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notorious
11-15-2012, 02:10 PM
Grade Pioli's drafts.


Cut and paste the list and place your grades next to each pick. Please grade on the curve, meaning you need to take into account where they were drafted along with production.

Example: 1. Tyson Jackson F-



2012

1. Dontari Poe
2. Jeff Allen
3. Donald Stephenson
4. Devon Wylie
5. DeQuan Menzie
6. Cyrus Gray
7. Jerome Long
7. Junior Hemingway


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin
2. Rodney Hudson
3. Justin Houston
3. Allen Bailey
4. Jalil Brown
5. Ricky Stanzi
5. Gabe Miller
6. Jerrell Powe
7. Shane Bannon

2010

1 Eric Berry
2 Dexter McCluster
2 Javier Arenas
3 Jon Asamoah
3 Tony Moeaki
5 Kendrick Lewis
5 Cameron Sheffield

2009

1 Tyson Jackson
2. Fuck You Pioli
3 Alex Magee
4 Donald Washington
5 Colin Brown
6 Quinten Lawrence
7 Javarris Williams
7 Jake O'Connell
7 Ryan Succop


It will be nice to destroy Pioli's supposed "strength" when it comes to the draft piece by piece.

notorious
11-15-2012, 02:16 PM
2012

1. Dontari Poe
2. Jeff Allen
3. Donald Stephenson
4. Devon Wylie
5. DeQuan Menzie All of these grades are incomplete
6. Cyrus Gray
7. Jerome Long
7. Junior Hemingway


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin F
2. Rodney Hudson ?
3. Justin Houston A
3. Allen Bailey D-
4. Jalil Brown F
5. Ricky Stanzi F
5. Gabe Miller F
6. Jerrell Powe F
7. Shane Bannon F

2010

1 Eric Berry C
2 Dexter McCluster C
2 Javier Arenas C
3 Jon Asamoah C
3 Tony Moeaki D-
5 Kendrick Lewis F
5 Cameron Sheffield F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson F-
2. **** You Pioli F-
3 Alex Magee F
4 Donald Washington F
5 Colin Brown F
6 Quinten Lawrence F
7 Javarris Williams F
7 Jake O'Connell F
7 Ryan Succop D


Final Grade : F (For Fuck You Pioli)

Pestilence
11-15-2012, 02:20 PM
How is Succop an A?

notorious
11-15-2012, 02:21 PM
How is Succop an A?

Because I am retarded.

Woodchuck
11-15-2012, 02:23 PM
People have funny expectations about drafts. I'll leave it at that.

L.A. Chieffan
11-15-2012, 02:24 PM
Lewis is a C
Asamoah is a B-
everything else pretty much...

Detoxing
11-15-2012, 02:25 PM
Lol @ this thread.

Everyone is going to give almost every pick an F.

Truth is somewhere in the middle.

KC Tattoo
11-15-2012, 02:26 PM
Jerrell Powe needs to play more. I think he can be better than Poe if he was treated the same in getting practice reps and game reps.

Bump
11-15-2012, 02:27 PM
2012

1. Dontari Poe - B
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - D-
4. Devon Wylie - F
5. DeQuan Menzie - F
6. Cyrus Gray - D
7. Jerome Long - F
7. Junior Hemingway - F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - F
2. Rodney Hudson - C
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - C
4. Jalil Brown - C
5. Ricky Stanzi - F
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - C
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B
2 Dexter McCluster - D+
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B+
3 Tony Moeaki - D
5 Kendrick Lewis - C+
5 Cameron Sheffield - F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F
2. **** You Pioli - F
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - B

17 F's
5 D's
6 C's
4 B's
1 A

notorious
11-15-2012, 02:27 PM
Lol @ this thread.

Everyone is going to give almost every pick an F.

Truth is somewhere in the middle.

1-8 dicates nearly all of them SHOULD have F's.


I believe that a good coaching staff could flip a lot of those F's into C's and B's.

theelusiveeightrop
11-15-2012, 02:28 PM
Lotta work to give Pioli an F.

L.A. Chieffan
11-15-2012, 02:28 PM
Lol @ this thread.

Everyone is going to give almost every pick an F.

Truth is somewhere in the middle.

Pioli really has been that bad.

The only "A" is a complete fluke.

Buckweath
11-15-2012, 02:28 PM
People have funny expectations about drafts. I'll leave it at that.

I agree.

I love the talent on this team but with Cassell and Crennel as HC, just those two kill that team.

notorious
11-15-2012, 02:29 PM
Lotta work to give Pioli an F.

I know, I am bored.

I should know better than to get work done ahead of schedule.

Detoxing
11-15-2012, 02:30 PM
1-8 dicates nearly all of them SHOULD have F's.


I believe that a good coaching staff could flip a lot of those F's into C's and B's.

That's an indictment on the coaching, not the picks.

Sorter
11-15-2012, 02:53 PM
2012

1. Dontari Poe - B
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - F
4. Devon Wylie - D
5. DeQuan Menzie - INC
6. Cyrus Gray - C
7. Jerome Long - F
7. Junior Hemingway - F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - F
2. Rodney Hudson - C
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - C
4. Jalil Brown - C
5. Ricky Stanzi - F
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - C
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B
2 Dexter McCluster - F
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - D
5 Kendrick Lewis - C
5 Cameron Sheffield - D

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F
2. Cassel - F
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - B

CoMoChief
11-15-2012, 03:04 PM
That 2009 draft was probably the worst in team history.

2010 (Pioli's best draft) only gave him a B for it.

2011 is a C-

all the others pretty much suck

BigMeatballDave
11-15-2012, 03:17 PM
2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin F
2. Rodney Hudson I
3. Justin Houston C
3. Allen Bailey F
4. Jalil Brown F
5. Ricky Stanzi I
5. Gabe Miller F
6. Jerrell Powe D
7. Shane Bannon F

2010

1 Eric Berry C
2 Dexter McCluster D
2 Javier Arenas D
3 Jon Asamoah C
3 Tony Moeaki D
5 Kendrick Lewis D
5 Cameron Sheffield F

BoneKrusher
11-15-2012, 03:22 PM
2012

1. Dontari Poe - C
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - D-
4. Devon Wylie - F
5. DeQuan Menzie - F
6. Cyrus Gray - D
7. Jerome Long - F
7. Junior Hemingway - F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - F
2. Rodney Hudson - D
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - B
4. Jalil Brown - C
5. Ricky Stanzi - F
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - B
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B
2 Dexter McCluster - C+
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - C
5 Kendrick Lewis - C+
5 Cameron Sheffield - F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - B


The Best Player Pioli's drafted so far is Houston.

BoneKrusher
11-15-2012, 03:27 PM
BTW, i gave the 40 year old rookie (Cassel) in 2009 an F as well, Thanks a lot Pissoli.

John_Wayne
11-15-2012, 03:27 PM
2012

1. Dontari Poe - B
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - C
4. Devon Wylie - C
5. DeQuan Menzie - C
6. Cyrus Gray - C
7. Jerome Long - D
7. Junior Hemingway - D


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - D
2. Rodney Hudson - B
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - C+
4. Jalil Brown - C
5. Ricky Stanzi - D-
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - D+
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - A-
2 Dexter McCluster - B-
2 Javier Arenas - C+
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - B
5 Kendrick Lewis - B
5 Cameron Sheffield - C

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - D-
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - C-
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - D-
7 Jake O'Connell - D
7 Ryan Succop - B+

bobbything
11-15-2012, 03:28 PM
I think it's important to grade relative to their draft spot. For instance, more weight should be given to a player drafted high that underperforms. Same with a player drafted low that overachieves relative to his position.

I'm not gonna do 2012. Too early to tell...

2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin D- (I don't know if he sucks or if Cassel refuses to look his way)
2. Rodney Hudson C (decidedly average)
3. Justin Houston B+ (looking pretty good thus far)
3. Allen Bailey D+ (meh)
4. Jalil Brown C (been okay considering he was a 4th rounder)
5. Ricky Stanzi F (what's the point?)
5. Gabe Miller F (who?)
6. Jerrell Powe C- (not awful)
7. Shane Bannon F (nope)

2010

1 Eric Berry C- (had one good year, got injured, having sub-par sophomore year)
2 Dexter McCluster D- (either he sucks or the coaching staff is awful)
2 Javier Arenas D (bad fulltime CB, not an atrocious nickel, not great on returns)
3 Jon Asamoah B (solid lineman for a 3rd rounder)
3 Tony Moeaki C (see Eric Berry)
5 Kendrick Lewis C (having a bad year but doesn't look to be awful overall)
5 Cameron Sheffield F (facepalm)

2009

1 Tyson Jackson F (there is no bigger failure than this pick right here)
2. Cassel D- (only thing that didn't make this an F was his one decent season)
3 Alex Magee F (bad pick)
4 Donald Washington F (furk)
5 Colin Brown F (again, furk)
6 Quinten Lawrence F (poop)
7 Javarris Williams F (peanut)
7 Jake O'Connell D (for a 7th rounder...well, whatever)
7 Ryan Succop B+ (kickers are kind of a dime a dozen, but he's been solid)

If you were to assign a GPA, it would grade out to a 1.08 on a 4.0 scale.

Pitiful.

BigMeatballDave
11-15-2012, 03:30 PM
I see Houston is being overrated a bit.

Maybe a B. Way too soon to give him an A at this point.

BoneKrusher
11-15-2012, 03:32 PM
I see Houston is being overrated a bit.

Maybe a B. Way too soon to give him an A at this point.

Probably but he's the only impact player from Pioli's drafts combined IMO.

chiefzilla1501
11-15-2012, 03:47 PM
Yeah, people are a little rough. You shouldn't expect to draft pro bowlers in the late rounds


2012

1. Dontari Poe - A (I know... I know....)
2. Jeff Allen - C (Not a bad pick. But you can't pass on a QB)
3. Donald Stephenson - Wait and see
4. Devon Wylie - Wait and see
5. DeQuan Menzie - C-
6. Cyrus Gray - A
7. Jerome Long - D
7. Junior Hemingway - Wait and see


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - C+
2. Rodney Hudson - B
3. Justin Houston - A+
3. Allen Bailey - B
4. Jalil Brown - C+
5. Ricky Stanzi - A-
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - A
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B+
2 Dexter McCluster - C+ (still a wait and see for me)
2 Javier Arenas - B-
3 Jon Asamoah - A-
3 Tony Moeaki - B
5 Kendrick Lewis - A- (for a 5th rounder, he's a great pick)
5 Cameron Sheffield - D

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - C+
2. **** You Pioli - Z+
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - D
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - D
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - B

Grade Pioli's drafts.


Cut and paste the list and place your grades next to each pick. Please grade on the curve, meaning you need to take into account where they were drafted along with production.

Example: 1. Tyson Jackson F-


It will be nice to destroy Pioli's supposed "strength" when it comes to the draft piece by piece.

BoneKrusher
11-15-2012, 03:56 PM
Yeah, people are a little rough. You shouldn't expect to draft pro bowlers in the late rounds




i based Pioli's grade on these fuckups:
A second rounder for Cassole,

TJ pick was a terrible pick

Eric Berry looks like shit compared to Earl Thomas

and Poe was a terrible choice.

jd1020
11-15-2012, 03:58 PM
Yeah, people are a little rough. You shouldn't expect to draft pro bowlers in the late rounds

5. Ricky Stanzi - A-

There it is...

2nd year player with like 5 ACTIVE games under his belt.

What a fucking waste... and he gets an A-!

chiefzilla1501
11-15-2012, 04:00 PM
i based Pioli's grade on these ****ups:
A second rounder for Cassole,

TJ pick was a terrible pick

Eric Berry looks like shit compared to Earl Thomas

and Poe was a terrible choice.

I should have bumped TJ down to a D. He hasn't been a disaster, but that's not nearly good enough for a 3rd pick.

I don't care about the Berry choice. We all wanted it and I think hindsight is 20/20 if we criticize the pick now. I still think he can improve with better coaching.

Poe was a terrific pick, in my opinion. It's the gamble Pioli has refused to make. But too little too late. He plays a position of high positional value. And he has a very unique skill set. That's better than all the safe picks Pioli has continued to make. With better coaching, Poe has the upside to be a Vince Wilfork type guy, which I'd take in an absolute heartbeat.

Chocolate Hog
11-15-2012, 04:00 PM
2012

1. Dontari Poe - C
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - D
4. Devon Wylie - D
5. DeQuan Menzie - D
6. Cyrus Gray - D
7. Jerome Long - F
7. Junior Hemingway - F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - F
2. Rodney Hudson - C
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - D
4. Jalil Brown - D
5. Ricky Stanzi - F
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - C
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B
2 Dexter McCluster - C
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - C
5 Kendrick Lewis - C
5 Cameron Sheffield - D

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - D
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - D
7 Ryan Succop - C

chiefzilla1501
11-15-2012, 04:01 PM
There it is...

2nd year player with like 5 ACTIVE games under his belt.

What a ****ing waste... and he gets an A-!

He was a good project QB. Taking him in the 5th was a very good value.

jd1020
11-15-2012, 04:02 PM
He was a good project QB. Taking him in the 5th was a very good value.

He was possibly a good project 2 years ago... He's not a project anymore. He's useless... get your head out of the sand.

BoneKrusher
11-15-2012, 04:02 PM
I don't care about the Berry choice. We all wanted it and I think hindsight is 20/20 if we criticize the pick now. I still think he can improve with better coaching.



i wanted Earl Thomas during that draft but hey i like Texas.

Urc Burry
11-15-2012, 04:04 PM
Some of you guys are rough.. Like Eric Berry for instance, I still give that an A.. He's been disappointing this year, but he seems to of improved big time the last couple games. Hope we get a d-coordinator that plays him like he should be

New World Order
11-15-2012, 04:06 PM
2012

1. Dontari Poe - C
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - D
4. Devon Wylie - D
5. DeQuan Menzie - D
6. Cyrus Gray - D
7. Jerome Long - F
7. Junior Hemingway - F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - F
2. Rodney Hudson - C
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - C
4. Jalil Brown - D
5. Ricky Stanzi - F
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - C
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B
2 Dexter McCluster - C+
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - C
5 Kendrick Lewis - C+
5 Cameron Sheffield - D-

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F
2. Matt Cassel- F
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - B


2009 has to be the worst draft I have ever seen.

BoneKrusher
11-15-2012, 04:06 PM
Some of you guys are rough.. Like Eric Berry for instance, I still give that an A.. He's been disappointing this year, but he seems to of improved big time the last couple games. Hope we get a d-coordinator that plays him like he should be

Berry's excellent as a run defender but he looks like Halli Berry in pass coverage.

jd1020
11-15-2012, 04:13 PM
A = homerun, B = above average starter, C = meh, average starter/borderline backup, D = backup, F = why the **** are you on the team?, I = too early/unfair to grade

2012 - I

2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - I (can't give a guy a grade who relies on an F and doesn't look his way.)
2. Rodney Hudson - B
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - D
4. Jalil Brown - F
5. Ricky Stanzi - F
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - D
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B
2 Dexter McCluster - C
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - C
5 Kendrick Lewis - C
5 Cameron Sheffield - F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F
2. **** You Pioli - F
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - B

chiefzilla1501
11-15-2012, 04:31 PM
He was possibly a good project 2 years ago... He's not a project anymore. He's useless... get your head out of the sand.

My head isn't in the sand. I have no delusions about Stanzi.

I am not going to argue against the Chiefs taking a chance at a QB, especially one who fell below where he probably should have. The 5th round was a terrific value for Stanzi. You expect that a 5th round QB is going to have high bust potential. It was a great pick, even if it didn't pan out (and we're assuming it didn't pan out, by the way, based on some preseason struggles).

jd1020
11-15-2012, 04:33 PM
My head isn't in the sand. I have no delusions about Stanzi.

Clearly...

crossbow
11-15-2012, 04:34 PM
2012

1. Dontari Poe - D (good player but needed a QB here)
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - C
4. Devon Wylie - F (Reach)
5. DeQuan Menzie - D
6. Cyrus Gray - D
7. Jerome Long - F
7. Junior Hemingway - F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - C
2. Rodney Hudson - A
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - D
4. Jalil Brown - C
5. Ricky Stanzi - B Good value
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - B
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - A
2 Dexter McCluster - F
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - C
5 Kendrick Lewis - B
5 Cameron Sheffield - F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F
2. **** You Pioli
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - A

Pioli waisted our entire 2009 draft. **** you Pioli.

jaa1025
11-15-2012, 04:37 PM
2012 INCOMPLETE--But so far, I only like Poe.

1. Dontari Poe
2. Jeff Allen
3. Donald Stephenson
4. Devon Wylie
5. DeQuan Menzie
6. Cyrus Gray
7. Jerome Long
7. Junior Hemingway


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin -F, but hard to evaluate with crapastic QB
2. Rodney Hudson -D
3. Justin Houston -A+, but they are using him wrong. Needs to rush passer more
3. Allen Bailey -A. The best DE on the roster with two former top 5 picks.
4. Jalil Brown - C-
5. Ricky Stanzi - F. Couldn't beat out Palko last year. Can't beat out Cassel and Quinn this year
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - B. In his limited time this year I have been impressed. I think he could be a starter if it wasn't for Poe.
7. Shane Bannon -F

2010

1 Eric Berry -B- Struggled for handful of games. Then became probowl level SS. Injured for year on cheap shot. REALLY struggled this year but over the last 3 games he's been very good.
2 Dexter McCluster -F-----. Hate him. Hated the pick. Hate the player now. Terrible drop rate. Caused a few INT's with his propensity to tip the ball up to the DB's
2 Javier Arenas -D. Just not that good. Terrible spot to draft a NOT THAT GOOD DB that can't take the ball to the house as a returner.
3 Jon Asamoah -C
3 Tony Moeaki -C. Draft an injury prone TE in college and what do you expect. Very good 1st year. Injured second. Bad 3rd year.
5 Kendrick Lewis - D. I'm sorry to the Kendrick Lewis fans but he's a terrible tackler and he makes some plays on the ball but he gives up a lot too. Injury prone.
5 Cameron Sheffield -F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F----- Worst 1st round pick I've seen in a long time for the Chiefs
2 Cassel. F-----Worst QB in the league.
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington F
5 Colin Brown F
6 Quinten Lawrence F
7 Javarris Williams F
7 Jake O'Connell F
7 Ryan Succop C. I like him. Think he's a good kicker. But should have never had to draft a kicker here if you'd resign your quality players.


It will be nice to destroy Pioli's supposed "strength" when it comes to the draft piece by piece.[/QUOTE]

crossbow
11-15-2012, 04:37 PM
My head isn't in the sand. I have no delusions about Stanzi.

I am not going to argue against the Chiefs taking a chance at a QB, especially one who fell below where he probably should have. The 5th round was a terrific value for Stanzi. You expect that a 5th round QB is going to have high bust potential. It was a great pick, even if it didn't pan out (and we're assuming it didn't pan out, by the way, based on some preseason struggles).

Agreed. Not Stanzi's fault that even Joe Montana would have been benched so that Cassel would get all of the work regardless of how bad he was. **** You Pioli.

the Talking Can
11-15-2012, 04:39 PM
2009 is one of the worst draft's in nfl history

to have the 3rd pick in every round and draft F+++ with every single fucking pick (except for the last one) is mind destroying...

jd1020
11-15-2012, 04:40 PM
Agreed. Not Stanzi's fault that even Joe Montana would have been benched so that Cassel would get all of the work regardless of how bad he was. **** You Pioli.

Stanzi is so good that Pioli cant even force one of his drafted Iowa players into a ****ing backup role... with dogshit at the position.

the Talking Can
11-15-2012, 04:43 PM
Agreed. Not Stanzi's fault that even Joe Montana would have been benched so that Cassel would get all of the work regardless of how bad he was. **** You Pioli.

stanzi has failed to beat out palko and quinn...he isn't even dressing for games now

he sucks fat cock

jd1020
11-15-2012, 04:46 PM
stanzi has failed to beat out palko and quinn...he isn't even dressing for games now

he sucks fat cock

He's probably lucky Tanney injured himself and was put on IR. Clipboard duties next season is probably going to be Stanzi vs Tanney. My money's on Tanney.

notorious
11-15-2012, 04:59 PM
JFC, I will never get over how fucking horrific the 2009 draft was.


I don't know if a person could do that bad if they were trying to screw up.

WV
11-15-2012, 05:04 PM
2012

1. Dontari Poe - B
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - D-
4. Devon Wylie - F
5. DeQuan Menzie - F
6. Cyrus Gray - D
7. Jerome Long - F
7. Junior Hemingway - F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - F
2. Rodney Hudson - C
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - C
4. Jalil Brown - C
5. Ricky Stanzi - F
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - C
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B
2 Dexter McCluster - D+
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B+
3 Tony Moeaki - D
5 Kendrick Lewis - C+
5 Cameron Sheffield - F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F
2. **** You Pioli - F
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - B

17 F's
5 D's
6 C's
4 B's
1 A

This is a pretty realistic take. I'd give Moeaki a C and maybe Arenas too, but other than that pretty spot on.

WV
11-15-2012, 05:05 PM
JFC, I will never get over how fucking horrific the 2009 draft was.


I don't know if a person could do that bad if they were trying to screw up.

Pretty much, when Mr. Irrelevant is the best person from your entire draft there are serious issues.

hometeam
11-15-2012, 05:25 PM
2012

1. Dontari Poe C
2. Jeff Allen D
3. Donald Stephenson D
4. Devon Wylie D
5. DeQuan Menzie F
6. Cyrus Gray D
7. Jerome Long F
7. Junior Hemingway F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin D
2. Rodney Hudson C
3. Justin Houston A
3. Allen Bailey C-
4. Jalil Brown C-
5. Ricky Stanzi F
5. Gabe Miller F
6. Jerrell Powe B
7. Shane Bannon F

2010

1 Eric Berry B-
2 Dexter McCluster F
2 Javier Arenas C-
3 Jon Asamoah B
3 Tony Moeaki D-
5 Kendrick Lewis C+
5 Cameron Sheffield F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson F
2. **** You Pioli LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
3 Alex Magee F
4 Donald Washington F
5 Colin Brown F
6 Quinten Lawrence F
7 Javarris Williams F
7 Jake O'Connell F
7 Ryan Succop B+

DeezNutz
11-15-2012, 06:16 PM
Houston.

Berry is marginal.

Everyone else is a complete bag of fucking shit, and, collectively, they more than justify Pioli's dismissal, assuming Clark is done watching soccer.

mcaj22
11-15-2012, 06:18 PM
im starting to think Baldwin is a worse first round pick than Jackson all things considered. And that is sad

Count Zarth
11-15-2012, 06:21 PM
You're just being a hater if you don't give the Asamoah pick an A.

He's a good starter at RG. From the third round. Great pick.

Chiefnj2
11-15-2012, 06:21 PM
I can't believe all of the idiots giving a "B" grade or lower to Eric Berry.

Urc Burry
11-15-2012, 06:22 PM
im starting to think Baldwin is a worse first round pick than Jackson all things considered. And that is sad

I'm giving Baldwin one more year.. Some WR's take a while to develop..D Thomas for instance.

Count Zarth
11-15-2012, 06:23 PM
The Jeff Allen pick is in no way anything but an F at this point. He is disgusting.

DeezNutz
11-15-2012, 06:27 PM
I can't believe all of the idiots giving a "B" grade or lower to Eric Berry.

He's an "A"? Based on what? I agree that poor luck on negatively affected this pick, which is unfortunate, but his production has certainly been no higher than a "B," which would be generous.

TEX
11-15-2012, 07:21 PM
Damn, no wonder why this team is shit

petegz28
11-15-2012, 08:32 PM
2012

1. Dontari Poe B
2. Jeff Allen B-
3. Donald Stephenson C
4. Devon Wylie C
5. DeQuan Menzie Inc
6. Cyrus Gray Inc
7. Jerome Long Who?
7. Junior Hemingway Who?


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin C
2. Rodney Hudson C
3. Justin Houston A
3. Allen Bailey B
4. Jalil Brown C-
5. Ricky Stanzi F
5. Gabe Miller Who?
6. Jerrell Powe C+
7. Shane Bannon F

2010

1 Eric Berry B+
2 Dexter McCluster C+
2 Javier Arenas C+
3 Jon Asamoah B+
3 Tony Moeaki B-
5 Kendrick Lewis C
5 Cameron Sheffield F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson F-
2. **** You Pioli FFFF----
3 Alex Magee Inc
4 Donald Washington C-
5 Colin Brown F
6 Quinten Lawrence Who?
7 Javarris Williams Who?
7 Jake O'Connell D
7 Ryan Succop C

Count Zarth
11-15-2012, 08:34 PM
How the FUCK is Donald Washington anything but an F?

He's not even on the roster.

petegz28
11-15-2012, 08:35 PM
You're just being a hater if you don't give the Asamoah pick an A.

He's a good starter at RG. From the third round. Great pick.

I gave him a B+