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La literatura
11-25-2012, 01:12 PM
Okay, I'm looking at the following desktop:

Asus CM1740-US-2AD (http://shop.amd.com/us/All/Detail/Desktop/CM1740-US-2AD#Reviews).

Details:
Processor: AMD Quad-Core A8-Series APU for Desktops
RAM: 8GB
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD 6550D

I have one requirement: It must play the upcoming SimCity, which requires:
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4000+ or better or Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 2.0GHz or better
RAM: 2GB
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 2x00 or better* . . . nVidia 7800 or better* . . . Intel Series 4 integrated graphics or better*

Am I good to go?

La literatura
11-25-2012, 01:27 PM
This CyberPower PC looks like a strong possibility, too: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/CyberPowerPC---Gamer-Ultra-Desktop---8GB-Memory---1TB-Hard-Drive/6897999.p?skuId=6897999&productCategoryId=pcmcat212600050008&id=1218811215113

La literatura
11-25-2012, 01:30 PM
One more possibility: http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desktops/HP-Pavilion/C1T74AV?HP-Pavilion-p7-1420t-Desktop-PC

KChiefer
11-25-2012, 01:33 PM
$520 is overpriced IMO, although I haven't looked at whole pc prices for a long time.

getting a solid state hard drive for your OS(and a separate cheaper hd for storage) is the thing to do these days.

The graphics are integrated, which is ok if you only play sim city. If you go integrated, it's nice to be sure your motherboard has a PCI-E expansion slot so you can upgrade if you want to play newer/higher requirement games.

La literatura
11-25-2012, 01:37 PM
$520 is overpriced IMO, although I haven't looked at whole pc prices for a long time.

In about an hour, it will go on lightning deal on amazon.

I'd really prefer non-integrated graphic cards, just because I don't want to deal with putting in a new motherboard. I'm not sure how hard that is, though.

loochy
11-26-2012, 08:37 AM
In about an hour, it will go on lightning deal on amazon.

I'd really prefer non-integrated graphic cards, just because I don't want to deal with putting in a new motherboard. I'm not sure how hard that is, though.

not hard.

you unplug everything, unscrew the mounts, put in the new board, plug everything back in, reboot and set bios settings, done

htismaqe
11-26-2012, 08:48 AM
not hard.

you unplug everything, unscrew the mounts, put in the new board, plug everything back in, reboot and set bios settings, done

Provided that everything is compatible, yes. It's really not THAT easy to retrofit a pre-built PC. It's not HARD, but it's not as simple as you make it sound.

loochy
11-26-2012, 09:04 AM
Provided that everything is compatible, yes. It's really not THAT easy to retrofit a pre-built PC. It's not HARD, but it's not as simple as you make it sound.

and yeah, I ignored the fact that you need to driver install/updates and an OS reinstall isnt a bad idea either.

i was talking from a hardware installation perspective.

Dave Lane
11-26-2012, 09:12 AM
This seems like way better deal and if you are in KC you can just go pick it up

http://microcenter.com/product/403322/CM1831-US-2AA_Desktop_Computer

QuikSsurfer
11-26-2012, 09:13 AM
and yeah, I ignored the fact that you need to driver install/updates and an OS reinstall isnt a bad idea either.

i was talking from a hardware installation perspective.

I believe he meant compatibility to be more form factor rather than driver updates and a OS install... Socket type, accepted memory, and general dimensions of new motherboard MUST be known before just slapping a new one in there.

htismaqe
11-26-2012, 09:13 AM
I believe he meant compatibility to be more form factor rather than driver updates and a OS install... Socket type, accepted memory, and general dimensions of new motherboard MUST be known before just slapping a new one in there.

Yeah, this.

La literatura
11-26-2012, 09:16 AM
Okay, I'm getting this: http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15r-5520/pd?oc=fncwl26h&model_id=inspiron-15r-5520

For about $450.

htismaqe
11-26-2012, 09:25 AM
Okay, I'm getting this: http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15r-5520/pd?oc=fncwl26h&model_id=inspiron-15r-5520

For about $450.

I hate to be Debbie Downer but I've had a half dozen Dell laptops at various jobs as well as being a Team Leader for an ops group that oversaw a corporate shift from IBM to Dell laptops.

They're junk.

I've used Toshiba, Dell, HP, IBM, Lenovo, and Acer laptops. Dell is far and away the worst of the bunch and it's not even close.

La literatura
11-26-2012, 09:30 AM
I hate to be Debbie Downer but I've had a half dozen Dell laptops at various jobs as well as being a Team Leader for an ops group that oversaw a corporate shift from IBM to Dell laptops.

They're junk.

I've used Toshiba, Dell, HP, IBM, Lenovo, and Acer laptops. Dell is far and away the worst of the bunch and it's not even close.

Damn you!

I've never had a Dell myself, but the reviews on this make it sound sturdier than the average Dell.

htismaqe
11-26-2012, 09:35 AM
Damn you!

I've never had a Dell myself, but the reviews on this make it sound sturdier than the average Dell.

I've had ones that were built sturdier than others (still have an Inspiron 8000 I bought in 2000). But I've never had a Dell laptop that didn't have some kind of integrated circuitry failure - CPU, sound card, video, Bluetooth, etc. - stuff that isn't just hand-swappable.

La literatura
11-26-2012, 09:38 AM
So, basically something dies out pretty quickly? I'm only getting a 1 yr warranty, but should I extend that?

QuikSsurfer
11-26-2012, 09:44 AM
So, basically something dies out pretty quickly? I'm only getting a 1 yr warranty, but should I extend that?

Yep.

htismaqe
11-26-2012, 09:45 AM
So, basically something dies out pretty quickly? I'm only getting a 1 yr warranty, but should I extend that?

I would.

La literatura
11-26-2012, 09:47 AM
$90/2 yr warranty for a $450 purchase. I need someone to third the motion.

QuikSsurfer
11-26-2012, 09:55 AM
$90/2 yr warranty for a $450 purchase. I need someone to third the motion.

Fuck it.. I take mine back.

La literatura
11-26-2012, 09:57 AM
**** it.. I take mine back.

Have you had problems with Dell laptops?

Just doing a google search, it looks like overheating has been reported.

QuikSsurfer
11-26-2012, 10:01 AM
Have you had problems with Dell laptops?

Just doing a google search, it looks like overheating has been reported.

I have had issues with Dell, HP, Compaq, Acer and Gateway. It's nearly impossible to avoid all problems that could arise... That's why getting a good warranty is and should be very important.
I'll say that I haven't had a single issue (hardware wise) from Asus or Lenovo.

htismaqe
11-26-2012, 10:08 AM
Have you had problems with Dell laptops?

Just doing a google search, it looks like overheating has been reported.

That's a common problem with laptops in general.

I've had screens fail on HP laptops and I've had a few HDDs fail on brand new Acers.

But none of them have had the number of integrated peripheral (aka "need to replace the motherboard") failures as I've had with Dells. I've seen more Dell laptop motherboards replaced than all of the other brands combined.