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Al Bundy
11-09-2012, 07:21 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/20058706/chiefs-owner-clark-hunt-reportedly-meeting-with-marty-schottenheimer

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -
Chiefs fans are excitedly buzzing about whether team owner Clark Hunt is preparing to offer former coach Marty Schottenheimer the general manager position or get his help on reversing the team's declining fortunes.

SiriusXM NFL Radio reported that Schottenheimer was at Arrowhead Stadium on Friday to meet with Hunt, who is in Kansas City. This set Chiefs fans on Twitter and Facebook afire.

The team flatly denies that Schottenheimer was at the practice facility today.

However, left unclear was whether Schottenheimer and Hunt met at a different location, met earlier this week or whether they have a meeting later this week.

General Manager Scott Pioli is under fire after the Chiefs 1-7 start and a disappointing four-year tenure in Kansas City after he left the New England Patriots.

Tell us what you think. Should the Chiefs bring back "Martyball" or hire Schottenheimer as a consultant? Go to

L.A. Chieffan
11-09-2012, 07:22 PM
Saw him at Best Buy

pr_capone
11-09-2012, 07:22 PM
This is completely new news!

Al Bundy
11-09-2012, 07:24 PM
Well... I didn't see it on the first 2 pages. Delete this sucker if it's a repost.

DaneMcCloud
11-09-2012, 07:24 PM
:facepalm:

pr_capone
11-09-2012, 07:24 PM
Well... I didn't see it on the first 2 pages. Delete this sucker if it's a repost.

LMAO

JoeyChuckles
11-09-2012, 07:25 PM
Do I look like a bitch?

JohninGpt
11-09-2012, 07:25 PM
My friends friend is a realtor who showed him a house in Lees Summit.

keg in kc
11-09-2012, 07:27 PM
Okay, which one of you idiots said "it can't get any worse".

AussieChiefsFan
11-09-2012, 07:27 PM
Make it happen clark

Molitoth
11-09-2012, 07:27 PM
Honestly I don't care what Chunt decides to do, as long as Pioli is gone.
Marty at least has had a tremendous amount of success in the NFL, whereas Pioli has not. (We all know his rings come from Brady/Belechick)

BoneKrusher
11-09-2012, 07:28 PM
Make it happen clark

i wouldn't be opposed to it.

Simply Red
11-09-2012, 07:30 PM
Saw him at Best Buy

LMAO

KCUnited
11-09-2012, 07:30 PM
I heard they met around 3 and out by the stadiums.

DaneMcCloud
11-09-2012, 07:30 PM
i wouldn't be opposed to it.
He's 69 years old, has never been a talent evaluator, couldn't get a job in the NFL for the past seven years and would undoubtedly hire every fucking family member.

Fuck that.

Simply Red
11-09-2012, 07:30 PM
Okay, which one of you idiots said "it can't get any worse".

ROFL

The Planet is on fire tonight, it's abt time.

TribalElder
11-09-2012, 07:30 PM
MOAR!

The God Hypothesis
11-09-2012, 07:32 PM
As a consultant to help Clark find a GM...no problem.

As our new GM....not so sure. Id rather have a mad genius talent evaluator who understands its best to surround youself with people who dont always share the same opinion as you do.

Simply Red
11-09-2012, 07:32 PM
He's 69 years old, has never been a talent evaluator, couldn't get a job in the NFL for the past seven years and would undoubtedly hire every ****ing family member.

**** that.

I would hold and cuddle this post if it were physically possible. Just really good stuff. CP is bringing it tonight, i'm just a happy 'reading' camper.

BigMeatballDave
11-09-2012, 07:33 PM
:facepalm:

Mr_Tomahawk
11-09-2012, 07:33 PM
I'm for it just for the fact it means we rid ourselves of Pioli.

tk13
11-09-2012, 07:33 PM
Only if Kurt is the head coach and Mike Stock gets to run special teams.

Brock
11-09-2012, 07:34 PM
Surprised to find that I don't have a negative feeling toward this.

AussieChiefsFan
11-09-2012, 07:34 PM
As a consultant to help Clark find a GM...no problem.

As our new GM....not so sure. Id rather have a mad genius talent evaluator who understands its best to surround youself with people who dont always share the same opinion as you do.Like Marc Ross?

Ace Gunner
11-09-2012, 07:37 PM
You can never go back.

CHENZ A!
11-09-2012, 07:39 PM
Surprised to find that I don't have a negative feeling toward this.

haha Same here.

rico
11-09-2012, 07:39 PM
:), I was just getting ready to post this as a thread. Saw it on Save Our Chiefs facebook page. If this meeting has any wings to it (probably doesn't), this will make milkman

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs42/f/2009/059/3/c/Jizz_in_my_pants_by_MadnessJeff.jpg

seclark
11-09-2012, 07:39 PM
a sad, desperate lot.
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stonedstooge
11-09-2012, 07:40 PM
Been a long time since he was involved with the NFL. Big money has changed the dynamics

Chief Roundup
11-09-2012, 07:41 PM
If Marty was to come in here we would probably end up with a staff like HC Del Rio, OC Brian Schottenheimer, DC Kevin Greene

Chief Roundup
11-09-2012, 07:49 PM
has never been a talent evaluator

I don't know about a scout or player personnel or whatever like that but Marty has always improved the roster everywhere he has been at.
Marty turned the joke of a team into a respected team with talent. Norv has been riding on Marty ever since.
Redskins were terrible and he finally got them turned around and got fired for it. IIRC they were 0-5 and finished the season 8-8.

I am not some huge fan of Marty's or anything it was time for him to leave when he did. But all that guy does is build winning football teams. The only knock to him is his playoff record.

AussieChiefsFan
11-09-2012, 07:51 PM
I don't know about a scout or player personnel or whatever like that but Marty has always improved the roster everywhere he has been at.
Marty turned the joke of a team into a respected team with talent. Norv has been riding on Marty ever since.
Redskins were terrible and he finally got them turned around and got fired for it. IIRC they were 0-5 and finished the season 8-8.

I am not some huge fan of Marty's or anything it was time for him to leave when he did. But all that guy does is build winning football teams. The only knock to him is his playoff record.But he's still the last coach to take us to a win there.

Gonzo
11-09-2012, 07:54 PM
That's why I saw a Buick SUV with the license plate:
REGSESN.

I wouldn't mind the consultant thing. Pass on GM, though.

The God Hypothesis
11-09-2012, 07:54 PM
Like Marc Ross?

http://prod.static.giants.clubs.nfl.com//assets/images/imported/NYG/photos/person-assets/staff-cards/ross_marc.jpg

http://www.giants.com/team/staff/marc-ross/b3f10aa5-b99b-4517-8abd-ea613a65d0de

DaneMcCloud
11-09-2012, 07:56 PM
I don't know about a scout or player personnel or whatever like that but Marty has always improved the roster everywhere he has been at.
Marty turned the joke of a team into a respected team with talent. Norv has been riding on Marty ever since.
Redskins were terrible and he finally got them turned around and got fired for it. IIRC they were 0-5 and finished the season 8-8.

I am not some huge fan of Marty's or anything it was time for him to leave when he did. But all that guy does is build winning football teams. The only knock to him is his playoff record.

He couldn't get it done in the 80's.

He couldn't get it done in the 90's.

He couldn't get it done in 2000.

He couldn't get it done from 2001-2006.

What makes ANYONE believe he could get it done now?

Easy 6
11-09-2012, 07:56 PM
To quote myself from a month or so ago...

"if your owner, gm and head coach need a consultant, you're ****ed with or without one"

The God Hypothesis
11-09-2012, 07:59 PM
He couldn't get it done in the 90's.

He couldn't get it done on 2000.

He couldn't get it done from 2001-2006.

What makes ANYONE believe he could get it done now?

I think its less about Marty's merit as a candidate at this point, and more about the chance that Clark may finally be deciding to end Piolis 4 year disaster. Thats enough to make me.....

jimp.

DaneMcCloud
11-09-2012, 08:00 PM
IF Clark is meeting with Marty, then there is NO QUESTION that Clark and the entire Hunt family are COMPLETELY CLUELESS .

Not only about football, but the NFL.

AussieChiefsFan
11-09-2012, 08:01 PM
http://prod.static.giants.clubs.nfl.com//assets/images/imported/NYG/photos/person-assets/staff-cards/ross_marc.jpg

http://www.giants.com/team/staff/marc-ross/b3f10aa5-b99b-4517-8abd-ea613a65d0deyep, thats him.

DaneMcCloud
11-09-2012, 08:01 PM
I think its less about Marty's merit as a candidate at this point, and more about the chance that Clark may finally be deciding to end Piolis 4 year disaster. Thats enough to make me.....

jimp.

Great.

Marty consulted on Pioli's hire as well.

Yay.

The God Hypothesis
11-09-2012, 08:05 PM
As I listened to Sirius NFL Radio, ESPN, & Yahoo Fantasy sports talk on a roadtrip back from Blacksburg today, I was over and over again reminded what an epic embarrassment our beloved Chiefs franchise is at the moment. Every time any of the talking heads mentioned the Chiefs it was to comment on what a joke our team is. The Steelers over the Chiefs was called the "lock of the season". JFC.

Lonewolf Ed
11-09-2012, 08:09 PM
Was he in town to see how that kid he fathered with the waitress at Tanners is doing?

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-09-2012, 08:11 PM
Courted him by splurging on, sharing a 2 for 20 at Applebees

Chocolate Hog
11-09-2012, 08:14 PM
This means Pioli is gone so that's good

rico
11-09-2012, 08:14 PM
Courted him by splurging on, sharing a 2 for 20 at Applebees

LMAO

Guru
11-09-2012, 08:14 PM
God please let this NOT be true. JFC He will bring in Brian and Kurt. **** that.

rico
11-09-2012, 08:16 PM
Courted him by splurging on, sharing a 2 for 20 at Applebees

And while they are there, they can apologize for Matt Cassel being a dick to that girl a few years ago....Or whatever that story was.

The God Hypothesis
11-09-2012, 08:19 PM
God please let this NOT be true. JFC He will bring in Brian and Kurt. **** that.

Maybe Clark just depends on Marty like a mentor every time he has a decision to make that cant involve the current/replaced gm? :hmmm:

ChiefsCountry
11-09-2012, 08:23 PM
Just give him a token title like Special Advisor or some bullshit like that. Chuck Noll has something like that for Pittsburgh.
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FAX
11-09-2012, 08:23 PM
And while they are there, they can apologize for Matt Cassel being a dick to that girl a few years ago....Or whatever that story was.

Hmmm ... that actually sounds like it has the makings of a good story, Mr. rico.

Do you have any detail things?

FAX

DaneMcCloud
11-09-2012, 08:24 PM
Maybe Clark just depends on Marty like a mentor every time he has a decision to make that cant involve the current/replaced gm? :hmmm:

It's more likely that Clark is a clueless BITCH that runs to daddy when things go wrong.

Clark Hunt is a clueless fucking CUNT.

ArrowheadHawk
11-09-2012, 08:26 PM
Meh. It could be worse. Bring him in at GM.

JASONSAUTO
11-09-2012, 08:26 PM
I didn't know Clark's mom worked at Tanners
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FringeNC
11-09-2012, 08:28 PM
GM - Marty
HC - Vermeil
OC - Saunders
QB coach - Trent Green
QB - Matt Barkley

LOL

La literatura
11-09-2012, 08:30 PM
It's more likely that Clark is a clueless BITCH that runs to daddy when things go wrong.

Clark Hunt is a clueless ****ing ****.

Probably, so it's a good thing that he would consult with someone who does know something about the game and personnel to help decide where to take this franchise next.

Bacon Cheeseburger
11-09-2012, 08:41 PM
He couldn't get it done in the 80's.

He couldn't get it done in the 90's.

He couldn't get it done in 2000.

He couldn't get it done from 2001-2006.

What makes ANYONE believe he could get it done now?
UFL title

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-09-2012, 08:44 PM
Hmmm ... that actually sounds like it has the makings of a good story, Mr. rico.

Do you have any detail things?

FAX

Mr. rico may have evidence that leads to the discovery of Mr. Black Bob being Mr. Hootie. News at 11.

DeezNutz
11-09-2012, 08:46 PM
Need to win one regular season game? Marty.

Need to get a program on its feet? Marty.

Truth, so it's not implausible that he might have been contacted.

CHENZ A!
11-09-2012, 08:48 PM
Hmmm ... that actually sounds like it has the makings of a good story, Mr. rico.

Do you have any detail things?

FAX

I think he's talking about when Todd Haley grabbed that waitress' ass.

FAX
11-09-2012, 08:52 PM
I think he's talking about when Todd Haley grabbed that waitress' ass.

Ah ... okay. Thanks, Mr. CHENZ A!. I was a little confused there for a moment ... but I'm better now.

FAX

MOhillbilly
11-09-2012, 08:59 PM
Haha, the fans cry out and Clark goes back to the well.

BigRedChief
11-09-2012, 09:04 PM
God please let this NOT be true. JFC He will bring in Brian and Kurt. **** that.Marty has been meeting with Clark for years. He is a paid consultant for the team. He's been offering advise and getting paid. Nothing to see here.

Tombstone RJ
11-09-2012, 09:06 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/20058706/chiefs-owner-clark-hunt-reportedly-meeting-with-marty-schottenheimer

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -
Chiefs fans are excitedly buzzing about whether team owner Clark Hunt is preparing to offer former coach Marty Schottenheimer the general manager position or get his help on reversing the team's declining fortunes.

SiriusXM NFL Radio reported that Schottenheimer was at Arrowhead Stadium on Friday to meet with Hunt, who is in Kansas City. This set Chiefs fans on Twitter and Facebook afire.

The team flatly denies that Schottenheimer was at the practice facility today.

However, left unclear was whether Schottenheimer and Hunt met at a different location, met earlier this week or whether they have a meeting later this week.

General Manager Scott Pioli is under fire after the Chiefs 1-7 start and a disappointing four-year tenure in Kansas City after he left the New England Patriots.

Tell us what you think. Should the Chiefs bring back "Martyball" or hire Schottenheimer as a consultant? Go to

there's a gleem gentlemen, there's a gleem!

Simply Red
11-09-2012, 09:10 PM
It's more likely that Clark is a clueless BITCH that runs to daddy when things go wrong.

Clark Hunt is a clueless ****ing ****.

yep & the only thing Chunt can negotiate is a deal on several acres of pasture out in Texas, and this shit market helped him do THAT. Get him to the round table w/ serious business men, he's reduced to the conservative hick he really is, he's a can'T do'er. Everyone leaves without getting anything done.

**** the clown.

He just sits back and saves his money. He doesn't even know how to properly reinvest in his own company.

There's just no excuse.

Crush
11-09-2012, 09:11 PM
Fuck Marty and the mediocrity that he brings to the table.

Agent V
11-09-2012, 09:13 PM
He met with Marty a few years ago and Marty didn't become the head coach or GM. Calm down.

Crush
11-09-2012, 09:14 PM
I think its less about Marty's merit as a candidate at this point, and more about the chance that Clark may finally be deciding to end Piolis 4 year disaster. Thats enough to make me.....

jimp.


That's like saying, "Thank God I have AIDS instead of cancer."

Crush
11-09-2012, 09:15 PM
He met with Marty a few years ago and Marty didn't become the head coach or GM. Calm down.

Marty is also the one who recommended Pioli to Clark in the first place. Clark is completely clueless.

Brock
11-09-2012, 09:19 PM
He met with Marty a few years ago and Marty didn't become the head coach or GM. Calm down.

So why do it again?

GloryDayz
11-09-2012, 09:19 PM
ROFLROFLROFL Clark Hunt in the KC area when free whore cex wasn't being offered.... ROFLROFLROFL

Baby Lee
11-09-2012, 09:31 PM
Need to win one regular season game? Marty.

Need to get a program on its feet? Marty.

Truth, so it's not implausible that he might have been contacted.

The irony is the 2012 Chiefs would probably be his most dire redemption project ever.

DaneMcCloud
11-09-2012, 09:31 PM
Haha, the fans cry out and Clark goes back to the well.

This

GloryDayz
11-09-2012, 09:33 PM
Clark's a Chunt!

HemiEd
11-09-2012, 09:40 PM
Cool, maybe Jimmy Rae is available for OC

Bump
11-09-2012, 09:44 PM
that would be funny. At least the season would be interesting, give the man one last go at it! I don't even give a shit anymore.

DaWolf
11-09-2012, 09:48 PM
Honestly I don't care what Chunt decides to do, as long as Pioli is gone.
Marty at least has had a tremendous amount of success in the NFL, whereas Pioli has not. (We all know his rings come from Brady/Belechick)

LOL. Go back to the posts from four+ tears ago and you'll probably see a lot of posts like "I don't care what we do as long as King Carl and Herm are gone."

I'm not in that boat anymore. Pioli better be gone and the Clarks better get it right this time...

okcchief
11-09-2012, 10:08 PM
Marty is also the one who recommended Pioli to Clark in the first place. Clark is completely clueless.

Everyone thought Pioli was a great hire at the time. I would rather him consult Marty than go off on his own

My only problems with Marty being part of the organization would be him bringing his family. He's also 69. Has the game passed him by?

He has a history of building winning teams. He has had some bad luck in the playoffs too. The fumble against Denver when he was with Cleveland. The pick to end the game against NE with SD until the dude strips the ball. I really believe if SD would have stuck with him he'd have gotten the monkey off his back.

He's the only coach we've ever had where I felt like we could win any game. The rest of my time as a Chiefs fan has sucked fucking balls. There are worse things that could happen than Marty being involved.

That being said, I think Hunt's just picking his brain. If that means Pioli is gone then fucking YAY regardless.

Deberg_1990
11-09-2012, 10:11 PM
GM - Marty
HC - Vermeil
OC - Saunders
QB coach - Trent Green
QB - Matt Barkley

LOL

more like

GM - Marty
HC - Cowher
OC - Brian Schottenheimer
DC - Kurt Schottenhemier
QB - Matt Hasselback

Director of scouting - Herm

Lzen
11-09-2012, 10:11 PM
For those complaining that Clark did this 4 years ago and Marty recommended Pioli, that's not really fair. As I recall, Pioli was the hottest GM prospect. He had everyone in the league fooled, apparently.

cabletech94
11-09-2012, 10:17 PM
more like

GM - Marty
HC - Cowher
OC - Brian Schottenheimer
DC - Kurt Schottenhemier
QB - Matt Hasselback

Director of scouting - Herm

as much as i've yelled my distaste for herm on this site, i'd LOVE him in this capacity.

okcchief
11-09-2012, 10:18 PM
For those complaining that Clark did this 4 years ago and Marty recommended Pioli, that's not really fair. As I recall, Pioli was the hottest GM prospect. He had everyone in the league fooled, apparently.

This

DaneMcCloud
11-09-2012, 10:25 PM
Everyone thought Pioli was a great hire at the time.

No, everyone didn't.

okcchief
11-09-2012, 10:30 PM
No, everyone didn't.

Ok, almost everyone.

Chocolate Hog
11-09-2012, 10:49 PM
No, everyone didn't.

He was the #1 guy for the Giants, I believe the Seahawks offered him a contract without meeting him, The Browns and a few other teams tried to hire him. To pretend like he wasn't one of the most wanted guys in the NFL simply isn't true.

RustShack
11-09-2012, 10:52 PM
Any team that had a GM opening that year and the previous few tried hiring him. Anyone trying to deny that is plain stupid.

tk13
11-09-2012, 10:55 PM
You could probably have a field day going back through some of the posts during the Herm years by people wishing Clark would hire someone like Pioli or DeCosta.

Sorter
11-09-2012, 11:03 PM
Herm's best job in football IMO, is a DB's coach.

Deberg_1990
11-09-2012, 11:05 PM
You could probably have a field day going back through some of the posts during the Herm years by people wishing Clark would hire someone like Pioli or DeCosta.

There are threads pimping Pioli for the Chiefs as far back as 2004.

mcaj22
11-09-2012, 11:06 PM
Herm will never leave ESPN. They have him on 100 different shows and segments and he can dress up in different gimmick themes and just flap the shit out of his gums about nonsense.

he has such an easy gig right now.

DaneMcCloud
11-09-2012, 11:10 PM
He was the #1 guy for the Giants, I believe the Seahawks offered him a contract without meeting him, The Browns and a few other teams tried to hire him. To pretend like he wasn't one of the most wanted guys in the NFL simply isn't true.

The Giants? What? Jerry Reese was director of Player Personnel and had been with the Giants since 1993. There was no chance Pioli was in line, especially since Ernie Accorsi trained him and had him set up as his successor.

I know about the Cleveland situation but they firmly rejected him immediately after their initial meeting.

Pete Carroll was hired on January 8th, 2009 and John Schneider was hired two later.

Pioli wasn't hired until January 13th.

T-post Tom
11-09-2012, 11:11 PM
Just ran into Marty at Tanners. Him and Greg Hill were scouting the waitresses.

Chocolate Hog
11-09-2012, 11:17 PM
The Giants? What? Jerry Reese was director of Player Personnel and had been with the Giants since 1993. There was no chance Pioli was in line, especially since Ernie Accorsi trained him and had him set up as his successor.

I know about the Cleveland situation but they firmly rejected him immediately after their initial meeting.

Pete Carroll was hired on January 8th, 2009 and John Schneider was hired two later.

Pioli wasn't hired until January 13th.

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthread.php?45808-Scott-Pioli-Turns-Down-Giants

"I am very honored to be granted the opportunity to discuss a potential position with the New York Giants. I have tremendous respect for the Kraft family, the Mara family, the Tisch family and the Giants organization. After careful consideration, and for personal reasons, I am continuing in my current role with the New England Patriots."

tk13
11-09-2012, 11:18 PM
Herm's best job in football IMO, is a DB's coach.

That's not a stretch at all. The three best CB's the Chiefs have drafted in the last 20 years were all Herm's guys. Carter/Flowers/Carr.

Sorter
11-09-2012, 11:19 PM
:clap:Just ran into Marty at Tanners. Him and Greg Hill were scouting the waitresses.

DaneMcCloud
11-09-2012, 11:19 PM
http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthread.php?45808-Scott-Pioli-Turns-Down-Giants

"I am very honored to be granted the opportunity to discuss a potential position with the New York Giants. I have tremendous respect for the Kraft family, the Mara family, the Tisch family and the Giants organization. After careful consideration, and for personal reasons, I am continuing in my current role with the New England Patriots."

Interesting.

I'll have to check with my Giants peeps to see if if was a serious inquiry, because it was never mentioned to me.

mcaj22
11-09-2012, 11:22 PM
"personal reasons"

aka

they didnt give him full control

only clark was gullible/dumb enough to do that

tk13
11-09-2012, 11:24 PM
The same thing was reported in NY papers. That's the funny thing about it. Pioli turned down the Giants, and Dayton Moore turned down the Boston Red Sox job, and they both ended up in KC. Wonder if they regret that today...

DaneMcCloud
11-09-2012, 11:38 PM
The same thing was reported in NY papers. That's the funny thing about it. Pioli turned down the Giants, and Dayton Moore turned down the Boston Red Sox job, and they both ended up in KC. Wonder if they regret that today...

They?

What about us?

:D

Wait, what? Moore in Boston? Where they going to fire Theo?

Sorter
11-09-2012, 11:41 PM
That's not a stretch at all. The three best CB's the Chiefs have drafted in the last 20 years were all Herm's guys. Carter/Flowers/Carr.

Fuck no it isn't a stretch. Guy is a fantastic DB coach and a wonderful technician.

Psyko Tek
11-09-2012, 11:42 PM
GM - Marty
HC - Vermeil
OC - Saunders
QB coach - Trent Green
QB - Matt Barkley

LOL

can we let gunther and crennel be co DC's?
then the gang is all here
Priest Holmes in charge of food services?

tk13
11-09-2012, 11:42 PM
It was the year Theo "stepped down," only to come back early the next year. Dayton Moore was on their list, interviewed, but eventually withdrew himself... because many people thought he'd eventually get the Braves job.

splatbass
11-09-2012, 11:54 PM
**** Marty and the mediocrity that he brings to the table.

Mediocrity is looking pretty good right now. We can't even get a lead, and you are worried about mediocrity?

stevenidol
11-10-2012, 12:02 AM
If it means Romeo and Pioli get fired and I get more Marty speeches then I am all in. Marty could talk me into killing someone with one of those speeches.

DaWolf
11-10-2012, 12:14 AM
There are threads pimping Pioli for the Chiefs as far back as 2004.

Pioli was then what Decosta and Marc Ross are today in many people's eyes...

Phobia
11-10-2012, 12:18 AM
**** no it isn't a stretch. Guy is a fantastic DB coach and a wonderful technician.

The offseason workouts I attended when I had a press pass, Herm always spent about 50% of the practice with the DB's.

KILLER_CLOWN
11-10-2012, 01:49 AM
It's more likely that Clark is a clueless BITCH that runs to daddy when things go wrong.

Clark Hunt is a clueless ****ing ****.

This is not new news, bring him in with the stipulation no "keep it in the family" is involved.

Hog Farmer
11-10-2012, 04:36 AM
Marty would be a great Head coach. When he was here before he NEVER had that top tier RB or QB. He was great defensively though. Give him the tools we have now and a QB and he would get us in the playoffs. Guaranteed !

Crush
11-10-2012, 04:45 AM
Mediocrity is looking pretty good right now. We can't even get a lead, and you are worried about mediocrity?


Fuck 8-8

bevischief
11-10-2012, 05:46 AM
That's why I saw a Buick SUV with the license plate:
REGSESN.

I wouldn't mind the consultant thing. Pass on GM, though.

This.

Mr. Flopnuts
11-10-2012, 05:48 AM
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GloryDayz
11-10-2012, 05:59 AM
It's more likely that Clark is a clueless BITCH that runs to daddy when things go wrong.

Clark Hunt is a clueless ****ing ****.

Believe it or not I tend to agree. Under Clark's tutelage, God himself couldn't GM or coach this team to many wins! The whole Hunt clan is the laughing stock of NFL ownership families.

Guru
11-10-2012, 06:20 AM
Please Mr. Cuban, make an offer.

Woodchuck
11-10-2012, 06:58 AM
This makes me really happy. I can't see marty being hired to be GM but an advisor role is perfect. I thought hiring Marty as an advisor needed to be the first step. Clark needs someone he can trust. Now it is on like Donkey Kong because Pioli can't bullshit marty. Clark is finally getting out from under Pioli's thumb. Clark is admitting he is in over his head and needs help. you guys should be happy.

I was hoping for this a couple of months ago and some of you killed me for it.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=8919978&highlight=matry+advisor#post8919978

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=8924267&highlight=matry+advisor#post8924267

Some of these players better start busting their ass because marty ain't going to feel sorry for them.

okcchief
11-10-2012, 07:07 AM
Please Mr. Cuban, make an offer.

I've been fantasizing about him buying the Royals or Chiefs for sometime. I wonder if one of us can get on Shark Tank and beg lol

Tuckdaddy
11-10-2012, 07:11 AM
If Marty were the GM it would give us a direct line to Cowher. If that's the guy we want.

cdcox
11-10-2012, 09:11 AM
IF Clark is meeting with Marty, then there is NO QUESTION that Clark and the entire Hunt family are COMPLETELY CLUELESS .

Not only about football, but about life.

FYP.

This will rank right up there with bringing back Gunther to fix the defense.

bricks
11-10-2012, 09:16 AM
I'll take Marty back as a head coach:D

KCDC
11-10-2012, 09:20 AM
Consultant only -- to confirm that Pioli and the Patriot Way is a FAIL. Then, I want Marty to go home and never be a coach in KC again, nor his brother, or son.

He had a good run in the 90s. Let's keep it that way.

FAX
11-10-2012, 09:22 AM
I'm sure Clark feels that Marty would bring the true fans back into line ... and he's probably right about that.

I don't see how Marty fits into the new NFL, though. This is an offense-driven league (as we well know) and that isn't Marty's strong suit.

Still, the notion of Marty as GM is intriguing to me.

FAX

Bowser
11-10-2012, 09:23 AM
Pathetic

Rausch
11-10-2012, 09:25 AM
Not a big surprise.

They met with him before the Gun and DV hires as well.

To me, this is good news.

Means we're (at minimum) looking for a new HC...

FAX
11-10-2012, 09:31 AM
The question is; what does Marty bring to the table?

I don't see any true benefit (football-wise) to involve him. Can he evaluate talent? I honestly don't know. He certainly isn't in line to coach. The game has, in large measure, passed him by.

No ... I see this as a PR move, at best. A large number of KC fans still like Marty. He brings back good memories for them. Clark is probably thinking that involving Marty would supplant the current feelings of despair with a sense of hope for a return to the days of playoff games and dominant defenses or something like that.

The fact that Marty never won anything of note is often overlooked by the DEB ALL CAPSs of the world. In that respect, Clark may simply be looking for ways to stifle the griping.

FAX

chiefzilla1501
11-10-2012, 09:34 AM
The question is; what does Marty bring to the table?

I don't see any true benefit (football-wise) to involve him. Can he evaluate talent? I honestly don't know. He certainly isn't in line to coach. The game has, in large measure, passed him by.

No ... I see this as a PR move, at best. A large number of KC fans still like Marty. He brings back good memories for them. Clark is probably thinking that involving Marty would supplant the current feelings of despair with a sense of hope for a return to the days of playoff games and dominant defenses or something like that.

The fact that Marty never won anything of note is often overlooked by the DEB ALL CAPSs of the world. In that respect, Clark may simply be looking for ways to stifle the griping.

FAX

A guy like Marty would be great in an advisor role because he fought with AJ Smith, so he knows what it's like to work with a GM with power issues. I would hope Marty pushes for the hire of a more open GM who can work with a head coach.

The red flag being, of course... did he actually recommend Pioli and if he did, did he just miss the power issue? Or did he just not care? Other red flag being... what if he wants to be the GM?

FAX
11-10-2012, 09:45 AM
GMs who are ex-coaches is a very rare beastie, is it not?

FAX

Detoxing
11-10-2012, 09:46 AM
Please not Marty.

That would be the "Chiefs" thing to do though. When the situation requires something bold and new, the Chiefs decide to go with old and stale.

Detoxing
11-10-2012, 09:49 AM
Clark Hunt is putting a feeler out to see how the fan base reacts to "Marty".

He's going to remake Marty vs Elway all over again.

OHMYGAWD.

FAX
11-10-2012, 09:59 AM
Please not Marty.

That would be the "Chiefs" thing to do though. When the situation requires something bold and new, the Chiefs decide to go with old and stale.

Well, I know it's uncommon in a throw-away society where we either completely ignore the elderly or toss them into homes as soon as they're of age, but the advice of experienced humans can often translate into a valuable advantage.

I've frequently found the council of older people to be extremely useful. Not only have they provided my life and business activities with meaningful insight and guidance, I now make some of the best damn oatmeal this side of the Mississippi.

FAX

Rausch
11-10-2012, 10:05 AM
Clark Hunt is putting a feeler out to see how the fan base reacts to "Marty".


:facepalm:

FAX
11-10-2012, 10:06 AM
The general feeling among the fans is that Marty would have won it all, had it not been for Elway, right?

FAX

CoMoChief
11-10-2012, 10:06 AM
A NFL coach has to be able to lead....the entire roster has to be behind the HC, and has to be on the same page.

Marty isn't a x'o and o's guy. Marty is a leader. He's a coach that gets the best out of his players.

This team has talent. What they lack is the ability to play well together. This team has zero leadership. None, zilch, nada.... There is no Will Sheilds, Waters, Weigman. The people that are supposed to be leaders are not....they're great players w/ superb talent, but they don't lead a locker room.

CoMoChief
11-10-2012, 10:09 AM
The general feeling among the fans is that Marty would have won it all, had it not been for Elway, right?

FAX

Well Marty was indeed snakebitten.

Can't blame Marty for the fumble in CLE

Can't blame Marty for Lin Elliott and his inability to kick FG's

Can't blame Marty for Montana getting hurt.


Sure there are many things you can blame Marty for...but had the above not happened, Marty would probably be a HOF coach right now.

theelusiveeightrop
11-10-2012, 10:11 AM
Saw him at Bed Bath and Beyond. Hard a cart full of crying towels.

Richard_Cuckold
11-10-2012, 10:12 AM
do not want

FAX
11-10-2012, 10:12 AM
A NFL coach has to be able to lead....the entire roster has to be behind the HC, and has to be on the same page.

Marty isn't a x'o and o's guy. Marty is a leader. He's a coach that gets the best out of his players.

This team has talent. What they lack is the ability to play well together. This team has zero leadership. None, zilch, nada.... There is no Will Sheilds, Waters, Weigman. The people that are supposed to be leaders are not....they're great players w/ superb talent, but they don't lead a locker room.

Although true, unfortunately that's only one of the issues that is holding us back from making progress, Mr. CoMoChief.

We still lack talent at key positions and the depth on this squad is pathetic at best.

Then, you have to deal with the insane GM, the pitiable coaching, the conditioning of the players (or lack thereof) ... I mean, we have problems everywhere. And serious problems, to boot.

The fact is that the Chiefs are in a world of poop. An entire world of it with no poop scraper in sight.

FAX

CoMoChief
11-10-2012, 10:12 AM
Saw him at Bed Bath and Beyond. Hard a cart full of crying towels.

DV must be having a wine party again.

FAX
11-10-2012, 10:13 AM
I forget ... has Pioli started blaming the players, yet?

FAX

CoMoChief
11-10-2012, 10:19 AM
Although true, unfortunately that's only one of the issues that is holding us back from making progress, Mr. CoMoChief.

We still lack talent at key positions and the depth on this squad is pathetic at best.

Then, you have to deal with the insane GM, the pitiable coaching, the conditioning of the players (or lack thereof) ... I mean, we have problems everywhere. And serious problems, to boot.

The fact is that the Chiefs are in a world of poop. An entire world of it with no poop scraper in sight.

FAX
I agree about the depth on this team.....but i also think the biggest thing about this team is the lack of coaching. No one is held accountable for their ineptness on the football field. No one takes blame for this team's ****ups, all everyone does is hush hush Bowe leaks out that he wants to leave KC and then everyone thinks he's a loud mouth diva WR. Can you blame him? Look at who he's had to deal with at QB since he's been here. Just awful. Only one QB (Orton) is a average NFL QB...the others are lucky to have played games in the league. Matt Cassel, supposedly this team's leader, really believes that he's the greatest thing on the field and never makes mistakes...his words prove that. He can throw 4 INT's in a game and he'll turn right around and tell you he believes he graded out just fine. This entire team's suckitude surrounds Cassel's inability to play QB.

There's enough talent on this team (with a good QB) with a good coach that can lead, to where we could be serious SB contenders.

This is the same kind of team that SF had the year Mike Singletary was fired. Get us a good HC and a new QB, and we could turn into that kind of 49ers team we're seeing this year.

FAX
11-10-2012, 10:24 AM
I agree about the depth on this team.....but i also think the biggest thing about this team is the lack of coaching. No one is held accountable for their ineptness on the football field. No one takes blame for this team's ****ups, all everyone does is hush hush Bowe leaks out that he wants to leave KC and then everyone thinks he's a loud mouth diva WR. Can you blame him? Look at who he's had to deal with at QB since he's been here. Just awful. Only one QB (Orton) is a average NFL QB...the others are lucky to have played games in the league. Matt Cassel, supposedly this team's leader, really believes that he's the greatest thing on the field and never makes mistakes...his words prove that. He can throw 4 INT's in a game and he'll turn right around and tell you he believes he graded out just fine. This entire team's suckitude surrounds Cassel's inability to play QB.

There's enough talent on this team (with a good QB) with a good coach that can lead, to where we could be serious SB contenders.

This is the same kind of team that SF had the year Mike Singletary was fired. Get us a good HC and a new QB, and we could turn into that kind of 49ers team we're seeing this year.

I'm not sure I can agree with the notion that we have Super Bowl caliber talent signed up as of today. Particularly considering the depth issue.

Otherwise, I agree with you. But as we are all aware, the biggest problem remains our biggest problem and that's currently the GM.

I would be very interested to see how a new GM would handle the roster as it exists.

Coaching-wise, Roleo is our second-biggest problem ... but he wouldn't be one if it weren't for our biggest problem. It's intriguing, though ... we do know that the current squad can be coached up ... Haley proved it. How far is the question.

FAX

DTLB58
11-10-2012, 10:26 AM
Hey, If he was truly in town at least we know Clark is considering changes and he isn't relying on Pioli's advice. :clap:

Chief Roundup
11-10-2012, 10:28 AM
Hey, If he was truly in town at least we know Clark is considering changes and he isn't relying on Pioli's advice. :clap:

If you were going to replace Pioli you wouldn't ask his advice.

FAX
11-10-2012, 10:30 AM
If you were going to replace Pioli you wouldn't ask his advice.

ROFL

I don't know ... it's probably in his contract.

FAX

splatbass
11-10-2012, 10:35 AM
Marty would be a great Head coach. When he was here before he NEVER had that top tier RB or QB.

Christian Okoye, Marcus Allen, Joe Montana.

cabletech94
11-10-2012, 10:39 AM
I forget ... has Pioli started blaming the players, yet?

FAX

he said in a recent radio interview, "that on paper"..............

splatbass
11-10-2012, 10:40 AM
The question is; what does Marty bring to the table?

I don't see any true benefit (football-wise) to involve him. Can he evaluate talent? I honestly don't know. He certainly isn't in line to coach. The game has, in large measure, passed him by.

No ... I see this as a PR move, at best. A large number of KC fans still like Marty. He brings back good memories for them. Clark is probably thinking that involving Marty would supplant the current feelings of despair with a sense of hope for a return to the days of playoff games and dominant defenses or something like that.

The fact that Marty never won anything of note is often overlooked by the DEB ALL CAPSs of the world. In that respect, Clark may simply be looking for ways to stifle the griping.

FAX

Marty may never have won anything of note, but watching football on Sundays was FUN. It hasn't been fun in a long, long time.

splatbass
11-10-2012, 10:42 AM
Please not Marty.

That would be the "Chiefs" thing to do though. When the situation requires something bold and new, the Chiefs decide to go with old and stale.

They went bold and new with Pioli and Haley. The idea that they never go bold and new is wrong.

DTLB58
11-10-2012, 10:42 AM
For those complaining that Clark did this 4 years ago and Marty recommended Pioli, that's not really fair. As I recall, Pioli was the hottest GM prospect. He had everyone in the league fooled, apparently.

Exactly. 99% of Chief fans here and everywhere would have burned Clark alive if he wouldn't have made that hire in 2009.

Who knew?

FAX
11-10-2012, 10:46 AM
he said in a recent radio interview, "that on paper"..............

Ah, yes. Now I remember.

FAX

ChiefMojo
11-10-2012, 10:56 AM
Bingo, anyone that harps on Marty's support for Pioli is just being dumb... 99% of the people out there thought Pioli was a home-run and the greatest thing since sliced bread. What we have find out now is the Patriot Way doesn't work outside of New England.

KILLER_CLOWN
11-10-2012, 11:01 AM
Bingo, anyone that harps on Marty's support for Pioli is just being dumb... 99% of the people out there thought Pioli was a home-run and the greatest thing since sliced bread. What we have find out now is the Patriot Way doesn't work outside of Tom Brady.

fyp.

DaneMcCloud
11-10-2012, 11:01 AM
Figures.

The Panthers bring in Super Bowl architect and renowned former GM Ernie Accorsi to oversee their GM search and the Chiefs bring in a guy that's never won a fucking thing to advise.

I'm almost to the point where I fucking hate this franchise, something I never thought possible before this year.

Brock
11-10-2012, 11:03 AM
Bingo, anyone that harps on Marty's support for Pioli is just being dumb... 99% of the people out there thought Pioli was a home-run and the greatest thing since sliced bread. What we have find out now is the Patriot Way doesn't work outside of New England.

So Marty's held to only the same standard as fans who recognized Pioli's name and thought it was a good idea? Had Marty ever even met Pioli?

In any case, I've never read anything that said Marty endorsed Pioli to begin with.

milkman
11-10-2012, 11:12 AM
:), I was just getting ready to post this as a thread. Saw it on Save Our Chiefs facebook page. If this meeting has any wings to it (probably doesn't), this will make milkman

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs42/f/2009/059/3/c/Jizz_in_my_pants_by_MadnessJeff.jpg

Where, exactly, did you ever get the idea that I like Marty?

DTLB58
11-10-2012, 11:14 AM
If you were going to replace Pioli you wouldn't ask his advice.

What I was getting at was, it has been speculated that Romeo would be gone but Scott stays. Get it now....

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-10-2012, 12:03 PM
KANSAS CITY, Mo. – The inevitable rumors that former Kansas City Chiefs coach Marty Schottenheimer will return to rescue the floundering 1-7 Chiefs finally surfaced into an actual report Friday.

SiriusXM NFL Radio reported on air that Schottenheimer was in Kansas City on Friday and met with Chiefs owner Clark Hunt – at least according to a KCTV report, the CBS television affiliate in Kansas City.

But Schottenheimer told FOX Sports Kansas City by phone Saturday morning from his home in Charlotte, N.C., that there was no truth to the report. Schottenheimer also said that there were no plans to meet with Hunt.

The Chiefs also denied the Sirius report on Friday.

Schottenheimer, 69, was in town for the Chiefs' annual alumni weekend in late September, and, with his wife, Pat, sat with the Hunt family in the owners' suite. But the Schottenheimers have sat with the Hunt family in each of the last three years during alumni weekend.

The September trip this year was planned, too, because Schottenheimer had two scheduled book signings in Kansas City for his biography "Martyball!"

Friday's report naturally created a huge stir among Chiefs fans, who enthusiastically lit up the comment sections on local blogs in support of bringing Schottenheimer back in some capacity, perhaps even as general manager.

Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli has been under increasing criticism for the team's historically bad start – the Chiefs are the first NFL team since 1929 to not have held a lead in regulation through the season's first eight games.

Schottenheimer, though, has not indicated an interest in returning to the NFL.

Schottenheimer, along with general manager Carl Peterson, was the architect of the Chiefs' revival in the 1990s. Over a 10-year span, Schottenheimer posted a 101-58-1 regular-season record and led the Chiefs to the playoffs seven times.

The Chiefs have not won a playoff game since January 14, 1994, when Schottenheimer's team beat the Houston Oilers.

Schottenheimer last coached in the NFL with San Diego, leading the Chargers to a 14-2 record in 2006. But he was fired after that season when the Chargers lost their first-round playoff game.

With 200 career wins, Schottenheimer is the sixth winningest coach in the history of the NFL.

In 2011, Schottenheimer coached the Virginia Destroyers to the UFL title, but he did not return to the team this season.

FAX
11-10-2012, 12:05 PM
Well ... so much for that.

FAX

Bump
11-10-2012, 12:14 PM
the Chiefs are the first NFL team since 1929 to not have held a lead in regulation through the season's first eight games.

damn...

KILLER_CLOWN
11-10-2012, 12:23 PM
Stuck with Pissoli i guess.

KCUnited
11-10-2012, 12:25 PM
Clark wants to put his own stamp of mediocrity on this team.

Mr_Tomahawk
11-10-2012, 12:28 PM
just one of many rumors we will be hearing in the later half of the season...

Deberg_1990
11-10-2012, 12:29 PM
Marty does have new found credibility with his UFL title.

petegz28
11-10-2012, 12:34 PM
I'm getting the impression that Dane doesn't care for any of the Marty business. :hmmm:

Mr_Tomahawk
11-10-2012, 01:24 PM
https://twitter.com/JakeGuti/status/267357704253739008/photo/1

Chocolate Hog
11-10-2012, 01:25 PM
https://twitter.com/JakeGuti/status/267357704253739008/photo/1

Look at those tits

Chief Roundup
11-10-2012, 01:28 PM
Look at those tits

What is he doing in Providence?

Big Chief Homer
11-10-2012, 01:32 PM
What is he doing in Providence?

Hopefully signing his lease on his new place to live.

FringeNC
11-10-2012, 01:33 PM
What is he doing in Providence?

Foxboro is as close to Providence as it is Boston...hhhmmmm

Has he silently already been relieved of duties?

FringeNC
11-10-2012, 01:52 PM
https://twitter.com/JakeGuti/status/267357704253739008/photo/1

More I think about, this seems important. Should be its own thread. Pioli may very well have been visiting Patriots HQ.

3rd&48ers
11-10-2012, 01:54 PM
Well... I didn't see it on the first 2 pages. Delete this sucker if it's a repost.

You stupid fucker

Mr_Tomahawk
11-10-2012, 01:56 PM
He's not trying to conceal his identity wearing a "together is powerful" shirt.

Chieftain58
11-10-2012, 02:06 PM
Great news! Anyone complaining is a moron

DaneMcCloud
11-10-2012, 02:09 PM
Great news! Anyone complaining is a moron

Shut the fuck up, moron

TEX
11-10-2012, 02:21 PM
I've said all along that what's going on in KC right now is very similar to what went on in Houston before Kubes became HC. Let me surmise...

Charley Casserly was doing his best Scott Pioli impression and had really run the Texans into the ground. He had drafted QB David Carr and stuck with him when it was painfully obvious that he was NOT going to be a franchise QB. Carr even received a $10 MILLION roster bonus after years of suckage. Casserly had MISSED on just about every first round pick and had not been able to draft, sign and develop quality depth. He had hired Dom Capers as the first HC and Capers and he did not see eye to eye several years down the road on many issues. Bob McNair (Texans Owner) knew he had a sinking ship of a franchise and brought in DAN REEVES (Just as Hunt is rumored to have done with Marty) to evaluate the state of the franchise. He made his reccomendations and Capers and Carr were let go and Reeves stuck around and "helped" Casserly pick a new HC (Kubes) and helped during the draft process, helped identify other QB popssibilities (Trading for Schaub) and stragely enough, helped pick a new GM (Rick Smith) while Charley Casserly was still serving as a lame duck GM. Then omce Smith was named GM - Casserly was GONE. Now, 6 years later the Texans are Super Bowl contenders. It took longer than expected because Casserly had missed so badly in previous drafts, that the TEXANS had virtually N-O-T-H-I-N-G to show after 5 seasons. They basically started over....:hmmm:

I believe that Hunt trusts Marty and is doing something along the the same lines that McNair did with Reeves if these rumors are true. This is the first step, in my opinion, of sweeping changes. I hope it turns out the way it did for the Texans. Just my take on things...

KCChiefsFan88
11-10-2012, 02:42 PM
The first needed step is to fire Fat Scott.

As for Marty's involvement, I am fine with Clark meeting with him for advice, but I do not want Marty involved in any official capacity with the Chiefs next front office.

Reerun_KC
11-10-2012, 04:39 PM
I'm getting the impression that Dane doesn't care for any of the Marty business. :hmmm:

Anyone with brain wouldnt want Marty either. But then again chiefs fans hang on to the failures of the 90's like a child to a blanket.

Dave Lane
11-10-2012, 04:44 PM
Anyone with a clue to why Pioli is in Providence? This seems like possible good news.

BossChief
11-10-2012, 04:46 PM
He's not trying to conceal his identity wearing a "together is powerful" shirt.

Well, it IS blue and not red, yellow or white.

3rd&48ers
11-10-2012, 04:48 PM
No Offense but if Marty is such a good candidate then why is he sitting at home?

BossChief
11-10-2012, 04:52 PM
Maybe Clark wants Marty to step in as an interim coach/gm if they want to get rid of Romeo and Scott mid season...

bevischief
11-10-2012, 04:52 PM
Just stomp on the butt, Pioli, Clark start over.

bevischief
11-10-2012, 04:59 PM
Maybe Clark wants Marty to step in as an interim coach/gm if they want to get rid of Romeo and Scott mid season...

I could live with this.

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-10-2012, 05:22 PM
You stupid fucker

Can't you all just get along? You still mad the Butt boys took the Faid's lunch money in the S.B.?

Reerun_KC
11-10-2012, 05:45 PM
I could live with this.

And the first win and you guys would be sucking him off like you did with crennel.

I would like Marty.if he was a winner or a solid talent evaluator. But he's not. So he can pound sand.

3rd&48ers
11-10-2012, 06:28 PM
Can't you all just get along? You still mad the Butt boys took the Faid's lunch money in the S.B.?


I can, I am just trying to piss him off LMAO

Brock
11-10-2012, 06:38 PM
I can, I am just trying to piss him off LMAO

You're not very good at this.

3rd&48ers
11-10-2012, 06:43 PM
You're not very good at this.

Oh yes I am

KCTitus
11-10-2012, 07:08 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted, but Im not reading 10+ pages of this thread.

Marty fought for control over personnel late in his tenure. It was his decisions that built the 1998 KC Team. A collection of thugs, malcontents and drug dealers that embarrassed themselves on national TV.

It was a team that rivaled the crap that is on the field today.

No thanks. No Marty. No!

After he left KC, he went to Washington to be the GM/Head Coach. He lasted one frigging year.

DTLB58
11-10-2012, 07:13 PM
I've said all along that what's going on in KC right now is very similar to what went on in Houston before Kubes became HC. Let me surmise...

Charley Casserly was doing his best Scott Pioli impression and had really run the Texans into the ground. He had drafted QB David Carr and stuck with him when it was painfully obvious that he was NOT going to be a franchise QB. Carr even received a $10 MILLION roster bonus after years of suckage. Casserly had MISSED on just about every first round pick and had not been able to draft, sign and develop quality depth. He had hired Dom Capers as the first HC and Capers and he did not see eye to eye several years down the road on many issues. Bob McNair (Texans Owner) knew he had a sinking ship of a franchise and brought in DAN REEVES (Just as Hunt is rumored to have done with Marty) to evaluate the state of the franchise. He made his reccomendations and Capers and Carr were let go and Reeves stuck around and "helped" Casserly pick a new HC (Kubes) and helped during the draft process, helped identify other QB popssibilities (Trading for Schaub) and stragely enough, helped pick a new GM (Rick Smith) while Charley Casserly was still serving as a lame duck GM. Then omce Smith was named GM - Casserly was GONE. Now, 6 years later the Texans are Super Bowl contenders. It took longer than expected because Casserly had missed so badly in previous drafts, that the TEXANS had virtually N-O-T-H-I-N-G to show after 5 seasons. They basically started over....:hmmm:

I believe that Hunt trusts Marty and is doing something along the the same lines that McNair did with Reeves if these rumors are true. This is the first step, in my opinion, of sweeping changes. I hope it turns out the way it did for the Texans. Just my take on things...

Thanks for the input.

NORTH PLATTE! NORTH PLATTE!

Sorry, it was the only other Nebraska town I'm familiar with. That's the game we are playing with your sig right? :evil:

Reerun_KC
11-10-2012, 07:15 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted, but Im not reading 10+ pages of this thread.

Marty fought for control over personnel late in his tenure. It was his decisions that built the 1998 KC Team. A collection of thugs, malcontents and drug dealers that embarrassed themselves on national TV.

It was a team that rivaled the crap that is on the field today.

No thanks. No Marty. No!

After he left KC, he went to Washington to be the GM/Head Coach. He lasted one frigging year.
Bones Thugs and Marty. How quickly our delusional fanbase forgets.

KCTitus
11-10-2012, 07:17 PM
Bones Thugs and Marty. How quickly our delusional fanbase forgets.

Well...to be fair, it was almost 15 years ago...some on this BB were probably in Kindergarten when he resigned.

splatbass
11-10-2012, 07:33 PM
After he left KC, he went to Washington to be the GM/Head Coach. He lasted one frigging year.

They won their last 5 games and he had it turned around. Snyder was a moron for firing him.

Then he went to SD where he went 14-2.

His record is a lot better than you are pretending.

KCTitus
11-10-2012, 07:37 PM
They won their last 5 games and he had it turned around. Snyder was a moron for firing him.

Then he went to SD where he went 14-2.

His record is a lot better than you are pretending.

Yeah, that's great...how much of SD's team did Marty bring in and how did they do in the playoffs?

I would have loved for Marty to stay in Washington. After bringing in the likes of Donnell Bennett to shore up the running game, it was only a matter of time.

Reerun_KC
11-10-2012, 07:59 PM
They won their last 5 games and he had it turned around. Snyder was a moron for firing him.

Then he went to SD where he went 14-2.

His record is a lot better than you are pretending.
Aj Smith was responsible for the players. Marty was responsible for the playoff losses.

Reerun_KC
11-10-2012, 08:00 PM
Well...to be fair, it was almost 15 years ago...some on this BB were probably in Kindergarten when he resigned.

Well the game passed Marty by in the early 2000's. He would be clueless now.

KC Tattoo
11-10-2012, 08:03 PM
No Offense but if Marty is such a good candidate then why is he sitting at home?

There is no more gleam in his eye.

InChiefsHell
11-10-2012, 08:12 PM
Well, this sucks, cuz they are potentially going back to the playbook of the 90's...which produced some fun football but not much else. Clark needs to go with fresh blood. I recognize it's a risk...and Hunt ain't in to taking risks...but damn. Not Marty. He had his shot and it didn't work out.

Chocolate Hog
11-10-2012, 08:17 PM
I could live with this.

Yeah let's try and pick 8th instead of first.

ChiefsCountry
11-10-2012, 08:19 PM
Clark could be getting information on Russ Ball.
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teedubya
11-10-2012, 08:25 PM
They actually meant that Clark met with Marty from SOC.

Sorter
11-10-2012, 09:13 PM
There is no more gleam in his eye.

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KCChiefsFan88
11-10-2012, 09:21 PM
Maybe Clark wants Marty to step in as an interim coach/gm if they want to get rid of Romeo and Scott mid season...

Romeo and Fat Scott are the Chiefs best chance to land the #1 overall pick.

Keep them through the end of the season.

kcmaxwell
11-11-2012, 12:13 AM
If it means Romeo and Pioli get fired and I get more Marty speeches then I am all in. Marty could talk me into killing someone with one of those speeches.

And bringing back some passion for our rivalry games!

kcmaxwell
11-11-2012, 12:15 AM
as much as i've yelled my distaste for herm on this site, i'd LOVE him in this capacity.

I thought the exact same thing!

bevischief
11-11-2012, 06:40 AM
And the first win and you guys would be sucking him off like you did with crennel.

I would like Marty.if he was a winner or a solid talent evaluator. But he's not. So he can pound sand.

I Have been calling for Peeholi's head since Candy gate. I would only want Marty as a temp solution this year. I only want change and wins.

DJJasonp
11-11-2012, 08:25 AM
I am no Marty lover, by any means....but I feel like there are few misnomers being perpetuated about the last few years of Marty's career:

1) He no longer was "Martyball" in San Diego....they threw the ball all over the place....he made "liberal" decisions on field position, 4th downs, etc.

2) The playoff losses in San Diego were not really his fault. Especially the New England "interception" game. If the DB falls on the ground after the late INT, rather than trying to run it back and fumbling it back to NE...the chargers probably go on to upset Brady and company.

One thing I always liked about Marty - that Pioli's reign has failed to do:

1) players always played hard for Marty
2) Marty had his teams prepared (none of this outscored 100-0 in the 1st quarter crap)


That all said, Marty is cursed....his schtick wouldnt be fresh here....and it's time to create the "chiefs way", and find the next big thing on our own.

GloryDayz
11-11-2012, 08:31 AM
Funny, ESPN just railed on the Cowboys for having a team that's a "country club" and, since JJ, nobody fears the HC because the owner is too involved. The problem with that segment is they didn't juxtapose that "deal" with, let's say, the Chiefs. Who in KC fears the HC (because our owner never shows his face)? Perhaps all "their" owner does is show his face. Ours hides, but hires people who get worse results! So don't blame the owner for being visible, or being involved, because if that's true, explain Cuban's success as an owner than. They make is too simple.. It's simple, owners hire GM who have to win, or they know they're gone. GMs hire HCs, and other coaches, who know they have to win, or they're gone. And GMs find a way to give those coaches, perhaps in concert with those coaches, to get the job done in their system. HCs and coaches bring in players who know that they must get on the field and win, or they're gone.

NO FIVE YEAR PLANS! Two, maybe three!

ncCHIEFfan
11-11-2012, 08:32 AM
I think Marty is a good leader but he is NOT a champion. Mr. Hunt please be innovative.

Bring in real change. Have a goal/dream. Be realistic and go after whom ever shares your ideas!

DJJasonp
11-11-2012, 08:40 AM
I think Marty is a good leader but he is NOT a champion. Mr. Hunt please be innovative.

Bring in real change. Have a goal/dream. Be realistic and go after whom ever shares your ideas!

you were on a roll......until the last sentence.

NO - we DONT want a GM who shares Clark's mission statement (fill seats).

We want a GM and HC who want to win championships.

Rausch
11-11-2012, 08:43 AM
I think Marty is a good leader but he is NOT a champion. Mr. Hunt please be innovative.

Bring in real change. Have a goal/dream. Be realistic and go after whom ever shares your ideas!

Again, it's not uncommon for Clark (and in his time Lamar) to meet with coaches they've worked with and respected before making a decision.

Lamar met with Marty and DV many times after Marty had resigned.

DV has been around the Chiefs long before and after he coached here as a bug in the owner's ear.

This is not a bad thing.

Marty will not be coaching here.

It's Lamar/Clark seeking advice on the next decision...

ncCHIEFfan
11-11-2012, 09:27 AM
I don't think Clark is trying to bring Marty in for GM/Coaching purposes. If Clark is going to

continue to be an NFL team owner he needs to have his own ideas about on the field

success. Growing up with Lamar and he still does not have his own KC Chiefs ideas

( not about money side of the business) then he needs to sell out. I am sure he can make a nice profit that way.

GloryDayz
11-11-2012, 09:43 AM
I don't think Clark is trying to bring Marty in for GM/Coaching purposes. If Clark is going to

continue to be an NFL team owner he needs to have his own ideas about on the field

success. Growing up with Lamar and he still does not have his own KC Chiefs ideas

( not about money side of the business) then he needs to sell out. I am sure he can make a nice profit that way.

Chunt already knows that if bringing a championship to this city is his goal, then selling to a "football savvy" owner is the fastest way to get to that goal. Yeah 610-types, I said "football" type person. If you don't know what that means relative to each person in the organization, move over to K-Love and admit that you're out of ideas and chose to argue what being a "football person" means!

That being typed, I liken Chunt's quandary to that of a lottery winner. Is he OK with a lot of money really fast, albeit less than what he could accumulate over time, or does he want less annually, but have it for a lifetime. I think he learned that the latter is what best for him. He's going to fail at almost everything he tries to do since he's a silver spoon/trust fund brat type, so the less-but-steady approach is prolly best for him.

Lost in that quandary is any real desire to work hard enough and be "boss" or "owner" enough, to be "mean" enough, to be professional enough and demand performance at all levels of the organization, starting with himself. Other than seeing a bunch of muscle-men on the field (not Eris Winston - he's a weak ass girl-****y!), and one side of muscle-men are trying to run this not-round ball to the other end. IOW I'm not sure he knows a lot about the game itself. Hey, he gets great seats, some super-awesome trips to meet with real owners who loved his dad, and many folks back at the office even suck up to him because some other guy he hired write checks for them! But they laugh at him as soon as he leaves the room.

KCChiefsFan88
11-11-2012, 11:07 AM
And bringing back some passion for our rivalry games!

Who gives a shit about passion for rivalry games?

Bring in a GM and head coach who have a passion for WINNING and rivalry games and everything else will get taken care of.

Chiefshrink
11-11-2012, 11:10 AM
has never been a talent evaluator,

you are definitely wrong on this point.

Rausch
11-11-2012, 11:14 AM
bla bla $#it I can't decipher...bla bla...

Hey, he gets great seats, some super-awesome trips to meet with real owners who loved his dad, and many folks back at the office even suck up to him because some other guy he hired write checks for them! But they laugh at him as soon as he leaves the room.

This.

YOUR FATHER TRUSTED YOU WITH THIS AND YOU HAVE FAILED HIM.

Feel about that however you want but that's the facts...

KCChiefsFan88
11-11-2012, 11:16 AM
JFC Marty hasn't been in the NFL... in ANY CAPACITY in 6 years. He isn't connected with the game anymore.

Maybe Clark should break out the Ouija board and consult with Hank Stram.

GloryDayz
11-11-2012, 11:17 AM
This.

YOUR FATHER TRUSTED YOU WITH THIS AND YOU HAVE FAILED HIM.

Feel about that however you want but that's the facts...

That too... And I could decypher it all...

Rausch
11-11-2012, 11:18 AM
JFC Marty hasn't been in the NFL... in ANY CAPACITY in 6 years. He isn't connected with the game anymore.

Maybe Clark should break out the Ouija board and consult with Hank Stram.

HE'S A FUCKING CONSULTANT!

Clark want's to make a new hire and he's bringing in a man he respects.

THE END.

THIS IS GOOD NEWS...

DaneMcCloud
11-11-2012, 11:22 AM
you are definitely wrong on this point.

You're a fucking moron.

He was allowed to choose and sign talent in 1998, which led to the Monday Night Meltdown, scumbags like Wayne Simmons and Marty's own retirement in Kansas City.

He fought with Vinny Cerato in Washington and was fired to trying to take over personnel. While he was respectful of John Butler in San Diego, once he died and A.J. Smith took over, Marty was back to his old tricks and was fired for trying to get personnel control AND for wanting to replace Wade Phillips with his brother, Kurt.

Furthermore, this is the same fucking guy that not only lobbied for Mike Junkin at #5 overall in Cleveland (and got him), he also convinced Carl to trade for him in Kansas City!

Marty doesn't know dick about personnel evaluations. He's never been a scout, regional or national, he's never been a personnel director, college or pro and he's never been a GM.

Now, kindly go back to your fucking hole, you dumb cunt.

Reerun_KC
11-11-2012, 11:22 AM
you are definitely wrong on this point.
1998 disagrees with you.

KCChiefsFan88
11-11-2012, 11:23 AM
HE'S A ****ING CONSULTANT!

Clark want's to make a new hire and he's bringing in a man he respects.

THE END.

THIS IS GOOD NEWS...

JFC he is consulting with someone who hasn't been in the league in SIX YEARS and whose philosophy of run first, pass never would fail in today's NFL.

Why not dig up Hank Stram's grave and consult with his rotting corpse? Or better yet go get the Ouija board and consult with Daddy Hunt.

These would follow the similar theme of looking to past, outdated advice for the way forward.

BossChief
11-11-2012, 11:42 AM
JFC Marty hasn't been in the NFL... in ANY CAPACITY in 6 years. He isn't connected with the game anymore.

Maybe Clark should break out the Ouija board and consult with Hank Stram.

Its not like he isnt connected at all...his kids are still coaching.

There are lots of connections out there.

Rausch
11-11-2012, 11:46 AM
JFC he is consulting with someone who hasn't been in the league in SIX YEARS and whose philosophy of run first, pass never would fail in today's NFL.

Why not dig up Hank Stram's grave and consult with his rotting corpse? Or better yet go get the Ouija board and consult with Daddy Hunt.

These would follow the similar theme of looking to past, outdated advice for the way forward.

Your handle is appropriate...

milkman
11-11-2012, 11:47 AM
This.

YOUR FATHER TRUSTED YOU WITH THIS AND YOU HAVE FAILED HIM.

Feel about that however you want but that's the facts...

His father failed the Chiefs for the last 30 years of his life.

splatbass
11-11-2012, 11:47 AM
JFC he is consulting with someone who hasn't been in the league in SIX YEARS and whose philosophy of run first, pass never would fail in today's NFL.



You must not have watched his SD team. They passed all over the place.

DaneMcCloud
11-11-2012, 11:51 AM
HE'S A FUCKING CONSULTANT!

Clark want's to make a new hire and he's bringing in a man he respects.

THE END.

THIS IS GOOD NEWS...

Sorry, I disagree.

If he were to bring in Ron Wolf, THAT would be good news.

Bringing in a guy that couldn't win in the playoffs (5-13), that hasn't worked in ANY NFL capacity since 2006 isn't anything but lame, tired thinking.

Rausch
11-11-2012, 11:56 AM
Sorry, I disagree.

If he were to bring in Ron Wolf, THAT would be good news.

Bringing in a guy that couldn't win in the playoffs (5-13), that hasn't worked in ANY NFL capacity since 2006 isn't anything but lame, tired thinking.

He's making a decision and goes to what he knows. Marty, Herm, and DV won't be considerations for a hire but I'd bet money you'll see them at the complex.

The whole Pioli thing was way out of his comfort zone.

I think he comes back to roots next hire...

DaneMcCloud
11-11-2012, 11:57 AM
I think he comes back to roots next hire...

That's what I'm afraid of...

Rausch
11-11-2012, 11:57 AM
Bringing in a guy that couldn't win in the playoffs (5-13), that hasn't worked in ANY NFL capacity since 2006 isn't anything but lame, tired thinking.

It was the guy that built the SD team and the last time anyone considered them a contender for anything...

nychief
11-11-2012, 11:59 AM
Was this confirmed by anybody? Or is this just another erroneous report?

Rausch
11-11-2012, 11:59 AM
That's what I'm afraid of...

I'm not.

You have to fucking manage the bare minimum of winning fucking games before you can complain about the playoffs.

We've de-volved so far even a fucking winning record would be astonishing...

DaneMcCloud
11-11-2012, 12:02 PM
It was the guy that built the SD team and the last time anyone considered them a contender for anything...

Dude, Marty built nothing in San Diego.

John Butler was the General Manager that built the Chargers until his death. Assistant GM A.J. Smith took over after Butler's death.

Marty LOST HIS JOB because he went to Spanos demanding personnel control. He was fired.

Just like in Cleveland. And Washington.

Marty was a great regular season coach. He was an awful playoff coach. And he didn't and doesn't know dick about scouting, selecting and signing talent.

DaneMcCloud
11-11-2012, 12:03 PM
I'm not.

You have to fucking manage the bare minimum of winning fucking games before you can complain about the playoffs.

We've de-volved so far even a fucking winning record would be astonishing...

That's just not where the bar should set. It shouldn't be set to "Win in the Regular Season".

It should be WIN THE SUPER BOWL.

Rausch
11-11-2012, 12:06 PM
Dude, Marty built nothing in San Diego.

John Butler was the General Manager that built the Chargers until his death. Assistant GM A.J. Smith took over after Butler's death.

Marty LOST HIS JOB because he went to Spanos demanding personnel control. He was fired.

Just like in Cleveland. And Washington.

Marty was a great regular season coach. He was an awful playoff coach. And he didn't and doesn't know dick about scouting, selecting and signing talent.

Way I understood it Marty a great deal of say and the big swinger until AJ came in and then came the huge conflicts...

Chocolate Hog
11-11-2012, 12:06 PM
This fan base is fucking stupid. Begging for the same thing that didn't work 15 years ago? Fucking stupid.

Reerun_KC
11-11-2012, 12:08 PM
This fan base is ****ing stupid. Begging for the same thing that didn't work 15 years ago? ****ing stupid.

You have to understand that this fanbase doesnt care if the chiefs win in the playoffs or a championship. They just want to make sure they win some regular season games at home. This way they dont upset their social hour on NFL sundays.

Rausch
11-11-2012, 12:08 PM
That's just not where the bar should set. It shouldn't be set to "Win in the Regular Season".

It should be WIN THE SUPER BOWL.

Yeah.

No $#it.

But we went from brides' maid to THE MOST PATHETIC TEAM IN THE LEAGUE.

We're not that playoff team a hop skip and jump away from contention anymore. We've had a retarded GM RUINING out team for 4 years with horrid HC's.

We are the Lions. We are the Browns. We are the Bengals now...

splatbass
11-11-2012, 12:11 PM
We are the Lions. We are the Browns. We are the Bengals now...

We are worse. Every one of them led at some point in their first 8 games even in their worst years.

milkman
11-11-2012, 12:14 PM
Way I understood it Marty a great deal of say and the big swinger until AJ came in and then came the huge conflicts...

That is a misunderstanding.

John Butler was the decision maker, and had final say in the draft and free agency.

O.city
11-11-2012, 12:14 PM
He met with a guy he ultimately trusts more than anyone when it comes to football. He's not going to hire the guy to be the gm.


Of course you are going to take advice from someone you trusts, we would all do the same.

It's just that most here don't think it would be good advice. Clark is doing the right thing, just maybe with the wrong person

Rausch
11-11-2012, 12:15 PM
He met with a guy he ultimately trusts more than anyone when it comes to football. He's not going to hire the guy to be the gm.


Of course you are going to take advice from someone you trusts, we would all do the same.

It's just that most here don't think it would be good advice. Clark is doing the right thing, just maybe with the wrong person

This.

From the lips of a n00b...

DaneMcCloud
11-11-2012, 12:16 PM
Way I understood it Marty a great deal of say and the big swinger until AJ came in and then came the huge conflicts...

Dude, A.J. Smith was there the entire time. He was the Assistant GM to John Butler.

Smith and Schottenheimer never got along. Schottemheimer tried to pull a power play (again) and lost. He was fired.

splatbass
11-11-2012, 12:16 PM
That's just not where the bar should set. It shouldn't be set to "Win in the Regular Season".

It should be WIN THE SUPER BOWL.

"What's that? Ah -- Super Bowl? Don't talk about -- Super Bowl?! You kidding me?! Super Bowl?! I just hope we can LEAD in a game!

We are so far from a Super Bowl it is not funny. You can't run until you learn to walk. We are infants that can't take a step yet and you are talking about winning a marathon.

Rausch
11-11-2012, 12:18 PM
Smith and Schottenheimer never got along. Schottemheimer tried to pull a power play (again) and lost. He was fired.

How'd that work out for SD?...

Rausch
11-11-2012, 12:19 PM
"What's that? Ah -- Super Bowl? Don't talk about -- Super Bowl?! You kidding me?! Super Bowl?! I just hope we can LEAD in a game!

We are so far from a Super Bowl it is not funny.

Yet we have fans begging for College coaches and position coaches...

Reerun_KC
11-11-2012, 12:21 PM
How'd that work out for SD?...

How did it work for Marty?

Name one scenerio where Marty previaled victorious with player control.

Reerun_KC
11-11-2012, 12:22 PM
Yet we have fans begging for College coaches and position coaches...

Yet we have people begging for and defending proven failure.

Strange huh?

Rausch
11-11-2012, 12:22 PM
How did it work for Marty?

Name one scenerio where Marty previaled victorious with player control.

Name one team that had a better season after Marty left.

He's no genius. He had some serious setbacks.

By the time he got to SD he worried me. He had the QB. He was dangerous...

splatbass
11-11-2012, 12:23 PM
How'd that work out for SD?...

Exactly. They fired a coach that always gets his players to play their best for a coach whose players always underachieve. Great move!

Rausch
11-11-2012, 12:25 PM
Yet we have people begging for and defending proven failure.

Strange huh?

Indeed.

SB winning coaches are "castoffs" or "retreads" and College coaches who sniff the top 10 are suddenly "prospects."

Reerun_KC
11-11-2012, 12:25 PM
Name one team that had a better season after Marty left.

He's no genius. He had some serious setbacks.

By the time he got to SD he worried me. He had the QB. He was dangerous...

ROFL

YET he FAILED like he always does...

And if I remember correctly, Norv Turner, Yes Norv Turner took SD to an AFC Championship game after Marty left.

Marty got a QB and was dangerous? ROFL That was absolutely one of the funniest things anyone has ever read on here... Well done.

Reerun_KC
11-11-2012, 12:26 PM
Indeed.

SB winning coaches are "castoffs" or "retreads" and College coaches who sniff the top 10 are suddenly "prospects."

So now Marty is a SB winning coach?