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PunkinDrublic
11-07-2012, 08:39 PM
This was my first job out of college and I had worked there for about 5 and a half years. I was doing so well in my old department and had even gotten rewarded but then at the end of July I got moved to a department where I was just constantly butting heads with managesment to the point where I was written up a couple of times in September. Try as I might I could not get moved to another department. Needless to say it was one of the most unpleasent work environments I've ever been in. Well around 3 today I get pulled into the VPs office and got canned. It's kind of a relief because I knew I wasn't fitting in very well with the managers I worked under. It was stressing me to the point where it was affecting my life outside of work. At the same time waking up tomorrow and not having a job freaks me out. i worked all through college and immediately found something after graduation. I was already looking for work while I was employed but it's hard to find time to schedule interviews when you are working all the time.

I'm not used to not having a job to go to. I signed up for unemployment already and have a little bit of money put away. I'm confident I'll find work but the uncertainty of when I'll get hired scares the **** out of me. What if most employers aren't hiring until after the holidays? Anyway just curious how some of you guys dealt with temporary unemployment.

Update: Finally Got a new job. I start tomorrow.

Buck
11-07-2012, 08:43 PM
Good luck man. I was unemployed for 2 years, but it was in San Diego which has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country. You have to just keep looking.

Buehler445
11-07-2012, 08:44 PM
This was my first job out of college and I had worked there for about 5 and a half years. I was doing so well in my old department and had even gotten rewarded but then at the end of July I got moved to a department where I was just constantly butting heads with managesment to the point where I was written up a couple of times in September. Try as I might I could not get moved to another department. Needless to say it was one of the most unpleasent work environments I've ever been in. Well around 3 today I get pulled into the VPs office and got canned. It's kind of a relief because I knew I wasn't fitting in very well with the managers I worked under. It was stressing me to the point where it was affecting my life outside of work. At the same time waking up tomorrow and not having a job freaks me out. i worked all through college and immediately found something after graduation. I was already looking for work while I was employed but it's hard to find time to schedule interviews when you are working all the time.

I'm not used to not having a job to go to. I signed up for unemployment already and have a little bit of money put away. I'm confident I'll find work but the uncertainty of when I'll get hired scares the **** out of me. What if most employers aren't hiring until after the holidays? Anyway just curious how some of you guys dealt with temporary unemployment.

Fuck man. Sorry to hear.

If I were you, I'd go find a farmer that will pay you in cash. I think there is still some work being done down there. Look for a job in the morning and make cash at night.

Most farmers will probably work with you. Finding temp help is a bitch and most guys at least around here anyway would pay fairly well in cash.

Buehler445
11-07-2012, 08:44 PM
Good luck man. I was unemployed for 2 years, but it was in San Diego which has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country. You have to just keep looking.

Yep. Just keep plugging.

J Diddy
11-07-2012, 08:45 PM
Sorry to hear about it but glad it gave you an out to go to a place where you might like it better. Good luck.

RunKC
11-07-2012, 08:45 PM
This was my first job out of college and I had worked there for about 5 and a half years. I was doing so well in my old department and had even gotten rewarded but then at the end of July I got moved to a department where I was just constantly butting heads with managesment to the point where I was written up a couple of times in September. Try as I might I could not get moved to another department. Needless to say it was one of the most unpleasent work environments I've ever been in. Well around 3 today I get pulled into the VPs office and got canned. It's kind of a relief because I knew I wasn't fitting in very well with the managers I worked under. It was stressing me to the point where it was affecting my life outside of work. At the same time waking up tomorrow and not having a job freaks me out. i worked all through college and immediately found something after graduation. I was already looking for work while I was employed but it's hard to find time to schedule interviews when you are working all the time.

I'm not used to not having a job to go to. I signed up for unemployment already and have a little bit of money put away. I'm confident I'll find work but the uncertainty of when I'll get hired scares the **** out of me. What if most employers aren't hiring until after the holidays? Anyway just curious how some of you guys dealt with temporary unemployment.

Sounds like a sign that you need a new opportunity if you had problems that kept bothering you after work.

You'll be fine bro. Just keep your head up and be ambitious in your search and you'll have a new opportunity in no time.

Chiefaholic
11-07-2012, 08:45 PM
Happened to me once a few years back when the company I worked for filed bankruptcy and sent everybody a certified letter on December 23 letting everybody know their job had been terminated. We left work for "vacation" being told we'de be working overtime after the holiday, only to find out mid vacation there wasn't a job to go back to. Needless to say, I didn't sleep much and I made looking for a job a full time job for 6 weeks until I found one.

Setsuna
11-07-2012, 08:48 PM
Somebody gets re-elected and you lose your job. This country is in good hands. IT'S A JOKE! FUCK OFF!

Sorry man. Do you know if you have options at this point?

DenverDanChiefsFan
11-07-2012, 08:49 PM
Sucks dude. I was laid off May 1 and am still looking. Hopefully your job hunt doesn't take as long.

Pawnmower
11-07-2012, 08:49 PM
sorry to hear it but it will work out 4 the best

BigRedChief
11-07-2012, 08:53 PM
You will land on your feet. Good luck.

What skills do you have? Maybe the planet can help?

JohnnyHammersticks
11-07-2012, 08:56 PM
This was my first job out of college and I had worked there for about 5 and a half years. I was doing so well in my old department and had even gotten rewarded but then at the end of July I got moved to a department where I was just constantly butting heads with managesment to the point where I was written up a couple of times in September. Try as I might I could not get moved to another department. Needless to say it was one of the most unpleasent work environments I've ever been in. Well around 3 today I get pulled into the VPs office and got canned. It's kind of a relief because I knew I wasn't fitting in very well with the managers I worked under. It was stressing me to the point where it was affecting my life outside of work. At the same time waking up tomorrow and not having a job freaks me out. i worked all through college and immediately found something after graduation. I was already looking for work while I was employed but it's hard to find time to schedule interviews when you are working all the time.

I'm not used to not having a job to go to. I signed up for unemployment already and have a little bit of money put away. I'm confident I'll find work but the uncertainty of when I'll get hired scares the **** out of me. What if most employers aren't hiring until after the holidays? Anyway just curious how some of you guys dealt with temporary unemployment.

Do you have kids? Because if you don't have kids, you could arm yourself to the teeth and go back there and blow the manager's and vp's heads off. That's always an option. If life hands you a lemon, make lemonade. Bloody, bloody lemonade...

Bacon Cheeseburger
11-07-2012, 08:56 PM
Eh, sometimes a push out the door is the best thing for you.

MagicHef
11-07-2012, 08:58 PM
You're in Texas? You won't be unemployed long.

petegz28
11-07-2012, 09:01 PM
Trust me, this is a true blessing. I was in a very, very similar situation just earlier this year. At least you were written up. I was called into managment and was told "we have concerns about you being happy". When I asked what brought said concerns I was told "We aren't going to discuss specifics". Talk about bullshit. This happened twice before I finally started pushing back some which I knew was just writing my eventual exit.

I was working a shitload of hours, I was stressed to no end and there were no signs of it getting better. The day we agreed that I should part ways I was down about not having a job. It took all of 2 days before I realized the stress of not having a job wasn't half as stressfull as it was working at that place.

Lumpy
11-07-2012, 09:03 PM
Office politics. I'm so glad I don't deal w/ that crap anymore.

You seem to be looking at this as being a blessing in disguise though. That is a good sign. When Gonzo got laid off, it was tough, but we survived. You will do the same if you stay sharp and motivated.

Take a little time off, regain your focus, and you'll find something that will be a better fit for you.

PunkinDrublic
11-07-2012, 09:05 PM
You're in Texas? You won't be unemployed long.

I hope you're right. I'm a veteran and there is a big push to hire veterans down here. It's just been a really long time since I lost a job.

Simply Red
11-07-2012, 10:16 PM
This was my first job out of college and I had worked there for about 5 and a half years. I was doing so well in my old department and had even gotten rewarded but then at the end of July I got moved to a department where I was just constantly butting heads with managesment to the point where I was written up a couple of times in September. Try as I might I could not get moved to another department. Needless to say it was one of the most unpleasent work environments I've ever been in. Well around 3 today I get pulled into the VPs office and got canned. It's kind of a relief because I knew I wasn't fitting in very well with the managers I worked under. It was stressing me to the point where it was affecting my life outside of work. At the same time waking up tomorrow and not having a job freaks me out. i worked all through college and immediately found something after graduation. I was already looking for work while I was employed but it's hard to find time to schedule interviews when you are working all the time.

I'm not used to not having a job to go to. I signed up for unemployment already and have a little bit of money put away. I'm confident I'll find work but the uncertainty of when I'll get hired scares the **** out of me. What if most employers aren't hiring until after the holidays? Anyway just curious how some of you guys dealt with temporary unemployment.

If you're persistent, nobody can stop you.

per∑sist∑ent/pərˈsistənt/
Adjective:
Continuing firmly or obstinately in a course of action in spite of difficulty or opposition.

Now go get them bud!

teedubya
11-07-2012, 10:20 PM
Keep learning skills and stuff while you are unemployed... Learning is the key to continual career growth... and not just college courses... free online courses... keep reading... keep growing.

You have to sometimes evolve with the market...

Simply Red
11-07-2012, 10:22 PM
oh & don't trust anything Peter tells you on here.

MagicHef
11-07-2012, 10:27 PM
I hope you're right. I'm a veteran and there is a big push to hire veterans down here. It's just been a really long time since I lost a job.

I lost my job in CO, and was unemployed for a year before I decided moving to Texas wouldn't really be that bad, and started looking down here as well. I got a job almost immediately.

LiveSteam
11-07-2012, 10:27 PM
Sorry to hear about anyone losing a job. Like others have said. Keep on keep-en on & it will work out for the better. When work comes home with you in a bad way. Its time to move on.

Psyko Tek
11-07-2012, 10:32 PM
Office politics. I'm so glad I don't deal w/ that crap anymore.

You seem to be looking at this as being a blessing in disguise though. That is a good sign. When Gonzo got laid off, it was tough, but we survived. You will do the same if you stay sharp and motivated.

Take a little time off, regain your focus, and you'll find something that will be a better fit for you.

she is right ...
get drunk
get laid
get to lookin' for that next job

petegz28
11-07-2012, 10:49 PM
oh & don't trust anything Peter tells you on here.

Hey now...only 3 people call me Peter...

1. My Mom when she is mad at me
2. My Wife when she is mad at me
3. My Grandfather who is no longer with us.


So you just watch yourself or you'll be number 4!!! :p

ChiefsNow
11-07-2012, 10:57 PM
Lost mine yesterday.

LiveSteam
11-07-2012, 11:06 PM
Lost mine yesterday.

Dam this thread is depressing.
My trade is becoming more depressing with every passing day.
Seriously thinking about firing myself after this house is done. Parking all my equipment at the farm, & jumping on the GOV bandwagon.

petegz28
11-07-2012, 11:07 PM
Dam this thread is depressing.
My trade is becoming more depressing with every passing day.
Seriously thinking about firing myself after this house is done. Parking all my equipment at the farm, & jumping on the GOV bandwagon.

I hear Obama will give you a free phone!

LiveSteam
11-07-2012, 11:11 PM
I hear Obama will give you a free phone!

Fuck his phones. If I could have 6 or 7 free Mexicans like everyone else I have to compete against I would be just fine.

Buehler445
11-07-2012, 11:13 PM
Lost mine yesterday.

Sorry to hear that man.

Simply Red
11-07-2012, 11:16 PM
Hey now...only 3 people call me Peter...

1. My Mom when she is mad at me
2. My Wife when she is mad at me
3. My Grandfather who is no longer with us.


So you just watch yourself or you'll be number 4!!! :p

Sorry Pete.

rico
11-07-2012, 11:40 PM
I lost my job 3 weeks ago. I had been at the company for 5 and a half years. It was my first job after college graduation as well.

To start, I have a BA in Psychology from a private college and accumulated a mountain of debt attaining it...stupid...stupid...stupid. I didn't make wise decisions back then, I was ****ed up all the time. I discovered very soon that well-paying jobs are difficult to come by with Psych degree. Anyways, I went back to college this semester to pursue an RN degree. I figure this will complement the Psychology degree well. I am intending on eventually becoming a Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner. I am in 4 classes this semester and 3 of them are online. The one regular class I have did not conflict with my work schedule. And my numbers and performance at work was pretty good despite being a full time student and being a father of 2 daughters ages 23 months and 5 months.

So about 5 weeks ago, everyone in the company was informed that they had received a 5% pay decrease due to cash flow issues. I was pissed, not only for my sake, but for the employees that I supervise. They were making miniscule amounts of money prior to the company wide pay decrease. And of course, I had to be the bad guy and inform all of these people of the decision...a decision in which some of them thought I made.

As fate would have it, my 5 month old daughter became sick the night I was informed of the 5% pay decrease. She was admitted to the hospital and diagnosed with pertussis. I requested 2 weeks PTO (I had 225 hours racked up) so I could be with my daughter. My supervisor refused to grant it because in the handbook it states that they are not required to grant PTO under any circumstances if it has potential to affect business operations. I took it a step further and filled out a FMLA leave form (which my supervisor/company can not deny or control in any way) and had a doctor sign it. I filled it out for a leave of 3 weeks. According to our handbook/policy, my company is not supposed to contact someone on FMLA leave under any circumstances and it wasn't even an hour before I had my supervisor calling me and basically just whining because she had to perform some of my job tasks. Normally all she does is sit around her office resembling Jabba the Hut (she reminds me of a cross between Jabba the Hut and Bill Lumberg...has the Lumberg voice and way of approaching you), call people on the phone to discuss stupid shit and set up meetings where stupid shit is discussed and the glaring problems that she is blissfully unaware of are neglected. So she was required to do my work for 3 weeks, for in the county I worked in, I was the only Service Coordinator and the regions only auditor. Therefore, nobody was qualified to cover my shit except for her. It was presumably the first time she had been put in a situation at work in which she had little to no control over in a long time...probably 4-5 years. So she called me multiple times per day despite the fact that she wasn't supposed to and I ignored every one of her calls. Man, that felt good. Her voice mails were always concluded by her begging me not to tell anyone that she was trying to contact me, for she knew it was against company policy. She also disclosed many of my clients' names on her voice mails...due to HIPPA (which I audited for the region) she was not supposed to do that either. She was supposed to use their initials when referring to them. She would catch herself doing that and would conclude the voice mail with begging me to delete the voice mails in which she disclosed the clients' names.

Ok, so the 3 weeks were up and I plain and simply did not want to come back to that cesspool. I considered quitting. I had money saved up and had attained by CNA. I figured I could work for low pay as a CNA until I receive my RN. It would give me good experience. It was just...coming to that place was probably the most depressed I had ever been in my life. I had incompetent, cronified superiors, non-dependable staff who called in constantly and worst of all, clients who were 100% dependent on me in terms of every aspect of life....which contradicts the "mission" of the company which is to "empower" individuals with mental illnesses to "recover" so they no longer need to utilize us. Shit, they engraved the mission statements deep inside our craniums, but trained us to contradict the mission statement, for if clients truly did "recover" and no longer needed our services, we lost business. I felt more like an "enabler" of irresponsibility, unaccountability, dependency (on other people), people trying to score more government help than they reasonably "need," etc. Other than my auditing gig, I hated everything I represented in my position in that company. I am too proud of a person to not let these types of things get to me.

So I received a phone call from a co-worker who informed me that the whole program had gone to shit while I was gone (I had SHIT for backup) and that I had all sorts of emotional ruts to dig clients out of and structural ****-ups that took place during my absence which was now my responsibility to fix. On a regular work day, the shit is piled high. However, on this day, mountains of shit were piled on mountains of shit. So I called in. In my 5 and a half years there, this was the 2nd time I had ever called in. I had been sick many times, but worked through it because I didn't want to deal with the accumulation of bullshit when I came back. There was one day in 5 and a half years prior to this day where I was too sick to come in. I followed this by accessing my work email and submitting my two weeks notice.

After my supervisor received the email, she stated that she wanted to meet with me the following day because she had a plan in place in an attempt to work things out. I agreed to meet to listen to what she had to say. They gave me an ultimatum. I could either a.) accept a promotion to Regional Service Coordinator Team Leader on the condition that I drop out of nursing school. This would come with a pay increase that would put me conveniently .02/hr more than what I was making prior to the company wide pay decrease. or b.) stay in nursing school and accept a demotion to CSS staff that would essentially cut my pay in half. I told them to stick both offers up their schemish bungholios. I packed my shit, returned my keys and walked out.

This happened on the 16th and oddly enough, the human resource manager (who I was tight with, I had recently gotten her husband a decent-paying job at a factory where my father is general foreman) somehow talked the core team, which consisted of my supervisor, her supervisor and our billing specialist into paying me until the 29th of October, since that is the date in which was 2 weeks after I gave my 2 weeks notice. Somehow, they agreed to this, so I was paid for doing nothing from the 15th until the 29th of October along with the 3 weeks FMLA prior to the 15th. ****'em. I had 200+ hours of PTO racked up that I never used because I never could because it was never granted because my absence always seemed to "affect business operations." They ate shit with that small portion of the situation and I don't freaking care.

I saved a nice chunk of change prior to this, so I am doing ok for the time being. I want to get some midterm stuff done for school before going full-fledged in terms of prowling for jobs.

My main concern is health insurance. I received a letter from COBRA that stated that in order to continue my current health insurance plan, I had to pay $500 + per month. What can I do in regards to health insurance? There has got to be a cheaper way to be covered. It isn't even a family plan for my fiancee (baby-momma) will not be married until March. Not to mention, all I want covered is Dr. visits and prescription refills. That's it. I'm not worried about anything else. Anyone have any advice?

Sorry in advance for any disorganization... I didn't proofread and didn't intend on rambling about as much as I did.

Simply Red
11-07-2012, 11:51 PM
I lost my job 3 weeks ago. I had been at the company for 5 and a half years. It was my first job after college graduation as well.

To start, I have a BA in Psychology from a private college and accumulated a mountain of debt attaining it...stupid...stupid...stupid. I didn't make wise decisions back then, I was ****ed up all the time. I discovered very soon that well-paying jobs are difficult to come by with Psych degree. Anyways, I went back to college this semester to pursue an RN degree. I figure this will complement the Psychology degree well. I am intending on eventually becoming a Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner. I am in 4 classes this semester and 3 of them are online. The one regular class I have did not conflict with my work schedule. And my numbers and performance at work was pretty good despite being a full time student and being a father of 2 daughters ages 23 months and 5 months.

So about 5 weeks ago, everyone in the company was informed that they had received a 5% pay decrease due to cash flow issues. I was pissed, not only for my sake, but for the employees that I supervise. They were making miniscule amounts of money prior to the company wide pay decrease. And of course, I had to be the bad guy and inform all of these people of the decision...a decision in which some of them thought I made.

As fate would have it, my 5 month old daughter became sick the night I was informed of the 5% pay decrease. She was admitted to the hospital and diagnosed with pertussis. I requested 2 weeks PTO (I had 225 hours racked up) so I could be with my daughter. My supervisor refused to grant it because in the handbook it states that they are not required to grant PTO under any circumstances if it has potential to affect business operations. I took it a step further and filled out a FMLA leave form (which my supervisor/company can not deny or control in any way) and had a doctor sign it. I filled it out for a leave of 3 weeks. According to our handbook/policy, my company is not supposed to contact someone on FMLA leave under any circumstances and it wasn't even an hour before I had my supervisor calling me and basically just whining because she had to perform some of my job tasks. Normally all she does is sit around her office resembling Jabba the Hut (she reminds me of a cross between Jabba the Hut and Bill Lumberg...has the Lumberg voice and way of approaching you), call people on the phone to discuss stupid shit and set up meetings where stupid shit is discussed and the glaring problems that she is blissfully unaware of are neglected. So she was required to do my work for 3 weeks, for in the county I worked in, I was the only Service Coordinator and the regions only auditor. Therefore, nobody was qualified to cover my shit except for her. It was presumably the first time she had been put in a situation at work in which she had little to no control over in a long time...probably 4-5 years. So she called me multiple times per day despite the fact that she wasn't supposed to and I ignored every one of her calls. Man, that felt good. Her voice mails were always concluded by her begging me not to tell anyone that she was trying to contact me, for she knew it was against company policy. She also disclosed many of my clients' names on her voice mails...due to HIPPA (which I audited for the region) she was not supposed to do that either. She was supposed to use their initials when referring to them. She would catch herself doing that and would conclude the voice mail with begging me to delete the voice mails in which she disclosed the clients' names.

Ok, so the 3 weeks were up and I plain and simply did not want to come back to that cesspool. I considered quitting. I had money saved up and had attained by CNA. I figured I could work for low pay as a CNA until I receive my RN. It would give me good experience. It was just...coming to that place was probably the most depressed I had ever been in my life. I had incompetent, cronified superiors, non-dependable staff who called in constantly and worst of all, clients who were 100% dependent on me in terms of every aspect of life....which contradicts the "mission" of the company which is to "empower" individuals with mental illnesses to "recover" so they no longer need to utilize us. Shit, they engraved the mission statements deep inside our craniums, but trained us to contradict the mission statement, for if clients truly did "recover" and no longer needed our services, we lost business. I felt more like an "enabler" of irresponsibility, unaccountability, dependency (on other people), people trying to score more government help than they reasonably "need," etc. Other than my auditing gig, I hated everything I represented in my position in that company. I am too proud of a person to not let these types of things get to me.

So I received a phone call from a co-worker who informed me that the whole program had gone to shit while I was gone (I had SHIT for backup) and that I had all sorts of emotional ruts to dig clients out of and structural ****-ups that took place during my absence which was now my responsibility to fix. On a regular work day, the shit is piled high. However, on this day, mountains of shit were piled on mountains of shit. So I called in. In my 5 and a half years there, this was the 2nd time I had ever called in. I had been sick many times, but worked through it because I didn't want to deal with the accumulation of bullshit when I came back. There was one day in 5 and a half years prior to this day where I was too sick to come in. I followed this by accessing my work email and submitting my two weeks notice.

After my supervisor received the email, she stated that she wanted to meet with me the following day because she had a plan in place in an attempt to work things out. I agreed to meet to listen to what she had to say. They gave me an ultimatum. I could either a.) accept a promotion to Regional Service Coordinator Team Leader on the condition that I drop out of nursing school. This would come with a pay increase that would put me conveniently .02/hr more than what I was making prior to the company wide pay decrease. or b.) stay in nursing school and accept a demotion to CSS staff that would essentially cut my pay in half. I told them to stick both offers up their schemish bungholios. I packed my shit, returned my keys and walked out.

This happened on the 16th and oddly enough, the human resource manager (who I was tight with, I had recently gotten her husband a decent-paying job at a factory where my father is general foreman) somehow talked the core team, which consisted of my supervisor, her supervisor and our billing specialist into paying me until the 29th of October, since that is the date in which was 2 weeks after I gave my 2 weeks notice. Somehow, they agreed to this, so I was paid for doing nothing from the 15th until the 29th of October along with the 3 weeks FMLA prior to the 15th. ****'em. I had 200+ hours of PTO racked up that I never used because I never could because it was never granted because my absence always seemed to "affect business operations." They ate shit with that small portion of the situation and I don't freaking care.

I saved a nice chunk of change prior to this, so I am doing ok for the time being. I want to get some midterm stuff done for school before going full-fledged in terms of prowling for jobs.

My main concern is health insurance. I received a letter from COBRA that stated that in order to continue my current health insurance plan, I had to pay $500 + per month. What can I do in regards to health insurance? There has got to be a cheaper way to be covered. It isn't even a family plan for my fiancee (baby-momma) will not be married until March. Not to mention, all I want covered is Dr. visits and prescription refills. That's it. I'm not worried about anything else. Anyone have any advice?

Sorry in advance for any disorganization... I didn't proofread and didn't intend on rambling about as much as I did.


Sorry buddy, got to be tough in Iowa w/ the sparse population.

I wish you the best Rico

ChiefsNow
11-07-2012, 11:57 PM
Sorry to hear that man.

I'm used to it. I've already got a line on a job in Missoula working on firefighting planes. Emailed the resume. Should hear something tomorrow.


Get to say I lost my job on the day Obama got re elected.

rico
11-08-2012, 12:45 AM
Sorry buddy, got to be tough in Iowa w/ the sparse population.

I wish you the best Rico

Thanks dude.

FAX
11-08-2012, 01:01 AM
Sorry to hear about your misfortune, Mr. PunkinDrublic.

But it sounds like this is going to be a net positive for you. The most important thing you can do right now is focus on self-improvement ... health, education, art, whatever ...

It's sounds crazy I know, but life events like this seem to be highly purposeful ... if, that is, you take advantage of them. What seems like a step backward today into a world of uncertainty is probably simply a way to free your mind and attitude in preparation of something far better. That's why it's so important to stay focused on your goals even in the face of perceived adversity.

Good luck, man.

FAX

Dave Lane
11-08-2012, 03:36 AM
Somebody gets re-elected and you lose your job. This country is in good hands. IT'S A JOKE! **** OFF!

Sorry man. Do you know if you have options at this point?

He didn't get laid off he got fired. Dumbass comment.

Pushead2
11-08-2012, 05:10 AM
Hang in there bud!! Being unemployed is very worrisome and tough.

loochy
11-08-2012, 05:14 AM
So what do you or what can you do? I live in the area and I work at a VERY large company with many opportunities. Maybe I can help you find something.

3rd&48ers
11-08-2012, 05:17 AM
Sorry dude, Just go get your 99 weeks and start looking

GloryDayz
11-08-2012, 05:40 AM
Good luck in you job search. Suffice it to say, when you break through and have a better job, I hope you can look back on this and realize you're better off. I know bad management, I deal with it every day. I know know spineless leadership, I'm subject to it daily. I know weak people, they hide behind bad and incomplete decisions and solutions and claim they're forward thinking. Trust me, in this day and age, weak leadership is more pervasive than ever.

Good luck man....

Go Chiefs (next year!)...

Marcellus
11-08-2012, 06:04 AM
Sorry dude, Just go get your 99 weeks and start looking

Horrible fucking advice.

Go get a job, any job even if it is not in the field you want to end up in. It looks much better to a perspective employer if you are working somewhere rather than sitting on your unemployment benefits.

Its much easier to find a job when you have a job. Trust me. Dont milk the unemployment or the gap in your employment is going to look worse and worse.

I know what I am talking about on this.

theelusiveeightrop
11-08-2012, 06:04 AM
Very sorry. Good luck and Prayers to you.

Mr. Flopnuts
11-08-2012, 06:04 AM
Sorry dude, Just go get your 99 weeks and start looking

Those days are long past.

Good luck in you job search. Suffice it to say, when you break through and have a better job, I hope you can look back on this and realize you're better off. I know bad management, I deal with it every day. I know know spineless leadership, I'm subject to it daily. I know weak people, they hide behind bad and incomplete decisions and solutions and claim they're forward thinking. Trust me, in this day and age, weak leadership is more pervasive than ever.

Good luck man....

Go Chiefs (next year!)...

You know, I see this a lot, and as a guy who's been on both sides of the fence let me say something without you personally taking offense to it, because it's not directed at you.

People tend to overvalue their own worth, and undervalue the worth of others they work with. It's a natural thing for people to do, and is a part of the human condition of me first. No one is invaluable. There is always someone who can do what you do, and often times are willing to do it cheaper. That's not to say that your statement is invalid. Of course it's valid. But you hear a million times more people saying this, versus what can I do to better this company, and my role in it? How can I make my bosses job easier?

And I'll be honest, the ones who do the latter, tend to move up and become those "ineffective poor leaders" that everyone else talks about.

Again, not directed at you Glorydayz, just a general observation.

Hog Farmer
11-08-2012, 06:09 AM
I've never been unemployed in my life. The main reason is you have to know when to kiss ass and you have to know when to kick ass. Timing is everything.

loochy
11-08-2012, 06:18 AM
I've never been unemployed in my life. The main reason is you have to know when to kiss ass and you have to know when to kick ass. Timing is everything.

This. Even if someone is a butthole, you can't butt heads with bosses or leadership. You'll lose every single time.

gpsdude
11-08-2012, 06:21 AM
I was axed after 19 1/2 years. Thank god actually because everything has been great since. 1 month, new job, new house, new car. It was a great day

RockChalk
11-08-2012, 06:35 AM
What line of work are you looking for?

3rd&48ers
11-08-2012, 06:57 AM
Horrible ****ing advice.

Go get a job, any job even if it is not in the field you want to end up in. It looks much better to a perspective employer if you are working somewhere rather than sitting on your unemployment benefits.

Its much easier to find a job when you have a job. Trust me. Dont milk the unemployment or the gap in your employment is going to look worse and worse.

I know what I am talking about on this.

That advice depends on how hungry you and or your family is...
We don't know his whole situation.

Woodchuck
11-08-2012, 07:00 AM
This was my first job out of college and I had worked there for about 5 and a half years. I was doing so well in my old department and had even gotten rewarded but then at the end of July I got moved to a department where I was just constantly butting heads with managesment to the point where I was written up a couple of times in September. Try as I might I could not get moved to another department. Needless to say it was one of the most unpleasent work environments I've ever been in. Well around 3 today I get pulled into the VPs office and got canned. It's kind of a relief because I knew I wasn't fitting in very well with the managers I worked under. It was stressing me to the point where it was affecting my life outside of work. At the same time waking up tomorrow and not having a job freaks me out. i worked all through college and immediately found something after graduation. I was already looking for work while I was employed but it's hard to find time to schedule interviews when you are working all the time.

I'm not used to not having a job to go to. I signed up for unemployment already and have a little bit of money put away. I'm confident I'll find work but the uncertainty of when I'll get hired scares the **** out of me. What if most employers aren't hiring until after the holidays? Anyway just curious how some of you guys dealt with temporary unemployment.

I'm sorry man and I feel fo you. I was in a similar situation and got lucky enough to tranfer. However, when I was working for the asshole, I sometimes wished I would get fired to be free.

You are free!

My wife worked for Nationwide Insurance for 10 years and lost her job. She has a four year Bachelor's degree from UGA. She went on unemployment for two weeks and then took a job at Lowe's for $10/hour working the paint section. She worked there for six months. There were times when her hours were cut back to the point she was making less than she would have with unemployment.

The whole time she kept applying for stuff and finally she got hired at an eye clinic. She isn't using her degree but she works for good people, has solid hours, and makes $14 /hour. We still aren't making what we used to but it's better than nothing. Three years later she is still looking for jobs in her field.

My advice is to get out there and work and continue to apply for jobs until you get a break. It will keep you busy and will look better on your resume. Just think outside the box and be open minded dude.

Hang in there!

RedNFeisty
11-08-2012, 07:19 AM
Sorry about getting canned, that is a terrible feeling. At least you aren't butting heads with anyone anymore.

Department stores are hiring like crazy this time of year. At least that would get you through the holidays.

Woodchuck
11-08-2012, 07:23 AM
Ever deliver pizzas? You can make good money doing that and it's easy. You would also only work a few hours a night and you would have time to apply for jobs during the day. It's a good short term job.

PunkinDrublic
11-08-2012, 07:24 AM
About to head out. I've got a job fair to go to at 11. Resumes were posted last night. Really sucks that first night, I couldn't sleep. My situation is I'm 35 single with no wife or kids to take care of. For the past 5 and a half years since I finished college I've worked in the Mortgage industry. I started off doing collections and then moved up into foreclosure prevention which is a lot of helping borrowers with the government loan modifications and determining whether or not they could afford to stay in their homes.

Basically when I finished school in 07, the economy was so shitty that I took the first job I got offered from my colleges career fair.

3rd&48ers
11-08-2012, 07:24 AM
Ever deliver pizzas? You can make good money doing that and it's easy. You would also only work a few hours a night and you would have time to apply for jobs during the day. It's a good short term job.


I did that as a kid, just make sure you are packing heat... They will fire you if you have to kill someone but atleast you will be alive.

Mr. Plow
11-08-2012, 07:25 AM
My dad just lost his job. 47 years with the company. No notice. Joined his weekly scheduled conference call, they fired him. Well, not just him.....41 people in his position, 27 of them were fired that day.....but he was one of 3 people in the company with 40+ years. One of those 3 is my uncle, the other is a guy in Chicago.

It's been hard on him. Not sure how a person goes from doing the same job for 47 years to having nothing to do in a day.

3rd&48ers
11-08-2012, 07:26 AM
My dad just lost his job. 47 years with the company. No notice. Joined his weekly scheduled conference call, they fired him. Well, not just him.....41 people in his position, 27 of them were fired that day.....but he was one of 3 people in the company with 40+ years. One of those 3 is my uncle, the other is a guy in Chicago.

It's been hard on him. Not sure how a person goes from doing the same job for 47 years to having nothing to do in a day.

How old is your Dad?

Mr. Plow
11-08-2012, 07:28 AM
How old is your Dad?

68.

loochy
11-08-2012, 07:49 AM
About to head out. I've got a job fair to go to at 11. Resumes were posted last night. Really sucks that first night, I couldn't sleep. My situation is I'm 35 single with no wife or kids to take care of. For the past 5 and a half years since I finished college I've worked in the Mortgage industry. I started off doing collections and then moved up into foreclosure prevention which is a lot of helping borrowers with the government loan modifications and determining whether or not they could afford to stay in their homes.

Basically when I finished school in 07, the economy was so shitty that I took the first job I got offered from my colleges career fair.

Well, I retract my previous statement about opportunities at my company. We don't do anything related to that AT ALL.

Lzen
11-08-2012, 07:55 AM
Sry you lost your job, Punk. Stay motivated and keep looking. This sounds like it could very well be a blessing in disguise. Good luck, man.

Lzen
11-08-2012, 07:56 AM
Mr. Plow,
That sucks for your dad. Just curious, has he considered retirement?

loochy
11-08-2012, 08:00 AM
About to head out. I've got a job fair to go to at 11. Resumes were posted last night. Really sucks that first night, I couldn't sleep. My situation is I'm 35 single with no wife or kids to take care of. For the past 5 and a half years since I finished college I've worked in the Mortgage industry. I started off doing collections and then moved up into foreclosure prevention which is a lot of helping borrowers with the government loan modifications and determining whether or not they could afford to stay in their homes.

Basically when I finished school in 07, the economy was so shitty that I took the first job I got offered from my colleges career fair.

Do you mind moving? You'll probably be most likely to find something here since things are pretty good here, but be prepared to go where the work is. Don't rule out the Austin area - things are booming there.

3rd&48ers
11-08-2012, 08:02 AM
68.

Not ready to hang it up and enjoy life?

Mr. Plow
11-08-2012, 08:02 AM
Mr. Plow,
That sucks for your dad. Just curious, has he considered retirement?


God love my dad, but he would not know what to do with himself. He used to travel 3 weeks a month and just in the past 2 years dropped down to 1 week a month. He's constantly working. When he isn't working, he finds a job to do.

Fortunately for him, he has my mom's business to fall back on. Unfortunately for me, I have him riding my ass now. LMAO

Mr. Plow
11-08-2012, 08:04 AM
Not ready to hang it up and enjoy life?

I wish man. He's already talking about doing something he's wanted to do for a long time....getting a golf membership. So, his Xmas present from me is going to be just that and I'm going to force his butt out to play. Hopefully he'll learn to relax and enjoy himself.

3rd&48ers
11-08-2012, 08:05 AM
God love my dad, but he would not know what to do with himself. He used to travel 3 weeks a month and just in the past 2 years dropped down to 1 week a month. He's constantly working. When he isn't working, he finds a job to do.

Fortunately for him, he has my mom's business to fall back on. Unfortunately for me, I have him riding my ass now. LMAO

Love him and keep him busy, what I would give to be able to hang out with my Dad, Mine died when I was 15 years old and it's cruel how time makes all the things you remember about people fade away after a while..

3rd&48ers
11-08-2012, 08:05 AM
I wish man. He's already talking about doing something he's wanted to do for a long time....getting a golf membership. So, his Xmas present from me is going to be just that and I'm going to force his butt out to play. Hopefully he'll learn to relax and enjoy himself.

I hope so man..... Get him to sign up here, That will keep him busy LMAO

Armadillo Skin
11-08-2012, 08:07 AM
You can't keep a good man down. I've been fired numerous times. Most of the times from constant back stabbing from fellow employees to management about me. I guess management gets tired of hearing it and fires me. Well, anyway those tattle tails still work at those companies and I have moved on down the line to bigger and better things. When I look back on it what it hurt more than anything is my ego. Every time I got fired I got a ended up getting a pay raise. There's alot of negatives though. My resume looks like I'm a job hopper. I've had to cash in 401k's and I don't get any retirement from any company. I have progressed from repairing CNC mills and lathes to programming $144 million dollar combustion turbines. The worse part is the unknown. Just pick yourself, wipe the dirt off, put a smile on your face and step into a much better situation. I have headhunters calling me constantly and If I get fired again whoopee. The name of the game is marketable skills.

Mr. Plow
11-08-2012, 08:13 AM
Love him and keep him busy, what I would give to be able to hang out with my Dad, Mine died when I was 15 years old and it's cruel how time makes all the things you remember about people fade away after a while..

I hope so man..... Get him to sign up here, That will keep him busy LMAO

The one good thing is he is a craftsman. He likes building things, repairing things, flooring, walls, etc etc etc. We ironically just bought a new building for my mom's business and totally gutted it and are building it back up. So, he's been down there working and driving me crazy. LMAO

memyselfI
11-08-2012, 08:15 AM
Sorry to hear this but often times this turns out to be a blessing in disguise. Maybe not right away...

here is hoping it turns out that way for you. Sending good thoughts your way.

Frazod
11-08-2012, 08:30 AM
My dad just lost his job. 47 years with the company. No notice. Joined his weekly scheduled conference call, they fired him. Well, not just him.....41 people in his position, 27 of them were fired that day.....but he was one of 3 people in the company with 40+ years. One of those 3 is my uncle, the other is a guy in Chicago.

It's been hard on him. Not sure how a person goes from doing the same job for 47 years to having nothing to do in a day.

Fired on a fucking conference call after nearly 50 years of service? What lowlifes. :shake:

And good luck, PunkinDrublic. Things aren't great out there, but they're better than they were.

Predarat
11-08-2012, 09:25 AM
That is bullshit they would not move you back where you were. Best wishes and hope you find a job soon. I do hear things are better in Texas then other places as far as jobs are, though you still have to bust ass to find one.

Radar Chief
11-08-2012, 09:38 AM
Sorry to hear it PnD.
Tough times out there but Iím sure a guy of your character will land on his feet. :thumb:

stevieray
11-08-2012, 11:24 AM
I feel ya..keep your head up....at least you aren't fifty with twenty years as a self employed artist....I'm having trouble getting past the ONLINE application.

ChiefsNow
11-08-2012, 12:08 PM
I'm used to it. I've already got a line on a job in Missoula working on firefighting planes. Emailed the resume. Should hear something tomorrow.


Get to say I lost my job on the day Obama got re elected.

Cool, I got the job. Pays better than this one did. And being on older aircraft, I get to fab parts more often. I love fabbing.

Radar Chief
11-08-2012, 12:17 PM
Cool, I got the job. Pays better than this one did. And being on older aircraft, I get to fab parts more often. I love fabbing.

Awesome, and same here I just wish I were more creative with it.

Bowser
11-08-2012, 12:17 PM
This was my first job out of college and I had worked there for about 5 and a half years. I was doing so well in my old department and had even gotten rewarded but then at the end of July I got moved to a department where I was just constantly butting heads with managesment to the point where I was written up a couple of times in September. Try as I might I could not get moved to another department. Needless to say it was one of the most unpleasent work environments I've ever been in. Well around 3 today I get pulled into the VPs office and got canned. It's kind of a relief because I knew I wasn't fitting in very well with the managers I worked under. It was stressing me to the point where it was affecting my life outside of work. At the same time waking up tomorrow and not having a job freaks me out. i worked all through college and immediately found something after graduation. I was already looking for work while I was employed but it's hard to find time to schedule interviews when you are working all the time.

I'm not used to not having a job to go to. I signed up for unemployment already and have a little bit of money put away. I'm confident I'll find work but the uncertainty of when I'll get hired scares the **** out of me. What if most employers aren't hiring until after the holidays? Anyway just curious how some of you guys dealt with temporary unemployment.

Sorry to hear.

Take a long weekend. Go get drunk, raise hell, have a couple/three one night stands, and then hit the job trail hard on Monday.

Sounds like youhave a good work ethic, so that will pay dividends. Good luck.

TEX
11-08-2012, 12:31 PM
This was my first job out of college and I had worked there for about 5 and a half years. I was doing so well in my old department and had even gotten rewarded but then at the end of July I got moved to a department where I was just constantly butting heads with managesment to the point where I was written up a couple of times in September. Try as I might I could not get moved to another department. Needless to say it was one of the most unpleasent work environments I've ever been in. Well around 3 today I get pulled into the VPs office and got canned. It's kind of a relief because I knew I wasn't fitting in very well with the managers I worked under. It was stressing me to the point where it was affecting my life outside of work. At the same time waking up tomorrow and not having a job freaks me out. i worked all through college and immediately found something after graduation. I was already looking for work while I was employed but it's hard to find time to schedule interviews when you are working all the time.

I'm not used to not having a job to go to. I signed up for unemployment already and have a little bit of money put away. I'm confident I'll find work but the uncertainty of when I'll get hired scares the **** out of me. What if most employers aren't hiring until after the holidays? Anyway just curious how some of you guys dealt with temporary unemployment.

The MOST important thing is to keep a POSITIVE attitude about your situation. The good thing is it appears that you have a good work ethic and you're young and jobs for you are out there. Keep trying to get a new job. If you keep trying, you will find one.

3rd&48ers
11-08-2012, 01:16 PM
Take a little time off to calm down, do not appear panicked when looking for a job or desperate even if you are.

ChiefButthurt
11-08-2012, 02:25 PM
Do you have kids? Because if you don't have kids, you could arm yourself to the teeth and go back there and blow the manager's and vp's heads off. That's always an option. If life hands you a lemon, make lemonade. Bloody, bloody lemonade...

Figures you're from Colorado.

Iowanian
11-08-2012, 03:44 PM
Sorry to hear it.

I know three people who have had their positions eliminated in the past 2 days.


I wonder what recent event could spark a frenzy of job cuts.

PunkinDrublic
01-24-2013, 04:29 PM
Well this story has a happy ending, I start my new job tomorrow. Being on unemployment for 3 months is not fun. I missed having a routine. November and December were especially rough because most places weren't hiring until after the holidays. So glad I had money put away to tide me over until my unemployment got approved. It got pretty deflating at times. At one point I got rejected from three straight places I interviewed for, not to mention all the places wanting me to start at $11/hr. There were so many times I bombed on my interview because I was so stressed out about finding work I couldn't sleep the night before. Anyway I'm ready to start my new job.

3rd&48ers
01-24-2013, 04:31 PM
Well this story has a happy ending, I start my new job tomorrow. Being on unemployment for 3 months is not fun. I missed having a routine. November and December were especially rough because most places weren't hiring until after the holidays. So glad I had money put away to tide me over until my unemployment got approved. It got pretty deflating at times. At one point I got rejected from three straight places I interviewed for, not to mention all the places wanting me to start at $11/hr. There were so many times I bombed on my interview because I was so stressed out about finding work I couldn't sleep the night before. Anyway I'm ready to start my new job.

Congrats :thumb:

gblowfish
01-24-2013, 04:31 PM
Good for you! Way to hang in there. Kick ass at the new job.

AirForceChief
01-24-2013, 04:32 PM
Congrats...hope you hit the ground running and enjoy the new gig.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-24-2013, 04:33 PM
Well this story has a happy ending, I start my new job tomorrow. Being on unemployment for 3 months is not fun. I missed having a routine. November and December were especially rough because most places weren't hiring until after the holidays. So glad I had money put away to tide me over until my unemployment got approved. It got pretty deflating at times. At one point I got rejected from three straight places I interviewed for, not to mention all the places wanting me to start at $11/hr. There were so many times I bombed on my interview because I was so stressed out about finding work I couldn't sleep the night before. Anyway I'm ready to start my new job.

They're making you start on a Friday? That's bullshit. Call in sick... or just quit.

:)

But really, congrats!

Dallas Chief
01-24-2013, 04:37 PM
Well this story has a happy ending, I start my new job tomorrow. Being on unemployment for 3 months is not fun. I missed having a routine. November and December were especially rough because most places weren't hiring until after the holidays. So glad I had money put away to tide me over until my unemployment got approved. It got pretty deflating at times. At one point I got rejected from three straight places I interviewed for, not to mention all the places wanting me to start at $11/hr. There were so many times I bombed on my interview because I was so stressed out about finding work I couldn't sleep the night before. Anyway I'm ready to start my new job.

Never saw this thread the first time around. Sorry to hear your troubles but glad it all worked out. Didn't know you were a vet either. So a huge thanks!!!! Was it you I hung out with at Austin Ave in Plano a few years back? I believe so. Anyway grats man!:thumb:

Bwana
01-24-2013, 04:38 PM
Good for you dude.

PunkinDrublic
01-24-2013, 04:45 PM
They're making you start on a Friday? That's bullshit. Call in sick... or just quit.

:)

But really, congrats!

They asked me if I'd be willing to start tomorrow and I said yes. I've had more than enough time sitting around my apartment when I wasn't going to interviews and job fairs.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-24-2013, 04:46 PM
They asked me if I'd be willing to start tomorrow and I said yes. I've had more than enough time sitting around my apartment when I wasn't going to interviews and job fairs.

Yeah... plus I was joking.

:)

Good for you.

DaFace
01-24-2013, 04:51 PM
Congrats, man! In today's job market, 3 months ain't even bad (though I'm sure it felt like it was).

On an unrelated note, this thread gave me a little appreciation for morphius's addition of the start date to the lounge view. Instead of thinking "Oh, crap, someone else got laid off," I thought "Hey...this was bumped, so I bet it's good news."

Buck
01-24-2013, 05:28 PM
Dude awesome.

Stone Cold E.T. gives you a hell yeah!

bevischief
01-24-2013, 05:33 PM
Congrats. I have about 7-8 months on my contract and have already started looking.

Pasta Giant Meatball
01-24-2013, 05:34 PM
Congrats man

BigMeatballDave
01-24-2013, 05:35 PM
Congrats.

mlyonsd
01-24-2013, 05:47 PM
They're making you start on a Friday? That's bullshit. Call in sick... or just quit.

:)

But really, congrats!ROFL

But anyway, congrats man.

bevischief
01-24-2013, 05:52 PM
I once interviewed for a job at 10pm. I got the job.

BWillie
01-24-2013, 05:54 PM
So how do you get a job after getting canned? I don't see how on earth that works unless you lie. Do you not just put them down on the resume? Say you quit?

If I got fired I'd just be really mysterious and evasive. If they asked me my work experience I'd just say that I have a very unique set of skills that makes me a night mare for ppl like you.

Buehler445
01-24-2013, 05:57 PM
Hell yeah! Good work bud.

EagleRob
01-24-2013, 06:26 PM
In the opposite position - tomorrow I have to terminate an employee for cause. He's a good guy but doesn't know the technical details he needs in order to do the job well. I'm a contract lead and my customer wants him out. Never had to let someone go before. I'm actually losing sleep over it this week as I'm putting him in the position of having to live my biggest fear - unemployed. I don't expect any sympathy but just throwing it out there that its no picnic being on the other side of the table. I hired this guy, trained him, believed in him, tried to help him through the struggles. Tomorrow I will have to give him the shock of immediate termination and the walk of shame to the lobby. Not my way to do it but more a company policy.

sedated
01-24-2013, 06:32 PM
In the opposite position - tomorrow I have to terminate an employee for cause.

The first time I fired someone, I was a wreck. You get used to it. I ended up loving it. Lickily, I got fired myself before I could fire anyone who wasnt a complete loser.

EagleRob
01-24-2013, 06:35 PM
The first time I fired someone, I was a wreck. You get used to it. I ended up loving it. Lickily, I got fired myself before I could fire anyone who wasnt a complete loser.

Thanks - Part of me hopes it never gets easier. That said, you and your avatar made me a little happier.

Buehler445
01-24-2013, 06:52 PM
In the opposite position - tomorrow I have to terminate an employee for cause. He's a good guy but doesn't know the technical details he needs in order to do the job well. I'm a contract lead and my customer wants him out. Never had to let someone go before. I'm actually losing sleep over it this week as I'm putting him in the position of having to live my biggest fear - unemployed. I don't expect any sympathy but just throwing it out there that its no picnic being on the other side of the table. I hired this guy, trained him, believed in him, tried to help him through the struggles. Tomorrow I will have to give him the shock of immediate termination and the walk of shame to the lobby. Not my way to do it but more a company policy.

Boo. But that's part of the buisness. The best you can do is learn from it and work to make it never happen again.

Sorter
01-24-2013, 06:54 PM
In the opposite position - tomorrow I have to terminate an employee for cause. He's a good guy but doesn't know the technical details he needs in order to do the job well. I'm a contract lead and my customer wants him out. Never had to let someone go before. I'm actually losing sleep over it this week as I'm putting him in the position of having to live my biggest fear - unemployed. I don't expect any sympathy but just throwing it out there that its no picnic being on the other side of the table. I hired this guy, trained him, believed in him, tried to help him through the struggles. Tomorrow I will have to give him the shock of immediate termination and the walk of shame to the lobby. Not my way to do it but more a company policy.

Just do it professionally and make it short.

Frazod
01-24-2013, 07:00 PM
In the opposite position - tomorrow I have to terminate an employee for cause. He's a good guy but doesn't know the technical details he needs in order to do the job well. I'm a contract lead and my customer wants him out. Never had to let someone go before. I'm actually losing sleep over it this week as I'm putting him in the position of having to live my biggest fear - unemployed. I don't expect any sympathy but just throwing it out there that its no picnic being on the other side of the table. I hired this guy, trained him, believed in him, tried to help him through the struggles. Tomorrow I will have to give him the shock of immediate termination and the walk of shame to the lobby. Not my way to do it but more a company policy.

You've got to do what you've got to do. It shouldn't be easy, and it speaks to your character that it bothers you. I certainly don't envy you.

Strongside
01-24-2013, 07:00 PM
I recently relocated to Kansas City from Arizona due to my S.O. getting a new job here. I left my first job out of college after being there for 3 years. I liked the job, but the pay was horrible, even after 3 years. After coming here, the market for my profession was pretty bleak. Luckily, I was able to freelance for a while until a recruiter saw my website and portfolio...a twist of fate now has me working my dream job in a city that I love for more money than I know what to do with. Sometimes adversity is just a blessing in disguise. Keep your head up and stay scrappy...good things will come your way.

Good luck, brotha.

Sorter
01-24-2013, 07:03 PM
You've got to do what you've got to do. It shouldn't be easy, and it speaks to your character that it bothers you. I certainly don't envy you.

I don't think anybody would enjoy firing someone that didn't truly deserve it unless they were an asshole.

Frazod
01-24-2013, 07:04 PM
I don't think anybody would enjoy firing someone that didn't truly deserve it unless they were an asshole.

Unfortunately, a lot of assholes are in that job.

theelusiveeightrop
01-24-2013, 07:04 PM
Sorry dude. Prayers.

tecumseh
01-24-2013, 07:06 PM
Somebody gets re-elected and you lose your job. This country is in good hands. IT'S A JOKE! **** OFF!

Sorry man. Do you know if you have options at this point?

somebody gets re-elected and you quickly find a new job. This country is in good hands. and setsuna is a hand job.

EagleRob
01-24-2013, 07:08 PM
Thanks all, I won't enjoy it and will remember that this is not about me - its about him. Great tips that I will keep in mind tomorrow.

Strongside
01-24-2013, 07:09 PM
Didn't originally realize that this was an old thread that had been updated with a happy ending. Congrats, buddy!

Sorter
01-24-2013, 07:17 PM
Unfortunately, a lot of assholes are in that job.

That is always disheartening to hear.

Personally, I'd never take joy in removing a man/woman from their means of income without good reason.

Pants
01-24-2013, 09:13 PM
Well this story has a happy ending, I start my new job tomorrow. Being on unemployment for 3 months is not fun. I missed having a routine. November and December were especially rough because most places weren't hiring until after the holidays. So glad I had money put away to tide me over until my unemployment got approved. It got pretty deflating at times. At one point I got rejected from three straight places I interviewed for, not to mention all the places wanting me to start at $11/hr. There were so many times I bombed on my interview because I was so stressed out about finding work I couldn't sleep the night before. Anyway I'm ready to start my new job.

Congrats, dude. Here's to the new job working out for you.

DenverDanChiefsFan
01-24-2013, 09:21 PM
Congrats! My unemployment is just over 9 months. But at least things are starting to look up. Have had several interviews this week with a couple second/third interviews scheduled for next week.

Stad
01-24-2013, 09:47 PM
I got laid off couple weeks ago as well. Just waiting for my E.I to come now.

Congrats on the new job btw!

PunkinDrublic
01-24-2013, 10:22 PM
So how do you get a job after getting canned? I don't see how on earth that works unless you lie. Do you not just put them down on the resume? Say you quit?

If I got fired I'd just be really mysterious and evasive. If they asked me my work experience I'd just say that I have a very unique set of skills that makes me a night mare for ppl like you.

What I did was call my old companies HR department and ask how they give references. I was told they don't go into details, they just verify dates of employment. I also gave references of managers and co workers that I had a good working relationship with. But yeah you pretty much have to lie and pray that they don't investigate too much. I tell companies I got laid off.

silver5liter
01-24-2013, 10:29 PM
Good deal. I just graduated from Missouri Western last month and am looking for a full time position. Luckily for me though i am freelancing for a company now, so that keeps a steady pay check coming until i find on

PunkinDrublic
01-24-2013, 10:44 PM
Good deal. I just graduated from Missouri Western last month and am looking for a full time position. Luckily for me though i am freelancing for a company now, so that keeps a steady pay check coming until i find on

Don't do like I did and take the first job offered to you from your schools job fair like I did. I worked for a mortgage company right in the middle of the housing crises. Five years of doing collections and processing loan modifications while good for a steady paycheck and benefits was a living hell at times.

silver5liter
01-24-2013, 11:11 PM
Don't do like I did and take the first job offered to you from your schools job fair like I did. I worked for a mortgage company right in the middle of the housing crises. Five years of doing collections and processing loan modifications while good for a steady paycheck and benefits was a living hell at times.


I dont plan on it, even though its hard to tell people you got offered a job and turned it down with out having one. I have an interview tomorrow but have no idea what the pay grade is. Guess I will see tomorrow.

Strongside
01-25-2013, 07:26 AM
Punkin's first day didn't go so well...

NSFW for language.

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Saul Good
01-25-2013, 08:00 AM
Good deal. I just graduated from Missouri Western last month and am looking for a full time position. Luckily for me though i am freelancing for a company now, so that keeps a steady pay check coming until i find on

What field?

If anyone in IT is looking for work, PM me. (Overland Park, KS)

Dayze
01-25-2013, 08:00 AM
I've been laid off twice in the last 4yrs. once because the company went bankrupt and closed the office completely out of the blue. the 2nd because we didn't get the anticipated $50M in contracs from the EPA we expected. and in project based environments, when them PGM/Margin is eroding, the first thing they cut is expenses. and you're an expense, not an asset.

oh well. I hated that job anyway, so while nervous about getting laid off, I was relieved. I dreaded every day of that job.

silver5liter
01-25-2013, 10:37 PM
What field?

If anyone in IT is looking for work, PM me. (Overland Park, KS)
Graphic design, thanks for asking though

Smed1065
01-25-2013, 10:50 PM
I don't think anybody would enjoy firing someone that didn't truly deserve it unless they were an asshole.

You are no fridge!

RunKC
01-25-2013, 11:54 PM
I too have wondered if being fired would be horrible on your resume.

One of my best friends is a comm major who did his job well, but the company was small and needed a more experience guy. Only there 3 months in his first job out of school. Now he's been 4 months without any luck and I'm not sure what to tell him.

It's brutal out there.

ChiefsNow
01-26-2013, 04:24 AM
Thanks all, I won't enjoy it and will remember that this is not about me - its about him. Great tips that I will keep in mind tomorrow.

How did the firing go? You got the taste of blood now. Who's next? :p

EagleRob
01-26-2013, 05:17 AM
How did the firing go? You got the taste of blood now. Who's next? :p

Thanks for asking. I took all of the advice. Made it quick and just delivered the news, let it sink in for a few seconds, then gave him a short insight into the decision. Had my govt customer clear the office so he could collect his belongings and walked him out. He had a clue it was coming but was disappointed. Nice guy, but he couldn't cut it. Other employees thanked me afterward.

CoMoChief
01-26-2013, 05:32 AM
Most large corporations HR depts will only verify dates of employment. I don't even think they can say if "person A" was "fired/terminated" or not...just verify dates of employment.