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Von Dumbass
11-08-2012, 09:07 AM
http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php#grudencoaching

WalterFootball.com has learned from sources that former Oakland Raiders and Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Jon Gruden is eyeing a return to coaching. Sources around him have shared that he is looking into different assistant coaches around the league and seeing what their potential availability will be after the 2012 season.

One coach that Gruden is said to be interested in is fired Philadelphia Eagles defensive coordinator Juan Castillo. The long-time Eagles assistant was on the same staff with Gruden in Philadelphia under former head coach Ray Rhodes. Castillo was an offensive assistant and tight ends coach while Gruden was the offensive coordinator. Following Gruden's departure for Oakland, Castillo remained to work under Andy Reid as a tight ends coach, offensive line coach and defensive coordinator. Reid and Gruden have also coached together, and Castillo carries a significant endorsement from Reid.

Other coaches whom Gruden could be interested include former special teams coordinator Rich Bisaccia. If the Chargers fire Norv Turner and his staff, Bisaccia could potentially land with Gruden. The two had a close relationship in Tampa Bay (2002-2008), and Bisaccia was always extremely loyal to Gruden.

Gruden last coached in 2008 with the Buccaneers. He is 95-81 in his career as a head coach with a 5-4 record in the postseason. Gruden led Tampa Bay to its lone championship in Super Bowl XXVII. Since getting fired by the Bucs, Gruden has stayed active, learning different offenses and defenses in pro and college football. He spent time with Chip Kelly learning Oregon's spread attack, so if Gruden returns to the NFL, he could feature a new and unique offense.

Sources have said that Gruden's return to coaching is dependent on it being a perfect situation. He isn't interested in smaller-market teams like those he has coached at previously. Gruden wants a big-market team with good ownership and some talent on the roster. Thus, teams like Dallas, Philadelphia and the New York Jets could be potential landing spots if they make a change.

Sources have said if Gruden doesn't love the opportunity, he's perfectly happy to continue his work with ESPN on Monday Night Football. However, they indicated that this year has been different than the past few, and Gruden has more motivation to return to coaching in 2013.

R8RFAN
11-08-2012, 09:08 AM
He hates KC and would never go there...

Frosty
11-08-2012, 09:09 AM
Jay Gruden - possibly

John Gruden - no

DMAC
11-08-2012, 09:14 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7nvv1VN0G1qkmqj8o3_250.gif

Radar Chief
11-08-2012, 09:16 AM
He hates KC and would never go there...

Lets hope so.

Steron
11-08-2012, 09:18 AM
Gruden wants a big-market team with good ownership....So much for KC

MIAdragon
11-08-2012, 09:23 AM
The guy wanked it to Tim Tebow, no thanks.

WhiteWhale
11-08-2012, 09:26 AM
I don't want Gruden, because his track record says he'll get a 30 year old journeyman to play QB for us.

DaKCMan AP
11-08-2012, 09:28 AM
Do not want.

NewChief
11-08-2012, 09:29 AM
He's coming to Arkansas next year... at least that's what the morons around here think.

ChiefsCountry
11-08-2012, 09:29 AM
Philly sounds perfect for him.

DaKCMan AP
11-08-2012, 09:30 AM
He's coming to Arkansas next year... at least that's what the morons around here think.

And Vols fans think he's heading to Tennessee.

King_Chief_Fan
11-08-2012, 09:32 AM
I don't want Gruden, because his track record says he'll get a 30 year old journeyman to play QB for us.

well, there was that and the constant owning of the Chiefs

Hoover
11-08-2012, 09:35 AM
I'm always hot or cold on Gruden, but what I like is that he seems to be thinking about what his staff would look like if he returns. This is my biggest complaint about the Chiefs, we hire head coaches who never give a thought to what they want the entire staff to look like. Gruden goes up a notch if this is all true.

Woodchuck
11-08-2012, 09:49 AM
I can't see him coming to KC. It's just too big of a mess.

Dicky McElephant
11-08-2012, 09:49 AM
Philly sounds perfect for him.

I could see him taking over the Jets.

theelusiveeightrop
11-08-2012, 09:53 AM
I like my head coach intense. but not that intense. Pass. He is not interested in KC anyway.

kepp
11-08-2012, 09:53 AM
And Vols fans think he's heading to Tennessee.

Actually, he's going to be replacing Pinkel.

TEX
11-08-2012, 09:59 AM
I like my head coach intense. but not that intense. Pass. He is not interested in KC anyway.

I'd take him - but you're right - he's not interested in KC and I can't blame him.

Deberg_1990
11-08-2012, 01:29 PM
He would be perfect for KC. He prefers aging veteran QBs

Chocolate Hog
11-08-2012, 01:31 PM
No thanks would rather hire his brother.

DaWolf
11-08-2012, 01:42 PM
The Eagles make perfect sense. He used to work there, and Reid is likely out after this season...

BigMeatballDave
11-08-2012, 01:46 PM
Pass

Rausch
11-08-2012, 02:02 PM
Pass

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!

R8RFAN
11-08-2012, 02:18 PM
Gruden was always the first to get there in Oakland and the last one to leave , they say he was there at 4 am every day

RedNFeisty
11-08-2012, 02:19 PM
I would love to see him in KC. Love the intensity he brings to the game.

Frosty
11-08-2012, 02:21 PM
Gruden was always the first to get there in Oakland and the last one to leave , they say he was there at 4 am every day

Gunther was that way in KC.

Didn't help.

Fruit Ninja
11-08-2012, 02:26 PM
Gunther was that way in KC.

Didn't help.

Gunther doesnt have a superbowl win as a head coach. Gruden does. He also turned around the ****ing raiders.

theelusiveeightrop
11-08-2012, 02:33 PM
Gruden was always the first to get there in Oakland and the last one to leave , they say he was there at 4 am every day

No doubt he is a hard worker. An OUTSTANDING worker.

Chris Meck
11-08-2012, 02:52 PM
No chance of Jon.

Decent chance of Jay Gruden. In which case, Barkley is the best choice for QB.

L.A. Chieffan
11-08-2012, 03:05 PM
I'd take him all day. The dude knows his shit.

mcaj22
11-08-2012, 03:12 PM
i heard that Gruden the coach is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy different than Gruden the TV personality we see every week

is that true?

saphojunkie
11-08-2012, 04:07 PM
No chance of Jon.

Decent chance of Jay Gruden. In which case, Barkley is the best choice for QB.

God I don't want Barkley. He's a house for midgets.

Buehler445
11-08-2012, 04:13 PM
i heard that Gruden the coach is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy different than Gruden the TV personality we see every week

is that true?

I'd imagine that's right. ESPN is a giant gimmick.

Dave Lane
11-08-2012, 04:43 PM
I'm not a big fan of retread coaches but for Gruden I might be able to make an exception.

DeezNutz
11-08-2012, 04:51 PM
I'm not a big fan of retread coaches but for Gruden I might be able to make an exception.

Remember when we hated spread QBs?

NJChiefsFan
11-08-2012, 04:53 PM
He hates KC and would never go there...

Good.

blaise
11-08-2012, 04:56 PM
I felt like he was sort of slyly campaigning for the Cowboys job earlier this year when he did their game. He kept saying they had so much talent. Like, "Oh, I could win with these guys."

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-08-2012, 05:53 PM
"I like this Tyler Palko!!!"

Jiu Jitsu Jon
11-08-2012, 06:33 PM
I'd take him over Dennis Allen anyday. Come back home, Gruden. Mr. Burns is gone and we welcome you with open arms.

Al Bundy
11-08-2012, 06:43 PM
You guys want the guy who WILLINGLY passed on Aaron Rodgers for Carnell Fucking Williams?

listopencil
11-08-2012, 06:46 PM
Gruden to the Jets, starts Tim Tebow. Hilarity ensues.

Shox
11-08-2012, 06:59 PM
He will NOT come if Pioli is still here. Very long shot even if he is gone. Gruden knows the game. He would be one of my top choices.

chiefzilla1501
11-08-2012, 07:00 PM
I like Chucky as a head coach, but for as much credit as he gets for being a QB guru, what exactly did he do in Tampa to earn that distinction?

Jiu Jitsu Jon
11-08-2012, 07:06 PM
You guys want the guy who WILLINGLY passed on Aaron Rodgers for Carnell ****ing Williams?

Not sure if you're talking to me or not...but it would be an improvement over what we have. Wasn't Rodgers picked late in the draft?

Chocolate Hog
11-08-2012, 07:08 PM
Remember when we hated spread QBs?

Have we had any guys who never lined up under center in college succeed yet?

CLX
11-08-2012, 07:12 PM
Where is Hank Stram when you are looking for retreads?

An objective view might be that even where Stram is currently he just might be a better HC coach than what we have.

Al Bundy
11-08-2012, 07:12 PM
Not sure if you're talking to me or not...but it would be an improvement over what we have. Wasn't Rodgers picked late in the draft?

In the 20's.. but Gruden told him he would draft him if he was still there at 5.

Chocolate Hog
11-08-2012, 07:13 PM
How much input did Gruden have in the Bucs draft? Most of those were putrid.

Jiu Jitsu Jon
11-08-2012, 07:13 PM
In the 20's.. but Gruden told him he would draft him if he was still there at 5.

I'd still take Gruden.

R8RFAN
11-08-2012, 07:20 PM
Gunther was that way in KC.

Didn't help.
He turned us into a winner again

Jiu Jitsu Jon
11-08-2012, 07:22 PM
He turned us into a winner again

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Come home, Jon.

R8RFAN
11-08-2012, 07:24 PM
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Come home, Jon.

My favorite coach ever

Al Bundy
11-08-2012, 07:39 PM
How much input did Gruden have in the Bucs draft? Most of those were putrid.

He was the deciding factor in every one of them but the Gaines Adams pick.

MeatRock
11-08-2012, 07:41 PM
Gruden drafted Sabby Piscitelli in the 2nd round in 2007 for the Buc's. So what does that tell you about his drafting history. ROFL

GloryDayz
11-08-2012, 07:44 PM
I think we're close to begging, how choosy can we be?

Al Bundy
11-08-2012, 07:47 PM
Gruden drafted Sabby Piscitelli in the 2nd round in 2007 for the Buc's. So what does that tell you about his drafting history. ROFL

Nahh you put that on Monte Kiffin....

J Diddy
11-08-2012, 07:48 PM
Gruden to KC would be bad

clyde05
11-08-2012, 11:35 PM
Gruden to KC would be bad

Any coach is going to be a improvement to what we have now!

Brock
11-08-2012, 11:39 PM
If he decides to come back, he can go almost anywhere he wants. This shithole of a team isn't going to be high on anyone's list.

DTLB58
11-09-2012, 08:41 AM
I think we're close to begging, how choosy can we be?

Not if Clark fires everyone and starts over new with a GM and coach that are on the same page, get to draft their own QB and move on from there with the current roster and new picks.

Count Alex's Losses
01-01-2013, 02:50 PM
Welp.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/150942_498302090192707_443721159_n.jpg

fairladyZ
01-01-2013, 02:53 PM
who is that guy? i saw his tweet this morning while searching but just played it off as a joke like the "my cousin's relator saw jon gruden browsing homes for sale ads in KC"

Crush
01-01-2013, 02:54 PM
Welp.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/150942_498302090192707_443721159_n.jpg

The moron might be more credible if he could fucking spell Gruden's name right.

htismaqe
01-01-2013, 02:54 PM
I think we're close to begging, how choosy can we be?

This.

jd1020
01-01-2013, 02:55 PM
Welp.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/150942_498302090192707_443721159_n.jpg

He said it 3 times so it must be true!

tk13
01-01-2013, 02:56 PM
THE DEAL IS DONE.

mlyonsd
01-01-2013, 02:57 PM
We need a status update on the Clark's jet.

Thig Lyfe
01-01-2013, 02:57 PM
Welp.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/150942_498302090192707_443721159_n.jpg

http://gifs.gifbin.com/012012/1326910583_larry_david_reaction.gif

chiefzilla1501
01-01-2013, 02:58 PM
Gruden would be a phenomenal hire.

jd1020
01-01-2013, 02:58 PM
Need someone to do some digging and figure out everything they can about this John Greuden.

Frosty
01-01-2013, 02:59 PM
Welp.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/150942_498302090192707_443721159_n.jpg

I don't speak Idiot, so need some help here. Is he claiming that John Gruden is the next coach or John Gruden's brother (assuming Jay) is? I wouldn't mind Jay Gruden but don't really want Chucky.

Dunerdr
01-01-2013, 02:59 PM
Gruden geno a 30 year old journeyman and all is well in the new year! Not to mention chucky would bitch slap pioli into next year.

chiefzilla1501
01-01-2013, 03:00 PM
Gruden geno a 30 year old journeyman and all is well in the new year! Not to mention chucky would bitch slap pioli into next year.

Gruden and geno would be a great match. Gruden in his time off became a huge fan of the spread. I am excited to see what offense he brings to the table.

OnTheWarpath58
01-01-2013, 03:02 PM
Welp.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/150942_498302090192707_443721159_n.jpg

So yesterday - while Clark Hunt was firing RAC and going on his PR rounds, had time to interview and hire Jay Gruden. Who is preparing for a playoff game.

Without anyone finding out about it.

Ok, gang.

Lprechaun
01-01-2013, 03:08 PM
Im on the Gruden bandwagon. I heard down here in Tampa (the year they went to the Super Bowl is the first year I lived here after leaving KC) that it was Dungys team and that Gruden lucked into the SuperBowl.
Well, his former team went to the SuperBowl the same year, and its not easy task to take ANY team to the ship. Coaching changes tend to change teams culture so long as the GM isnt the culture. He is a winner, knows football on both sides of the ball and is young enough to be here for a long time.
His offenses are extremely difficult to understand, grasp, execute... but when they are they are good game plans.

Dunerdr
01-01-2013, 03:11 PM
Is the tweet talking about jon or jay?

OnTheWarpath58
01-01-2013, 03:15 PM
Is the tweet talking about jon or jay?

If you actually read the tweet - which most people apparently haven't - JAY.

jd1020
01-01-2013, 03:17 PM
If you actually read the tweet - which most people apparently haven't - JAY.

When did Jay have the time to sit down with the Chiefs and decide he's taking the job?

OnTheWarpath58
01-01-2013, 03:18 PM
When did Jay have the time to sit down with the Chiefs and decide he's taking the job?

Exactly my point in my post ay 3:02.

fairladyZ
01-01-2013, 03:19 PM
the tweet is talking about jon gruden not jay... hence john grudens brother was at this guys party and said he was coming to KC..

so it's either meaning that jon is coming to KC or the drunk brother at this guys NYE party is coming to KC for some BBQ

siberian khatru
01-01-2013, 03:21 PM
Given how most NFL coaches work, I would be surprised if Jay Gruden was at a New Year's Eve party with a playoff game coming up Saturday afternoon. Either he'd be in his office going over film or at home briefly to be with his family.

Chocolate Hog
01-01-2013, 03:22 PM
Id be cool with Jay Gruden but im sure Clark wont interview him.

Dave Lane
01-01-2013, 03:24 PM
If you actually read the tweet - which most people apparently haven't - JAY.

Really could be taken either way. I read it as John but it could be Jay.

jd1020
01-01-2013, 03:25 PM
Given how most NFL coaches work, I would be surprised if Jay Gruden was at a New Year's Eve party with a playoff game coming up Saturday afternoon. Either he'd be in his office going over film or at home briefly to be with his family.

I think we are giving this source too much credit.

The name tag read Jai Greuden.

Dunerdr
01-01-2013, 03:42 PM
If you actually read the tweet - which most people apparently haven't - JAY.

I read it as Jon just getting a feel for what everyone else thinks.

MotherfuckerJones
01-01-2013, 03:44 PM
Um the spelling is off and how does he know he's Jon's brother? He was probably bullshitting and was drunk

Thig Lyfe
01-01-2013, 03:44 PM
the tweet is talking about jon gruden not jay... hence john grudens brother was at this guys party and said he was coming to KC..

so it's either meaning that jon is coming to KC or the drunk brother at this guys NYE party is coming to KC for some BBQ

http://www.buzzhunt.co.uk/wp-content/2010/12/dolphin-girl.gif

aturnis
01-01-2013, 03:48 PM
Gruden is hands down one of the best options out there for the Chiefs. Glad to hear Reid is nearly off the market. DO NOT WANT. Hope we get one of the best guys for our situation...

BigMeatballDave
01-01-2013, 03:50 PM
Gruden is hands down one of the best options out there for the Chiefs. Glad to hear Reid is nearly off the market. DO NOT WANT. Hope we get one of the best guys for our situation...

Why would you take Gruden but not Reid?

CLX
01-01-2013, 03:52 PM
Why would you take Gruden but not Reid?

Reid hasn't shown much and would most likely bring Vick with him.

BigMeatballDave
01-01-2013, 03:52 PM
Reid hasn't shown much and would most likely bring Vick with him.

ROFL Okay...

CLX
01-01-2013, 03:54 PM
ROFL Okay...

Laugh like you have no sense. I doubt if Reid comes to KC but if he does how much do you doubt that Vick will be here soon after?

aturnis
01-01-2013, 03:57 PM
If you actually read the tweet - which most people apparently haven'. t - JAY.

Pretty sure it's saying that Jon Gruden. seemed brother told them that Jon would be the new coach...

Also makes plenty of sense, Jon could have been interviewed at anytime this past season. I'm sure Clark has known for some time that Romeo would not be back..

whoman69
01-01-2013, 03:58 PM
Of all the retread coaches, I think he would be the most hungry and most likely to beat the odds of a coach winning a SB with another team. If you see on his QB camp he is sort of self depricating the fact he is an out of work coach. He wants to get back in the game and prove himself. He would also be the opposite of Romeo in demeanor but with the respect of the players that Haley could never have.

OnTheWarpath58
01-01-2013, 04:00 PM
Jon Gruden's brother (JAY) is at my NYE party and says he (Jon Gruden's brother, JAY) is the Chiefs' next HC.

aturnis
01-01-2013, 04:01 PM
Dave;9264913]Why would you take Gruden but not Reid?

The argument that Reid was propped up by Jim Johnson is a strong one. What did he ever do without him? What was the strength of his early successful Eagles teams?

BigMeatballDave
01-01-2013, 04:02 PM
Laugh like you have no sense. I doubt if Reid comes to KC but if he does how much do you doubt that Vick will be here soon after?

Are you that dumb as to believe he would bring Vick?

aturnis
01-01-2013, 04:04 PM
Jon Gruden's brother (JAY) is at my NYE party and says he (Jon Gruden's brother, JAY) is the Chiefs' next HC.

There is nothing there to suggest that "he" doesn't refer to the former rather than the latter...

aturnis
01-01-2013, 04:08 PM
Are you that dumb as to believe ve he would bring Vick?

I agree. Vick had Reid's back, strongly yesterday in interviews, but doubt Reid was a fan of Vick's choice to return to his "stupid" QB playing style. That is why he is going to Arizona to reunite with Kolb...

Dunerdr
01-01-2013, 04:13 PM
There is nothing there to suggest that "he" doesn't refer to the former rather than the latter...

It can be read both ways but i read it as Jon. Either way this is probably someone blowing smoke.

WhiteWhale
01-01-2013, 04:15 PM
Wherever Gruden goes, Alex Smith will follow.

Anyone who wants to build through the draft or draft and develop a QB should think long and hard before endorsing a guy with Gruden's track record.

rico
01-01-2013, 04:21 PM
Gruden, during the MNF game vs. the Steelers, did seem as if he were auditioning for something at times. I dunno, maybe it was just me.

MotherfuckerJones
01-01-2013, 04:23 PM
Jon is not coaching the chiefs lol

MotherfuckerJones
01-01-2013, 04:23 PM
Pioli is gona get in the way of a real coach

something cooler
01-01-2013, 04:25 PM
Wherever Gruden goes, Alex Smith will follow.

Anyone who wants to build through the draft or draft and develop a QB should think long and hard before endorsing a guy with Gruden's track record.

I'll do Alex Smith if it means Jon gruden, I'll trust any decision he makes.

aturnis
01-01-2013, 04:36 PM
Wherever Gruden goes, Alex Smith will follow.

Anyone who wants to build through the draft or draft and develop a QB should think long and hard before endorsing a guy with Gruden's track record.

Not to mention that Gruden is the only guy who called Russel Wilson's success. He was ADAMANT about the likelihood of Wilson's ability.

aturnis
01-01-2013, 04:40 PM
Pioli is gona get in the way of a real coach

Why would Pioli have any impact on a coaches decision to come to KC? Not only does he have no say, but no power over the head coach or team other than scouting and collecting talent(new coach reports directly to Clark), but it has been said that the new head coach may have a say in Pioli's future.

MotherfuckerJones
01-01-2013, 04:41 PM
Why would gruden go to philadelphia? They have no QB like KC. In SD Rivers is deteriorating by the week

chiefzilla1501
01-01-2013, 04:45 PM
Wherever Gruden goes, Alex Smith will follow.

Anyone who wants to build through the draft or draft and develop a QB should think long and hard before endorsing a guy with Gruden's track record.

Gruden won't be the same coach. He's acknowledged the growing importance of a quarterback and has studied up on college and high school spread offenses. He has extensively studied chip Kellys offense and the two are very close.

One of the main reasons he's high on my list.

MotherfuckerJones
01-01-2013, 04:46 PM
This KC search is so quiet. Damn you Clark just let it known you're after Gruden

Von Dumbass
01-01-2013, 04:47 PM
Gruden is a huge Tebow fan. Would be cool if he built an offense around him wherever he goes.

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JASONSAUTO
01-01-2013, 04:48 PM
Gruden is a huge Tebow fan. Would be cool if he built an offense around him wherever he goes.

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jd1020
01-01-2013, 04:48 PM
Has Gruden ever bad mouthed a QB?

MotherfuckerJones
01-01-2013, 04:48 PM
If Gruden meant Tebow and KC.. No thanks. Too much pressure on a Defense to save the day

mcaj22
01-01-2013, 05:10 PM
Has Gruden ever bad mouthed a QB?

ive heard Gruden the NFL Coach and Gruden the nice TV personality are two completely different breed of animals

so I'm sure Gruden the coach has bad mouth plenty, and Gruden the TV mouth would never in a million years

BigMeatballDave
01-01-2013, 05:20 PM
Pioli is gona get in the way of a real coach

How?

Provided Clark is being truthful.

MotherfuckerJones
01-01-2013, 05:21 PM
How?

Provided Clark is being truthful.

I think Clark is BSing. Thats why. I hope Im wrong but with all the guys KC is interested in so far: Marrone, Koetter, Armstrong. All connected to Pioli.

Dunerdr
01-01-2013, 05:34 PM
ive heard Gruden the NFL Coach and Gruden the nice TV personality are two completely different breed of animals

so I'm sure Gruden the coach has bad mouth plenty, and Gruden the TV mouth would never in a million years

Youtube some old game film sideline Jon is fiery mix of cowhers steel jaw, Shanahans crazy bulging eyes, and a crazed pregnant woman on black friday. As a tv personality hes a candy ass.

BigMeatballDave
01-01-2013, 05:36 PM
I think Clark is BSing. Thats why. I hope Im wrong but with all the guys KC is interested in so far: Marrone, Koetter, Armstrong. All connected to Pioli.

So you believe every tweet you read?

MotherfuckerJones
01-01-2013, 05:38 PM
So you believe every tweet you read?

Um the first 2 are confirmed interviews today. So i believe those and LaConfora said the Marrone interest