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gblowfish
11-13-2012, 12:57 PM
Ten Things About Last Night's Game

10. Well, look on the bright side. It wasn't a blowout. The Chiefs didn't get blown out 55-3 or worse, as everyone expected. But that's a back handed compliment to a team who is now 1-8. Kind of like saying "she doesn't sweat much for a fat chick." The Steelers have a lot more questions than we do. The Pittsburgh Gazette says Rapistburger went to a local hospital last night for an MRI on his ribs, and he's doubtful for their showdown game next week vs. Baltimore. It wasn't Benny Hill Music time until overtime, and I guess that's progress. This is the second time we've taken a better team into OT, on the road, and we're 1-1. Still winless at home, but playing better on the road. So hooray for moral victories, I suppose.

9. The Chiefs defense has been averaging giving up better than 30 points per game. Giving up 13 in regulation ought to be enough to win, and would have been, had two KC TD's not been called back. Succop misses a 33 yard field goal, or we most likely win in regulation. The defense played as good a game as they did in Arrowhead against Baltimore. Just not good enough to win in Pittsburgh. Props to Gary Gibbs for coaching better defensively than the head coach Kung Pao Panda, who is supposed to be a defensive whiz. Defense held Steelers to under 100 yards rushing, 154 yards passing, forced three fumbles and got one of them, and did a decent job denying on third down, Pittsburgh was 6-16. I think the reason the game was so close was a combination of KC's defense playing very well, and Pittsburgh's offense playing poorly. It's sad that once Rapistburger was knocked out, we couldn't overcome an erratic Byron Leftwitch to win. It took Captain Checkdown's patented panicked pressure pants pissing to secure the win by Pittsburgh's makeshift defense. We certainly didn't play against their best guys.

8. A lot has been made about the Chiefs lack of discipline and focus all year long. Seems like every time you get a "player friendly coach," when things go south, the inmates start to run the asylum. The Chiefs had one five yard penalty in the first half. Manieri jumped off sides and was summarily given a diva-like lecture by Eric "Big Gay Al" Winston. But that was the only penalty, and no turnovers in the first half. Second half, Chiefs get five penalties for 71 yards, including the monumentally stupid "End Zone Soul-Train Dance Party." When Bowe wasn't dropping passes, he was taunting the Steelers and pointing at his back after not scoring because of a Fat Albert holding penalty (and yes, he WAS holding). Where do these guys with a 1-8 record, get off taunting ANYBODY over ANYTHING? It was clueless, and extremely Raiders-eque. Especially getting a 15-yard unsportsmanlike penalty for group celebration on a TD that wasn't. The penalty sustained the drive for Pittsburgh. So not only do you not get a TD, you give up a first down on a monumentally STUPID penalty. And all the defensive leaders were in the middle of that: Hali, Houston, Johnson, Flowers..they were all there. Not ONE OF THEM said "Hey guys, let's take this to the sidelines." Stupid Stupid Stupid. And none of the coaches crawled up their ass about it either. Again, inmates running the asylum.

7. Charles had 100 yard on 23 carries. Most of those ran right over Winston. They ran that play over and over and over until Pittsburgh started to stuff it. Hillis looks like a white, slower, less illusive Thomas Jones. He has been piss poor on third and short. He was brought in here to make those tough yards, and he consistently fails to produce. Meanwhile our blocking back is a 210 pound Eachus Midget. God knows why we couldn't keep big backs like Mike Cox, or Jackie Battle, or LeRon McClain as a lead fullback. Hell, put Manieri or Poe back there and let him lead block. We've got to have somebody who can move a frickin' pile on third and short. At least they gave Charles a chance to break a run. The Steelers did a nice job keeping him from cracking a big one. His longest carry was twelve yards.

6. We saw good Bowe and bad Bowe. Good Bowe makes a clutch 4th down catch across the middle to allow Succop to kick the game tying field goal. Bad Bowe dropped multiple balls. He only caught four of the nine passes thrown his way. Baldwin pisses himself when given a chance, only has one catch all night. Moeaki has one nice catch for 38 yards, but also has a costly PI penalty in the final minute drive that could have cost us the game. (That call was questionable, btw.) Casshole was Casshole. More on him later.

5. The refs did us no favors, but were not the reason we lost. They sure didn't help. This game was the opposite of the New Orleans game where we got every close call. This time, we got none. The fumble TD was overturned to an incomplete pass and a 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. Hali was called for a phantom helmet to helmet hit on Leftwitch which was BS. There was a mystery defensive PI call on Arenas late in the game. Then an offensive PI call on Moeaki in the last minute of regulation. Hell, even when Pittsburgh was trying to run for a game ending first down, the line judge scooted the ball forward at least two extra feet, but they were still short by a foot and punted. I've said for years, that bad teams get bad calls. Good teams get good help. The NFL has no interest in KC winning in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh in the playoff hunt is good for ratings. So as that Round Mound of Mount Oread Mark Mangino once said: "DOLLAR SIGNS!"

4. One thing you can say about Captain Checkdown, aka the Duke of Dink, aka The 63-Million Dollar Fetal Man is, he is consistently bad in the clutch. His first pass in the OT was telegraphed into triple coverage. It was a panic throw aimed at Bowe. The line did a reasonably good job protecting Casshole. He went full fetal early in the first quarter, made a couple of decent runs to get out of the pocket, but only threw for 154 yards. Moreover, the Chiefs were three and out on their first three drives in the fourth quarter, and didn't manage to score until the desperation final drive and the Succop field goal. When given the ball with a chance to win, Casshole immediately and thoroughly pissed himself. But, that's why Casshole is Casshole, and that's why the fans hate him.

3. Why was Steve Breaston inactive? This is a highly paid free agent. Paid more than Copper, that's for sure. Why is he not available, especially when Baldwin gets knocked out and Bowe gets the dropsies? Breaston grew up in the Pittsburgh area, so you know he'd be psyched to play on MNF in his hometown. He's been ruined for the year. Yet Wylie, a mid round rookie, is active, and only used on kickoff returns? I don't get it. I just don't get it.

2. Derrick Johnson played a great game with 13 tackles. Houston played well and almost had a game breaking defensive TD. Flowers played well, only giving up the circus catch TD to Wallace. The defense was tough and looked like an NFL defense for one of the few times this year. I hope they can build from that momentum, although I'm very concerned with Berry's lack of coverage ability. I think his knee is much worse than the Chiefs are letting on. He may be another year away from being fully healthy.

1. At least we broke the 495 minute no lead streak. Hey, we didn't win, but we certainly made Haley sweat. A loss is a loss, and who woulda thunk it….1-8 at this point of the season? As far as the Head Coach chopping block, Paul Wiggin was fired after seven games in 1977. Haley was fired after 13 games in 2011, and that was with a 5-8 record. Will Kung Pao Panda survive the whole year? At this point, I say, why not? What's the difference? Nobody worth a crap is going to want to limp this spittoon full of failure juice to the finish line. Just continue to Blow for Barkley or go One and Fifteen-oh For Geno. Not much point to it now. There is nothing to hope for, no reason to live. The blackout looms. I believe it's always darkest before it goes completely black! Sunday's coming, and I love me a good funeral.

okoye35chiefs
11-13-2012, 12:59 PM
stupid "End Zone Soul-Train Dance Party

hence Romeo's new sign in the locker room:

eliminate bad dancing

Pestilence
11-13-2012, 01:00 PM
Breaston was inactive because they were not going to let a Haley player show up in the game.

Pestilence
11-13-2012, 01:01 PM
And the only reason that game was close was because we knocked Ben out and the weather was shitty.

alpha_omega
11-13-2012, 01:05 PM
Thanks George...i am sure these are becoming difficult to write....but we appreciate it.

Romeo's Pants
11-13-2012, 01:07 PM
Captain Checkdown's patented panicked pressure pants

Pioli's Pet Project Pisses Pants; Pittsburgh Prevails

Woodchuck
11-13-2012, 01:08 PM
Breaston was inactive because they were not going to let a Haley player show up in the game.

Copper was a Haley player.

milkman
11-13-2012, 01:09 PM
The "mystery" PI call on Javier Arenas was textbook PI.

Got his hand on the receiver and never looked back at the ball.

Pestilence
11-13-2012, 01:16 PM
Copper was a Haley player.

Copper is not a threat to steal reps from Baldwin or McCluster.

Rain Man
11-13-2012, 01:16 PM
Copper was a Haley player.

Actually, he's an SNR player.

JASONSAUTO
11-13-2012, 01:23 PM
And the only reason that game was close was because we knocked Ben out and the weather was shitty.

Lol. We played in that shitty weather and also are the reason Ben wasn't playing at the end.
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Frazod
11-13-2012, 01:34 PM
When we play a league darling like Pittsburgh or Green Bay, we have to score enough points to be beat them and the ref$. We scored enough to beat the $tealer$ - we didn't, sadly, score enough to beat their pinstriped fucking lackey cunt bitches otherwise known laughlingly as referees. They did everything in their power to ensure a $tealer victory. As usual.

I hope Rapelessburger is out for the season. Fuck them.

TEX
11-13-2012, 01:36 PM
I'm very concerned with Berry's lack of coverage ability. I think his knee is much worse than the Chiefs are letting on. He may be another year away from being fully healthy.

You're right. He could cover much better at the later stages of his rookie season. IMO, there is definately something wrong.

burt
11-13-2012, 01:39 PM
G,

You are more entertaining than the Chiefs!!!!

Thanks!!!!!!!!!

The Apostle
11-13-2012, 01:42 PM
Never been more embarassed by my team than that lame side-show fairy dance in the endzone. I hate this shit.

rabblerouser
11-13-2012, 01:43 PM
I feel sorry for Steve Breaston - he came here specifically to play for Todd Haley. Dude is a consumate pro who wanted to play for a guy who didn't settle for 'good enough', but DEMANDED greatness...and now, he's sitting on the bench (or not even suiting up) while Baldwin pisses himself and jumps for an underthrown ball that he meets on the way down and drops anyway and McCluster catches 3-5yd outs.

Breaston is easily the 2nd best WR on the team, and while he isn't as talented or as physically gifted as Bowe, may be more consistant.

Of course, now that Haley's gone, he might suck now too.

DJ's left nut
11-13-2012, 01:45 PM
stupid "End Zone Soul-Train Dance Party

hence Romeo's new sign in the locker room:

eliminate bad dancing

"Dance like no one is winning"

rabblerouser
11-13-2012, 01:48 PM
You're right. He could cover much better at the later stages of his rookie season. IMO, there is definately something wrong.

for sure.

It's stupid to play him at this point; he needs to rest that knee.

Didn't it take Jerome Woods a full year to get back up to speed after missing a year?? A lot of people need a full year to recover from ACL surgery, then a full year to get back to 'game shape', as in, getting their injured parts back to where they were before injury. AP and JC are the exceptions, not the rule.

Honestly, I expected JC to have more trouble, because speed is so huge to his game...he won't be 100% until next year, either.

I don't what to say about Moeaki.

Woodchuck
11-13-2012, 01:50 PM
Breaston is gone next year and Baldwin is probably not. It's good they are playing him. Also, it was his homecoming last night and they thought if he was ever going to do anything it would be last night.

He almost did something and that seems to be the story with Baldwin.

notorious
11-13-2012, 01:51 PM
When we play a league darling like Pittsburgh or Green Bay, we have to score enough points to be beat them and the ref$. We scored enough to beat the $tealer$ - we didn't, sadly, score enough to beat their pinstriped ****ing lackey **** bitches otherwise known laughlingly as referees. They did everything in their power to ensure a $tealer victory. As usual.

I hope Rapelessburger is out for the season. **** them.

I love it.

Your hate for the Steelers rivals my own.

rabblerouser
11-13-2012, 01:51 PM
Breaston is gone next year and Baldwin is probably not. It's good they are playing him. Also, it was his homecoming last night and they thought if he was ever going to do anything it would be last night.

He almost did something and that seems to be the story with Baldwin.

Breaston's hometown, too...

TEX
11-13-2012, 01:58 PM
for sure.

It's stupid to play him at this point; he needs to rest that knee.

Didn't it take Jerome Woods a full year to get back up to speed after missing a year?? A lot of people need a full year to recover from ACL surgery, then a full year to get back to 'game shape', as in, getting their injured parts back to where they were before injury. AP and JC are the exceptions, not the rule.

Honestly, I expected JC to have more trouble, because speed is so huge to his game...he won't be 100% until next year, either.

I don't what to say about Moeaki.

Yep. I think Moeaki's knee is effecting his hands...

Woodchuck
11-13-2012, 01:59 PM
Breaston's hometown, too...

He played at Michigan.

Chocolate Hog
11-13-2012, 02:00 PM
"Dance like no one is winning"


ROFL

Bwana
11-13-2012, 02:00 PM
Outstanding

rabblerouser
11-13-2012, 02:01 PM
He played at Michigan.

He went to Woodland Hills High School; i.e. he literally grew up in Pittsburg.

rabblerouser
11-13-2012, 02:01 PM
Yep. I think Moeaki's knee is effecting his hands...


And his eyesight.

lcarus
11-13-2012, 02:03 PM
Thanks, always enjoy reading these. Matt Cassel made the best clutch play I've seen him make, and then did a 180 and lost the game for us. Oh Cassel....

ARROW2
11-13-2012, 02:06 PM
Enough about the dancing!!! If that was the game winner would you care? Why it gotta be a "Soul Train Line" dance? Like I said, there are racial overtones in these statements. They made a play and were excited, so ****in what?

Sorter
11-13-2012, 02:07 PM
Enough about the dancing!!! If that was the game winner would you care? Why it gotta be a "Soul Train Line" dance? Like I said, there are racial overtones in these statements. They made a play and were excited, so ****in what?

ROFL, ok.

gblowfish
11-13-2012, 02:08 PM
Enough about the dancing!!! If that was the game winner would you care? Why it gotta be a "Soul Train Line" dance? Like I said, there are racial overtones in these statements. They made a play and were excited, so ****in what?

If you don't get how stupid this is, then its no use trying to explain it to you. I'd call it a Baptist Dance Party, but Baptists have no rhythm. Does that make you feel any better???

ARROW2
11-13-2012, 02:10 PM
If you don't get how stupid this is, then its no use trying to explain it to you. I'd call it a Baptist Dance Party, but Baptists have no rhythm. Does that make you feel any better???


No but ya girl makes me feel good when giving me brain. It's stupid focusing on an end zone celebration.......

whoman69
11-13-2012, 02:28 PM
Interesting take on Poe as a short yardage back.

I don't think RAC will be replaced. The only coach on the team that could take over would be Emmitt Thomas. The would leave the defensive coaches stretched pretty tightly.

Tonight they stopped the turnovers but replaced them with stupid penalties. The celebration penalty is just a no brainer.

I thought Gruden had a pretty good take on the Chiefs talent and lack their of.

mcaj22
11-13-2012, 03:11 PM
i dont think there is anything wrong with Berry

the problems with Berry are what are around him....

1) recovering from injury, but you cant blame it all on a bad knee and give him a pass and think next year he will get it. he is fine right now

2) lack of talent around him: He literally has Brandon Flowers to his left and THATS IT in coverage. Kendrick Lewis is ****ing terrible, Abe Elam, Travis Daniels, Jalil Brown, Javier Arenas and then NO LBer that can cover the middle to save their lives. Eric Berry gets lost a lot in coverage because of so many blown assignments by these other guys. TEs come over the middle, or release on a out or post, HB delay and release for checkdowns are always wide open.

3) Scheme and Coaching: The coaches are shit and the scheme is awful. He would be better in a 43 or attacking 34. Or a cover 2 where he is playing a Mark Barron role. The guy plays some wannabe Charles Woodson falcon role and he is awful at it. Its only his 2nd year in the league pretty much and this crappy coaching staff thinks hes a 13 year veteran and expect the world from him. They think he's Ed Reed, and hes clearly not. And hes doing way too much with way too little around him

Sorter
11-13-2012, 03:13 PM
Berry has never been that fantastic in man coverage.

He has flashes but you can't expect him to lock people down by himself.

mcaj22
11-13-2012, 03:15 PM
and thats the problem. they think hes charles woodson and can make reads to lock on man with whatever is floating free

Woodchuck
11-13-2012, 03:39 PM
Berry has never been that fantastic in man coverage.

He has flashes but you can't expect him to lock people down by himself.

I don't know sorter. He did pretty damn good against Sproyles in New Orleans. He gave up like one catch at the beginning of the game and was one on one with him all day. He did struggle against Gates but he wasn't completely healthy imo. I think he will get better in man coverage as time goes on. He plays in man coverage quite a bit. What is weird is that he seems to fair better against RBs and WRs than he does against TEs.

rabblerouser
11-13-2012, 04:02 PM
Enough about the dancing!!! If that was the game winner would you care? Why it gotta be a "Soul Train Line" dance? Like I said, there are racial overtones in these statements. They made a play and were excited, so ****in what?

:shake:

you're kidding, right??

Count Alex's Wins
11-13-2012, 04:06 PM
We had 15 yards on 12 plays during a stretch in the second half. 4 possessions.

Casshole will never change.

rabblerouser
11-13-2012, 04:08 PM
No but ya girl makes me feel good when giving me brain. It's stupid focusing on an end zone celebration.......

WTF is THIS shit!!??

neg rep.

rabblerouser
11-13-2012, 04:09 PM
Berry has never been that fantastic in man coverage.

He has flashes but you can't expect him to lock people down by himself.

He's not even close to 100% out there - you'd think his coaches would realize this...

rabblerouser
11-13-2012, 04:12 PM
i dont think there is anything wrong with Berry

the problems with Berry are what are around him....

1) recovering from injury, but you cant blame it all on a bad knee and give him a pass and think next year he will get it. he is fine right now

2) lack of talent around him: He literally has Brandon Flowers to his left and THATS IT in coverage. Kendrick Lewis is ****ing terrible, Abe Elam, Travis Daniels, Jalil Brown, Javier Arenas and then NO LBer that can cover the middle to save their lives. Eric Berry gets lost a lot in coverage because of so many blown assignments by these other guys. TEs come over the middle, or release on a out or post, HB delay and release for checkdowns are always wide open.

3) Scheme and Coaching: The coaches are shit and the scheme is awful. He would be better in a 43 or attacking 34. Or a cover 2 where he is playing a Mark Barron role. The guy plays some wannabe Charles Woodson falcon role and he is awful at it. Its only his 2nd year in the league pretty much and this crappy coaching staff thinks hes a 13 year veteran and expect the world from him. They think he's Ed Reed, and hes clearly not. And hes doing way too much with way too little around him

^ this

Phobia
11-13-2012, 04:20 PM
I don't what to say about Moeaki.

I thought Moeaki had his best game of the season yesterday.

scho63
11-13-2012, 04:21 PM
Ten Things About Last Night's Game

10. Well, look on the bright side. It wasn't a blowout. Still winless at home, but playing better on the road. So hooray for moral victories, I suppose.
It is sad that this is our only salvation out of the Chiefs these days; moral victories and no home field advantage at all.

9. Giving up 13 in regulation ought to be enough to win, and would have been, had two KC TD's not been called back. Succop misses a 33 yard field goal. The defense played as good a game as they did in Arrowhead against Baltimore.I think the reason the game was so close was a combination of KC's defense playing very well, and Pittsburgh's offense playing poorly.
Succop is starting to scare me a bit and he seems a little less reliable each week. In addition, there really was only one TD called back on the hold. The defensive TD was easily an incomplete pass and not even close IMHO.

8. Second half, Chiefs get five penalties for 71 yards, including the monumentally stupid "End Zone Soul-Train Dance Party." When Bowe wasn't dropping passes, he was taunting the Steelers and pointing at his back. Where do these guys with a 1-8 record, get off taunting ANYBODY over ANYTHING? It was clueless, and extremely Raiders-eque. Especially getting a 15-yard unsportsmanlike penalty for group celebration on a TD that wasn't. The penalty sustained the drive for Pittsburgh. So not only do you not get a TD, you give up a first down on a monumentally STUPID penalty.
Couldn't agree with you more on this. That 15 yard penalty was a HUGE momentum killer and just about as dumb as they come. Romeo should fine all the guys who participated $10,000.

7. Charles had 100 yard on 23 carries. Hillis looks like a white, slower, less illusive Thomas Jones.
Hillis should not be here next year-period.

6. We saw good Bowe and bad Bowe.He only caught four of the nine passes thrown his way. Baldwin pisses himself when given a chance.
Bowe can't help himself, he just is not an elite receiver IMHO. He either "thrills ya or kills ya" as Herm Edwards once said about Tyler Thigpen. Baldwin is turning into another Pioli bust and looks to be hurt. Probably out for a while.

5. The refs did us no favors, but were not the reason we lost. They sure didn't help.
I didn't feel they were too egregious except Moeaki's push off PI was a cheap call.

4. That's why Casshole is Casshole, and that's why the fans hate him.
Don't want to waste anymore time on this chump other than to say "DITTO"

3. Why was Steve Breaston inactive? I just don't get it.
They way they juggle the lineup is indeed strange and another reason I think Romeo and staff sucks.

2. Derrick Johnson played a great game with 13 tackles. Houston played well, Flowers played well, defense was tough. I'm very concerned with Berry's lack of coverage ability.
Agree, agree, agree, agree, and agree

1. At least we broke the 495 minute no lead streak.Will Kung Pao Panda survive the whole year? At this point, I say, why not? What's the difference? Nobody worth a crap is going to want to limp this spittoon full of failure juice to the finish line.
Taking the lead was anti-climatic and when it was 10-0, I thought we were on our way to blowing the #1 but alas it was Matty Cakes to the rescue. I don't want Romeo fired to the end of the year along with Pioli. Let a new GM pick the HC and draft our #1 QBOTF.


It was exceptionally odd last night trying to watch this game. I was like a bi-polar Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. I want them to lose, I want them now to win, I want them to lose, I want them to win.....by the end of the night I didn't know who the hell I was rooting for anymore.

I guess that is what it's like as a Chiefs fan these days. :shrug:

Once again, kudos to Gblowfish but that is par for the course!

Phobia
11-13-2012, 04:25 PM
I'm not conflicted at all. While they're playing, I hope and cheer for a win. When the thing is over, I return to reality.

JASONSAUTO
11-13-2012, 04:27 PM
^ this

Huh? Your prior post disagrees with the post you just "this'd"
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HemiEd
11-13-2012, 04:46 PM
Anyone else besides me think that Baldwins injury play was actually a reception? It sure looked like it to me.

gblowfish
11-13-2012, 04:59 PM
Anyone else besides me think that Baldwins injury play was actually a reception? It sure looked like it to me.

Yes, I thought that was a catch. Ground caused the fumble.

PACHIEFSFAN
11-13-2012, 05:29 PM
Anyone else besides me think that Baldwins injury play was actually a reception? It sure looked like it to me.

I believe it absolutely was a reception. He had possession when he hit the ground while being touched by the defender before releasing the ball.

Ace Gunner
11-13-2012, 05:32 PM
well written, George. I agree there is no point in firing RC mid season, but I will once again say the Chiefs would have an advantage going into the last weeks with a GM vacancy by allowing the next guy time to ponder what is here and what needs replacing.

Coogs
11-13-2012, 05:36 PM
Anyone else besides me think that Baldwins injury play was actually a reception? It sure looked like it to me.

Yes. Couldn't believe we didn't throw the challange flag.

mnchiefsguy
11-13-2012, 05:41 PM
Honestly, I do not believe Baldwin is ever going to do anything for this team unless we get a QB that can actually throw the ball to him.

chieffan09
11-13-2012, 05:43 PM
Is it me, or do the steelers win more games than any other team when they get outplayed?friggn hate the steelers.

notorious
11-13-2012, 05:49 PM
Honestly, I do not believe Baldwin is ever going to do anything for this team unless we get a QB that can actually throw the ball to him.

He can't get seperation.


Slow with no quickness = BUST

Halfcan
11-13-2012, 05:50 PM
did Poe do anything? I just saw the last half of the game- he only ended up with one tackle-lol Is he even getting a push up the middle??

What is up with this guy??

PACHIEFSFAN
11-13-2012, 05:52 PM
I am not a fan of Fatal Fetal Cassell, but I watched that last pass several times in slo-mo and freeze frame by frame. It started as a tight spiral until it passed the DL's out stretched arm. That's when the nose of the ball went up and seemed to flutter. I know someone will say I am wrong, but I know what I saw. If someone can post a video proving it wrong, I will admit I was drinking too much. Who knows, Cassell may have thrown behind Bowe, giving the CB an easy pick 6.

KC Tattoo
11-13-2012, 05:54 PM
I am not a fan of Fatal Fetal Cassell, but I watched that last pass several times in slo-mo and freeze frame by frame. It started as a tight spiral until it passed the DL's out stretched arm. That's when the nose of the ball went up and seemed to flutter. I know someone will say I am wrong, but I know what I saw. If someone can post a video proving it wrong, I will admit I was drinking too much. Who knows, Cassell may have thrown behind Bowe, giving the CB an easy pick 6.

I'd like to see it too, cuz I didn't see any tip at the time.

KC Tattoo
11-13-2012, 05:56 PM
did Poe do anything? I just saw the last half of the game- he only ended up with one tackle-lol Is he even getting a push up the middle??

What is up with this guy??

Yes, he actually did for DJ was getting through the Oline pretty good. At least DJ was in beast mode.

BigMeatballDave
11-13-2012, 05:56 PM
I am not a fan of Fatal Fetal Cassell, but I watched that last pass several times in slo-mo and freeze frame by frame. It started as a tight spiral until it passed the DL's out stretched arm. That's when the nose of the ball went up and seemed to flutter. I know someone will say I am wrong, but I know what I saw. If someone can post a video proving it wrong, I will admit I was drinking too much. Who knows, Cassell may have thrown behind Bowe, giving the CB an easy pick 6.

Or, maybe the pass would have been lower and an easier INT.

Also, QUIT MAKING EXCUSES FOR THE RETARD.

Frazod
11-13-2012, 05:58 PM
Yes, I thought that was a catch. Ground caused the fumble.

No it wasn't. Nothing to see here. Move along.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WgV2Bb573gk/TnKbI-gcQGI/AAAAAAAACqc/WfMSX_vGUfk/s1600/SuperBowl-Refs.jpg

BigMeatballDave
11-13-2012, 05:58 PM
He can't get seperation.


People have said this about Bowe. We know for a fact it's not true.

KC Tattoo
11-13-2012, 05:59 PM
He can't get seperation.


Slow with no quickness = BUST

I hate to give up on him so soon. I'd like to think he can have a break out game if we had a QB that could deliver the ball and put the offense in an up tempo production. So far it isn't looking good for him and that is a shame.

Pestilence
11-13-2012, 06:00 PM
I am not a fan of Fatal Fetal Cassell, but I watched that last pass several times in slo-mo and freeze frame by frame. It started as a tight spiral until it passed the DL's out stretched arm. That's when the nose of the ball went up and seemed to flutter. I know someone will say I am wrong, but I know what I saw. If someone can post a video proving it wrong, I will admit I was drinking too much. Who knows, Cassell may have thrown behind Bowe, giving the CB an easy pick 6.

The dude stared down Bowe and then threw it into triple coverage. SOMEONE was picking it off.

PACHIEFSFAN
11-13-2012, 06:00 PM
I'd like to see it too, cuz I didn't see any tip at the time.

I didn't see a tip live either, but I wanted to see why he threw it so short so I backed it up and replayed it several times. There was no angle showing if there is any seperation between the arm and the ball, but for the nose of the ball to suddenly tilt up makes me suspect the side of the ball did graze the DL's arm. That would have taken some steam off the ball.

PACHIEFSFAN
11-13-2012, 06:02 PM
The dude stared down Bowe and then threw it into triple coverage. SOMEONE was picking it off.

Not saying it wouldn't have been picked off.......

gblowfish
11-13-2012, 07:51 PM
He never looked at anybody but Bowe. Drew three guys right to the ball. Horrible. Casshole can't look off to save his ass.

notorious
11-13-2012, 08:11 PM
People have said this about Bowe. We know for a fact it's not true.

I hope I am wrong, but from the day he got drafted he has looked very slow.

KC Tattoo
11-13-2012, 08:22 PM
I hope I am wrong, but from the day he got drafted he has looked very slow.

He may not be the fasted cat on the field, he does good to block down field in the running game. He makes remarkable catches and is hard to bring down and falls for extra yards with DBs draped on him. I don't get the hate for him at all?

Sorter
11-13-2012, 08:44 PM
I hope I am wrong, but from the day he got drafted he has looked very slow.

The problem with Baldwin, IMO, is that he isn't explosive. Top end speed is pretty good but isn't quick, explosive or very agile.

If you compare him to Julio for example, it looks like Baldwin is running underwater.

Not that this is entirely horrible. I think Baldwin could be a fantastic #2 guy who is strong enough to make catches on Digs and fast enough top-end wise to stretch the field on the outside.

HOwever, he hasn't shown anything that supports that :(

displacedinMN
11-13-2012, 08:46 PM
I have been reading your 10 for a few weeks.

great insight. no bull.
Better than many reporters.

Phobia
11-13-2012, 09:04 PM
I am not a fan of Fatal Fetal Cassell, but I watched that last pass several times in slo-mo and freeze frame by frame. It started as a tight spiral until it passed the DL's out stretched arm. That's when the nose of the ball went up and seemed to flutter. I know someone will say I am wrong, but I know what I saw. If someone can post a video proving it wrong, I will admit I was drinking too much. Who knows, Cassell may have thrown behind Bowe, giving the CB an easy pick 6.

Even worse. There's really very little excuse for having balls tipped at the LOS when you're in clutch time.