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DTLB58
11-10-2012, 12:06 PM
http://www.examiner.net/sports/sports_columnists/x2112091078/Tim-Crone-Chiefs-must-get-back-to-Midwest-mentality?zc_p=0

Thought this was pretty good.

The best part was the last paragraph, his quote this week. :clap:

BCD
11-10-2012, 12:38 PM
Sorry, that article is no longer available

Cool story, bro

Mr. Laz
11-10-2012, 12:40 PM
A big-shot attitude shoved down the throats of the Kansas City fans simply won’t fly! They won’t tolerate anyone from the East Coast or anywhere else setting tailgate rules and regulations. They’re tired of eating “potty sandwiches” from the owner and general manager. Midwesterners remember where they came from and expect some basics: great effort, a solid team philosophy and organization leaders who do not blow smoke and who will allow them to enjoy their love of Chiefs football the way they always have.


meh ... who cares, just win.

petegz28
11-10-2012, 12:41 PM
For the cut and paste challenged:

Oak Grove, MO —



Kansas City fans, sportswriters and talk-show hosts all seem to have an opinion about the dismal Chiefs season. Blame has been placed on the coaches, quarterback, lack of effort, poor drafts, etc. Endless discussions have gone on for the past two months.

Most likely, all of these reasons hold some truth for the demise of a good, solid NFL franchise. I have kept game stats for all home games for the television stations for the past 26 years. It has given me the opportunity to be present in the press box for media discussions and to watch the power brokers of the team work and react every game day. I’ve seen all of the good and bad years. The NFL is a dog-eat-dog business that demands success.

Beginning two and a half years ago, I began to have a growing concern about the Chiefs organization.

The culture began to change – not just on the field of play, but among the fans in the parking lot and the people working at the stadium, like ticket takers, security, etc. The organization decided to place all of their eggs into a new basket, the New England way. It’s not unusual for any business to copy a successful business model. The problem is that the new regime does not appear to have an understanding of the existing culture.

The Kansas City Chiefs team is a Midwest team with Midwest fans who have a Midwest mentality. It is in the heart of America, which is quite different from the East and West coasts. Midwesterners like people who are good to people, work hard, and bring their “A” game to work every day.

Conversely, Midwesterners are not likely to take kindly to outsiders coming in with all the answers and with criticism of all that has come before with the team. Kansas City-area fans are salt of the Earth people who do not accept arrogance and a holier-than-thou attitude from people who never proved that they had any answers at all.

A big-shot attitude shoved down the throats of the Kansas City fans simply won’t fly! They won’t tolerate anyone from the East Coast or anywhere else setting tailgate rules and regulations. They’re tired of eating “potty sandwiches” from the owner and general manager. Midwesterners remember where they came from and expect some basics: great effort, a solid team philosophy and organization leaders who do not blow smoke and who will allow them to enjoy their love of Chiefs football the way they always have.

Winning has a way of making a lot of things go away but the organization needs to understand the culture and expectations of their Midwestern fan base.


n My quote this week is from the English essayist, William Hazlett, “Where you cannot drive you can always persuade. A gentle word, a kind look, a good-natured smile can work wonders and accomplish miracles. There is a secret pride in every human heart that revolts at tyranny. You may order and drive an individual but you cannot make him respect you.” The Chiefs organization should take heed.

3rd&48ers
11-10-2012, 12:46 PM
Midwest-mentality? What is this? Sheep Fuckers?

KCUnited
11-10-2012, 12:54 PM
Pretty sure letting high priced FAs walk, vilifying receivers for flexing, and "fixing the Oline" over a 1st round QB, is the Midwest mentality.

JoeyChuckles
11-10-2012, 12:54 PM
http://d2om8tvz4lgco4.cloudfront.net/archive/x1946826592/g12c000000000000000205a35dbe2ed91938261488782fa2a43ff515cd8.jpg

You forgot to post the writer's picture, which for some reason is almost as big as the article.

BoneKrusher
11-10-2012, 01:03 PM
first the Chiefs must hire a GM, Draft or get a Decent QB and then hire a new coaching staff.

damn we're 5-10 years away from even thinking about the Playoffs..

Chiefshrink
11-10-2012, 01:07 PM
I liked it and agree wholeheartedly.

Dale Carnegie good.

chiefzilla1501
11-10-2012, 01:17 PM
This is absolutely right.

Arrowhead is a huge competitive advantage. Pioli has been such a dick that fans don't connect to the players anymore.

We have some really good players like Bowe, Hali, or Jamaal Charles. How many of them are even close to as well liked as a fucking guard like Brian Waters? It's sad when a Guard is a lot more popular than elite talent.

kcfanXIII
11-10-2012, 01:19 PM
I have to agree with what he is saying, even if he isn't going to win any awards for style. This guy was my football coach when i was in high school btw. best coach i ever had.

Douche Baggins
11-10-2012, 01:20 PM
Actually, it's cool if our next GM is a dick.

He just needs to be competent.

ElGringo
11-10-2012, 02:01 PM
Actually, it's cool if our next GM is a dick.

He just needs to be competent.

I think the author agrees with you when he says "Winning has a way of making a lot of things go away but the organization needs to understand the culture and expectations of their Midwestern fan base." I read this to say, if you win, you can attempt to change the culture to the "Patriot Way", but Pioli isn't winning, so you have to respect the fans, the culture, the way we have always done things and respected, celebrated this team. If Pioli wasn't such a dick, communicated with the fans, I don't think he would be vilified (sp) as much as he is now.

Douche Baggins
11-10-2012, 02:04 PM
Agree completely, but that doesn't mean the next guy needs to be a nice guy.

Sometimes it takes an asshole to get the job done.

The key is the asshole has to be good at his job instead of historically inept.

aturnis
11-10-2012, 02:07 PM
Agreed. Pioli's money saving style of cutting off charitable related things, screwing firemen, and not letting parking and gate employees watch the game is ridiculous.

Brock
11-10-2012, 02:09 PM
Chiefs need to get back to winning. all else irrelevant

chiefzilla1501
11-10-2012, 02:14 PM
Agreed. Pioli's money saving style of cutting off charitable related things, screwing firemen, and not letting parking and gate employees watch the game is ridiculous.

Exactly. I know people hate true fans. But the fact is, when this team is likeable, it makes Arrowhead that much louder.

I don't want this to become a country club. I want a dick of a GM that's good at building teams, but also wants to open the team up to the fans again.

aturnis
11-10-2012, 02:14 PM
http://d2om8tvz4lgco4.cloudfront.net/archive/x1946826592/g12c000000000000000205a35dbe2ed91938261488782fa2a43ff515cd8.jpg

You forgot to post the writer's picture, which for some reason is almost as big as the article.

Pioli - glasses + smile = this guy?

KCChiefsFan88
11-10-2012, 09:29 PM
Exactly. I know people hate true fans. But the fact is, when this team is likeable, it makes Arrowhead that much louder.

Spare us your Kumbaya bullshit.

When the Chiefs WIN, and win consistently like they did in the '90s, the Arrowhead advantage will return.

DaneMcCloud
11-10-2012, 09:30 PM
Exactly. I know people hate true fans. But the fact is, when this team is likeable, it makes Arrowhead that much louder.

I don't want this to become a country club. I want a dick of a GM that's good at building teams, but also wants to open the team up to the fans again.

You're a fucking moron.

The TRUE FANS NEVER LEFT ARROWHEAD.

JFC, you're so fucking dumb.

ChiefMojo
11-10-2012, 10:09 PM
True Fans are still sitting in their sits regardless of the crap being displayed.

It doesn't matter if the GM is a a**hole or not but yes winning is all that matters in the end. But I do agree with the author that you have to give a little back to the fans and not treat us like sh*t. I've harped on it many of times, no matter how you feel about Carl, he knew what he was doing in cultivating a atmosphere of togetherness. The way the team/players interacted with the fan base was top notch. Pioli comes in and there is a iron wall that goes up between the organization and the fan base... that doesn't fly with people with Midwestern roots. Can you picture the front offices in Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, etc. doing that to their fan bases???

Sorter
11-10-2012, 10:30 PM
What is really funny about this "Patriot-Way" bullshit to me is that the Pats have a weekly video of Belichick breaking down impact plays. The Pats don't even operate in the complete level of secrecy Pioli does.

ROFL

chiefzilla1501
11-10-2012, 11:45 PM
True Fans are still sitting in their sits regardless of the crap being displayed.

It doesn't matter if the GM is a a**hole or not but yes winning is all that matters in the end. But I do agree with the author that you have to give a little back to the fans and not treat us like sh*t. I've harped on it many of times, no matter how you feel about Carl, he knew what he was doing in cultivating a atmosphere of togetherness. The way the team/players interacted with the fan base was top notch. Pioli comes in and there is a iron wall that goes up between the organization and the fan base... that doesn't fly with people with Midwestern roots. Can you picture the front offices in Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, etc. doing that to their fan bases???

So where are we disagreeing, and why am I getting shit for it?

The skeptics are always going to question the team's direction. Pioli turned true fans into obligated fans. They root for the team out of obligation, not because they love the team. During the Peterson years, they turned guards like Brian Waters into superstars.

SNR
11-11-2012, 01:09 AM
What's-with-the-dashes-why-not-use-the-spacebar?