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Gadzooks
11-14-2012, 03:57 PM
Having no other option for the next 3 years, would you swap GM, HC and QB with the cHargers or stay the course?
BTW - This is a spin off of DarthPioliSatan's "Haters" thread.

HemiEd
11-14-2012, 04:01 PM
It would be a slight improvement in all three areas, but not where I want them to end up.

keg in kc
11-14-2012, 04:04 PM
Sure, let's replace awful with merely bad.

Pestilence
11-14-2012, 04:05 PM
Rivers with this offense would be light years ahead of Cassel.

Mr. Flopnuts
11-14-2012, 04:06 PM
Can we fire AJ and Norf at the end of the year?

Gadzooks
11-14-2012, 04:07 PM
Sure, let's replace awful with merely bad.

I've edited the OP to make it an even more hellish scenario. You would have to stick with the group for the next 3 years.:evil:

Pestilence
11-14-2012, 04:08 PM
I've edited the OP to make it an even more hellish scenario. You would have to stick with the group for the next 3 years.:evil:

You can't do that shit after people have already voted. Fucking Chargers fans.

Gadzooks
11-14-2012, 04:09 PM
Can we fire AJ and Norf at the end of the year?

No. You're stuck with them for 3 years.

BigMeatballDave
11-14-2012, 04:11 PM
Masturbate with a cheese grater.

Gadzooks
11-14-2012, 04:12 PM
You can't do that shit after people have already voted. ****ing Chargers fans.

Chiefs fans do that shit all the time. Chargers fans tend to be quicker and the Chiefs fans can't hit the refresh button fast enough.:)

Fruit Ninja
11-14-2012, 04:12 PM
why do people post such idiotic questions. Yeah, replace shit, with shit. Sounds like a plan.

Gadzooks
11-14-2012, 04:12 PM
Masturbate with a cheese grater.

Fuck you Dave.

HemiEd
11-14-2012, 04:13 PM
Is there any wonder why the AFC West sucks so bad, when you look at their leadership and Elway comes out on top?

Gadzooks
11-14-2012, 04:14 PM
why do people post such idiotic questions. Yeah, replace shit, with shit. Sounds like a plan.

Since it's obvious Pioli, Crennell and Cassel suck dinkies, the question is whether you would stay the course with what you have in place or trade it. Which option would be better?

Pestilence
11-14-2012, 04:16 PM
If we stay the course......are they fired after this year?

Gadzooks
11-14-2012, 04:18 PM
If we stay the course......are they fired after this year?

Sorry. 3 years.

BoneKrusher
11-14-2012, 04:21 PM
Rivers with this offense would be light years ahead of Cassel.

Yep

SNR
11-14-2012, 05:39 PM
You shouldn't have provided a third option. That's a cop-out.

If we're forced to keep them for three years, I'm taking the better of the two horrific options. That would be AJ, Rivers, and neck cancer

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-14-2012, 05:39 PM
No. I want a trio that can actually win a Super Bowl, not shit their pants every year.

rico
11-14-2012, 05:44 PM
I figured the Gaz would be strong in this one.

Gadzooks
11-14-2012, 05:50 PM
You shouldn't have provided a third option. That's a cop-out.

I agree. Ever since SkipTowne left everyone has had to pussy foot their way around this forum. Frankly, I'm sick of this babying bullshit.
People around here need to grow a pair and have a fuckin' opinion.
GAZ is not an option; it's the pussy's way out of a tough question.
Use your intellect people...

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-14-2012, 05:51 PM
Xanders, Herm Del Rio, and Assweiler/Slowmo

SNR
11-14-2012, 05:59 PM
Xanders, Herm Del Rio, and Assweiler/Slowmo

Wow. I would actually go with AJ, Rivers, and neck cancer in this instance as well. :eek:

This division has seen its fair share of shitty GMs and coaches. My God.

ClevelandBronco
11-14-2012, 06:13 PM
The only sane answer is, "Well, sure. I guess I'd take the screw-ups from San Diego. But..."

Gadzooks
11-14-2012, 06:19 PM
Wow. I would actually go with AJ, Rivers, and neck cancer in this instance as well. :eek:

This division has seen its fair share of shitty GMs and coaches. My God.

I don't know why you have the need to refer to Norf as "neck cancer".
He had a couple of pimples on his neck as a teenager and he popped them. What's the big deal?!?
http://www.blogcdn.com/nfl.fanhouse.com/media/2008/11/turner.jpg

Sorter
11-14-2012, 06:21 PM
I don't know why you have the need to refer to Norf as "neck cancer".
He had a couple of pimples on his neck as a teenager and he popped them. What's the big deal?!?
http://www.blogcdn.com/nfl.fanhouse.com/media/2008/11/turner.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm200/robitusson1/1252938065_squirting-vomit.gif

Count Zarth
11-14-2012, 06:26 PM
Norv needs to come here as our next OC.

Frazod
11-14-2012, 06:28 PM
Htismaqe used to have a catchphrase above his avatar that sums up my feelings perfectly - "better does not equal good."

I guess I'd take Phyllis, even though I think he's a loser or at least cursed. The other two? Forget it.

Count Zarth
11-14-2012, 06:39 PM
Rivers is basically playing with no receivers in SD.

He'd be awesome here. Bowe would have 1500 yards.

Sorter
11-14-2012, 06:44 PM
Rivers is basically playing with no receivers in SD.

He'd be awesome here. Bowe would have 1500 yards.

What Gates and Malcolm Floyd are just fucking fried chicken?

ROFL

Count Zarth
11-14-2012, 06:48 PM
What Gates and Malcolm Floyd are just fucking fried chicken?

ROFL

Gates is a brokedick and Floyd is a borderline #2 receiver.

Their depth is terrible.

If this guy was playing with a good WR corps he'd be a 5,000-yard passer and 13-game winner every season.

As it is he is still going to throw for 40,000 yards and 250 TDs in his NFL career. He's only 31 and has 178 career TDs and 26,000 yards.

He is better than any QB we have had in a long time, including Green.

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2012, 06:52 PM
Gates is a brokedick and Floyd is a borderline #2 receiver.

Their depth is terrible.

If this guy was playing with a good WR corps he'd be a 5,000-yard passer and 13-game winner every season.

As it is he is still going to throw for 40,000 yards and 250 TDs in his NFL career. He's only 31 and has 178 career TDs and 26,000 yards.

He is better than any QB we have had in a long time, including Green.

I have always thought Rivers would eventually get it done but every year it seems more likely he never will. He has done a job making average WR better but he also has melted down and the wrong time enough to make it more than a trend. Last week both his INT's were not only terrible but costly. The first, which was one of the worst INT's all year, would have been a game timing field goal if he throws it away.

Floyd is not a borderline #2. He is a solid #2. Rivers and Romo just don't seem to have it in the big moments. Sometimes its not all their fault. It may just be a combo of cursed and anti-clutch.

Edit: In response to your edit, yes he is better than what we have had but I am not sure he is ever going to lead a team to a SB. I wouldn't be upset having him, but the goal here is winning a SB. Not sure if he has what it takes. Every year he makes it harder to believe. Its not just whats around him, its what he does in certain moments.

Sorter
11-14-2012, 06:54 PM
Gates is a brokedick and Floyd is a borderline #2 receiver.

Their depth is terrible.

If this guy was playing with a good WR corps he'd be a 5,000-yard passer and 13-game winner every season.

As it is he is still going to throw for 40,000 yards and 250 TDs in his NFL career. He's only 31 and has 178 career TDs and 26,000 yards.

He is better than any QB we have had in a long time, including Green.

Agree, but Floyd is certainly a legit #2. Alexander looks to have some potential if his knees don't give out (doubtful).

KILLER_CLOWN
11-14-2012, 09:50 PM
Take them all because together is powerful!

Count Zarth
11-14-2012, 09:52 PM
The only reason you think Floyd is any good is because he plays with Rivers.

He'd look like shit in KC.

This is a WR who has never had more than 43 catches. With Philip Rivers.

Count Zarth
11-14-2012, 09:54 PM
Edit: In response to your edit, yes he is better than what we have had but I am not sure he is ever going to lead a team to a SB. s.

Dude, Rivers is a better QB than Eli Manning.

The only difference is the level of talent around them.

Rivers has played behind a horrible line with practically no legit WRs the last two seasons.

If Rivers had Eli's WRs he'd be fucking killing it.

Even so he still puts up 4500+ yards. He's criminally underrated by people just because of his douchey attitude.

SNR
11-14-2012, 09:54 PM
What Gates and Malcolm Floyd are just fucking fried chicken?

ROFL
Racist.

Sorter
11-14-2012, 09:55 PM
The only reason you think Floyd is any good is because he plays with Rivers.

He'd look like shit in KC.

This is a WR who has never had more than 43 catches. With Philip Rivers.

43 catches seems normal to me in a Coryell system that has a HOF TE, a legit #1 in Jackson, and Sproles/Matthews.

What is he on pace for this year?

Sorter
11-14-2012, 09:57 PM
Dude, Rivers is a better QB than Eli Manning.

The only difference is the level of talent around them.

Rivers has played behind a horrible line with practically no legit WRs the last two seasons.

If Rivers had Eli's WRs he'd be ****ing killing it.

Even so he still puts up 4500+ yards. He's criminally underrated by people just because of his douchey attitude.

Wut?

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/marmpick.gif

Count Zarth
11-14-2012, 10:01 PM
Sure, cherry pick one bad play.

When Rivers had a top flight WR the Chargers were fucking deadly on offense.

There is a reason he was in the AFC Championship game a couple years ago.

Fuck.

Count Zarth
11-14-2012, 10:01 PM
You are talking shit on a guy who will retire with 40,000 yards and 250 TDs. Period. You are obtuse.

Sorter
11-14-2012, 10:03 PM
Sure, cherry pick one bad play.

When Rivers had a top flight WR the Chargers were ****ing deadly on offense.

There is a reason he was in the AFC Championship game a couple years ago.

****.

I mean, if you think that Rivers is better than Eli, that is fine.

There was a reason that Eli has 2 SB rings and 2 MVP trophies.

LMAO

Sorter
11-14-2012, 10:06 PM
You are talking shit on a guy who will retire with 40,000 yards and 250 TDs. Period. You are obtuse.

You're the one that thinks he is better than a 2X SB/MVP winning QB who beat a 17-0 team in one of his SBs. JFC, you think I'm obtuse? Come on GoChiefs. I think Rivers is without a doubt one of the better QBs in the league. However, he's played poorly the past 2 years. If you really think he's better than Eli, IDK what to tell you.

Count Zarth
11-14-2012, 10:07 PM
I mean, if you think that Rivers is better than Eli, that is fine.

There was a reason that Eli has 2 SB rings and 2 MVP trophies.

LMAO

Eli's team has given him a lot more help than Rivers has ever had for the most part.

They are both very very good QBs but I give a slight nod to Rivers.

Eli would not have had any success in SD.

Sorter
11-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Eli's team has given him a lot more help than Rivers has ever had for the most part.

They are both very very good QBs but I give a slight nod to Rivers.

Eli would not have had any success in SD.

Eli took an UDFA in Cruz and turned him into stud. Made Domenik Hixon look respectable at times. He never had a HOF RB, HOF TE and an elite WR on his roster all at the same time.

You put Eli on a team with LT, Gates, and VJ I think he trashes Philip. I guess we just have to agree to disagree I suppose.

New World Order
11-14-2012, 11:25 PM
I would take Rivers in a heartbeat

Count Zarth
11-14-2012, 11:28 PM
Eli took an UDFA in Cruz and turned him into stud. Made Domenik Hixon look respectable at times. He never had a HOF RB, HOF TE and an elite WR on his roster all at the same time.

You put Eli on a team with LT, Gates, and VJ I think he trashes Philip. I guess we just have to agree to disagree I suppose.

Cruz is actually good, though.

Guys like Eddie Royal are not.

Sorter
11-14-2012, 11:30 PM
Cruz is actually good, though.

Guys like Eddie Royal are not.

Well yeah. To discount Eli's influence on his success is silly. Great QBs take mediocre WRs and help turn them into elite guys.

Sorter
11-14-2012, 11:31 PM
Cruz is actually good, though.

Guys like Eddie Royal are not.

I kid you not, someone told me he was going to be a 1,000 yd WR this year. ROFL

scott free
11-14-2012, 11:39 PM
Dude, Rivers is a better QB than Eli Manning.

The only difference is the level of talent around them.

LMAO you've gotta be sniping for fun, or drunk.

Count Zarth
11-14-2012, 11:45 PM
Look, there is a clear difference in Rivers since the talent dropoff in SD.

It's not rocket science.

The guy is a top 10 QB, period.

You can't name 10 better QBs.

Sorter
11-14-2012, 11:52 PM
Look, there is a clear difference in Rivers since the talent dropoff in SD.

It's not rocket science.

The guy is a top 10 QB, period.

You can't name 10 better QBs.

That isn't the argument.

Count Zarth
11-14-2012, 11:55 PM
The argument seems to be "Rivers can't lead a team to a SB."

Yes he can.

Dude can shoot the ears off a gundark at 30 yards.

Von Dumbass
11-14-2012, 11:59 PM
I think Rivers could make Baldwin look good. When he was playing well all he would do is throw screens to LT/Sproles and jump balls to Gates and Jackson. He literally would just chuck it up and let VJ go up and get it.

Once the talent around Rivers left he started showing what he really is... a barely above average QB.

Sorter
11-14-2012, 11:59 PM
The argument seems to be "Rivers can't lead a team to a SB."

Yes he can.

Dude can shoot the ears off a gundark at 30 yards.

What?

Your argument was "Rivers > Manning".

scott free
11-15-2012, 12:00 AM
Even if the skill positions were used right, rivers is just another slow death.

Manning is the reigning champ who's had a few bad games, but rivers, the big overgrown kid who always finds a way to lose... is someone you want to move ahead with?

Rivers would be the most King Carliest band-aid type signing EVER.

Count Zarth
11-15-2012, 12:16 AM
Even if the skill positions were used right, rivers is just another slow death.


No he's not.

He's a legit franchise QB.

Mediocre "slow death" QBs don't have career QB ratings of 95.0.

Do you think this list is an accident?

http://i.imgur.com/NZfqh.jpg

keg in kc
11-15-2012, 12:17 AM
I didn't realize Rodgers was only 28. Christ, he could keep going another 6 or 7 years at the level he's playing now.

Count Zarth
11-15-2012, 01:01 AM
Remember that chart I threw up showing Cassel's closest comparisons in NFL history?

Here are Rivers.'

http://i49.tinypic.com/2v34ls7.jpg


He's not just in good company...he's in rare, ELITE company.

And if the Chargers reassemble a decent team around him now (instead of shit dicks like Jared Gaither and Eddie Royal), he WILL win a SB.

Chris Meck
11-15-2012, 01:09 AM
I'd take Norv as an OC in a heartbeat. But ONLY as an OC.