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Phobia
11-15-2012, 12:34 PM
http://mellinger.kansascity.com/entries/planes-twitter-blackouts-and-airplane-banners-wondering-about-reach-save-our-chiefs/

If you are a Chiefs fan, you undoubtedly know about the grassroots fan movement that calls itself Save Our Chiefs. I’ve written about them a few times, players have been asked about them, and it’s been all over the internets.

But what we know about their reach is still fairly vague.

As I type this, their Twitter account has 68,811 followers but nobody can really be sure what that means. The number used to be well over 100,000 but the people who run it self-reported a bunch of spambots. There’s also the thought that whatever the number of real-life human beings are following on Twitter, the number who passionately support the message is smaller. In other words, there are Chiefs fans who don’t wish Scott Pioli to be fired who follow Save Our Chiefs on Twitter just to keep up with things.

The other way that Save Our Chiefs has created waves is in paying for banners to be flown over Arrowhead Stadium before games. They have another one scheduled for rush hour traffic tomorrow morning. But all it takes is one person with about $600 to get a banner flown, so again, it’s hard to know how many people are behind the message.

The point of all this is that we’re about to have our best indication yet of how many people are on Save Our Chiefs’ side.

That’s because the message is going from Twitter and message boards to something more tangible for Sunday’s game, for which the group is pushing a “blackout” — you know, everybody wear black like it’s a funeral.

So far, people inside the team’s offices can diminish Save Our Chiefs’ reach as a small but vocal minority, and there’s really nothing tangible that people could point to in response.

It’s true that if you have ANY fans angry enough to fly critical banners over games or start a movement like this that attracts more than a tiny handful of supporters you’ve got a problem, but it’s also true that none of us — not me, not you, not the people who run Save Our Chiefs — can have a real strong feeling of how many people are with this.

That changes, in large part, on Sunday. Because thousands of the Chiefs’ most passionate fans will be there in person, and many more than that will be watching on TV and there will be nowhere to hide.

If Clark Hunt looks out at his stadium and sees the same mix of red jerseys as usual, he can more confidently feel like the angry letters he receives come from a vocal minority.

If he sees a big number of people actually wearing black and treating the stadium as a church funeral, then that will be the most powerful message yet about fan disapproval.

We’ll find out in three days.

Read more here: http://mellinger.kansascity.com/entries/planes-twitter-blackouts-and-airplane-banners-wondering-about-reach-save-our-chiefs/#storylink=cp

I think he's right. There's no way the black shirt wearers make a dent in the red. I'm very concerned. pr_capone can't even find people to pass out fliers. Who is going to go out of their way to wear black? A couple thousand people isn't going to cut it. All the banners, interviews, and social media followers in the word won't send a message Sunday. This is where SOC comes up short.

Halfcan
11-15-2012, 12:40 PM
Well SOC is allready a winner. It called out Pioli and cashole and brought a Lot of attention on Clark. What a joke a team has to be when your beloved fans are flying banners. Besides the Marlins owner in MLB- Clark might be the worst-now everyone in the country knows it.

durtyrute
11-15-2012, 12:42 PM
The only things that matter are empty seats. Black shirts and banners, even though they are cool, don't mean shit.

Mr. Laz
11-15-2012, 12:43 PM
people are still AT the stadium ... the money is still flowing.



If you want a blackout that will really work then you need a empty stadium so T.V. is a blackout to really make the point.

dirk digler
11-15-2012, 12:45 PM
people are still AT the stadium ... the money is still flowing.



If you want a blackout that will really work then you need a empty stadium so T.V. is a blackout to really make the point.

Which brings up a question did the Chiefs sell enough tickets to avoid a TV blackout this week?

And the next question would be who are the stupid people paying to go to this game?

Phobia
11-15-2012, 12:47 PM
Which brings up a question did the Chiefs sell enough tickets to avoid a TV blackout this week?

And the next question would be who are the stupid people paying to go to this game?

I'm reimbursing a friend $6 to pay for a ticket. I'll park for free though.

Pestilence
11-15-2012, 12:48 PM
It doesn't matter the number of people who wear black to the game......unless all 70k do.....people are going to view it as a failure.

dirk digler
11-15-2012, 12:52 PM
I'm reimbursing a friend $6 to pay for a ticket. I'll park for free though.

6$ is the going rate now?

My cousin has season tickets and he is going deer hunting this weekend and asked me if I wanted to go and I said no way I don't want to waste my time and gas to watch these clowns.

BigCatDaddy
11-15-2012, 12:54 PM
I agree after this week basically a boycotting of home games needs to be the next step and given the record and weather this time of year should be effective.

Chocolate Hog
11-15-2012, 12:54 PM
Ever since Pioli didn't get fired after Monday's game i've felt defeated. There's too many dumbass fans who still support Pioli and Clark is the same guy who fought to keep Herm around when he hired Pioli.

siberian khatru
11-15-2012, 12:54 PM
Look, if 1-15 doesn't convince Clark that he's got shit management, then the number of black jerseys and social media participants sure as hell won't.

Scorp
11-15-2012, 12:55 PM
And the next question would be who are the stupid people paying to go to this game?

The people going to the games are people that can't afford regular priced tickets. They are getting them at a huge discount and want to experience Arrowhead. Can't really blame them I guess.

Easy 6
11-15-2012, 12:56 PM
I think there was always going to be a ceiling to the movements effectiveness... but that doesnt take away from its usefulness.

We're like the news media, all we can do is continue to shed light on the situation... ultimately, the government still controls the levers of power and makes the final decisions.

CoMoChief
11-15-2012, 12:57 PM
The blackout thing is kinda a waste of time.

It's hard to reach 70,000 strangers and to have them all wear black.

That's just my opinion.....love the idea and what it stands for, I just think it's a little bit over the heads of prcapone and co. to really have that blackout work and make a difference. Hopefully I'm wrong...but it wouldn't surprise me to turn on the TV Sunday and to see maybe a couple specks of black here and there.

siberian khatru
11-15-2012, 12:57 PM
I think there was always going to be a ceiling to the movements effectiveness... but that doesnt take away from its usefulness.

We're like the news media, all we can do is continue to shed light on the situation... ultimately, the government still controls the levers of power and makes the final decisions.

Agreed.

Phobia
11-15-2012, 12:59 PM
The blackout thing is kinda a waste of time.

It's hard to reach 70,000 strangers and to have them all wear black.

That's just my opinion.....love the idea and what it stands for, I just think it's a little bit over the heads of prcapone and co. to really have that blackout work and make a difference. Hopefully I'm wrong...but it wouldn't surprise me to turn on the TV Sunday and to see maybe a couple specks of black here and there.

I think you're right. It's unfortunate that the usefulness of SOC will be judged by how many black shirts are in the crowd.

BourbonMan
11-15-2012, 01:03 PM
The problem with not going is this..A lot of people have already purchased their ticket way in advance ( Like STH'S)...If they say lets not go, then they are out of the full price of the ticket...If they say, okay i'll sell them, they still don't get full price of the ticket and will probably sell it for 1/3 of the price. Then their are the people saying, well if I can purchase these ticket for $20, I can take my whole family to a Chiefs game.

This will be the LAST game I am going to, I am a STH with 2 seats and have been for 7 years. I've sold my tickets for the last 3 home games already. Face value on these are $85..sold the colts for $30...sold the panthers for $50..and sold the denvers for $85.
So as I stated before..I will not be going, but my seats will not be empty..There in lies the problem.

scho63
11-15-2012, 01:05 PM
I strongly suggest that everyone bring a box of Costco dark lawn bags and cover all the seats they can after the crowd settles in with them. They will help cover up the sea of red.

Brock
11-15-2012, 01:05 PM
The blackout thing is kinda a waste of time.

It's hard to reach 70,000 strangers and to have them all wear black.

That's just my opinion.....love the idea and what it stands for, I just think it's a little bit over the heads of prcapone and co. to really have that blackout work and make a difference. Hopefully I'm wrong...but it wouldn't surprise me to turn on the TV Sunday and to see maybe a couple specks of black here and there.

How many people are actually going to bother going to the game?

vailpass
11-15-2012, 01:06 PM
I strongly suggest that everyone bring a box of Costco dark lawn bags and cover all the seats they can after the crowd settles in with them. They will help cover up the sea of red.

Great idea although I suspect stadium security would want to have a word with you.

siberian khatru
11-15-2012, 01:07 PM
I think you're right. It's unfortunate that the usefulness of SOC will be judged by how many black shirts are in the crowd.

It's going to be seen as a step back, but SOC already has succeeded spectacularly by getting media attention with the banner.

Scott Free is right, though, that there's a ceiling to this. If people -- general fans, and most especially, ownership -- don't respond overwhelmingly negatively to a 1- or 2-win season, then no amount of outside pressure, no matter how creatively applied, will push them over the tipping point.

KCDC
11-15-2012, 01:07 PM
What Mellinger does not take into account is that there are thousands of us life long Chiefs fans living outside of the area that have no way to show our protest. We don't go to games and can't wear black. We stop watching the games perhaps, or cancel NFL Ticket, but there are few ways to measure the loss of interest nationally (which hurts Hunt only indirectly).

Stewie
11-15-2012, 01:09 PM
I think people that dress up in black are going to be overwhelmed by the number of people that show up as empty seats. The red and gold plastic will be the most noticeable feature at Arrowhead.

Woodchuck
11-15-2012, 01:10 PM
I think it will definately make a difference and it will get a ton of media coverage. It will paint a very clear picture on a national scale that people will remember.

Will it help Pioli get fired?

I don't know. I hope so. What I do know is that it sends a strong message that the fans aren't going to take the bullshit anymore. This will send a real warning.

This is kind of off topic but, a few years ago at UGA, the fans were told to wear black to the Auburn game. The captains came out for the coin toss wearing the traditional red uniforms. Moments later, the team ran out in black uniforms for the first time and the stadium went nuts. The place was electric and we crushed Auburn. It's not the same but it was cool and had a positive effect. There was some red sprinkled in there but it was mostly balck. Here's what it looked like...

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notorious
11-15-2012, 01:10 PM
Do your best, and let it grow.


I don't know why we only picked one home game to do it. It should be every home game until Pioli is gone.

By doing that it can grow. People will see the black, and if they agree they will wear black at the next game.

Brock
11-15-2012, 01:12 PM
This is kind of off topic but, a few years ago at UGA, the fans were told to wear black to the Auburn game. The captains came out for the coin toss wearing the traditional red uniforms. Moments later, the team ran out in black uniforms for the first time and the stadium went nuts. The place was electric and we crushed Auburn. It's not the same but it was cool and had a positive effect. Here's what it looked like...

no1curr

Mr_Tomahawk
11-15-2012, 01:14 PM
Been saying this all the long.


Still think we should have pushed for fans wearing paper bags during the 1st qtr or something.

KCUnited
11-15-2012, 01:14 PM
I doubt trash bags are going to fly (or maybe they will and that's why they won't) in the stadium. I'd get the Dollar Store ones if you try it, I covet my Costco bags too much to risk losing them at a ****ing Chiefs game.

TRR
11-15-2012, 01:14 PM
Very concerned?? What a joke. Clark Hunt will do whatever the fuck he wants to do. He could give a shit less if a bunch of idiots wear red, black, white or brown shirts to the game. Stop buying Chiefs shit and tix if you want to make a statement. All I see and all Hunt will see are dollar signs wearing black shirts instead of red.
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wazu
11-15-2012, 01:18 PM
Everybody needs to post support for this event in their Facebook status today. It's the most powerful platform that most users of this site have.

Chocolate Hog
11-15-2012, 01:25 PM
A fire Pioli chat would be way more damming to the franchise.

Chocolate Hog
11-15-2012, 01:26 PM
I think it will definately make a difference and it will get a ton of media coverage. It will paint a very clear picture on a national scale that people will remember.

Will it help Pioli get fired?

I don't know. I hope so. What I do know is that it sends a strong message that the fans aren't going to take the bullshit anymore. This will send a real warning.

This is kind of off topic but, a few years ago at UGA, the fans were told to wear black to the Auburn game. The captains came out for the coin toss wearing the traditional red uniforms. Moments later, the team ran out in black uniforms for the first time and the stadium went nuts. The place was electric and we crushed Auburn. It's not the same but it was cool and had a positive effect. There was some red sprinkled in there but it was mostly balck. Here's what it looked like...



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okoye35chiefs
11-15-2012, 01:32 PM
that would kinda be funny if they came out in a black alternate uniform...

okoye35chiefs
11-15-2012, 01:33 PM
http://www.betteronlineshop.com/images/products/5877/Kansas_City_Chiefs_29_Eric_Berry_Black_Jersey.jpg

luv
11-15-2012, 01:44 PM
The blackout thing is kinda a waste of time.

It's hard to reach 70,000 strangers and to have them all wear black.

That's just my opinion.....love the idea and what it stands for, I just think it's a little bit over the heads of prcapone and co. to really have that blackout work and make a difference. Hopefully I'm wrong...but it wouldn't surprise me to turn on the TV Sunday and to see maybe a couple specks of black here and there.

You think there will be 70,000 at the game?

I think they need to see the number of black shirts, orange shirts, and empty seats combined.

KC Tattoo
11-15-2012, 01:48 PM
I don't know how many people are going to wear black for the game, but I think a good number of people will wear black. At any rate I'm proud of the fans that do and the fans that are voicing displeasure for the atrocity we have witness on the game field.


I would have been happy to pass out fliers, but am too damn broke & live a few hundred miles away from KC. Also my blazer is broke down so I am a no go. I'd go to the game and wear black if I could.

Mr. Laz
11-15-2012, 01:53 PM
You think there will be 70,000 at the game?

I think they need to see the number of black shirts, orange shirts, and empty seats combined.
There is a reason seats are the team colors.

Jive Ass
11-15-2012, 01:53 PM
Something to think about is that this is a first occasion for the event. Even if SOC can't get the word to tens of thousands of fans this time around, the word will spread to those who want to be involved via this first attempt. Even if it never amounts to making a huge dent in the amount of red, the symbolic meaning is what matters, here.

All in all, it's just another effort to speak out. Whether it's popular not is to be seen, but its contribution to the whole matters for the movement.

luv
11-15-2012, 01:55 PM
There is a reason the seats are the team colors.

1. Not the lower bowl.
2. It's pretty easy to tell an empty red seat from an occupied one.

Mr. Laz
11-15-2012, 01:56 PM
1. Not the lower bowl.
2. It's pretty easy to tell an empty red seat from an occupied one.
not really from the cameras, unless they zoom

they just want to avoid everyone seeing empty seats on t.v.

Mr_Tomahawk
11-15-2012, 02:02 PM
A fire Pioli chat would be way more damming to the franchise.

Yup.

wazu
11-15-2012, 02:13 PM
I think there will be a noticeable amount of black. Everybody knows about it. This town likes to get rowdy at sports events through grassroots efforts. If you've been to a game this year and heard the thundering boos, you have to think we've got a chance to get noticed.

memyselfI
11-15-2012, 02:16 PM
FWIW, I work at a place where Chiefs merchandise is sold. Nothing Chiefs is selling these days but this week if it's selling it's black.

DTLB58
11-15-2012, 02:17 PM
Very concerned?? What a joke. Clark Hunt will do whatever the **** he wants to do. He could give a shit less if a bunch of idiots wear red, black, white or brown shirts to the game. Stop buying Chiefs shit and tix if you want to make a statement. All I see and all Hunt will see are dollar signs wearing black shirts instead of red.
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Yep. Whether you've already purchased your season ticket or not, the most powerful message is an empty seat.

Brooklyn
11-15-2012, 02:24 PM
here is some food for thought. I live in New York City, obviously Brooklyn to be specific. I'm the guy who started "Sell the Knicks" in 2006 when Isiah Thomas was going apeshit and they fired Larry Brown. Before the advent of Twitter, and facebook I did what I could to get the word around about the movement. We definitely had a lot of followers and press. I had articles in the NY Daily News, NY Post, Newsday, and actually even the NY Times. Sell the Knicks was featured on SportsCenter as well as an episode of PTI with Wilbon and Kornheiser.

The height of the movement came when the Knicks' owner, James Dolan, shut down our t-shirt manufacturing citing intellectual property and threatened to sue. This is where a lot of the major media jumped all over him and got us a lot of publicity. Now remember, this is in NYC and pretty much every single Knicks fan was against Dolan/Isiah at the time. There was no divide, save for the people who thought it was pointless or a mechanism to sell t-shirts. Opinion-wise, everyone was pretty much on board with ousting those two clowns, even if they hated Larry Brown at the time. This is a big population.

The big event was supposed to be the NBA Draft. I organized a pre-game party at a local bar where there were drink specials and tons of free food. TV networks, reporters, and all that crap showed up, similar to the experience SoC has had to date. The plan was we would march from the bar about 10-15 blocks to MSG where the draft was being held. Despite us having followers in the high hundreds supposedly attending, maybe 25 people showed up. By the time we got to MSG we had collected another 20 or so in the rally. Granted, this all happened on a weeknight and started at like 4PM, but the turnout was poor compared to our expectations based on online comments.

I still feel like we made a decent attempt to get our voices heard, and I believe they took notice since they sent a cease and disist. It probably came standard from the legal department though, and didn't make a dent. The air definitely came out of the balloon and things sort of went away shortly after. Dolan was/is still terrorizing the Knicks until he finally hired Donnie Walsh in 2008.

I have no clue if you guys will have better luck given that its a weekend, people were already planning to go to the game, there are better means to get the word out, etc. I hope it goes well and I can see all black on TV when I watch. I will say though that its been my experience that people talk a good game on the Internet but are generally afraid to show up in person.

NJChiefsFan
11-15-2012, 02:36 PM
There is a reason seats are the team colors.

To me that's why its silly for the yellow seats. Makes it very clear when people aren't sitting there.

As far as the blackout is concerned, I don't see it doing a ton. That being said I think SOC is still going to have momentum. It's never been about being the sledgehammer that knocks the door down. We just want to make it known that fans want said door knocked down. Making Clark realize the scale of fan anger was/is the true mission. Keeping it going is more about making him realize this wasn't a one time thing for fun.

wazu
11-15-2012, 03:17 PM
Yep. Whether you've already purchased your season ticket or not, the most powerful message is an empty seat.

The only problem with that is it implies fans support is weak. Crappy fan bases have their teams' games blacked out. We aren't one of those fan bases, so we are trying to find another way.

God of Thunder
11-15-2012, 03:43 PM
I feel like all in all, it's been a huge waste of time/money. No matter what SOC does, it will no influence whether or not Clark fires Pioli.....

I guarantee you when Clark see's the stadium empty in the 3rd quarter, he knows fans aren't happy with how things are done.

Bugeater
11-15-2012, 03:55 PM
I'm not sure there's any correlation between not finding people willing to pass out the flyers and the number of people willing to wear black. I think the reason he's having trouble finding volunteers is because no one who is going to the game is going to want to give up precious tailgating time to pass out flyers.

chiefzilla1501
11-15-2012, 03:57 PM
I feel like all in all, it's been a huge waste of time/money. No matter what SOC does, it will no influence whether or not Clark fires Pioli.....

I guarantee you when Clark see's the stadium empty in the 3rd quarter, he knows fans aren't happy with how things are done.

This has been happening for years. I don't know why people keep insisting that not showing up to games sends any kind of message. This sends a message to the front office that we're bandwagon fans and that we'll run back as soon as we start winning again.

That happened under Peterson. It won't happen for Pioli. People learned to tolerate miserable under Peterson, but with Pioli, it's personal because he's so damn arrogant about how right he is.

NJChiefsFan
11-15-2012, 03:59 PM
I feel like all in all, it's been a huge waste of time/money. No matter what SOC does, it will no influence whether or not Clark fires Pioli.....

I guarantee you when Clark see's the stadium empty in the 3rd quarter, he knows fans aren't happy with how things are done.

Its an average of like $15 per person. Not sure how big a waste that is. Not to mention that it has taken our energy of anger into another outlet. If nothing else it has been a good therapy for some of us. That being said, I do think its had an impact.

At the very least it has helped push the KC media and they do also help wake the rest of the fan base up. Eventually that leads to an angrier fan base, and something Clark will care about since the past 5 years has shown that poor performance means an empty stadium.

Brock
11-15-2012, 04:05 PM
The only problem with that is it implies fans support is weak. Crappy fan bases have their teams' games blacked out. We aren't one of those fan bases, so we are trying to find another way.

Fan support is weak.

Mr. Laz
11-15-2012, 04:13 PM
This has been happening for years. I don't know why people keep insisting that not showing up to games sends any kind of message. This sends a message to the front office that we're bandwagon fans and that we'll run back as soon as we start winning again.

That happened under Peterson. It won't happen for Pioli. People learned to tolerate miserable under Peterson, but with Pioli, it's personal because he's so damn arrogant about how right he is.
which tells them they better change things

The fans have never actually stopped giving the Hunts their money. They might leave early but that doesn't mean shit. It just means they get to close/clean early. The Hunt already have your ticket and parking money.

The fans just can't stop tailgating.

If they ever did REALLY stop going the Hunts would notice immediately.

chiefzilla1501
11-15-2012, 04:28 PM
which tells them they better change things

The fans have never actually stopped giving the Hunts their money. They might leave early but that doesn't mean shit. It just means they get to close/clean early. The Hunt already have your ticket and parking money.

The fans just can't stop tailgating.

If they ever did REALLY stop going the Hunts would notice immediately.

I don't agree with this. Again, if the Chiefs start winning again, true fans will come back to the stadium. It's a sad reality. That's why I like the blackout idea. Think it sends a very different message, that we're not just dissatisfied because we're losing. We're dissatisfied because we're educated fans who know that this losing isn't just going to turn around unless some major changes are made up top.

Mr. Flopnuts
11-15-2012, 04:49 PM
If it was a white out it would garner more support. Go Eachus! Boo Bowe!

Sorter
11-15-2012, 04:50 PM
LMAOIf it was a white out it would garner more support. Go Eachus! Boo Bowe!

bevischief
11-15-2012, 05:01 PM
I'm not sure there's any correlation between not finding people willing to pass out the flyers and the number of people willing to wear black. I think the reason he's having trouble finding volunteers is because no one who is going to the game is going to want to give up precious tailgating time to pass out flyers.

Go tailgate during the first half then leave. That's what I would if I lived closer.

Count Zarth
11-15-2012, 05:24 PM
I'll be happy if we get a group of people on TV.

Chocolate Hog
11-15-2012, 05:40 PM
I'll be happy if we get a group of people on TV.

Jaycee Pearson said networks try avoiding and having to talk about things like the blackout.

Deberg_1990
11-15-2012, 05:59 PM
So what is the ultimate goal of the movement and blackout? Is it to get Pioli fired? If that's the case, I'm not sure how much influence we as fans have over Clark? He's gonna do what he's gonna do...and that's what's best for him.

Not trying to shoot the movement down, I think its.a great thing...just being realistic.

Regardless, what Clark does at the end of the season will tell us all a lot about him and his commitment to winning. Personally if Pioli is still in charge after this year, ill stop being a fan for awhile. If Clark isn't committed to building a.winner, then why should we care anymore?
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Count Zarth
11-15-2012, 06:00 PM
One thing that might help us, is a lot of people wear dark cold weather gear to Arrowhead in November.

We might have inadvertent support.

BigRedChief
11-15-2012, 06:07 PM
I think you're right. It's unfortunate that the usefulness of SOC will be judged by how many black shirts are in the crowd.Well surely you knew this going in when it was decided to take the SOC in this direction.

Guru
11-15-2012, 06:22 PM
One thing that might help us, is a lot of people wear dark cold weather gear to Arrowhead in November.

We might have inadvertent support.

55 degrees is hardly cold.

wazu
11-15-2012, 06:26 PM
I honestly had strong reservations when I saw that this was the next big plan. But now that it is and seeing how much it's been promoted I'm excited for it. If it works it is HUGE! And it might. If it fails it's still no small thing. Not with how much media coverage it's gotten.

It's not easy leading a movement like this. Not everything you try works, and there is learning along the way, but I'm glad to see somebody pick up the banner and try.

And consider this - if it really flops and there is not much black, then that gives us an honest evaluation of how big a percentage of the fan base is really behind this. It may be sobering, but necessary. It doesn't mean we would give up, but it's a measuring stick that can be applied to all future hijinx that are tried.

tk13
11-15-2012, 06:30 PM
The only thing that can go wrong is exactly what he says in the article... Clark sees it and thinks it's only a small portion of crazies who are upset and decides to give Pioli 2 more years. Otherwise it's probably positive promotion.

But that's the risk you take when you go from almost a guerrilla warfare style of getting someone's attention to putting yourself out in the open and saying come at me. All the mystery is gone.

Brock
11-15-2012, 06:36 PM
The only thing that can go wrong is exactly what he says in the article... Clark sees it and thinks it's only a small portion of crazies who are upset and decides to give Pioli 2 more years. Otherwise it's probably positive promotion.

But that's the risk you take when you go from almost a guerrilla warfare style of getting someone's attention to putting yourself out in the open and saying come at me. All the mystery is gone.

The fact that Clark is even aware this idea exists is something.

HonestChieffan
11-15-2012, 06:38 PM
My paid for seat will be empty. I like Clark but it time to show he has a set and start the fire.

redgoldexpress
11-15-2012, 07:02 PM
I would love to hand out fliers but on Sunday I am working from 5 in the morning to 7 at night. I will be recording the game to hopefully watch the stadium about a quarter black. I think that the best way of keeping the momentum going is from here on out keep putting on the pressure of the blackout, and keeping it going for the rest of the home games. Which each lose the numbers of fans wearing black shirts should grow every game.

Chief Roundup
11-15-2012, 07:03 PM
It really depends on your definition of success. SOC is already a success IMO. Because of being mentioned in the local and national media. The Blackouts' success will depend on a few things. One is how many shirts were sold. Another is that it has already been mentioned and people are aware and want to see the outcome. Of course the outcome that most want to see is also the most debateable of success. If there is any patches or small areas like 15 to 20 people together it is a success.

wazu
11-15-2012, 07:03 PM
The only thing that can go wrong is exactly what he says in the article... Clark sees it and thinks it's only a small portion of crazies who are upset and decides to give Pioli 2 more years. Otherwise it's probably positive promotion.

But that's the risk you take when you go from almost a guerrilla warfare style of getting someone's attention to putting yourself out in the open and saying come at me. All the mystery is gone.

Fair point. But by drawing a line in the sand and trying to do something really big, it has gotten a lot more media exposure. It's a gamble, but do we really have anything left to lose?

Chief Roundup
11-15-2012, 07:12 PM
55 degrees is hardly cold.

If it is a little breezy 55 will be chilly in the 300 sections.

ILChief
11-15-2012, 07:14 PM
Well the bengals color is black, so any visiting fans should help the appearance

Chief Roundup
11-15-2012, 07:15 PM
The only thing that can go wrong is exactly what he says in the article... Clark sees it and thinks it's only a small portion of crazies who are upset and decides to give Pioli 2 more years. Otherwise it's probably positive promotion.

But that's the risk you take when you go from almost a guerrilla warfare style of getting someone's attention to putting yourself out in the open and saying come at me. All the mystery is gone.

Surely no one is unrealistic enough to think this movement would get any owner to fire thier GM. All that can truly be accomplished is being just enough to finish Pioli off.

Chief3188
11-15-2012, 07:22 PM
People should chip in money to buy a large quantity of black shirts if that hasn't been done already and offer them out to free to anyone who will put it on right then and there and go into the stadium with it.

Spott
11-15-2012, 07:36 PM
I think it would be a little humorous if the Chiefs decided to wear an alternate black jersey for the game so it wouldn't look like a protest with a bunch of fans wearing black in the stands.

Gary
11-15-2012, 07:44 PM
The key is for the people wearing the shirts with the blackout message to get as much camera time as possible...hopefully getting the media talking about the message.

Chief Roundup
11-15-2012, 07:44 PM
I think it would be a little humorous if the Chiefs decided to wear an alternate black jersey for the game so it wouldn't look like a protest with a bunch of fans wearing black in the stands.

Wouldn't matter the media is already aware of the Blackout. Since it was announced first.

NJChiefsFan
11-15-2012, 07:49 PM
Wouldn't matter the media is already aware of the Blackout. Since it was announced first.

They can't anyway. Teams have to tell the league before the season starts what jersey options they will have for the year.

DaFace
11-15-2012, 07:55 PM
It really depends on your definition of success. SOC is already a success IMO. Because of being mentioned in the local and national media. The Blackouts' success will depend on a few things. One is how many shirts were sold. Another is that it has already been mentioned and people are aware and want to see the outcome. Of course the outcome that most want to see is also the most debateable of success. If there is any patches or small areas like 15 to 20 people together it is a success.

Yep - this is how I feel about it.

BigRedChief
11-15-2012, 08:06 PM
Wouldn't matter the media is already aware of the Blackout. Since it was announced first.The media is aware of us now. Clark and the Chiefs are aware of and our desire to see Pioli gone.

If we don't give Clark a really good reason to change his long term business plan.........he's not going to change.

Count Zarth
11-15-2012, 08:09 PM
This shouldn't be the end of the blackout movement, IMO.

When we get our asses kicked this weekend, push to black out the next two home games.

Phobia
11-15-2012, 08:29 PM
FWIW, I work at a place where Chiefs merchandise is sold. Nothing Chiefs is selling these days but this week if it's selling it's black.

That's encouraging. Thanks.

Phobia
11-15-2012, 08:32 PM
Well surely you knew this going in when it was decided to take the SOC in this direction.

I kinda jumped in after this decision was made. Never been a huge fan of the idea simply because I've always thought it was going to be tough to even get 20-30% black shirt wearers. That said, I've done my very best to push the message and support it and will continue to do so. Also plan to attend specifically for the blackout which will be my first game this season. Didn't really have any intentions of going until this.

BigRedChief
11-15-2012, 08:33 PM
This shouldn't be the end of the blackout movement, IMO.

When we get our asses kicked this weekend, push to black out the next two home games.Dude, if it flops, you let the idea go. Basic 101.

tk13
11-15-2012, 08:43 PM
I don't know about that. If it does reasonably well at all you've raised awareness and continue to push it and try to increase participation.

stevieray
11-15-2012, 08:48 PM
Sad to say, but I think the people in black isn't going to be that noticeable for two reasons.

1) Rabid, hardcore fans that live and die Chiefs isn't a huge number...in the context of being vocal...I think the apathetic numbers are growing.

2)A good deal of people out there don't even wear Chiefs gear and are only there to be seen. ..It's a social event.

I'm wondering if it's going to cause confrontations among the hardcore fan base.

...all these are just my opinion, and I'll admit, I'm curious and even a little anxious to see how it all plays out...I could be wrong on all accounts.

Deberg_1990
11-15-2012, 08:52 PM
Sad to say, but I think the people in black isn't going to be that noticeable for two reasons.

1) rabid, hardcore fans that live and die Chiefs isn't a huge number...in the context of being vocal...I think the apathetic numbers are growing.

2)A good deal of people out there don't even wear Chiefs gear and are only there to be seen. ..It's a social event.

I'm wondering if it's going to cause confrontations among the hardcore fan base.

...all these are just my opinion, and I'll admit, I'm curious and even a little anxious to see how it all play out...

heh, my thoughts exactly. The Die hard, passionate fanbase which this boards represents, is probably only around 20-30% anyways. The rest of the fans that show up there are apathetic, just looking to have a good time or the type of fan that thinks the Chiefs can do no wrong.

Hopefully theres no violence.......

BigRedChief
11-15-2012, 08:55 PM
I don't know about that. If it does reasonably well at all you've raised awareness and continue to push it and try to increase participation.Has anyone on here ever taken a marketing class? Done any PR? :facepalm:

DaFace
11-15-2012, 09:06 PM
Hopefully theres no violence.......

If there is violence over this, I would seriously consider whether I belong in this fan base. That would be unfathomably idiotic.

DaneMcCloud
11-15-2012, 09:13 PM
Hopefully theres no violence.......

Violence?

Bugeater
11-15-2012, 09:13 PM
If there is violence over this, I would seriously consider whether I belong in this fan base. That would be unfathomably idiotic.
Your choice to be a fan.

lewdog
11-15-2012, 09:15 PM
Your choice to be a fan.

Your choice to be a butteater.

Phobia
11-15-2012, 09:22 PM
If there is violence over this, I would seriously consider whether I belong in this fan base. That would be unfathomably idiotic.

There is a contingent which keeps talking about it. They're not threatening violence but it's almost like they're borderline promoting it. I'm not going to jail over stupid black shirts and this crappy team but I will defend myself very well if assaulted.

|Zach|
11-15-2012, 09:26 PM
This shouldn't be the end of the blackout movement, IMO.

When we get our asses kicked this weekend, push to black out the next two home games.

Diminishing returns.

|Zach|
11-15-2012, 09:28 PM
Has anyone on here ever taken a marketing class? Done any PR? :facepalm:

I pretty much hate every single post you make these days.

|Zach|
11-15-2012, 09:31 PM
I am skeptical the needle can be moved that much more though through no fault of SOC's. There really isn't some deeper level of saturation this message can really make.

Deberg_1990
11-15-2012, 09:36 PM
There is a contingent which keeps talking about it. They're not threatening violence but it's almost like they're borderline promoting it. I'm not going to jail over stupid black shirts and this crappy team but I will defend myself very well if assaulted.

Why is that? Where are these misperceptions about SOC coming from?

Brock
11-15-2012, 09:51 PM
Has anyone on here ever taken a marketing class? Done any PR? :facepalm:

Is this another topic you're an expert in?

|Zach|
11-15-2012, 09:54 PM
Is this another topic you're an expert in?

LMAO

Phobia
11-15-2012, 11:32 PM
Why is that? Where are these misperceptions about SOC coming from?

There's a group of women affiliated with that Koolaid goofball. Most of the crap comes from that direction.

|Zach|
11-15-2012, 11:34 PM
There's a group of women affiliated with that Koolaid goofball. Most of the crap comes from that direction.

Clowns...the lot of them.

Guru
11-15-2012, 11:54 PM
I sure hope there is a significant enough turnout for this on Sunday. Of course, it will be played down no matter how many of us there are.

Simply Red
11-15-2012, 11:55 PM
There is a contingent which keeps talking about it. They're not threatening violence but it's almost like they're borderline promoting it. I'm not going to jail over stupid black shirts and this crappy team but I will defend myself very well if assaulted.

Phil I've got your back champ.

AussieChiefsFan
11-16-2012, 12:28 AM
Yea, this could really easily look like all hype with no effect afterwards. But none-the-less SOC has made an impact.

BossChief
11-16-2012, 12:48 AM
There's a group of women affiliated with that Koolaid goofball. Most of the crap comes from that direction.

truly ironic

Guru
11-16-2012, 01:26 AM
There's a group of women affiliated with that Koolaid goofball. Most of the crap comes from that direction.

Would you stop bringing that guy up. :evil:

Phobia
11-16-2012, 01:39 AM
I'm sorry. It's true. I don't chase it. It chases me. JD Prez Jr. is in the house.

soopamanluva
11-16-2012, 06:30 AM
im just not going anymore. Ill eat the money for the ST. its the pricniple of the matter now. Everything they have done, they dont deserve my support.

memyselfI
11-16-2012, 06:38 AM
The only thing that can go wrong is exactly what he says in the article... Clark sees it and thinks it's only a small portion of crazies who are upset and decides to give Pioli 2 more years. Otherwise it's probably positive promotion.

But that's the risk you take when you go from almost a guerrilla warfare style of getting someone's attention to putting yourself out in the open and saying come at me. All the mystery is gone.

Holy Blackfire, Batman.

Here's hoping that isn't the case.

3rd&48ers
11-16-2012, 06:41 AM
Hell Ya!!!! Lets cripple these sons of bitches

http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/money_pit.jpeg

King_Chief_Fan
11-16-2012, 06:43 AM
The only thing that can go wrong is exactly what he says in the article... Clark sees it and thinks it's only a small portion of crazies who are upset and decides to give Pioli 2 more years. Otherwise it's probably positive promotion.

But that's the risk you take when you go from almost a guerrilla warfare style of getting someone's attention to putting yourself out in the open and saying come at me. All the mystery is gone.


If Hunt is that big of a dufus, then his franchise is headed for serious peril.
Will that be enough for season ticket holders to give it up?

Hunt should know that a few thousand represents a lot more. Not everyone who agrees with the SOC movement can attend. If he is smart he is taking all this in and let's hope he realizes what he needs to do.

Nzoner
11-16-2012, 06:54 AM
Dude, if it flops, you let the idea go. Basic 101.

:shake:

"I never see failure as failure but only as the game I must play to win."

58-4ever
11-16-2012, 09:39 AM
Someone tried to sell me a ticket for 70 dollars today. I laughed in his face. I wouldn't pay 70 dollars to sit on the bench.

Phobia
11-16-2012, 10:05 AM
Hell Ya!!!! Lets cripple these sons of bitches

http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/money_pit.jpeg

Don't think you've been paying attention.

Phobia
11-16-2012, 10:36 AM
Someone tried to sell me a ticket for 70 dollars today. I laughed in his face. I wouldn't pay 70 dollars to sit on the bench.

I made a friend really mad laughing at him for asking face value for his 4 seats and offering to throw the parking pass in for free.

Rausch
11-16-2012, 10:45 AM
That's the main reason why it should be the 1st game, not "the game."

Blackout Arrowhead should now be ( with the Raiders games behind us) an every week movement and push.

Don't do this one week do this every week, starting this week.

Phobia
11-16-2012, 10:49 AM
Lets just see what happens this game.

notorious
11-16-2012, 10:49 AM
That's the main reason why it should be the 1st game, not "the game."

Blackout Arrowhead should now be ( with the Raiders games behind us) an every week movement and push.

Don't do this one week do this every week, starting this week.

This.

People at the stadium will see the black and think,"That's a good idea".


Next thing you know it grows x2 every home game. Give it time.

Rausch
11-16-2012, 10:51 AM
Lets just see what happens this game.

It will be minimal.

We all know that.

But if it's a movement, like pushing out a very hard and very uncomfortable turd, it could grow.

Then again being timid like Clark might be more civilized and appreciated by those in management and they'll respond to our requests...

notorious
11-16-2012, 10:52 AM
But if it's a movement, like pushing out a very hard and very uncomfortable turd, it could grow.

...

Reads like poetry. LMAO

Rausch
11-16-2012, 10:54 AM
Reads like poetry. LMAO

It's appropriate...

Chiefnj2
11-16-2012, 10:55 AM
The people wearing black need to stay to the end of the game even if it is a blowout. The few black shirts will stand out more when the stadium starts to empty at halftime.

3rd&48ers
11-16-2012, 11:04 AM
Don't think you've been paying attention.

Oh yes I have... You all want to shame the franchise to the point the base does not spend any money with them...


I think you guys are possibly the worst fans in the NFL

Rausch
11-16-2012, 11:09 AM
Oh yes I have... You all want to shame the franchise to the point the base does not spend any money with them...


I think you guys are possibly the worst fans in the NFL

You have no clue at all...

Phobia
11-16-2012, 11:10 AM
Oh yes I have... You all want to shame the franchise to the point the base does not spend any money with them...


I think you guys are possibly the worst fans in the NFL

I definitely value your opinion.

Rausch
11-16-2012, 11:11 AM
I definitely value your opinion.

You're clearly practicing for an upcoming interview...

Deberg_1990
11-16-2012, 11:37 AM
Oh yes I have... You all want to shame the franchise to the point the base does not spend any money with them...


I think you guys are possibly the worst fans in the NFL

I think you might be the worst financial advisor on this board.

Chief Roundup
11-16-2012, 12:14 PM
Oh yes I have... You all want to shame the franchise to the point the base does not spend any money with them...


I think you guys are possibly the worst fans in the NFL

This word is incorrect IMO. Unless you are just doing a little trolling. Which I have noticed you doing a lot more lately.
I personally don't mean any shame at all. It is merely trying to show the franchise that the fans love this franchise and that the direction lately is not acceptable. Doing things like this is the only way for fans to communicate with the franchise. Letters don't send a strong enough message.

Chief Roundup
11-16-2012, 12:16 PM
You're clearly practicing for an upcoming interview...

More like a public office.

jlw62987
11-16-2012, 12:27 PM
Most people don't even know what the Blackout even means. Its going to be the same red we see every Sunday.

Cephalic Trauma
11-16-2012, 12:45 PM
Most people don't even know what the Blackout even means. Its going to be the same red we see every Sunday.

And you know this how?

Cephalic Trauma
11-16-2012, 12:48 PM
Oh yes I have... You all want to shame the franchise to the point the base does not spend any money with them...


I think you guys are possibly the worst fans in the NFL

Or the best, depending how you look at it. It's clear a good portion of this fan base actually cares enough to organize a movement that has clearly gained some steam. How much, I don't really know, but it's a valiant effort.

hometeam
11-16-2012, 12:54 PM
On the note of negative things being said about SOC and the blackout, there is a post in the Chiefs Crowd facebook today where a woman has decided that SOC has promoted violence against other fans and players, including possibly throwing things at or even SHOOTING at Matt Cassel.

Graystoke
11-16-2012, 12:56 PM
On the note of negative things being said about SOC and the blackout, there is a post in the Chiefs Crowd facebook today where a woman has decided that SOC has promoted violence against other fans and players, including possibly throwing things at or even SHOOTING at Matt Cassel.

If Matt Cassel shot Matt Cassel....he would miss

Sorter
11-16-2012, 01:14 PM
Most people don't even know what the Blackout even means. Its going to be the same red we see every Sunday.

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu225/ignotussomnium/Macros/GIFs/gif-plzbeanhero.gif

Bearcat
11-16-2012, 01:23 PM
On the note of negative things being said about SOC and the blackout, there is a post in the Chiefs Crowd facebook today where a woman has decided that SOC has promoted violence against other fans and players, including possibly throwing things at or even SHOOTING at Matt Cassel.

:facepalm:

I'm sure they're waiting for the moment they can call the blackout a failure... Barry will probably have 8 podcasts dedicated to the amount of black in the crowd.

The ignorance and stupidity is overwhelming.

hometeam
11-16-2012, 01:29 PM
Digging a little deeper, there is a whole faction over at CC who believe that the SOC movements motto is 'Divide our fans' and that we are contacting national and local media to destroy the reputation of Chiefs fans around the league. These people are living in SUCH a fantasy world. Reminds me of scientologists or something.

Sorter
11-16-2012, 01:33 PM
Digging a little deeper, there is a whole faction over at CC who believe that the SOC movements motto is 'Divide our fans' and that we are contacting national and local media to destroy the reputation of Chiefs fans around the league. These people are living in SUCH a fantasy world. Reminds me of scientologists or something.

ROFL, seriously?


Wow. I guess BlackBob's origin makes a little more sense now.

Bearcat
11-16-2012, 01:44 PM
Digging a little deeper, there is a whole faction over at CC who believe that the SOC movements motto is 'Divide our fans' and that we are contacting national and local media to destroy the reputation of Chiefs fans around the league. These people are living in SUCH a fantasy world. Reminds me of scientologists or something.

Some of the posts I read on FB give me flashbacks to high school... people are far more concerned about what others (the media) think of them than why they show up. It's not about wins, and even if it is, it's nothing compared to our reputation as a fanbase. Give me a freakin' break. Even when ESPN picks up on the drama of supposedly cheering Cassel's injury, they move onto the next shiny drama a day later and everyone goes back to not caring about this or any other fanbase.

Cephalic Trauma
11-16-2012, 01:47 PM
Some of the posts I read on FB give me flashbacks to high school... people are far more concerned about what others (the media) think of them than why they show up. It's not about wins, and even if it is, it's nothing compared to our reputation as a fanbase. Give me a freakin' break. Even when ESPN picks up on the drama of supposedly cheering Cassel's injury, they move onto the next shiny drama a day later and everyone goes back to not caring about this or any other fanbase.

Well said.

3rd&48ers
11-16-2012, 03:16 PM
I think you might be the worst financial advisor on this board.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/24696719.jpg

bevischief
11-16-2012, 03:20 PM
Digging a little deeper, there is a whole faction over at CC who believe that the SOC movements motto is 'Divide our fans' and that we are contacting national and local media to destroy the reputation of Chiefs fans around the league. These people are living in SUCH a fantasy world. Reminds me of scientologists or something.

Wow. ROFL.
With all the radio and TV time this movement has gotten. Just can't get thru to some people...

Nzoner
11-17-2012, 06:36 AM
Heard Sam on 610 yesterday and he will not be wearing black although they are predicting that some of the media will be.

Deberg_1990
11-17-2012, 06:50 AM
Heard Sam on 610 yesterday and he will not be wearing black although they are predicting that some of the media will be.

I thought the media was supposed to stay impartial?

bevischief
11-17-2012, 06:53 AM
I will have my black underwear on for tomorrow's game.

BigRedChief
11-17-2012, 07:10 AM
I will have my black underwear on for tomorrow's game.For the love of God, no pictures please.

AussieChiefsFan
11-17-2012, 07:13 AM
LMAOFor the love of God, no pictures please.

BigRedChief
11-17-2012, 07:16 AM
On the note of negative things being said about SOC and the blackout, there is a post in the Chiefs Crowd facebook today where a woman has decided that SOC has promoted violence against other fans and players, including possibly throwing things at or even SHOOTING at Matt Cassel.The only option is to ignore these people. You will not change their mind, they have to do this on their own. And if you take that time to speak truth to them, you get bogged down and don't keep moving forward.

Rausch
11-17-2012, 07:30 AM
Digging a little deeper, there is a whole faction over at CC who believe that the SOC movements motto is 'Divide our fans' and that we are contacting national and local media to destroy the reputation of Chiefs fans around the league.

They have a big case of internets penis envy...

WhiteWhale
11-17-2012, 07:58 AM
In my eyes, this wearing black stuff is just hand wringing.

Clark will fire Pioli if he cares enough to win football games. If he's stupid enough to keep drinking the kool-aid after this shit show, I'm not watching the chiefs until he's fired. I'm done.

Regardless of if you wear black at this point the opinion of the fanbase is pretty well known to anyone paying attention at all. The ball is in his court. I'm done flailing my arms about it.

Phobia
11-17-2012, 08:10 AM
In my eyes, this wearing black stuff is just hand wringing.

Clark will fire Pioli if he cares enough to win football games. If he's stupid enough to keep drinking the kool-aid after this shit show, I'm not watching the chiefs until he's fired. I'm done.

Regardless of if you wear black at this point the opinion of the fanbase is pretty well known to anyone paying attention at all. The ball is in his court. I'm done flailing my arms about it.

This is true. But Lamar kept this franchise at status quo for decades in the 70's and 80's. We're kinda hoping Clark won't repeat history. I think taking a stand is a whole lot better than just quitting. But we all cope differently and I'm sure I'll reach the "I quit" point someday too.

outhega
11-17-2012, 08:14 AM
I don't think it a ton of people will wear black to the game. That being said I think when we start getting blown out and the people wearing red start leaving in the late 3rd and 4th quarters, you will see that the truly passionate fans still in the stands at the end of the game will be clad in black. That, to me, will be a pretty good statement.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-17-2012, 08:15 AM
I think the blackout is pointless but I like and agree with the passion because that is how I feel. But I wouldn't fly banners or do a blackout. Clark will clean house because things are real bad (and they are), not because the fans are wearing black or flying banners. Results talk. Loss of money talks. Y'all should use the money being used for banners for a CP get together or an auction to help support the site or raffle off stuff or something like that. Clark isn't stupid. Pioli isn't coming back. He knows it'd be suicide. He's going to make changes because we're 1-8, not because we're flying banners and wearing black shirts.

3rd&48ers
11-17-2012, 08:17 AM
Admit you are wrong and back down now to save face.....

You are a fan, not the owner, if you don't like what you see, don't buy tickets.

Chief Roundup
11-17-2012, 08:33 AM
I think the blackout is pointless but I like and agree with the passion because that is how I feel. But I wouldn't fly banners or do a blackout. Clark will clean house because things are real bad (and they are), not because the fans are wearing black or flying banners. Results talk. Loss of money talks. Y'all should use the money being used for banners for a CP get together or an auction to help support the site or raffle off stuff or something like that. Clark isn't stupid. Pioli isn't coming back. He knows it'd be suicide. He's going to make changes because we're 1-8, not because we're flying banners and wearing black shirts.

Yeah we are 1-8 almost beat the Steelers. Granted they were minus Ben for some of the game but still it was our best game up to this point in the season. We still have the Raiders, Browns, on the road and the Panthers at Arrowhead that are winnable if we play like we did against the Steelers.
If we end up at 3-13 or 4-12 I am not so sure the Pioli gets the axe.

Chiefnj2
11-17-2012, 08:36 AM
My gut tells me Pioli signed an extension after 2010 and Clark will not want to buy out the remainder.

Chief Roundup
11-17-2012, 08:37 AM
Admit you are wrong and back down now to save face.....

You are a fan, not the owner, if you don't like what you see, don't buy tickets.

We love our Chiefs. We are not wrong. We will not Back Down!

We are trying to restore the majesty back to Arrowhead that Pioli and this current regime has taken away.
We are not shaming this franchise as you have proclaimed.

Chief Roundup
11-17-2012, 08:39 AM
My gut tells me Pioli signed an extension after 2010 and Clark will not want to buy out the remainder.

That is fear.

3rd&48ers
11-17-2012, 08:40 AM
We love our Chiefs. We are not wrong. We will not Back Down!

We are trying to restore the majesty back to Arrowhead that Pioli and this current regime has taken away.
We are not shaming this franchise as you have proclaimed.

Good luck, I think a wedge is dividing the fanbase

ImAWalkingCorpse
11-17-2012, 08:42 AM
Good luck, I think a wedge is dividing the fanbase

His name is Scott Pioli.

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-17-2012, 09:55 AM
Admit you are wrong and back down now to save face.....

You are a fan, not the owner, if you don't like what you see, don't buy tickets.

...and as a fan we have the avenues to voice our displeasure. This regime said they could get 22 guys off the street and field a better team than Herm. The team can't win a home game and more often than not gets blown out to boot. Fuck them.

You are free to slurp up the Silver and Black dogshit all want though.

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-17-2012, 09:58 AM
*Waiter serves Reighters his burger with a turd on it*

"Mmmmmm tasty sir. Enjoy the big tip."

Pestilence
11-17-2012, 10:13 AM
I think the blackout is pointless but I like and agree with the passion because that is how I feel. But I wouldn't fly banners or do a blackout. Clark will clean house because things are real bad (and they are), not because the fans are wearing black or flying banners. Results talk. Loss of money talks. Y'all should use the money being used for banners for a CP get together or an auction to help support the site or raffle off stuff or something like that. Clark isn't stupid. Pioli isn't coming back. He knows it'd be suicide. He's going to make changes because we're 1-8, not because we're flying banners and wearing black shirts.

The whole point is to show Clark the frustration that this fanbase has for Pioli. I don't think there is one person out there who fully thought that this would cause him to fire Pioli. It's to show Clark that we aren't happy with how this team is playing. It's still up to Clark to make the fucking decision.

3rd&48ers
11-17-2012, 10:17 AM
*Waiter serves Reighters his burger with a turd on it*

"Mmmmmm tasty sir. Enjoy the big tip."

tHIS GIRL IS ON FIRE.... THIS GIRL IS ON FIIIIIIIIIRE!