burping tail pipe on a primered Vega.

And its smoke is thicker and blacker than ever before thanks to the Citizen's United Supreme Court decision.

Billions have been spent for one purpose and one purpose only: to obscure and distract from the fact that Mitt Romney is backing the identical agenda George W Bush did.


As is Obama. Both sides are sheep. Yet, think they offer change because they're different. The simplicity is that they are not.

Donger
11-06-2012, 11:35 AM
http://a57.foxnews.com/www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/0/0/110612_obamamural_20121106_113137.jpg

That's fake, right?

Calcountry
11-06-2012, 11:47 AM
The only criticism the author has for Obama is that he's not liberal enough. So much for the author having any credibility whatsoever.


The tortured logic of Obots: Trillion dollar deficits, yet Obama spends "less" than any president in 50 years.

Come on Dave, you're smarter than this. This is a ridiculous article.I actually heard Rachael Mad#### say that Obama, in a litany of accomplishments she was touting, HAD IN FACT, cut the deficit. I had a guttural noise come out of my gut as I reached for the remote to back it up and hear it again, but there it was.

Calcountry
11-06-2012, 11:48 AM
http://a57.foxnews.com/www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/0/0/110612_obamamural_20121106_113137.jpgFunny, the mural didn't say "Forward".

BucEyedPea
11-06-2012, 11:51 AM
The only criticism the author has for Obama is that he's not liberal enough. So much for the author having any credibility whatsoever.


The tortured logic of Obots: Trillion dollar deficits, yet Obama spends "less" than any president in 50 years.

Come on Dave, you're smarter than this. This is a ridiculous article.

Actually, the tortured logic is that the House is responsible for spending—not a president.
Who controls Congress?

You could make this claim in Obama's first two years — but not the past two.

ROYC75
11-06-2012, 12:09 PM
That's fake, right?

Nope.

CoMoChief
11-06-2012, 12:11 PM
Extended the Patriot Act
Signed NDAA after saying he wouldn't
Libya
Syria
Bailing out private companies on tax dollars
Govt ran HC
Gun grab
Internet kill switch legislation



All reasons not to vote for Obama

ROYC75
11-06-2012, 12:12 PM
Roy, wtf are you talking about?

Not only do you have this ( Obama pic on the wall ) at one place of polling you have voter suppressing at others in Philly, yes even your black panther party again.

http://a57.foxnews.com/www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/0/0/110612_obamamural_20121106_113137.jpg

BIG_DADDY
11-06-2012, 12:13 PM
I don't care who you vote for as long as it is not Obama. Rewarding the most fiscally irresponsible president in our history at a time of financial crisis is beyond stupid.

ROYC75
11-06-2012, 12:13 PM
Funny, the mural didn't say "Forward".

That has been in that school for sometime too .

Nothing like drilling an image in the kids minds.

BucEyedPea
11-06-2012, 12:15 PM
I don't care who you vote for as long as it is not Obama. Rewarding the most fiscally irresponsible president in our history at a time of financial crisis is beyond stupid.

Congress controls the spending. That applies for Obama's first two years though.

Detoxing
11-06-2012, 12:16 PM
That's fake, right?

Looks fake to me.

InChiefsHell
11-06-2012, 12:16 PM
That has been in that school for sometime too .

Nothing like drilling an image in the kids minds.

Indeed. At least make it a past president, not the current guy in office. Jeez.

Detoxing
11-06-2012, 12:18 PM
So is there proof that this image is real? It looks like a photoshop.

Detoxing
11-06-2012, 12:20 PM
So is there proof that this image is real? It looks like a photoshop.

Nvm, it's real. But doesnt tell the whole story.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2012/11/06/judge-orders-obama-mural-at-philly-polling-place-covered/

Judge Orders Obama Mural At Philly Polling Place Covered

The Daily Caller just reported that a Philadelphia polling place featured a mural of President Obama directly behind the voting booths.


The Obama Mural in a Philadelphia Polling Place IMAGE CREDIT: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/06/photo-shows-obama-mural-at-philadelphia-poll/

In response a judge ordered election officials immediately cover the mural. An image of the order and its text appears below.

ORDER

AND NOW, this 6th day of November, 2012, upon the oral petition of Linda A. Kerns, Esquire, on behalf of the Pennsylvania State Republican Committee, and the response of Adam Bonin, Esquire, on behalf of the Democratic City Committee of Philadelphia, and after agreement of counsel,

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED

That the Judge of Election in the 35th Ward, 18th Division shall cover the mural, attached as Exhibit A, in its entirety for the duration of the election on November 6, 2012.

Signed: John Milton Younge, Jr.

Bob Dole
11-06-2012, 12:30 PM
Not only do you have this ( Obama pic on the wall ) at one place of polling you have voter suppressing at others in Philly, yes even your black panther party again.

http://a57.foxnews.com/www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/0/0/110612_obamamural_20121106_113137.jpg

Electioneering at its finest.

Wonder how many people got to vote at one of the schools named after him?

Donger
11-06-2012, 12:34 PM
Nvm, it's real. But doesnt tell the whole story.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2012/11/06/judge-orders-obama-mural-at-philly-polling-place-covered/

Judge Orders Obama Mural At Philly Polling Place Covered

The Daily Caller just reported that a Philadelphia polling place featured a mural of President Obama directly behind the voting booths.


The Obama Mural in a Philadelphia Polling Place IMAGE CREDIT: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/06/photo-shows-obama-mural-at-philadelphia-poll/

In response a judge ordered election officials immediately cover the mural. An image of the order and its text appears below.

ORDER

AND NOW, this 6th day of November, 2012, upon the oral petition of Linda A. Kerns, Esquire, on behalf of the Pennsylvania State Republican Committee, and the response of Adam Bonin, Esquire, on behalf of the Democratic City Committee of Philadelphia, and after agreement of counsel,

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED

That the Judge of Election in the 35th Ward, 18th Division shall cover the mural, attached as Exhibit A, in its entirety for the duration of the election on November 6, 2012.

Signed: John Milton Younge, Jr.

Good. Now I wonder if they'll make the prick handing out ballots in Chicago take off his fucking Obama baseball hat.

Fish
11-06-2012, 12:40 PM
Good. Now I wonder if they'll make the prick handing out ballots in Chicago take off his fucking Obama baseball hat.

I too am outraged. How dare he wear an Obama hat. Just think of all the people he's influencing, stealing Republicans votes with his stupid magical hat.

Donger
11-06-2012, 12:41 PM
I too am outraged. How dare he wear an Obama hat. Just think of all the people he's influencing, stealing Republicans votes with his stupid magical hat.

It's illegal.

Fish
11-06-2012, 12:44 PM
It's illegal.

He should be shot on the spot.

Donger
11-06-2012, 12:46 PM
He should be shot on the spot.

No. As a fucking election official should know the law. And he should remove his hat.

L.A. Chieffan
11-06-2012, 12:47 PM
I guess Hannity tweeted a pic of his completed ballot. Apparently that's illegal too.

HonestChieffan
11-06-2012, 12:55 PM
Fraud and law breaking is approved if done in support of Obama.

Thank you,

Valerie Jarret

InChiefsHell
11-06-2012, 01:25 PM
I guess Hannity tweeted a pic of his completed ballot. Apparently that's illegal too.

That is total BS if true. I suppose everyone knows who he's voting for president, but what about all the other items on the ballot?

Fuggin people think they are so damn important.

vailpass
11-06-2012, 01:27 PM
He should be shot on the spot.

I'm good with that. For a smart guy you are being pretty obtuse on this one.

Johnny Vegas
11-06-2012, 01:38 PM
That is total BS if true. I suppose everyone knows who he's voting for president, but what about all the other items on the ballot?

Fuggin people think they are so damn important.

it is illegal to post a pic of your ballot. The charge is something along the lines of selling your vote. Its a felony and you can get slapped with a $10,000 fine and 1 1/2 in jail.

cosmo20002
11-06-2012, 01:38 PM
I have lost 2 jobs during Obama's administration.

Which way do you think I'm leaning?

Hopefully somewhere to improve your employment skills.

cosmo20002
11-06-2012, 01:40 PM
That has been in that school for sometime too .

Nothing like drilling an image in the kids minds.

They do tend to teach stuff. Like who the president is.

Direckshun
11-06-2012, 01:44 PM
So we're not okay with huge murals of Obama, but we're totally fine with Jesus Christ being all over the place.

cosmo20002
11-06-2012, 01:44 PM
it is illegal to post a pic of your ballot. The charge is something along the lines of selling your vote. Its a felony and you can get slapped with a $10,000 fine and 1 1/2 in jail.

I assume that is a state law that might vary from state to state. I'd be surprised if there have many successful prosecutions.

cosmo20002
11-06-2012, 01:46 PM
So we're not okay with huge murals of Obama, but we're totally fine with Jesus Christ being all over the place.

Obama is known as The Messiah.

Johnny Vegas
11-06-2012, 01:47 PM
I assume that is a state law that might vary from state to state. I'd be surprised if there have many successful prosecutions.

No its nation wide. It is true that little get prosecuted for it though.

stevieray
11-06-2012, 01:47 PM
So we're not okay with huge murals of Obama, but we're totally fine with Jesus Christ being all over the place.

totally logical comparison.

Radar Chief
11-06-2012, 01:48 PM
Obama is known as The Messiah.

To you true believers at least.

Donger
11-06-2012, 01:51 PM
So we're not okay with huge murals of Obama, but we're totally fine with Jesus Christ being all over the place.

Is He on the ballot?

BigMeatballDave
11-06-2012, 01:51 PM
Is He on the ballot?

LMAO

BigMeatballDave
11-06-2012, 01:54 PM
Hopefully somewhere to improve your employment skills.

Go fuck yourself.

Both were layoffs and had everything to do with the company and nothing to do with me.

Dave Lane
11-06-2012, 01:57 PM
Holy shit.

Yeah and I voted in a church full of pictures of the pope and signs for voting to end abortions.

Same deal.

cosmo20002
11-06-2012, 01:58 PM
No its nation wide. It is true that little get prosecuted for it though.

It is not nationwide. Differs among states.

Apparently, in Arkansas it is illegal to TELL anyone who you voted for until the polls close. Good luck ever getting a conviction on that.

Radar Chief
11-06-2012, 01:58 PM
Yeah and I voted in a church full of pictures of the pope and signs for voting to end abortions.

Same deal.

I voted in a church and didn’t see anything like that.

Fish
11-06-2012, 02:00 PM
I'm good with that. For a smart guy you are being pretty obtuse on this one.

Not sure what you mean. We both agree that the guy should burn in the fiery pits of Christian hell for this injustice.

stevieray
11-06-2012, 02:00 PM
I voted in a church and didn’t see anything like that.

source, consider the.

cosmo20002
11-06-2012, 02:02 PM
Go **** yourself.

Both were layoffs and had everything to do with the company and nothing to do with me.

Oh, because you implied it might have everything to do with Obama.

Look, when you post something like that with such direct blame to a politican for your individual circumstances, you're kind of asking for a smart-ass remark. Sincerely though, hope things improve.

listopencil
11-06-2012, 02:29 PM
That's funny. I thought by the thread title that you were going to post about why voting for Obama would be a bad idea.

listopencil
11-06-2012, 02:35 PM
I voted in a church and didn’t see anything like that.

I voted at a Holiday Inn. So does that mean I was influenced by Big Business, shitty hotel food or that hot chick with the great ass standing to my left? Hint: It was the ass. And I'm not referring to a picture of Obama.

vailpass
11-06-2012, 02:35 PM
Oh, because you implied it might have everything to do with Obama.

Look, when you post something like that with such direct blame to a politican for your individual circumstances, you're kind of asking for a smart-ass remark. Sincerely though, hope things improve.


Is this the kind of love they teach you at the welfare station? You kickin' that DES wisdom?

mlyonsd
11-06-2012, 02:50 PM
So we're not okay with huge murals of Obama, but we're totally fine with Jesus Christ being all over the place.

You must be in the victory bottle already.

vailpass
11-06-2012, 02:51 PM
So we're not okay with huge murals of Obama, but we're totally fine with Jesus Christ being all over the place.

:spock:

vailpass
11-06-2012, 02:52 PM
Obama is known as The Messiah.

Never heard him called that though I've heard other names for him.

L.A. Chieffan
11-06-2012, 02:54 PM
Direkshun is starting to lose it.

KCFaninSEA
11-06-2012, 03:02 PM
Let me preface by saying I think all politicians are crooks, even Nixon!!!! ROFL With that being said I think most rational people could agree that the best economic times in our lifetime (depending on your age of course) was when Clinton was in office. His administration started with the country in a deficit and was at a nice surplus when he left. Everybody was making money if he/she invested appropriately and worked hard. Wages were up for the middle class while the upper class was also doing well. What changed was that CEO's and the 1% wanted more. They asked themselves what do we have to do to get more? The answer was to put politicians in place who could create policies to put more into their pockets. How do we do that they would ask? We will need to spend some to make even more, is what they said. By spending they meant donate it to the politicians we can buy who will help further our agendas. Such as allow super PAC's so as much money that can be gathered can go to our candidates, take away baragining rights so the 99% can not be organized against us and make sure we can get away with paying less of a % of taxes than the majority of citizens and when that happens you can get some of what you spent back!!!! We can also keep corporate taxes down so when we can ship jobs to China and put hard working Americans out of work we won't have to pay fees to move that work. When the work gets to China we can pay them $0.99 per hour instead of $20.00 per hour with a retirement and medical like we do here in America.

People, the list goes on and on. As I stated, they are all crooks but unless you are one of the 1% the Republicans are not your friend. These elections are not about you and me. They are about economics, ego and control. The 1% will never be satisfied with making millions of dollars. They want to keep it from everybody else so they are not comprimised. They do not want you any more successfull than we are today because the more that are wealthy takes away from their control. Without, what is their idea of control, their ego is gone and they, in their minds, are less than. They will do everything to keep that control.

When less people are working, for less money, as in todays society there is less going back into the state and federal governments. That is no secret but to say we need more jobs is a blind statement that needs more depth. Allowing jobs to be sent overseas, allowing the 1% to hide money overseas, allowing a much greater flow of goods to come into our country than what goes out, is a travesty. Craeting part time work or jopbs that are at minimum wage does not cut it. We need family wage jobs and every company out there is looking for a way to send that work someplace where it can be done for cheaper. Let's face it, buying a Nissan in America is B.S. Buy Chevy, Ford or anything but quit buying this crap from overseas. We are Americans and we do not support Americans, but we should. The rest of the world laughs at us. Much of what we earn goes somewhere else. We, as a society do not reinvest in our own society like we should. I do not believe the Republican party wants anything to do with keeping jobs in America. They are more about making money for the rich than for making sure we all can prosper.

When Mr. Ropmney spoke at one of the debates he said that small business need tax breaks so they can hire more people. I do not believe that is what happens. The small business owners stash that money away for themselves and ask their employees to work longer hours if it starts getting busier. Then they come out and say we can't afford pay increases and ask you for a pay cut and then say that you should feel lucky to have a job! That is such B.S. it makes me sick.

Has Mr. Obama been a great president? No, I do not believe so, but I also know that if the Senate and House would actually work together as they did during the Clinton administration, this country could get back to what it once was. Mr. Obama could have accomplished more. He is being held back by the right not wanting to give an inch and we are all suffering because of it. Think about that. If the right is causing this stalemate then why would anybody want to vote for anyone in that party? Their way or the highway. That is not what this country was built on. It was built by people having different views and working together to come to a compromise to better the citizens of this country. That is not what is happening today. I am sorry to say that I do not believe Mr. Romney is in this for me or my family, he is in it for Donald Trump and those types of families. They contribute huge amounts of money for Mr. Romney's ego and control.

blaise
11-06-2012, 03:04 PM
So we're not okay with huge murals of Obama, but we're totally fine with Jesus Christ being all over the place.

You are?

blaise
11-06-2012, 03:06 PM
I'm guessing the original post was written by some actor or actress.

Der Flöprer
11-06-2012, 03:11 PM
America is pretty dumb. Just sayin

It's incredible how dumbed down this society is. Brainwashed, and easily played. Yeah, America is pretty fuckin dumb. They fall for the same old shit over, and over, and over again. Tonight, we do it again. Whoever wins.

TribalElder
11-06-2012, 03:21 PM
Your vote does not really matter does it? There is no validation process for ensuring that your picks were counted correctly. The entire system is controlled by the counters. Remember what happened to gore in Florida? If you think your vote truly counts that's great. Voting just makes people feel good like their voice was heard but the voting process along with congress do not have our best interests in mind.

Thank god this shit is almost over. No matter who you chose this time, we all lose

ChiefaRoo
11-06-2012, 03:37 PM
This election season there's a billowing cloud of misinformation being sprayed into the American psyche like a burping tail pipe on a primered Vega.

And its smoke is thicker and blacker than ever before thanks to the Citizen's United Supreme Court decision.

Billions have been spent for one purpose and one purpose only: to obscure and distract from the fact that Mitt Romney is backing the identical agenda George W Bush did.

It's really and truly that simple.

Lower taxes for the rich, cutting regulations for Wall Street, hawkish foreign policy with in many cases the same neocon foreign policy advisers W. Bush used make Romney/Ryan "W Bush 2: The Sequel to the Greatest Disaster Movie in Recent U.S. History, Available in Imax."

So please, America, don't fall for this con all over again. Taxes for the rich are at record lows. The uber-wealthy and corps hide profits overseas and work the loopholes to avoid paying what they should. And because of the resulting tax shortfall, deficits soar and education and infrastructure are cut. Why in God's name would anyone in their right mind support cutting taxes for the wealthy more? Especially when it's been proven over and over again to do very little for the economy?

And the idea of cutting regulations for Wall Street after the '08 collapse is as crazy as a guy in a hospital gown by the side of a highway waving Barbie dolls at passing cars. With the derivitives market larger than ever we need way more regulation of Wall Street, not less. And worst of all, Romney's hawkish foreign policy is a beat for beat redux of the Bush doctrine of attack at the slightest hint of threat that led us into the disaster of the Iraq war. Call it "the edgy drifter with a knife" policy.

Voting for Romney after the train wreck of that was the eight years of W. Bush is like losing your pay check playing a rigged game of three-card monte and then playing the same game again a week later cause the cards are a different color.

But Obama is a socialist! He's made things worse! What about the deficit?! Stop your witchy liberal word spells!

These objections to Obama are nonsense and lies at best. They just are. This isn't a "liberal" POV. It's just the truth. Obama does have real failings as a president (illegal drone strikes, a baffling desire to make more trade deals, failure to prosecute past war crimes), but being a socialist big spender is not remotely one of them. The stock market and corporate profits have soared under the Obama administration. And the deficit is 60 percent from tax short falls from the '08 collapse and 20 percent from the Iraq war finally being properly counted. Only $1 trillion of the $5 trillion deficit is from spending that was for the stimulus package that stopped our nation from falling into a depression by any economic metric available. The fact is Obama has spent less than any president in 50 years.

Even Obamacare is a private mandate that will drive billions to the insurance industry, much like the auto insurance mandate. Hardly socialism. In fact, it was a Republican plan to begin with.

But Romney and his billionaire backers have twisted facts and outright lied like we've never seen before. And why? Because if they had to stand on the issues they wouldn't receive a vote. Because Romney and Ryan are exactly on the same page as W. Bush. And that page is stained with champagne and sturgeon eggs.

If Romney wins it will be because voters voted for the lies and the brand ID of the Republican party, not because of facts, context and reality. This is the essence of how a con works. The con man gets the mark to respond emotionally rather than logically. Please, don't fall for it. With climate change becoming the biggest challenge of the next hundred years we can't afford four years more of corruption, misinformation and inaction. We just can't.

We must give up on this blind brand allegiance nonsense -- "the Republican party is for self-reliance and America" -- and start looking at the reality of what they do. They ignored warnings on 9/11, making us far less safe, give billions in subsidies to oil companies, no-bid contracts to the former vice president's company, cut taxes for the rich during a war, stand against equal pay for women, froze the budget to drive our AAA rating down. They are corrupt, for the rich getting richer and for dismantling our government including FEMA, Medicare, and Social Security.

And worst of all, the Republicans do everything they can to make it hard for people to vote. This isn't just creepy and dirty. This is anti-American and an insult to all those that have given their lives for our right to vote.

At a certain point if you're voting for Romney you have to look around the room and see who you're with. W, Bush and Cheney will vote for Romney. Sarah Palin will vote for Romney. Glenn Beck will vote for Romney, as will Rush Limbaugh. Rupert Murdoch, Hannity and Donald Trump are voting for Romney. Have these people been right about anything in the past 20 years? For real. Think about it.

This election needs to be the end of the con. The end of "trickle-down economics." The end of the loopholes. The end of no rules for the rich and powerful. The end of veiled racism, sexism and homophobia as a way to distract those you're ripping off.

This era of "relative truth" can end. We can return to science, facts and fairness. But it means stopping this right vs. left, Dem. vs. Repub., North vs. South idiocy. A lot of money was spent to divide us like this and every day that we don't stop and question the messaging this country slips a notch.

We've been having the same argument for 30 years and the evidence is clear: Cutting taxes for the rich, deregulating all the rules set up after the Great Depression and needless wars don't even remotely work, whether it's George W. Bush or Romney who's at the wheel of the belching sputtering Vega.

Seriously, America. Take a beat, think and look hard at the numbers. You're better than this crap. And we've got real stuff to work on together.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-mckay/romney-obama-election-2012_b_2080326.html

Yeah, don't fall for it again America. You know you want to be a socialist state. Those founders were dumbf**ks/Dave Lane

Brainiac
11-06-2012, 03:49 PM
So we're not okay with huge murals of Obama, but we're totally fine with Jesus Christ being all over the place.
Seriously? You think those two things are the same?

Is Jesus running for re-election today?

BigRedChief
11-06-2012, 04:39 PM
I have lost 2 jobs during Obama's administration.

Which way do you think I'm leaning?Dave, sorry man. Been without work myself. Sucks.

But, I've never blamed a President. I tripled my salary under George W. He wasnt responsible. I was, I built it.:rolleyes:

J Diddy
11-06-2012, 04:42 PM
Seriously? You think those two things are the same?

Is Jesus running for re-election today?

Jesus vs. Mormonism

Jesus is ahead in the polls.

vailpass
11-06-2012, 05:19 PM
Your vote does not really matter does it? There is no validation process for ensuring that your picks were counted correctly. The entire system is controlled by the counters. Remember what happened to gore in Florida? If you think your vote truly counts that's great. Voting just makes people feel good like their voice was heard but the voting process along with congress do not have our best interests in mind.

Thank god this shit is almost over. No matter who you chose this time, we all lose

Geez. Who put the smallpox in your blanket today?

TribalElder
11-06-2012, 05:51 PM
lol

http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/11/06/2258201/voting-machine-problem-reports-already-rolling-in

I demand a recount

LiveSteam
11-06-2012, 05:59 PM
Obama is a white man

ClevelandBronco
11-06-2012, 07:54 PM
Obama is a white man

No, he's half and half.

I think they call that a hermaphrodite.

BucEyedPea
11-06-2012, 07:58 PM
I voted at a Holiday Inn. So does that mean I was influenced by Big Business, shitty hotel food or that hot chick with the great ass standing to my left? Hint: It was the ass. And I'm not referring to a picture of Obama.

Was it a Holiday Inn Express?