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Direckshun
12-04-2012, 05:50 PM
It often is suggested that the losing party will moderate a bit more after an election loss across the White House, the Senate and (in popular vote (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=9105489)) the House. I mean, when you've lost the popular vote for President 5 out of the last 6 elections, find a way to move to the center, amiright?

Nope, I'm not. Republicans are reportedly more worried about their right flanks and primary challenges in 2014 thna they are the Presidency in 2016.

And when these are your primary voters, how is sanity even an option:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/12/republicans-not-handling-election-results-well.html

Republicans not handling election results well
December 04, 2012

PPP's first post election national poll finds that Republicans are taking the results pretty hard...and also declining in numbers.

49% of GOP voters nationally say they think that ACORN stole the election for President Obama. We found that 52% of Republicans thought that ACORN stole the 2008 election for Obama, so this is a modest decline, but perhaps smaller than might have been expected given that ACORN doesn't exist anymore.

Some GOP voters are so unhappy with the outcome that they no longer care to be a part of the United States. 25% of Republicans say they would like their state to secede from the union compared to 56% who want to stay and 19% who aren't sure.

One reason that such a high percentage of Republicans are holding what could be seen as extreme views is that their numbers are declining. Our final poll before the election, which hit the final outcome almost on the head, found 39% of voters identifying themselves as Democrats and 37% as Republicans. Since the election we've seen a 5 point increase in Democratic identification to 44%, and a 5 point decrease in Republican identification to 32%.

Other notes from our national poll:

-Grover Norquist is largely unknown nationally, and among voters who are familiar with him he is generally disliked. Only 15% have a favorable opinion of him to 37% with a negative one, with 48% not holding an opinion one way or the other. Even among Republicans just 18% see him positively, while 23% have an unfavorable view. Only 23% of voters think it's important for politicians to follow Norquist's tax pledge to 39% who think it's not important and 38% who don't have an opinion.

-President Obama's received a modest post election bump in his approval rating. 50% of voters now approve of him to 47% who disapprove, up a net 4 points from 48/49 on our final post election poll. Voters trust Obama over Congressional Republicans on the issue of Libya by a 48/45 margin, suggesting that their attacks on the issue aren't getting much traction.

-As much of an obsession as Bowles/Simpson can be for the DC pundit class, most Americans don't have an opinion about it. 23% support it, 16% oppose it, and 60% say they don't have a take one way or the other.

The 39% of Americans with an opinion about Bowles/Simpson is only slightly higher than the 25% with one about Panetta/Burns, a mythical Clinton Chief of Staff/former western Republican Senator combo we conceived of to test how many people would say they had an opinion even about something that doesn't exist.

Bowles/Simpson does have bipartisan support from the small swath of Americans with an opinion about it. Republicans support it 26/18, Democrats favor it 21/14, and independents are for it by a 24/18 margin. Panetta/Burns doesn't fare as well with 8% support and 17% opposition.

-David Petraeus has a 44/30 favorability rating nationally and is seen much more favorably by Democrats (47/25) at this point than Republicans (38/36).

Fat Elvis
12-04-2012, 05:57 PM
I knew a guy who blew his brains out on election night because Obama won.

Seriously.

I think guys like him comprise the Republican base.

La literatura
12-04-2012, 06:12 PM
That is pretty out of touch. By now we know that it was the New Black Panthers that stole it.

listopencil
12-04-2012, 06:18 PM
It was me. I stole the election. I just want to watch the world burn.

Direckshun
12-04-2012, 06:23 PM
It was me. I stole the election. I just want to watch the world burn.

Alright guys: let's get this bastard.

Burn the forest down.

listopencil
12-04-2012, 06:27 PM
Alright guys: let's get this bastard.

Burn the forest down.

Hah. Come and get me.

BigRedChief
12-04-2012, 08:49 PM
when you've lost the popular vote for President 5 out of the last 6 elections, find a way to move to the center, amiright?

49% of GOP voters nationally say they think that ACORN stole the election for President Obama.

25% of Republicans say they would like their state to secede from the union compared to 56% who want to stay and 19% who aren't sure.

-Grover Norquist is largely unknown nationally, and among voters who are familiar with him he is generally disliked. . Even among Republicans just 18% see him positively, while 23% have an unfavorable view. Only 23% of voters think it's important for politicians to follow Norquist's tax pledge
The Republicans who think they are okay and it was all Romney's fault just like it was all McCain's fault are in that bubble permanently.

bevischief
12-05-2012, 11:49 AM
It was those damn electronic voting machines that have stolen the last 3 elections.