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pr_capone
11-06-2012, 03:50 PM
With none of the QBs coming out of college seeming to be a #1 overall lock... what say we back up the Brinks truck and try and bring Flacco to KC?

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-06-2012, 03:51 PM
Really? Like Baltimore won't Franchise him at minimum, much less show him the money themselves. Screw it regardless, I want Geno or Barkley.

pr_capone
11-06-2012, 03:52 PM
Really? Like Baltimore won't Franchise him at minimum, much less show him the money themselves. Screw it regardless, I want Geno or Barkley.

It's not like there is a whole hell of a lot else to talk about. LOL

Count Zarth
11-06-2012, 03:53 PM
Baltimore is going to give this guy $100m.

rabblerouser
11-06-2012, 03:53 PM
I'd take him, but Baltimore won't let him leave town.

Tribal Warfare
11-06-2012, 03:54 PM
Nope, this is the year to go for a QB in the draft everyone and their mother will be after Flacco ( Cowboys) even if he doesn't sign with Ravens

Bewbies
11-06-2012, 03:57 PM
No, we will use the #1 pick on our own home grown QB.

Marcellus
11-06-2012, 03:58 PM
It would play out as revenge from Baltimore for getting Grbac after he left us.

DeezNutz
11-06-2012, 04:00 PM
Brinks truck? The Chiefs own an ATM smart car.

rabblerouser
11-06-2012, 04:01 PM
It would play out as revenge from Baltimore for getting Grbac after he left us.

bwahahahaha!! LMAO

mcaj22
11-06-2012, 04:01 PM
and what if they franchise him?

lol

Bump
11-06-2012, 04:03 PM
we are likely to get a top 2 pick with 3 very good QB's coming out and you're thinking Joe Flacco? wow.

mcaj22
11-06-2012, 04:04 PM
Joe Flacco and Sean Payton, a true Chiefs homer dream

Rooster
11-06-2012, 04:04 PM
Brinks truck? The Chiefs own an ATM smart car.

Yes but it's a red smart car.

mr. tegu
11-06-2012, 04:05 PM
Do not want.

pr_capone
11-06-2012, 04:05 PM
we are likely to get a top 2 pick with 3 very good QB's coming out and you're thinking Joe Flacco? wow.

I'm just making conversation. Put down the Sativa and pick up the Indica instead man.

Crush
11-06-2012, 04:11 PM
NO WE'RE GOING TO DRAFT A FUCKING FIRST ROUND QB AND GROOM HIM!!! NO MORE RETREADS!!!

pr_capone
11-06-2012, 04:12 PM
NO WE'RE GOING TO DRAFT A ****ING QB AND GROOM HIM!!! NO MORE RETREADS!!!

LMAO

Flacco isn't a retread though.

notorious
11-06-2012, 04:14 PM
Do not want.

This.

Chief Roundup
11-06-2012, 04:17 PM
LMAO

Flacco isn't a retread though.

Huh what is your definition of a retread?
To me it is any QB drafted and developed by another team.

pr_capone
11-06-2012, 04:20 PM
Huh what is your definition of a retread?
To me it is any QB drafted and developed by another team.

A retread would be a guy like Trent Green or Gannon. Had some potential and for one reason or another it did not work out with the original team. Goes somewhere else in hopes that a change in scenery does the trick.

That is like calling LeBron a retread because he isn't with the Cavs anymore.

Count Zarth
11-06-2012, 04:21 PM
If by some act of god we got Flacco...it would be like the Saints getting Drew Brees.

Not a retread.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-06-2012, 04:25 PM
With none of the QBs coming out of college seeming to be a #1 overall lock... what say we back up the Brinks truck and try and bring Flacco to KC?

You're right. Way too risky. Just say no to drafting a QB.

hometeam
11-06-2012, 04:26 PM
In no universe does Flacco walk away from Baltimore.

theelusiveeightrop
11-06-2012, 04:28 PM
Brinks truck? The Chiefs own an ATM smart car.


The Chiefs own nothing smart.

CoMoChief
11-06-2012, 04:29 PM
With none of the QBs coming out of college seeming to be a #1 overall lock... what say we back up the Brinks truck and try and bring Flacco to KC?

So the guy who started the banners wants another team's QB?

Have you not learned anything in the past 25 years?

:shake:

SNR
11-06-2012, 04:32 PM
Off topic, but I'd really like to see the Chiefs bring in Bruce Gradkowski for back up. It's about time we get a REAL veteran in here to stabilize our backup situation.

No, Scott, Brady Quinn doesn't count.

pr_capone
11-06-2012, 04:32 PM
So the guy who started the banners wants another team's QB?

Have you not learned anything in the past 25 years?

:shake:

Did I say I wanted Flacco? I'm just putting up a football topic. Christ. Check your pad, you might need to change it.

Mr. Flopnuts
11-06-2012, 04:34 PM
I would fucking take Flacco over a QB in the draft in a fucking heartbeat. Are you kidding me? The superstar QB coming into his 2nd contract having just come up? No grooming. That's been done. And he loves Zorn. It would be awesome.

KCinNY
11-06-2012, 04:37 PM
No chance Ozzie Newsome lets him walk as an unrestricted free agent...none.

mr. tegu
11-06-2012, 04:38 PM
I would ****ing take Flacco over a QB in the draft in a ****ing heartbeat. Are you kidding me? The superstar QB coming into his 2nd contract having just come up? No grooming. That's been done. And he loves Zorn. It would be awesome.

:spock:

CoMoChief
11-06-2012, 04:40 PM
Did I say I wanted Flacco? I'm just putting up a football topic. Christ. Check your pad, you might need to change it.

Right.... there was no implication there.

And it's Joe Flacco....not exactly a QB to cream in your jeans over.

Maybe I do need to change my pad. Watching your team become the worst team ever in the history in the NFL right before your own eyes will do that to a man.

pr_capone
11-06-2012, 04:44 PM
If there was any implication there, it was completely unintentional. Just something to talk about to pass the time until draft day.

Easy 6
11-06-2012, 04:46 PM
eh, meh

fire_egoli
11-06-2012, 04:49 PM
GO JAGUARS

ChiefGator
11-06-2012, 04:50 PM
When did Flacco suddenly become the next coming of Matt Ryan or Manning? When the team puts the game on his shoulders, he more often screws up then plays up to expectations. He is a game manager. period.

Count Zarth
11-06-2012, 04:56 PM
I dunno what Flacco is to be honest, right now.

Early this season he was playing like a top QB and he's leveled off.

He was still one completion away from the SB last year. A dropped completion.

Deberg_1990
11-06-2012, 05:00 PM
Hes ok, not top tier....but honestly, id rather the Chiefs just take their chances with a top rookie.

Sure-Oz
11-06-2012, 05:12 PM
Reminds me of Grbac

BossChief
11-06-2012, 05:49 PM
It sure would be tempting. Sign Flacco and trade down from the top pick stockpiling an assload of premium picks in the process wouldn't necessarily piss me off.

Easy 6
11-06-2012, 06:03 PM
I just think he's overhyped because of the team he plays for.

With guys like Smith, Boldin, Rice and a solid line... he's currently throwing a very cassel-esque 59%.

Hopefully the ravens just love them some him.

Rausch
11-06-2012, 06:07 PM
It sure would be tempting. Sign Flacco and trade down from the top pick stockpiling an assload of premium picks in the process wouldn't necessarily piss me off.

Sign him AND draft a QB.

No more putting all our eggs in one basket and hoping it works out.

seamonster
11-06-2012, 06:11 PM
Pretty terrifying. He's more than likely gone after this year in baltimore and he's the exact type of retread quarterback the chiefs always seek out. if they sign "joe flaacooo" (said in balmiore crabbing accent) and waste another high draft pick on overrated SEC players this franchise will be flat ****ed for decades. Nasty.

pr_capone
11-06-2012, 06:13 PM
Pretty terrifying. He's more than likely gone after this year in baltimore and he's the exact type of retread quarterback the chiefs always seek out. if they draft "joe flaacooo" (said in balmiore crabbing accent) and waste another high draft pick on overrated SEC players this franchise will be flat ****ed for decades. Nasty.

another person throwing out the R word. /facepalm

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Rausch
11-06-2012, 06:18 PM
Pretty terrifying. He's more than likely gone after this year in baltimore and he's the exact type of retread quarterback the chiefs always seek out.

Retread?

He's been with one team his whole career...:rolleyes:

Brock
11-06-2012, 06:18 PM
Pretty terrifying. He's more than likely gone after this year in baltimore and he's the exact type of retread quarterback the chiefs always seek out. if they sign "joe flaacooo" (said in balmiore crabbing accent) and waste another high draft pick on overrated SEC players this franchise will be flat ****ed for decades. Nasty.

What on earth makes you think he's leaving Baltimore?

Count Zarth
11-06-2012, 06:25 PM
Why does anyone think Flacco is gone in Baltimore?

LMAO

BossChief
11-06-2012, 06:26 PM
Flacco is completing 59% because he is constantly throwing downfield.

It sure would be fitting to sign Joe Flacco in the offseason we lose Dorsey to FA. it would almost be like fixing the 2008 draft.

BossChief
11-06-2012, 06:29 PM
Why does anyone think Flacco is gone in Baltimore?

LMAO

Just a talking point. You could also ask "why are we talking about drafting a first round quarterback like it's actually gonna happen?"

seamonster
11-06-2012, 06:33 PM
What on earth makes you think he's leaving Baltimore?

Flaco's the worst quarterback in his division and looked terrible in back to back games. with that offensive line and receiving core it wouldn't surprise me if they benched flaco before the year's over. he's a statue pocket passer that makes slow reads.

Rausch
11-06-2012, 06:35 PM
Flaco's the worst quarterback in his division and looked terrible in back to back games. with that offensive line and receiving core it wouldn't surprise me if they benched flaco before the year's over.

:facepalm:

mcaj22
11-06-2012, 06:35 PM
Flaco's the worst quarterback in his division and looked terrible in back to back games. with that offensive line and receiving core it wouldn't surprise me if they benched flaco before the year's over. he's a statue pocket passer that makes slow reads.

LOL BENCH FLACCO

this has got to be a troll account

Dayze
11-06-2012, 06:36 PM
Pass.

BossChief
11-06-2012, 06:39 PM
Flacco has more regular and post season wins than any qb during the span he has been a starter. Can't put all of that as wins by the defense.

This team played winning football with Kyle Orton...going from Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn to Joe Flacco would be DRASTIC.

BossChief
11-06-2012, 06:40 PM
Flaco's the worst quarterback in his division and looked terrible in back to back games. with that offensive line and receiving core it wouldn't surprise me if they benched flaco before the year's over. he's a statue pocket passer that makes slow reads.

Mods...can we change this guy to PurpleBob or something?

Rausch
11-06-2012, 06:44 PM
Flacco has more regular and post season wins than any qb during the span he has been a starter. Can't put all of that as wins by the defense.

This team played winning football with Kyle Orton...going from Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn to Joe Flacco would be DRASTIC.

And keep improving the position.

Don't ****ing keep Quinn around and draft another 5th round guy to keep fans interested in some underdog story.

I want a GM/HC that looks for a Steve Young when they already have a Montana...

-King-
11-06-2012, 06:45 PM
Hell to the yes. He'll be franchised if he's not re-signed long term though.

seamonster
11-06-2012, 06:48 PM
If cassle does does this -- 21/43 147 3.4 avg, 15/25 153 6.4 avg, 13/27 187 6.9 avg -- he gets crucified and blown up online and on national TV. I have to watch baltimore games and Flaco looks like a more confused dave craig right now. He's probably leaving balitmore, and the chiefs would be deranged enough to pay aaron rogers-like money on a washed up retread quarterback from the ravens.

Woodchuck
11-06-2012, 06:56 PM
With none of the QBs coming out of college seeming to be a #1 overall lock... what say we back up the Brinks truck and try and bring Flacco to KC?

I get flamed for two pages when I say the same thing LOL

Yes, go all in on flacco if we can. However, Baltimore will be tagging him at the very least imo.

BossChief
11-06-2012, 07:00 PM
If cassle does does this -- 21/43 147 3.4 avg, 15/25 153 6.4 avg, 13/27 187 6.9 avg -- he gets crucified and blown up online and on national TV. I have to watch baltimore games and Flaco looks like a more confused dave craig right now. He's probably leaving balitmore, and the chiefs would be deranged enough to pay aaron rogers-like money on a washed up retread quarterback from the ravens.
hahaha

Cassel AVERAGES 175 yards per game.

Cassels average QBR of the last 4 years is 44.5

Joe Flaccos is 57.7

You don't truly understand how bad we have it in KC, do you?

KCinNY
11-06-2012, 07:00 PM
Not a retread IMO. Flacco will get a big $$$ deal from Baltimore.

The retread QB that fits the Chiefs profile would be Tony Romo. I could see the Chiefs letting Albert and Bowe walk claiming they were asking for too much $$$$. Pioli could then justify an LT with our Smith/Barkley pick after overspending with a fat contract for Romo(his Father in Law originially signed him in Dallas IIRC).

pr_capone
11-06-2012, 07:02 PM
I get flamed for two pages when I say the same thing LOL

Yes, go all in on flacco if we can. However, Baltimore will be tagging him at the very least imo.

I never said we should get him. I only brought up a talking point.

I would 1000x draft Geno and let Flacco pass right on by. That said, if KC goes after, and lands, Flacco... I'm not gonna run around flipping tables and shitting in buffets.

Woodchuck
11-06-2012, 07:06 PM
I never said we should get him. I only brought up a talking point.

I would 1000x draft Geno and let Flacco pass right on by. That said, if KC goes after, and lands, Flacco... I'm not gonna run around flipping tables and shitting in buffets.

I understand that. I am just saying that when I say there is no #1 clear cut QB prospect, people go nuts. I am not suprised you would take Geno over Flacco. I meant to say "I would go all in..."

BossChief
11-06-2012, 07:24 PM
WOW, this is how bad Cassel is...

During all his time in Kansas City...going all the way back to his first start in 2009...Matt Cassel has only completed 43 passes that traveled 20 or more yards in the air.

Thats basically 3 full seasons and he averages LESS THAT ONE COMPLETION PER GAME OF 20 YARDS OR MORE.

In Joe Flaccos last two full seasons, he has completed 44 passes over 21 yards in the air.

Flacco did in 2 seasons what it took Cassel to do in three.

BigChiefFan
11-06-2012, 07:29 PM
Anybody that thinks they won't franchise him is living in denial.

BossChief
11-06-2012, 07:31 PM
Anybody that thinks they won't franchise him is living in denial.

Its just a talking point, dude.

Count Zarth
11-06-2012, 07:31 PM
During all his time in Kansas City...going all the way back to his first start in 2009...Matt Cassel has only completed 43 passes that traveled 20 or more yards in the air.


That's literally in the declaration, dawg.

Gus Cassel, Deep Passing, By Year:

2011 - 9 for 30 (30%)
2010 - 10 for 44 (23%) - BEST YEAR OF GUS CASSEL'S LIFE
2009 - 16 for 55 (29%)

8 completions this year.

43 completions in 46 games. LMAO

Brock
11-06-2012, 07:52 PM
Flaco's the worst quarterback in his division and looked terrible in back to back games. with that offensive line and receiving core it wouldn't surprise me if they benched flaco before the year's over. he's a statue pocket passer that makes slow reads.

Yeah, no fucking way.

thurman merman
11-06-2012, 08:17 PM
Joe Flacco is terrible.

Rausch
11-06-2012, 08:26 PM
Joe Flacco is terrible.

No.

Ca$$hole is terrible...

Simply Red
11-06-2012, 08:38 PM
I understand that. I am just saying that when I say there is no #1 clear cut QB prospect, people go nuts. I am not suprised you would take Geno over Flacco. I meant to say "I would go all in..."

Fuck you.

Saccopoo
11-06-2012, 08:55 PM
With none of the QBs coming out of college seeming to be a #1 overall lock... what say we back up the Brinks truck and try and bring Flacco to KC?

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8772/2u47vo7g.gif

Saccopoo
11-06-2012, 09:00 PM
If there was any implication there, it was completely unintentional. Just something to talk about to pass the time until draft day.

Your unintentional implications suck the fungus off a pigs balls.

****ing Flacco...

Really?

Jesus Stop Dancing Christ...just when you had everything and everyone in your corner ready to march on Arrowhead with pitchforks and torches and you say Flacco?! When Smith and Barkley are out there for the taking?

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!

pr_capone
11-06-2012, 09:01 PM
Your unintentional implications suck the fungus of a pigs balls.

****ing Flacco...

Really?

Jesus Stop Dancing Christ...just when you had everything and everyone in your corner ready to march on Arrowhead with pitchforks and torches and you say Flacco?! When Smith and Barkley are out there for the taking?

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO

Easy 6
11-06-2012, 09:05 PM
THAT

BossChief
11-06-2012, 09:12 PM
I love it when Sac isnt talking about the OL.

IMO he is a top 30 poster when he isnt.

Molitoth
11-06-2012, 09:14 PM
Instead of bringing in yet another cast off, I'd much rather take a chance on someone with a much higher ceiling.
Flacco is barely an above average QB.

Saccopoo
11-06-2012, 10:44 PM
I love it when Sac isnt talking about the OL.

IMO he is a top 30 poster when he isnt.

Top 30?

Like there is 30 people around here better than me.

I think I just trickled a little piss down my leg as a result of laughing so hard.

BossChief
11-06-2012, 10:50 PM
Top 30?

Like there is 30 people around here better than me.

I think I just trickled a little piss down my leg as a result of laughing so hard.

With your OL talk, you drop to somewhere in the 200s or so.

:p

KILLER_CLOWN
11-07-2012, 12:01 AM
NO!!!!!!!

Woodchuck
11-07-2012, 06:33 AM
Joe Flacco is terrible.

Was he terrible in the final minute of the AFC Championship game last year? That was one of the best drives of the decade until Evans dropped the TD and Cundiff missed.

Joe Flacco is proven imo. It would be really dumb to take a guy who hasn't played a snap over Flacco. Especially out this draft class. There's no Luck or even a Stafford. You know what you have in a player by the end of his third year and Flacco was pretty damn good in his first three years.

That said, Baltimore will never ever let him go. They have the best GM in football and that would be the worst move of the decade if they let him walk. It's never going to happen.

Reerun_KC
11-07-2012, 07:09 AM
No to Flacco..

Take a franchise QB with the first overall pic...

Woodchuck
11-07-2012, 07:10 AM
No to Flacco..

Take a franchise QB with the first overall pic...

What if you scouts tell you there isn't one in this draft?

Reerun_KC
11-07-2012, 07:15 AM
What if you scouts tell you there isn't one in this draft?

I would laugh at them the same way I laugh at you... Same shit different year from guys like you.

HemiEd
11-07-2012, 08:51 AM
No, we will use the #1 pick on our own home grown 5 tech DE.

fixed it

TEX
11-07-2012, 11:02 AM
The Ravens aren't going to let him walk.

MahiMike
11-07-2012, 11:09 AM
Definitely worth considering. Jarvis Jones + Flacco way better than a 2nd round 2012 QB.

saphojunkie
11-07-2012, 11:59 AM
What if you scouts tell you there isn't one in this draft?

You are retarded.

SNR
11-07-2012, 12:41 PM
What if you scouts tell you there isn't one in this draft?

I don't care if Landry Jones is the best QB in the draft. You take him at #1 overall.

This team should have drafted a QB when they started sucking in 2007. They didn't. They took the "elite" DT. Look where that got them.

Enough of this bullshit. If it works out, then great! If not, then the team will naturally fall into the cellar. Then you try again.

Rausch
11-07-2012, 12:43 PM
I don't care if Landry Jones is the best QB in the draft. You take him at #1 overall.

This team should have drafted a QB when they started sucking in 2007. They didn't. They took the "elite" DT. Look where that got them.

Enough of this bullshit. If it works out, then great! If not, then the team will naturally fall into the cellar. Then you try again.

Seven years of rebuilding and not once did we draft a QB in the top 2 rounds.

Who the fuck rebuilds without a QB?...:spock:

Woodchuck
11-07-2012, 12:47 PM
I don't care if Landry Jones is the best QB in the draft. You take him at #1 overall.

This team should have drafted a QB when they started sucking in 2007. They didn't. They took the "elite" DT. Look where that got them.

Enough of this bullshit. If it works out, then great! If not, then the team will naturally fall into the cellar. Then you try again.

Wait a minute man... When I asked you if you felt this way last april, you said you wouldn't have taken Weedan at #11.

Why would you take Jones at #1 but not take Weedan at #11?

This is why I am confused.

Sorter
11-07-2012, 12:51 PM
Seven years of rebuilding and not once did we draft a QB in the top 2 rounds.

Who the **** rebuilds without a QB?...:spock:

We spent one alright. A second on Matt Castle. :(

SNR
11-07-2012, 12:52 PM
Wait a minute man... When I asked you if you felt this way last april, you said you wouldn't have taken Weedan at #11.

Why would you take Jones at #1 but not take Weedan at #11?

This is why I am confused.

Great idea to build around a 30 year old QB whose primary athletic experience is fucking baseball. Think the Royals will let us borrow Hochevar to put behind center when they're not using him?

We already tried Brandon Weeden. His name is Matt Cassel.

saphojunkie
11-07-2012, 01:00 PM
You know, in the Chiefs' defense, they did spend a first round pick on a quarterback in 2001 when we traded for Trent Green. I know that's not the same as drafting a guy, but at least they had the sack to use a first rounder on a QB in some capacity.

It's no wonder that we had our most successful offense when we did that.

whoman69
11-07-2012, 01:06 PM
There is 0 chance Flacco is not signed.

DJ's left nut
11-07-2012, 01:08 PM
I'd certainly consider it.

But I like Flacco more than a lot of guys. I still think he's one of the better downfield passers in the league and would be able to do incredible things with Charles, Bowe and Baldwin at his disposal.

He's taken some time to develop (as most QBs do), but he's a legitimate SB caliber QB at this point. I'm not sure there's much space between him and Roethlisberger. He's still only 28 so you'll have him for quite awhile still.

And it would free us up to take a guy in like Jones at #1 overall. You can't compare taking Jarvis Jones to taking Tyson Jackson. There are 3 positions in football worthy of the #1 overall pick, maybe 4 - QB, LT, Pass Rusher, WR.

Jarvis Jones would be an absolute difference maker on this team and is a justifiable #1 overall pick in a vacuum.

It's another scenario worth at least considering, IMO. If you get Flacco, Jones and then the first pick in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, you're talking about 4 new high-value starters at key positions with all other key positions already filled.

I know the popular opinion will remain to take a QB at #1 overall and it's certainly still my preferred route...but this one is worth contemplating as well. It forces you to continue scouting guys like Jarvis Jones or even Lotuleili.

That said - the Ravens won't lose him. They'll franchise him if necessary.

MahiMike
11-07-2012, 07:51 PM
I'd certainly consider it.

But I like Flacco more than a lot of guys. I still think he's one of the better downfield passers in the league and would be able to do incredible things with Charles, Bowe and Baldwin at his disposal.

He's taken some time to develop (as most QBs do), but he's a legitimate SB caliber QB at this point. I'm not sure there's much space between him and Roethlisberger. He's still only 28 so you'll have him for quite awhile still.

And it would free us up to take a guy in like Jones at #1 overall. You can't compare taking Jarvis Jones to taking Tyson Jackson. There are 3 positions in football worthy of the #1 overall pick, maybe 4 - QB, LT, Pass Rusher, WR.

Jarvis Jones would be an absolute difference maker on this team and is a justifiable #1 overall pick in a vacuum.

It's another scenario worth at least considering, IMO. If you get Flacco, Jones and then the first pick in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, you're talking about 4 new high-value starters at key positions with all other key positions already filled.

I know the popular opinion will remain to take a QB at #1 overall and it's certainly still my preferred route...but this one is worth contemplating as well. It forces you to continue scouting guys like Jarvis Jones or even Lotuleili.

That said - the Ravens won't lose him. They'll franchise him if necessary.

well stated. I think Jarvis Jones is another Derrick Thomas. He single-handedly beat Mizzou and Florida. Get both AND a QB to develop.