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Marco Polo
11-15-2012, 01:22 PM
Sorry if repost; per Rotoworld:

ESPN's Mel Kiper believes the Chiefs should select Notre Dame ILB Mant Te'o with the first overall selection, if they end up with it in April.

Kiper explains this decision by saying no top quarterback stands out at the top and the Chiefs do not need pass rushing help from the outside linebacker spot due to Tamba Hali and Justin Houston already being on the roster. We believe one of the quarterbacks will separate themselves during the pre-draft process, and also disagree that an inside linebacker should be selected in the top five.

loochy
11-15-2012, 01:23 PM
Loochy believes that Mel Kiper can suck it

BigMeatballDave
11-15-2012, 01:24 PM
Kiper is an idiot.

theelusiveeightrop
11-15-2012, 01:25 PM
Mel Kiper has nice hair.

okoye35chiefs
11-15-2012, 01:26 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Buddy Rich
11-15-2012, 01:26 PM
Here’s Mel Kiper talking about former LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell, who was on his way to becoming one of the biggest busts in NFL history:

“Look out,” Kiper told ESPN viewers during the 2007 draft, “because (his) skill level is certainly John Elway like.” Kiper went on to say Russell had a chance in three seasons to become an “elite” NFL quarterback.

BoneKrusher
11-15-2012, 01:29 PM
just what we need, another high draft pick on the defense and no QB.

suds79
11-15-2012, 01:31 PM
An ILB with that high of a draft pick???? Is he high?

When you draft that high you have to take one of the following...

QB, LT, DE (or pass rusher OLB), CB, WR.

That's it.

Chocolate Hog
11-15-2012, 01:31 PM
If Scott Pioli is still the GM i don't want them to take a QB.

KC_Lee
11-15-2012, 01:31 PM
If he thinks that the Chiefs need to draft an ILB with the first pick he's been huffing his hairspray too much.

listopencil
11-15-2012, 01:34 PM
An ILB with that high of a draft pick???? Is he high?

When you draft that high you have to take one of the following...

QB, LT, DE (or pass rusher OLB), CB, WR.

That's it.

Yeah. I don't see taking an ILB high in the first.

BoneKrusher
11-15-2012, 01:34 PM
If Scott Pioli is still the GM i don't want them to take a QB.

i agree.

Graystoke
11-15-2012, 01:35 PM
I hope Geno kicks Mel Kiper in the nuts

notorious
11-15-2012, 01:35 PM
JFC

What a fucking idiot.

L.A. Chieffan
11-15-2012, 01:35 PM
the nightmare will never end

Chiefnj2
11-15-2012, 01:36 PM
An ILB with that high of a draft pick???? Is he high?

When you draft that high you have to take one of the following...

QB, LT, DE (or pass rusher OLB), CB, WR.

That's it.

If the future Patrick Willis is available and you have a QB, you take the player.

RunKC
11-15-2012, 01:37 PM
And who the fuck does this assclown think we should take as a QB if we aren't taking him at 1?

I doubt Tyler Bray will come out.

King_Chief_Fan
11-15-2012, 01:37 PM
If Scott Pioli is still the GM i don't want them to take a QB.

I agree, we see what that numbskull does when it comes to QB's.
Cassel
Quinn
Stanzi
Palko
Tanney

SNR
11-15-2012, 01:37 PM
That's like saying the Colts in 1997 shouldn't have drafted Peyton Manning because Ryan Leaf was considered to be just as good.

mr. tegu
11-15-2012, 01:38 PM
Sorry if repost; per Rotoworld:

ESPN's Mel Kiper believes the Chiefs should select Notre Dame ILB Mant Te'o with the first overall selection, if they end up with it in April.

Kiper explains this decision by saying no top quarterback stands out at the top and the Chiefs do not need pass rushing help from the outside linebacker spot due to Tamba Hali and Justin Houston already being on the roster. We believe one of the quarterbacks will separate themselves during the pre-draft process, and also disagree that an inside linebacker should be selected in the top five.

Am I missing something? Isn't he contradicting himself?

Frosty
11-15-2012, 01:38 PM
ESPN's Mel Kiper believes the Chiefs should select Notre Dame ILB Mant Te'o with the first overall selection, if they end up with it in April.

http://i46.tinypic.com/5bbpds.jpg

SNR
11-15-2012, 01:38 PM
If the future Patrick Willis is available and you have a QB, you take the player.

But the Chiefs don't so... yeah.

SNR
11-15-2012, 01:39 PM
Am I missing something? Isn't he contradicting himself?

This is being reported by Rotoworld. They disagree with him.

mr. tegu
11-15-2012, 01:40 PM
This is being reported by Rotoworld. They disagree with him.

Oh okay I see. Thanks! I can't think straight due to his take on this.

suds79
11-15-2012, 01:41 PM
If the future Patrick Willis is available and you have a QB, you take the player.

Sure there's always exceptions to the rule but lets be honest, there's only 1 Patrick Willis.

ILB just isn't enough of a big impact position to warrant that type of draft spot.

Trade down? Maybe (and that's assuming we still get that 1st round QB). But can't sit there and do it.

Pestilence
11-15-2012, 01:42 PM
I'd JIMP.......and then shoot myself in the head.

siberian khatru
11-15-2012, 01:43 PM
Trading down for Dee Milliner FTW!

SNR
11-15-2012, 01:43 PM
This is a very deep year for ILBs, too, kind of like how 2010 was a deep draft for safeties. Not saying Eric Berry wasn't the right pick, but it would have been easy to rationalize going a different direction at 5 then picking up a quality safety in the middle rounds.

Chiefnj2
11-15-2012, 01:44 PM
Sure there's always exceptions to the rule but lets be honest, there's only 1 Patrick Willis.

ILB just isn't enough of a big impact position to warrant that type of draft spot.

Trade down? Maybe (and that's assuming we still get that 1st round QB). But can't sit there and do it.

3 years after the draft nobody cares about the position, just whether or not they are good players. If you've got a perennial pro bowler, you did well.

Chocolate Hog
11-15-2012, 01:44 PM
This is a very deep year for ILBs, too, kind of like how 2010 was a deep draft for safeties. Not saying Eric Berry wasn't the right pick, but it would have been easy to rationalize going a different direction at 5 then picking up a quality safety in the middle rounds.

Dude if we get Teo we can keep Cassel and just run the ball 50 times a game and go 7-9 by winning games 9-6.

RunKC
11-15-2012, 01:44 PM
Why in the fuck is this class being called shitty? It looks much better than the 2008 class for crying out loud.

Seriously. Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco weren't exactly lighting it up in college and look at them now.

God I hate Kiper.

suds79
11-15-2012, 01:48 PM
3 years after the draft nobody cares about the position, just whether or not they are good players. If you've got a perennial pro bowler, you did well.

Eh I disagree. If there was a perennial pro bowl Guard out there and the Chiefs used that 1 or 2 pick on him, I'd still be upset. Why? Because we still wouldn't be winning SBs.

No we'd be better off just taking the best available QB. You'd either hit and be eligible for a SB down the road, or you'd whiff and come back in 3-4 years and take another QB.

listopencil
11-15-2012, 01:48 PM
If the future Patrick Willis is available and you have a QB, you take the player.


Now explain why the Chiefs would make that move. Drunk on draft day? The entire FO is killed in a horrible plane crash and Clark's heretofore unknown crack addicted half brother is running the draft? Someone accidentally sends up a printout of this article and the Commish reads off the first player name he sees? What's the excuse?

SNR
11-15-2012, 01:49 PM
3 years after the draft nobody cares about the position, just whether or not they are good players. If you've got a perennial pro bowler, you did well.

If Tyson Jackson played like Richard Seymour, I'd still be fucking pissed that we took him at fucking 3.

suds79
11-15-2012, 01:50 PM
Why in the **** is this class being called shitty? It looks much better than the 2008 class for crying out loud.

Seriously. Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco weren't exactly lighting it up in college and look at them now.

God I hate Kiper.

Yep. It's a crapshoot. Might as well take a position that matters.

Ben Roethlisberger went 11th overall in 04. Just because some scouts believe Matt Barkley to be around the #10-15th best player in this league doesn't me that's where we'll stay.

hometeam
11-15-2012, 01:50 PM
I think Kiper lives to get negative reactions from his BS.

Ignore him. I mean christ hes still rocking the bevis and butthead hairdo.

Frosty
11-15-2012, 01:50 PM
This is a very deep year for ILBs, too, kind of like how 2010 was a deep draft for safeties. Not saying Eric Berry wasn't the right pick, but it would have been easy to rationalize going a different direction at 5 then picking up a quality safety in the middle rounds.

Just think - they could have gotten Burfict last year instead of Junior Hemingway or Jerome ****ing Long.

notorious
11-15-2012, 01:51 PM
It's like the ESPN retards read CP and say shit just to piss us off even more.

Chiefnj2
11-15-2012, 01:59 PM
No we'd be better off just taking the best available QB. You'd either hit and be eligible for a SB down the road, or you'd whiff and come back in 3-4 years and take another QB.

My original post said "if you have the QB" then the position doesn't matter, take the highest graded player.

listopencil
11-15-2012, 02:03 PM
My original post said "if you have the QB" then the position doesn't matter, take the highest graded player.

It's not that simple. You have to look at "bang for your buck" in the draft. The #1 guy in a position of lesser impact isn't going to help you as much as the #2 or even #3 guy in a position of greater impact.

scho63
11-15-2012, 02:07 PM
Mel Kiper received $5,000 from Pioli to say that shit!

Reerun_KC
11-15-2012, 02:07 PM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/29/AbandonThread.gif

Von Dumbass
11-15-2012, 02:08 PM
Shaping up to be a good yr for OT's and DL. Down year for QBs and RBs. #2013NFLDrafthttps://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/269164565185560577

DaneMcCloud
11-15-2012, 02:11 PM
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/269164565185560577

As a Chiefs fan, I couldn't give a fuck about "how deep" or how "good" this quarterback "class" may or may not be in 2013.

All I care about is the Chiefs choosing the RIGHT GUY with the #1 overall pick.

I couldn't care less about the others.

jspchief
11-15-2012, 02:11 PM
A high first round pick is all this defense needs to be top notch.

Woodchuck
11-15-2012, 02:16 PM
I don't like Kiper but, i agree that we won't take a QB with the #1 pick. I could see us taking Te'o if we could move back but a MLB at #1 seems unlikely. However, we need leadership badly and he is hands down the best leader in the draft.

I really don't think a QB will go #1 this year.

keg in kc
11-15-2012, 02:19 PM
Worst. Idea. Ever.

And I could totally see Pioli doing that.

theelusiveeightrop
11-15-2012, 02:21 PM
Mel Kper is never wrong.

Bump
11-15-2012, 02:22 PM
he's trolling

saying something stupid just to get attention. Stupid journalism.

mr. tegu
11-15-2012, 02:22 PM
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/269164565185560577

Who cares. We need ONE QB and the rest can be supplemented however. If there was only one QB projected in the first round it would be a bad year for QBs but that is the only one we need. I couldn't care less if the other teams get a shot at a QB.

notorious
11-15-2012, 02:23 PM
The draft experts really are idiots. They boast about how much work they put in researching players, etc. but in the end they are just as if not more idiotic than a casual fan.

Woodchuck
11-15-2012, 02:26 PM
he's trolling

saying something stupid just to get attention. Stupid journalism.

He is and he isn't.

No one will take a MLB #1 overall. Unless, the rookie cap makes that much of an impact??? But, I doubt it will.

Anyway, he probably is getting attention saying a MLB will go #1 but, it's not going to be a QB. He's right about that. There are going to be several players ranked above the first QB on draft boards.

Cave Johnson
11-15-2012, 02:28 PM
A high first round pick is all this defense needs to be top notch.

Belcher's the weak link!!!

alpha_omega
11-15-2012, 02:29 PM
I am sure that would go over well here on CP.

Reerun_KC
11-15-2012, 02:31 PM
You need a QB to win in a QB driven league...

You cant deny or excuse it....

Chiefs will never win a superbowl without one... Stop playing dick hole games and draft a QB. Its pretty simple... You dont get a QB at the #1 spot, you dont deserver to ever win a championship.

SNR
11-15-2012, 02:35 PM
Fucking enough of this.

Bob, let's make a wager. I say a QB is going #1 overall. You say it will be a different player at a different position.

What do you want to bet? I'll do anything. Sigs, avatars, beer. Name it.

the Talking Can
11-15-2012, 02:36 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


the only person fucking stupid enough to draft a LB at #1 over a QB is black retard...and Kiper, I guess...embarrassing

Buckweath
11-15-2012, 02:36 PM
Lol, I find it really funny. I'd bet my life that the Chiefs will draft a QB with their first round pick, despite the history.

Woodchuck
11-15-2012, 02:38 PM
****ing enough of this.

Bob, let's make a wager. I say a QB is going #1 overall. You say it will be a different player at a different position.

What do you want to bet? I'll do anything. Sigs, avatars, beer. Name it.

Ok, avatars sound good.

NJChiefsFan
11-15-2012, 02:38 PM
Kiper is trolling us like Raiders/Broncos fans can only dream of right now.

BigMeatballDave
11-15-2012, 02:39 PM
If Tyson Jackson played like Richard Seymour, I'd still be fucking pissed that we took him at fucking 3.

Eh, if that were the case, most of us would be over it by now.

Woodchuck
11-15-2012, 02:39 PM
Lol, I find it really funny. I'd bet my life that the Chiefs will draft a QB with their first round pick, despite the history.

Who does the best QB in this class compare to? I think that is what you have to ask yourself.

To me, Tyler Wilson is the best QB and he compares to Jay Cutler. I'm not taking Cutler #1 overall.

saphojunkie
11-15-2012, 02:40 PM
I will agree with Mel Kiper that Manti Te'o is the absolute best bet on landing a perennial pro bowler in this draft.

Doesn't change the fact that you don't take him if you're KC.

If you want him so badly, trade your next first and Dwayne Bowe to St. Louis for one of their top 10 picks and draft him AFTER you get Geno Smith.

saphojunkie
11-15-2012, 02:42 PM
Who does the best QB in this class compare to? I think that is what you have to ask yourself.

To me, Tyler Wilson is the best QB and he compares to Jay Cutler.

You are just so very wrong all the time. Why do you post such jackass opinions when you are so very wrong?

Chiefs Pantalones
11-15-2012, 02:44 PM
Fuck Mel Kiper. Draft a QB or heads will be decapitated.

Woodchuck
11-15-2012, 02:44 PM
I will agree with Mel Kiper that Manti Te'o is the absolute best bet on landing a perennial pro bowler in this draft.

Doesn't change the fact that you don't take him if you're KC.

If you want him so badly, trade your next first and Dwayne Bowe to St. Louis for one of their top 10 picks and draft him AFTER you get Geno Smith.

I agree and I want KC to take him badly. The problem is that we probably won't be able to trade Bowe unless we tag him a second time and it would cost a fortune if we couldn't trade him. We would probably have to either give up future picks and/or other players.

You are just so very wrong all the time. Why do you post such jackass opinions when you are so very wrong?

What am I wrong about? Who does your guy compare to? This is the Bill Parcells test. If you can't think of anyone that a guy compares to, you do not take him. It's a ledgit question imo.


Why was that opinion a jackass opinion? Can you really say that yet? Some people are comparing Wilson to Favre.

scott free
11-15-2012, 02:46 PM
Kiper - "i'm an overpaid buffoon"

KCDC
11-15-2012, 02:48 PM
On the NFL draft breakdown on ESPN, Mel stated that Stanzi will have the BEST NFL career of all the quarterbacks in the years draft.

He nailed that one too.

vailpass
11-15-2012, 02:51 PM
He's being different so set himself apart, blowing smoke up his own ass.
This what Kiper does, it's how he's managed to get himself paid handsomely all these years for doing nothing all year but talking about the draft.

Woodchuck
11-15-2012, 02:52 PM
He's being different so set himself apart, blowing smoke up his own ass.
This what Kiper does, it's how he's managed to get himself paid handsomely all these years for doing nothing all year but talking about the draft.

Everyone knows Kiper is a douchbag. That said, As a Broncos fan would you be more worried if we took Te'o or one of the QBs #1 overall?

DaneMcCloud
11-15-2012, 02:52 PM
Mel Kiper is an entertainer, not an NFL Scout, College Personnel or Pro Personnel Director or NFL General Manager.

Entertainer.

vailpass
11-15-2012, 02:56 PM
Everyone knows Kiper is a douchbag. That said, As a Broncos fan would you be more worried if we took Te'o or one of the QBs #1 overall?

No.

SNR
11-15-2012, 02:56 PM
Ok, avatars sound good.

Great. How long do you want avatars? A month? Two months?

I'm going to recommend two months, but it's up to you.

Woodchuck
11-15-2012, 02:58 PM
No.

ROFL Come on man.... It was an "oh shit" moment when Denver took Von Miller.

DaneMcCloud
11-15-2012, 02:59 PM
I will agree with Mel Kiper that Manti Te'o is the absolute best bet on landing a perennial pro bowler in this draft.


So was #4 overall 2009 ILB, Aaron Curry.

He was traded just two years later for a 7th round pick.

ILB's are not valuable pieces. If Te'o goes in the Top 3, that team is grossly overpaying, Pro Bowl or not.

DaneMcCloud
11-15-2012, 03:00 PM
ROFL Come on man.... It was an "oh shit" moment when Denver took Von Miller.

Miller and Te'o have completely different skillsets, Retard

Ebolapox
11-15-2012, 03:00 PM
or, you know, not. NEVER take a MLB top two, let alone top five

RunKC
11-15-2012, 03:03 PM
Guys it doesn't matter which of the 3 QB's we choose. If you put them on a team with good coaching and some talent (we defenitely have the talent part) they will succeed. That's all it takes.

Hell look at Mark Sanchez. His team was loaded in his first 2 years and they made him look far better than he really was.
Matt Ryan is an above average QB but he's looked elite because he has a coordinator that's doing his job and 2 elite WR's+best TE ever.
Joe Flacco has a solid OL, elite RB and good WR's...oh and an elite defense to help him out.
Andy Dalton looks better than he is because he has a decent OL, great defense, some guy named AJ Green and a good TE in Gresham.

Hell Matt Motherfucking Cassel looked like a competent QB with talent and coaching for 2 seasons.

It's all about what coach we bring in. Talent is there guys.

Sorter
11-15-2012, 03:05 PM
Miller and Te'o have completely different skillsets, Retard

He really made that comparison?

LMAO.

CoMoChief
11-15-2012, 03:08 PM
Here’s Mel Kiper talking about former LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell, who was on his way to becoming one of the biggest busts in NFL history:

“Look out,” Kiper told ESPN viewers during the 2007 draft, “because (his) skill level is certainly John Elway like.” Kiper went on to say Russell had a chance in three seasons to become an “elite” NFL quarterback.

He had all the talent in the world to be a great QB in this league.

He just had a pea-sized brain, and he was your typical everday lazy-ass from Louisiana.

suds79
11-15-2012, 03:10 PM
Guys it doesn't matter which of the 3 QB's we choose. If you put them on a team with good coaching and some talent (we defenitely have the talent part) they will succeed. That's all it takes.

Hell look at Mark Sanchez. His team was loaded in his first 2 years and they made him look far better than he really was.
Matt Ryan is an above average QB but he's looked elite because he has a coordinator that's doing his job and 2 elite WR's+best TE ever.
Joe Flacco has a solid OL, elite RB and good WR's...oh and an elite defense to help him out.
Andy Dalton looks better than he is because he has a decent OL, great defense, some guy named AJ Green and a good TE in Gresham.

Hell Matt Mother****ing Cassel looked like a competent QB with talent and coaching for 2 seasons.

It's all about what coach we bring in. Talent is there guys.

It's all about what coach we bring in. Talent is there guys.

Could not disagree more. You're devaluing QBs.

Listen to me when I say this... QBs make WRs.

Roddie White has been putting up 1200+ yard seasons because of Matt Ryan.

You think Jordie Nelson and James Jones would make this a solid offense if they were here? Of course not. They've got Aaron Rogers.

Amazing how lucky Peyton Manning was to be surrounded by all that great WR talent all those years. (note sarcasm) I mean it's uncanny how the Colts where to giftwrap to Peyton the Pierre Garcons & Dallas Clarks of the world.... I don't know how he would have made it otherwise. :rolleyes:

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-15-2012, 03:23 PM
That would be awful

vailpass
11-15-2012, 03:30 PM
ROFL Come on man.... It was an "oh shit" moment when Denver took Von Miller.

Different story.

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-15-2012, 03:37 PM
Different story.

Are you sure he isn't one of you?

suds79
11-15-2012, 03:58 PM
ROFL Come on man.... It was an "oh shit" moment when Denver took Von Miller.

Von Miller is a freaking pass rushing OLB.

That's a HUGE difference from ILB. That's like saying Guard & LT are the same thing. "Well they both play on the O-line"

Sorter
11-15-2012, 04:01 PM
Von Miller is a freaking pass rushing OLB.

That's a HUGE difference from ILB. That's like saying Guard & LT are the same thing. "Well they both play on the O-line"

I mean, if anyone had any doubts that he was mentally handicapped, this should clear that up. ROFL

BigMeatballDave
11-15-2012, 04:07 PM
Why is bobtard on the wrong side of every discussion?

I'm certainly wrong on some things. But, fuck. This dude makes CoMoChief look like Nostradamus.

vailpass
11-15-2012, 04:09 PM
I mean, if anyone had any doubts that he was mentally handicapped, this should clear that up. ROFL

Damn. You guys are really piling on here. I'm feeling bad for this guy.

Nightfyre
11-15-2012, 04:09 PM
The only acceptable alternative to a QB would be Jarvis Jones.

Sorter
11-15-2012, 04:12 PM
Damn. You guys are really piling on here. I'm feeling bad for this guy.

Stop that right now.

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/tumblr_m3fhbwz6G11r17168o1_500.gif

vailpass
11-15-2012, 04:13 PM
Stop that right now.



That homo got slapped.

WV
11-15-2012, 05:00 PM
Who the hell listens to Kiper anymore? Mayock is far better but even he goes full on idiot sometimes.

Richard_Cuckold
11-15-2012, 05:03 PM
umm no

BWillie
11-15-2012, 05:05 PM
I don't see who you draft other than Matt Barkley. Even Lane Kiffin can make that team suck, so I don't blame Barkley. He's a talent for sure.

Chiefnj2
11-15-2012, 05:08 PM
Who does the best QB in this class compare to? I think that is what you have to ask yourself.

To me, Tyler Wilson is the best QB and he compares to Jay Cutler. I'm not taking Cutler #1 overall.

You are a troll.

bevischief
11-15-2012, 05:08 PM
JFC...

DeezNutz
11-15-2012, 05:09 PM
With respect to Barkley, there's quite a bit of paralysis by analysis going on. However, I truly do not want Pioli making this decision, since a n00b QB likely means more time for our piece-of-shit GM.

Tough position for the Chiefs unless the Clarks demonstrate some leadership.

notorious
11-15-2012, 05:10 PM
Who the hell listens to Kiper anymore? Mayock is far better but even he goes full on idiot sometimes.

Mayock is all ND now.

RunKC
11-15-2012, 05:25 PM
Who the hell listens to Kiper anymore? Mayock is far better but even he goes full on idiot sometimes.

I remember when Mayock was touting Dexter McCluster and Robert Ayers to be perennial all-stars. Oops. Ha

BossChief
11-15-2012, 06:38 PM
I don't care how good people think Teo is.

He will not be much better (if any) than guys like Rolando McClain, Aaron Curry or Luke Kuechly.

Let me make it simple and easy to understand...

When you don't have a franchise qb, you take the guy that you feel has the best chance at developing into one and then you spend the next 3 years doing everything in your power to help him succeed.

If you already have a franchise quarterback, the only linebackers that are worth top ten draft picks are pass rushers.

DaneMcCloud
11-15-2012, 06:49 PM
I don't care how good people think Teo is.

He will not be much better (if any) than guys like Rolando McClain, Aaron Curry or Luke Kuechly.

Let me make it simple and easy to understand...

When you don't have a franchise qb, you take the guy that you feel has the best chance at developing into one and then you spend the next 3 years doing everything in your power to help him succeed.

If you already have a franchise quarterback, the only linebackers that are worth top ten draft picks are pass rushers.

And there are plenty of examples of pass rushers taken in the second, third and later rounds.

James Harrison was undratfed and cut numerous times.

JASONSAUTO
11-15-2012, 06:51 PM
Mel must have been affected by the general ignorance that exudes from woodspongeblackisuckedatonofcock bobchuckpants
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JASONSAUTO
11-15-2012, 06:54 PM
ROFL Come on man.... It was an "oh shit" moment when Denver took Von Miller.

No it fucking wasn't. That was expected
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Nightfyre
11-15-2012, 06:56 PM
I don't care how good people think Teo is.

He will not be much better (if any) than guys like Rolando McClain, Aaron Curry or Luke Kuechly.

Let me make it simple and easy to understand...

When you don't have a franchise qb, you take the guy that you feel has the best chance at developing into one and then you spend the next 3 years doing everything in your power to help him succeed.

If you already have a franchise quarterback, the only linebackers that are worth top ten draft picks are pass rushers.

I think Jarvis Jones could play inside in a 3-4 and be a three down back. He is really well rounded like Houston is. It would be really hard to pick out which of the four linebackers are blitzing between Houston, Hali, Johnson, and Jones. Plus you always have Arenas and Berry as wild-card blitzers as well. If we ran a zone-blitz 3-4 like Pittsburgh, you would literally be able to bring pressure from anywhere on the field and rely less on your defensive linemen to free things up.

BossChief
11-15-2012, 07:10 PM
And there are plenty of examples of pass rushers taken in the second, third and later rounds.

James Harrison was undratfed and cut numerous times.

You can make that statement about any position...not sure what your point is.

My point is that you don't ever take non pass rushing linebackers in the top ten.

You know what players you take in the top ten that will give your team the impact you should get from that high of a pick?

Quarterback (don't have one)
Left tackle (we have a really good one)
Pass rusher (we have two elite ones)

Nothing else gets a team the win loss impact that a top ten pick should get.

TinyEvel
11-15-2012, 07:25 PM
Mel Kiper for GM!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!1111!!!!

Psyko Tek
11-15-2012, 07:30 PM
I hope Geno kicks Mel Kiper in the nuts

I hope colquitt kicks kiper in the nuts

this guy is a moran

DaneMcCloud
11-15-2012, 08:08 PM
You can make that statement about any position...not sure what your point is.

I was doubling down on your post, not contradicting it.

There was no bigger opponent of Aaron Curry than me circa 2009.

Count Zarth
11-15-2012, 08:10 PM
That would be the worst #1 pick ever.

Ever.

Especially with DJ on the roster.

Saccopoo
11-15-2012, 10:42 PM
If the future Patrick Willis is available and you have a QB, you take the player.

He was last draft.

Luke Kuechly was as close to Pat Willis as you can get. Might be even better considering his instincts. And, as a rookie, he's currently third in the NFL in tackles. That ain't chopped liver.

Chiefs could have had him in the last draft.

However, Derrick Johnson, on a team with no mission or heart or coaching, stands 10th in tackles.

Te'o is a waste of a pick, even if he ends up being the next Dick Butkus.

Go talk to London Fletcher about being able to tackle like a rabid dog and how it relates to Super Bowl wins.

Fuck that.

Quarterback or nothing until it gets right.

Who the fuck takes a LB in the first unless you have a legitimate franchise QB?

Stupid fucking GM's who are ultimately going to get fired, that's who.

BossChief
11-15-2012, 11:03 PM
Hey sac, have you realized that Geno Smith fills all 4 Parcells requirements for drafting a first round qb?...at the same time as possessing all the franchise qb traits?


He must be a senior, because you need time and maturity to develop into a good professional quarterback.
He must be a graduate, because you want someone who takes his responsibilities seriously.
He must be a three-year starter, because you need to make sure his success wasn’t ephemeral and that he has lived as “the guy” for some period of time.
He must have at least 23 wins, because the big passing numbers must come in the context of winning games.

Saccopoo
11-15-2012, 11:13 PM
Hey sac, have you realized that Geno Smith fills all 4 Parcells requirements for drafting a first round qb?...at the same time as possessing all the franchise qb traits?


He must be a senior, because you need time and maturity to develop into a good professional quarterback.
He must be a graduate, because you want someone who takes his responsibilities seriously.
He must be a three-year starter, because you need to make sure his success wasn’t ephemeral and that he has lived as “the guy” for some period of time.
He must have at least 23 wins, because the big passing numbers must come in the context of winning games.

I don't give a flying fuck about Parcells.

I do know that Geno Smith can huck a fucking football like nobody's business.

The guy has an uber quick release, as good as I've ever seen at the college level..he has an over the top delivery...he's got crazy good pocket presence...he's got great touch and accuracy...he's a total fucking gamer.

The guy is total legit in my book.

He was gold his sophomore year running a pro set system. He's getting the chance to air it out under Holgromsem's Air Raid and get used to putting shit up into air in a multiple reciever read system.

He's as good as I've seen at this level in terms of having the talent and potential.

Count Zarth
11-15-2012, 11:13 PM
It's just sad that Branden Albert will get Geno killed.

Ebolapox
11-15-2012, 11:16 PM
It's just sad that Branden Albert will get Geno killed.

:spock:

T-post Tom
11-15-2012, 11:22 PM
Kiper will change that analysis more than once between now and the draft. Hopefully, for his sake, he switches to the lead-free 'Dapper Dan' pomade sometime soon.

AussieChiefsFan
11-15-2012, 11:36 PM
idiot

SNR
11-15-2012, 11:49 PM
idiotIs there an authentically Aussie-English dialect word for idiot? Dingobrain or something like that?

Simply Red
11-15-2012, 11:50 PM
just what we need, another high draft pick on the defense and no QB.

that's a badass new avatar.

Sorter
11-16-2012, 12:15 AM
Is there an authentically Aussie-English dialect word for idiot? Dingobrain or something like that?

Dero is the only one I know that comes close to idiot. Not exactly correct though.

AussieChiefsFan
11-16-2012, 12:18 AM
Is there an authentically Aussie-English dialect word for idiot? Dingobrain or something like that?Not one thats used over the word "idiot". Maybe in the country, but not in the city anyway.

SNR
11-16-2012, 12:21 AM
I know the Canadians have "hoser" and the Brits use... well, they use anything that they just kind of have lying around at the moment.

"Cretin" I guess. You see that occasionally in the States, but not as often as you would in Britain.

Sorter
11-16-2012, 12:22 AM
I know the Canadians have "hoser" and the Brits use... well, they use anything that they just kind of have lying around at the moment.

"Cretin" I guess. You see that occasionally in the States, but not as often as you would in Britain.

The Brits prefer a word that starts with C and ends in unt.

AussieChiefsFan
11-16-2012, 12:25 AM
I know the Canadians have "hoser" and the Brits use... well, they use anything that they just kind of have lying around at the moment.

"Cretin" I guess. You see that occasionally in the States, but not as often as you would in Britain.Most people from America believe we all sound like we're from "The Outback". But really 90% of Australians live within 50 kilometres of the coastline. Obvioiusly we do a bit, but not nearly as much as is commonly believed by americans.

AussieChiefsFan
11-16-2012, 12:26 AM
The Brits prefer a word that starts with C and ends in unt.LMAO

MotherfuckerJones
11-16-2012, 02:17 AM
Who the hell Mel Kiper anyways?! Haha do you guys remember that video? Ya take a MLB no 1 stupid! If not a QB I'd go Jarvis jones and take Tyler Wilson via trade up. Never can have too many pass rushers and Hali is gettin older

craneref
11-16-2012, 02:31 AM
I would hope that someone would fall in love with one of the top QB's and gives us a couple of first round picks to move back a bit, we still get one of the top QB's this year and can add another 1st round talent. I personally don't see any of the QB's that would be better than another 1st round QB and another 1st round pick. I wouldn't be totally disappointed with Smith or Barkley

the Talking Can
11-16-2012, 04:13 AM
hey gang,

we need another #1 pick in the front 7 more than a QB....

my strategery is flawess

LB>QB=black retard

Woodchuck
11-16-2012, 06:27 AM
Miller and Te'o have completely different skillsets, Retard

He really made that comparison?

LMAO.


Von Miller is a freaking pass rushing OLB.

That's a HUGE difference from ILB. That's like saying Guard & LT are the same thing. "Well they both play on the O-line"

I mean, if anyone had any doubts that he was mentally handicapped, this should clear that up. ROFL



No it ****ing wasn't. That was expected
Posted via Mobile Device

Can you read?

You guys are ****ing idiots. I never compared the two. I just used Miller as an example of a guy I wished the Broncos did not take. I wish they had taken Gabbert instead because they really needed a QB and I thought he would suck. It has nothing to do with value or position. It has to do with getting a Bronco fan's perspective on who he would rather us take to make life better in Denver. Wouldn't he want us to make the wrong pick instead of the smart one?

Seriously, some of you guys are so dumb that it is hard to carry a conversation with you at all.

BigMeatballDave
11-16-2012, 06:50 AM
Can you read?

You guys are ****ing idiots. I never compared the two. I just used Miller as an example of a guy I wished the Broncos did not take. I wish they had taken Gabbert instead because they really needed a QB and I thought he would suck. It has nothing to do with value or position. It has to do with getting a Bronco fan's perspective on who he would rather us take to make life better in Denver. Wouldn't he want us to make the wrong pick instead of the smart one?

Seriously, some of you guys are so dumb that it is hard to carry a conversation with you at all.

You are the epitome of a complete dumbass.

You are so oblivious to reality, you actually believe others around you are dumb.

Ebolapox
11-16-2012, 08:13 AM
The Brits prefer a word that starts with C and ends in unt.

tosser

durtyrute
11-16-2012, 08:15 AM
The Brits prefer a word that starts with C and ends in unt.

I'd never even heard of that word until I was around 18 and completely shocked when I found out the woman hated. I thought it was funny at first, but realized the hard way that it is not.

JASONSAUTO
11-16-2012, 08:20 AM
Can you read?

You guys are ****ing idiots. I never compared the two. I just used Miller as an example of a guy I wished the Broncos did not take. I wish they had taken Gabbert instead because they really needed a QB and I thought he would suck. It has nothing to do with value or position. It has to do with getting a Bronco fan's perspective on who he would rather us take to make life better in Denver. Wouldn't he want us to make the wrong pick instead of the smart one?

Seriously, some of you guys are so dumb that it is hard to carry a conversation with you at all.

You fucking dolt. You said it was a shocker. Most sensible people expected them to take von.


But please take your "enlightened intelligent" conversation to another site where you can talk to other genious people. We will sure miss you.

I heard smart guys like people like you to suck their cock. You would love the coalition.
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ChiefsCountry
11-16-2012, 08:25 AM
The team that makes sense for Teo is the one on the other side of the state of Missouri.

Woodchuck
11-16-2012, 08:26 AM
You ****ing dolt. You said it was a shocker. Most sensible people expected them to take von.


But please take your "enlightened intelligent" conversation to another site where you can talk to other genious people. We will sure miss you.

I heard smart guys like people like you to suck their cock. You would love the coalition.
Posted via Mobile Device

Never said it was a shocker. It was an "oh shit" moment because they got better. I wanted them to take someone worse. You are stupid and still don't understand. I can't believe I am even responding. Everything you post is a waste of space bud. You have nothing whatsoever to contribute. What you are saying is a flat out lie and all you do is follow me around and bitch because you are an absolute bonafide grade A loser. Now get mad and tell me to go suck a cock. LOL

The team that makes sense for Teo is the one on the other side of the state of Missouri.

They have Laurinitus. That makes no sense.

ChiefRocka
11-16-2012, 08:32 AM
Never said it was a shocker. It was an "oh shit" moment because they got better. I wanted them to take someone worse. You are stupid and still don't understand. I can't believe I am even responding. Everything you post is a waste of space bud. You have nothing whatsoever to contribute. What you are saying is a flat out lie and all you do is follow me around and bitch because you are an absolute bonafide grade A loser. Now get mad and tell me to go suck a cock. LOL



They have Laurinitus. That makes no sense.


http://www.itsworsethanyouthink.co.uk/039/quack.jpg

Reerun_KC
11-16-2012, 08:36 AM
You ****ing dolt. You said it was a shocker. Most sensible people expected them to take von.


But please take your "enlightened intelligent" conversation to another site where you can talk to other genious people. We will sure miss you.

I heard smart guys like people like you to suck their cock. You would love the coalition.
Posted via Mobile Device

Watch out he will bomb your rep page with meaningless rep messages about how you are shitting on threads....

http://cledba.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/facepalm.jpg

htismaqe
11-16-2012, 08:43 AM
You ****ing dolt. You said it was a shocker. Most sensible people expected them to take von.


But please take your "enlightened intelligent" conversation to another site where you can talk to other genious people. We will sure miss you.

I heard smart guys like people like you to suck their cock. You would love the coalition.
Posted via Mobile Device

Dude, he CAME FROM the Coalition.

They ran him off there so he came here.

SNR
11-16-2012, 08:43 AM
I would hope that someone would fall in love with one of the top QB's and gives us a couple of first round picks to move back a bit, we still get one of the top QB's this year and can add another 1st round talent. I personally don't see any of the QB's that would be better than another 1st round QB and another 1st round pick. I wouldn't be totally disappointed with Smith or Barkley

Ten bucks and a bag of doughnuts says all three QBs will be gone if we trade out of the top 5.

No more fucking trades. Do not fucking gamble our shot at a franchise QB away. We have plenty of draft picks this year. A buttload of compensatory picks. NO FUCKING TRADING.

Take the QB, beat off, wipe the semen off the walls, and go back to work.

Reerun_KC
11-16-2012, 08:44 AM
Dude, he CAME FROM the Coalition.

They ran him off there so he came here.

Can we perma ban him here as well?

SNR
11-16-2012, 08:44 AM
Dude, he CAME FROM the Coalition.

They ran him off there so he came here.

Do we know any current coalition members?

How did they run him off? :hmmm:

JASONSAUTO
11-16-2012, 08:45 AM
Dude, he CAME FROM the Coalition.

They ran him off there so he came here.

I know. He fits better there
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JASONSAUTO
11-16-2012, 08:46 AM
Can we perma ban him here as well?

we did. Miserable user too.I think phobia felt bad because he was too stupid to stop trying to post
Posted via Mobile Device

Reerun_KC
11-16-2012, 08:47 AM
we did. Miserable user too.I think phobia felt bad because he was too stupid to stop trying to post
Posted via Mobile Device

:cuss: at Phobia!!!!!

JASONSAUTO
11-16-2012, 08:47 AM
Never said it was a shocker. It was an "oh shit" moment because they got better. I wanted them to take someone worse. You are stupid and still don't understand. I can't believe I am even responding. Everything you post is a waste of space bud. You have nothing whatsoever to contribute. What you are saying is a flat out lie and all you do is follow me around and bitch because you are an absolute bonafide grade A loser. Now get mad and tell me to go suck a cock. LOL



They have Laurinitus. That makes no sense. I've never even gotten mad yet. Go fuck yourself now, bitch.
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ChiefsCountry
11-16-2012, 08:51 AM
Speaking of bannings, what the hell happened to dj's left nut?

Woodchuck
11-16-2012, 08:52 AM
I've never even gotten mad yet. Go **** yourself now, bitch.
Posted via Mobile Device

If it were true you wouldn't address it in your response. Now please stop shitting all over threads.

Also, for the record, I am not banned from the CC. I didn't threaten to sue. I didn't lie about a mult. I've explained this a million times. Stop making shit up people.

I'm not leaving. Get used to me.

SNR
11-16-2012, 08:54 AM
Speaking of bannings, what the hell happened to dj's left nut?

He got banned?

Fuck.

the Talking Can
11-16-2012, 08:55 AM
we did. Miserable user too.I think phobia felt bad because he was too stupid to stop trying to post
Posted via Mobile Device

threatened to sue, was banned, came back under a mult and lied about it

and yet, here he is...the dumbest piece of shit on the internet shitting over every thread...

durtyrute
11-16-2012, 08:55 AM
Now get mad and tell me to go suck a cock.

ROFLROFLROFL

I'm sorry, but that line is fuckin hilarious

JASONSAUTO
11-16-2012, 08:56 AM
I have dealt with mentally disabled people before, you can't get mad at them. They can't help it.

I actually kinda feel sorry for you, your state ordered guardian should take away your computer.
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JASONSAUTO
11-16-2012, 08:56 AM
He got banned?

Fuck.

Whhhhhyyyyyyyyyy?
Posted via Mobile Device

JASONSAUTO
11-16-2012, 08:58 AM
threatened to sue, was banned, came back under a mult and lied about it

and yet, here he is...the dumbest piece of shit on the internet shitting over every thread...
And meaningless repping people for shitting on threads
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Reerun_KC
11-16-2012, 09:01 AM
I'm not leaving. Get used to me.

You threatening the members here?

durtyrute
11-16-2012, 09:06 AM
It's still going on?

Chiefnj2
11-16-2012, 09:15 AM
The fans are more passionate than the players and coaches. They spend less time game planning than CP members do arguing over pointless things.

JASONSAUTO
11-16-2012, 09:23 AM
The fans are more passionate than the players and coaches. They spend less time game planning than CP members do arguing over pointless things.
No such thing as pointless.
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Nightfyre
11-16-2012, 11:45 AM
Seriously, just ban him. It is only in the rarest circumstances that I suggest CP violate its tradition and principles because it's such a slippery slope. But goddammit, now is the time. Ban his dumbass and Knowmo while we're at it.

Sorter
11-16-2012, 11:51 AM
Seriously, just ban him. It is only in the rarest circumstances that I suggest CP violate its tradition and principles because it's such a slippery slope. But goddammit, now is the time. Ban his dumbass and Knowmo while we're at it.

He's banned for a week.

Chief_For_Life58
11-16-2012, 11:53 AM
its a message board. if you dont like what he has to say dont read it..I personally like reading everything everyone has to say. everyone just relax. whats the point of banning someone? they can just go start a new username and keep on spewing poopoo from their mouth ontop the keyboard onto chiefsplanet anyway. everyone takes stuff too seriously here. chiefs suck. obamas president. whats new?

DaneMcCloud
11-16-2012, 11:57 AM
Seriously, some of you guys are so dumb that it is hard to carry a conversation with you at all.

LMAO

Yeah, it's us, not you.

ROFL

ChiefRocka
11-16-2012, 11:59 AM
I have dealt with mentally disabled people before, you can't get mad at them. They can't help it.

I actually kinda feel sorry for you, your state ordered guardian should take away your computer.
Posted via Mobile Device


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Nightfyre
11-16-2012, 12:03 PM
its a message board. if you dont like what he has to say dont read it..I personally like reading everything everyone has to say. everyone just relax. whats the point of banning someone? they can just go start a new username and keep on spewing poopoo from their mouth ontop the keyboard onto chiefsplanet anyway. everyone takes stuff too seriously here. chiefs suck. obamas president. whats new?

STFU Noob.

DeezNutz
11-16-2012, 12:09 PM
threatened to sue, was banned, came back under a mult and lied about it

and yet, here he is...the dumbest piece of shit on the internet* shitting over every thread...

*This assumes that Pioli doesn't have an intraweb.

And we need to know what happened to DJ's Testicle.

BigMeatballDave
11-16-2012, 12:16 PM
I'm not leaving. Get used to me. Enjoy your week off, fuckstick.

LMAO

SNR
11-16-2012, 12:24 PM
So were you guys this concerned about MY whereabouts when I was banned for a few days a couple months ago?

Ehhh?? Ehhhhhh?

Pestilence
11-16-2012, 12:25 PM
So were you guys this concerned about MY whereabouts when I was banned for a few days a couple months ago?

Ehhh?? Ehhhhhh?

I just figured that you were hanging with Copper.

SNR
11-16-2012, 12:28 PM
I just figured that you were hanging with Copper.

Hangin' with Mr. Copper

Chris Meck
11-16-2012, 12:28 PM
If we take a MLB first overall when its painfully clear that our top two needs are:

QB, and:
Another QB

I will finally, after thirty two years, quit being a Chiefs fan.

DeezNutz
11-16-2012, 12:31 PM
So were you guys this concerned about MY whereabouts when I was banned for a few days a couple months ago?

Ehhh?? Ehhhhhh?

Who?

SNR
11-16-2012, 12:31 PM
Photoshoppers:

Can you do a Hangin' With Mr. Copper stillshot thing? I will forever be your bitch if you make one

Pestilence
11-16-2012, 12:40 PM
Photoshoppers:

Can you do a Hangin' With Mr. Copper stillshot thing? I will forever be your bitch if you make one

.

SNR
11-16-2012, 12:43 PM
.

Oh... oh God... ohh... ohhhh... yesss..... it's sooooo good...

Chief Roundup
11-16-2012, 12:45 PM
Enjoy your week off, ****stick.

LMAO

Thank God!!! What did he finally do that got all of US a vacation from him?

Ebolapox
11-16-2012, 12:58 PM
Thank God!!! What did he finally do that got all of US a vacation from him?

filter evasion in another thread.

JASONSAUTO
11-16-2012, 01:00 PM
This is one time I will pat myself on the back guys.

I'll ask for a round of applause for myself.
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durtyrute
11-16-2012, 01:08 PM
You guys will miss him

Sorter
11-16-2012, 01:11 PM
You guys will miss him

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/180qn79k8yfgtgif/original.gif

JASONSAUTO
11-16-2012, 01:12 PM
You guys will miss him

Not one bit.

I was pondering going the way of the fax...
Posted via Mobile Device

durtyrute
11-16-2012, 01:12 PM
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/180qn79k8yfgtgif/original.gif

ROFLROFL

BigMeatballDave
11-16-2012, 01:38 PM
You guys will miss him

LMAO Okay...

durtyrute
11-16-2012, 01:46 PM
As soon as he comes back it'll be like....

Blackchuck: I hate Bowe

Everyone else: FUCK YOU STUPID MUTHAFUCKASUMBITCHPUSSYSMELLINASSTASTINGAIDSHAVINGYOMOMMASASLUTFACESHUTYOURWHOREMOUTHRACISTPUNKASSGO SUCKACOCKANDDIEINAFIRE!!

the Talking Can
11-16-2012, 01:53 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/3132267776_50fe9fe24e.jpg

oldman
11-16-2012, 02:30 PM
Did Mel OD on hair gel? Let me see--replace Belcher or take a chance somebody will be better than Cassel? No lifelines or call a friend needed there.

Dayze
11-16-2012, 02:47 PM
grab him and 1, then trade back up to 2.

Reerun_KC
11-16-2012, 02:59 PM
woodchuck get the boot?

durtyrute
11-16-2012, 03:08 PM
woodchuck get the boot?

Yea, he said fuck to a kid wearing an "I love you" T-shirt, or something like that.

Oh Snap
11-16-2012, 03:33 PM
That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard come from a so called "expert".

Take an ILB on a team that is much better defensively than it is offensively...Great idea Kiper! Way to have your ear to the ground you ****ing goofy ass looking clown!

ILChief
11-16-2012, 03:53 PM
If we had a franchise QB I would love to draft Teo. But we don't. We have a disaster at QB

ChiefsandO'sfan
11-16-2012, 03:58 PM
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Pestilence
11-16-2012, 04:22 PM
I'd JIMP if we drafted a QB and then traded back into the 1st round for Teo.

BigMeatballDave
11-16-2012, 04:35 PM
As soon as he comes back it'll be like....

Blackchuck: I hate Bowe

Everyone else: FUCK YOU STUPID MUTHAFUCKASUMBITCHPUSSYSMELLINASSTASTINGAIDSHAVINGYOMOMMASASLUTFACESHUTYOURWHOREMOUTHRACISTPUNKASSGO SUCKACOCKANDDIEINAFIRE!!

That is what happens here when you post stupid shit.

SNR
11-16-2012, 04:39 PM
I'd JIMP if we drafted a QB and then traded back into the 1st round for Teo.
What kind of a deal would we even be capable of working out? We'd probably have to give up something like next year's 1st plus this year's 2nd and some change to trade up INTO the top of the first round.

I think Te'o would have to drop out of the top 10 for us to work out a deal, and I seriously doubt that would happen.

Detoxing
11-16-2012, 04:46 PM
That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard come from a so called "expert".

Take an ILB on a team that is much better defensively than it is offensively...Great idea Kiper! Way to have your ear to the ground you ****ing goofy ass looking clown!

Kiper pushes the players he is told to push, as does McShay. They're paid by sports agents to push the players that these power agents represent.

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-16-2012, 05:12 PM
Good, now ban him for good.

Chief Roundup
11-16-2012, 05:34 PM
Kiper pushes the players he is told to push, as does McShay. They're paid by sports agents to push the players that these power agents represent.

BS.

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-16-2012, 05:36 PM
BS.

I don't know, I wouldn't discount it.

Chief Roundup
11-16-2012, 05:40 PM
I don't know, I wouldn't discount it.

If they would sell their reputation sure. There is no way that "experts" would sell their opinions like that. They would not be seen as reputable anymore by their peers. Hence they would be out of a job. There is not an agent or player that would be willing to pay enough to have these guys lose their careers.

MahiMike
11-16-2012, 05:46 PM
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4D68hTje6gY?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I like his footwork. Didn't realize he was that shifty in the pocket. Of course Governor Christie is shifty compared to Cassel.

DaneMcCloud
11-16-2012, 08:31 PM
If they would sell their reputation sure. There is no way that "experts" would sell their opinions like that. They would not be seen as reputable anymore by their peers. Hence they would be out of a job. There is not an agent or player that would be willing to pay enough to have these guys lose their careers.

Completely false. Ever heard of Gary Wichard? If not, Google it for proof.

Mel Kiper is self-employed. He only offers his opinion on ESPN. He's not an agent, he's not governed by the NFL - nothing.

If he wants to hype a player because he's close with the agent, there's nothing stopping him, at all.

BossChief
11-16-2012, 08:36 PM
I'd JIMP if we drafted a QB and then traded back into the 1st round for Teo.

How did you feel about Rondo McClain, Aaron Curry and Luke Kuechly?