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Dicky McElephant
12-05-2012, 03:55 PM
I spend the entire week before the games.....second guessing all of my choices.

Do I start Matt Ryan vs. the Panthers? Or do I start Kaepernick against the Dolphins?

Do I start Charles because he gets the ball at least 20 times a game? Or do I start Ridley who will get the opportunity for TDs?

Do I start the Browns defense vs. the Chiefs? Or do I start the Jets defense against Henne (who could go off at anytime)?

Nothing worse than losing in the playoffs because you made a poor choice.

unnecessary drama
12-05-2012, 04:01 PM
I'd go kaep, Charles, browns

Dicky McElephant
12-05-2012, 04:03 PM
I lose points for yards and points allowed for my defense.

Would you still start Charles AND the Browns?

Dicky McElephant
12-05-2012, 04:11 PM
This is my Week 1 Matchup

My Team:

Matt Ryan vs Panthers
Stevan Ridley vs. Texans
Doug Martin vs. Eagles
Julio Jones vs. Panthers
A.J. Green vs. Cowboys
Victor Cruz vs. Saints
Jared Cook vs. Colts
Browns DEF vs. Chiefs
Justin Tucker vs. Redskins

His Team:

Andy Dalton vs. Cowboys
Arian Foster vs. Patriots
Steven Jackson vs. Bills
Brandon Marshall vs. Vikings
Eric Decker vs. Raiders
TY Hilton vs. Titans
Brandon Myers vs. Broncos
Bengals DEF vs. Cowboys
Matt Bryant vs. Panthers

unnecessary drama
12-06-2012, 11:50 AM
I lose points for yards and points allowed for my defense.

Would you still start Charles AND the Browns?

I don't know, it's tough...the Browns are a safe pick in the fact neither team will score more than 17 so you know you won't lose any points...

but I don't see how you can bench Charles...you never bench your studs. It's a rule.

Old Dog
12-06-2012, 11:54 AM
Ryan, Charles, Browns for me

I agree with the hating of the playoffs though.

BigCatDaddy
12-06-2012, 04:20 PM
I don't know, it's tough...the Browns are a safe pick in the fact neither team will score more than 17 so you know you won't lose any points...

but I don't see how you can bench Charles...you never bench your studs. It's a rule.

So you think Brady vs the Texans over Luck vs Titans?

Johnny Vegas
12-06-2012, 04:25 PM
So you think Brady vs the Texans over Luck vs Titans?

If you have Brady you go all the way with him. Has he ever scored less than 20 points this season?

BigCatDaddy
12-06-2012, 04:29 PM
If you have Brady you go all the way with him. Has he ever scored less than 20 points this season?

That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, he sucked last week.

FD
12-06-2012, 04:29 PM
If you have Brady you go all the way with him. Has he ever scored less than 20 points this season?

He scored less last week.

That said, I still say you dance with them that brought you.

Johnny Vegas
12-06-2012, 04:57 PM
They both will probably score the same amount of points anyways. I think both will definitely throw for 2 TD's and 250 yards. After that its sacks, INT's, and missing playmakers that'll hurt them.

unnecessary drama
12-06-2012, 05:58 PM
this is why I hate traditional, 1 QB fantasy leagues

both of the teams in my two deep roster, OP (meaning you can play 2 QBs) keeper leagues that have Andrew Luck are in the playoffs...1 of them is the #1 seed...he went #1 and #2 in the two keeper drafts overall

I just can't respect any fantasy football leagues where Andrew Luck isn't a weekly starter...I just think it's stubborn when people bash 2 QB leagues and tell me how unrealistic they are yet starting 3-4 RB's every week is WAY more realistic!

sedated
12-06-2012, 09:23 PM
Relax. Set your final lineup on Friday night, and do whatever you can to avoid thinking about it until the games have already started.

And most of all, dont listen to anyone on CP, ESPN, fantasy gurus, or whatever. Listening to the masses has F'd me over time after time.

sedated
12-06-2012, 09:26 PM
I lose points for yards and points allowed for my defense.

Would you still start Charles AND the Browns?

I think Ive mentioned it before, but I dont think there is any correlation between the two. Go with the best option at each position. If they oppose each other, just think of it as hedging your bet.

Nzoner
12-07-2012, 01:57 PM
I spend the entire week before the games.....second guessing all of my choices.



I hear ya,one of my money leagues I opted to bench Moreno late yesterday and was :deevee: ONLY thing that hopefully saves me is its a 10 man league and my 2 rb's and flex are Ray Rice,Doug Martin and Ahmad Bradshaw.

CHENZ A!
12-07-2012, 02:23 PM
At least you fuckers made the playoffs. My team is first in points scored, and 5-8 on the season. No playoffs for me. Every damn week I was in the top 2 or 3 scores in the league, but I'd always get a ton scored against me.

CHENZ A!
12-07-2012, 02:27 PM
Matt Ryan
Jamaal Charles
Chris Johnson
Ahmad Bradshaw
Roddy White
Reggie Wayne
Dez Bryant
Steve Johnson
Tony Gonzalez
Jermaine Gresham

Damnit I like this team. I got hosed.

unnecessary drama
12-07-2012, 02:31 PM
we always pay out for points as well...this year in one league the top 6 scorers all made the playoffs

Nzoner
12-07-2012, 02:41 PM
At least you ****ers made the playoffs. My team is first in points scored, and 5-8 on the season. No playoffs for me. Every damn week I was in the top 2 or 3 scores in the league, but I'd always get a ton scored against me.

This is why I hate traditional head to head leagues and am in one league that awards the play-offs to a tier scoring system throughout the season.

OnTheWarpath58
12-07-2012, 05:46 PM
This is why I hate traditional head to head leagues and am in one league that awards the play-offs to a tier scoring system throughout the season.

Explain the system, Joe. I'd like to try to convince one of my leagues to get away from the H2H format. I'd like to eliminate some/most of the luck factor and reward guys for building a solid team.

Every year, we have a team or two that scores a ton, gets unlucky every week, and misses the playoffs. That's retarded, IMO. This year, the team that scored the 2nd most out of 12 teams missed the playoffs. That's ridiculous.

I've thought about two possible solutions.

Giving the 6 highest scoring teams each week a "win" and giving the 6 lowest scoring teams a "loss" - then using a team's "record" to determine playoff seeding with points scored as a tiebreaker.

Or, doing a roto-hybrid league where the highest scoring team each week is awarded 12 points, the 2nd highest scoring team 11 points, etc. Then the top 6 in these "points" go to the playoffs.

In each scenario, you'd have the option of sticking with this scoring in the playoffs, or returning to a H2H format specifically for the playoffs.

Thoughts?

JASONSAUTO
12-07-2012, 07:10 PM
Explain the system, Joe. I'd like to try to convince one of my leagues to get away from the H2H format. I'd like to eliminate some/most of the luck factor and reward guys for building a solid team.

Every year, we have a team or two that scores a ton, gets unlucky every week, and misses the playoffs. That's retarded, IMO. This year, the team that scored the 2nd most out of 12 teams missed the playoffs. That's ridiculous.

I've thought about two possible solutions.

Giving the 6 highest scoring teams each week a "win" and giving the 6 lowest scoring teams a "loss" - then using a team's "record" to determine playoff seeding with points scored as a tiebreaker.

Or, doing a roto-hybrid league where the highest scoring team each week is awarded 12 points, the 2nd highest scoring team 11 points, etc. Then the top 6 in these "points" go to the playoffs.

In each scenario, you'd have the option of sticking with this scoring in the playoffs, or returning to a H2H format specifically for the playoffs.

Thoughts? I scored more points than every team in my league. and didn't make the playoffs. Only won four games. Everyone had their game of the year against me. I would be interested in something like this. Thanks
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Nzoner
12-07-2012, 10:19 PM
Explain the system, Joe. I'd like to try to convince one of my leagues to get away from the H2H format. I'd like to eliminate some/most of the luck factor and reward guys for building a solid team.


I found this system at FF Today and it's all about building a solid team.

Ours is a 12 team league that still plays h2h with a small cash prize at the end for best h2h,however,the leagues scoring is based on a tier system.In other words,say I'm playing you and you beat me 145.5 to 143.7 I lose the h2h match-up but based on the other total scores I had the 2nd highest point total I'm awarded 10 pts. the tier is 11 thru 0.Those tier points are accumulated weekly and decide the play-offs and reward those who built the most solid team throughout the season.

On a personal note if your league does this get ready for Monday nights because even though you may have won your H2H you're watching everyone else who may have players going because in the end it's all about the best built team and keeps everyone interested till the end.

Nzoner
12-07-2012, 10:28 PM
Lastly,if you want a real challenge,we play all 17 weeks on the tier system and then our play-offs go with the NFL play-offs.In other words top 6 of 12 tier scoring make play-offs and can keep any play-off bound players on their rosters.Rosters must stay the same as reg season,no pick-ups once re-draft is over and no H2H but a full blown week to week overall points to decide Super Bowl winner.

unnecessary drama
12-08-2012, 11:47 AM
in my 12 team keeper leagues ($75 buy in) we do $50 towards H2H and $25 towards points.

6 teams make the playoffs

Payouts are:

$300 1st
$150 2nd
$100 3rd
$50 4th

$180 1st in points
$90 2nd in points
$30 3rd in points

In one of those keeper leagues, the 6 highest scoring teams all made the playoffs.

But I also play adult FFL and play in OP leagues where you can start 2 QB's so the position isn't devalued and the league actually takes a little cognitive thought other than taking RB's over and over and over for the first 5 rounds

unnecessary drama
12-08-2012, 11:47 AM
oh and the league ends for both H2H and points after week 16...week 17 does not exist

Chiefshrink
12-08-2012, 02:32 PM
At least you ****ers made the playoffs. My team is first in points scored, and 5-8 on the season. No playoffs for me. Every damn week I was in the top 2 or 3 scores in the league, but I'd always get a ton scored against me.

That happened to me last year. Just so happens although I would rack up great point totals all year, it seemed I would always play the hottest team that week. It sucked !:rolleyes:

Chiefshrink
12-08-2012, 02:33 PM
I spend the entire week before the games.....second guessing all of my choices.

Do I start Matt Ryan vs. the Panthers? Or do I start Kaepernick against the Dolphins?

Do I start Charles because he gets the ball at least 20 times a game? Or do I start Ridley who will get the opportunity for TDs?

Do I start the Browns defense vs. the Chiefs? Or do I start the Jets defense against Henne (who could go off at anytime)?

Nothing worse than losing in the playoffs because you made a poor choice.

PPR league ?

Dicky McElephant
12-08-2012, 04:04 PM
PPR league ?

Yes for WR, TE and RBs.

unnecessary drama
12-08-2012, 04:05 PM
Yes for WR, TE and RBs.

that's bullshit!!!

if my god damn QB gets a reception I want that fucking point!

ROFL

Dicky McElephant
12-08-2012, 04:13 PM
ROFL

unnecessary drama
12-08-2012, 04:14 PM
Just think about that Hillis to Quinn play a few weeks ago...if Quinn makes that catch it could have made someone's season in that league!

Rain Man
12-08-2012, 05:52 PM
I'm so nervous. I really need to win here to attain legitimacy for my franchise.

Nzoner
12-08-2012, 08:26 PM
in my 12 team keeper leagues ($75 buy in) we do $50 towards H2H and $25 towards points.

6 teams make the playoffs

Payouts are:

$300 1st
$150 2nd
$100 3rd
$50 4th

$180 1st in points
$90 2nd in points
$30 3rd in points

In one of those keeper leagues, the 6 highest scoring teams all made the playoffs.

But I also play adult FFL and play in OP leagues where you can start 2 QB's so the position isn't devalued and the league actually takes a little cognitive thought other than taking RB's over and over and over for the first 5 rounds

oh and the league ends for both H2H and points after week 16...week 17 does not exist

Not this shit again :rolleyes:

unnecessary drama
12-08-2012, 08:28 PM
It's true. Someday people will understand how non-skillful 1 QB leagues are.

BigCatDaddy
12-08-2012, 08:54 PM
It's true. Someday people will understand how non-skillful 1 QB leagues are.

It's getting that way because there are at least a dozen guys that put up pretty solid numbers anymore You can't wait until later rounds and still get a great QB anymore.

unnecessary drama
12-08-2012, 09:38 PM
just don't understand why the single most valuable position in sports gets undervalued in the biggest fantasy sport out there

makes NO sense whatsoever

I guarantee in 5 years or less every standard league will start being an OP league

everyone is just behind the curve (other than me, of course!)

they are just far more enjoyable leagues

Dicky McElephant
12-10-2012, 11:01 AM
Put Charles back into my lineup 5 minutes before the game. Thank God.

Ended up starting the Jets defense instead of the Browns defense. Missed out on 5 points. Oh well. I'm up 160 to 98 and all he has left is Arian Foster.

Nzoner
12-10-2012, 11:35 AM
What a week for Coughlin to give Wilson his shot,Bradshaw killed me.

Cave Johnson
12-10-2012, 03:46 PM
I'm up 20 with Riddler and Hernandez vs. Brady. I like my chances.

Dicky McElephant
12-11-2012, 10:23 AM
Alright.....so obviously I won that matchup. I win this week and I'm in the Championship game. I play the team this week that I lost to in Week 1. Who the fuck do I start?

Pick 1
Matt Ryan vs. Giants
Colin Kaepernick vs. Patriots

Pick 2
Jamaal Charles vs. Raiders
Doug Martin vs. Saints
Stevan Ridley vs. 49ers

Pick 3
Julio Jones vs. Giants
A.J. Green vs. Eagles
Victor Cruz vs. Falcons
Pierre Garcon vs. Browns
Jordy Nelson vs. Bears

Pick 1
Browns vs. Redskins
Jets vs. Titans
Vikings vs. Rams (FA pickup if need be)

My RBs are obvious. I'm not starting Ridley against the 49ers. I generally hate having a bunch of players in 1 game.....but Ryan, Jones and Cruz are obvious starts. The defense is what gets me the most. The Browns have to play RGIII. The Jets are playing on Monday night....but that team is all sorts of fucked. And the Vikings play the Rams....but the Rams have shown the capability of putting up points.

It's basically going to come down to whether or not Ryan decides to fuck me over.

Old Dog
12-11-2012, 10:46 AM
Any chance that either the Lions (@ Arizona) or Bengals (@ Philly) are available? I would look there if they are rather than Minnesota.

Otherwise the only possibility I see is Kaepernick and like you, I would start Ryan.

Dicky McElephant
12-11-2012, 10:47 AM
The Lions? Yes. The Bengals? No.

Old Dog
12-11-2012, 11:27 AM
The Cardinals haven't scored 20 since week 4, are the lowest scoring team in the NFL, have gained the fewest yards, have given up (by far) the most sacks, and only two teams (KC and Philly) have committed more turnovers.

I believe Detroit is the answer for a defense this week if you can get them.

Dicky McElephant
12-11-2012, 11:50 AM
Fuck....I thought they were available. Turns out someone picked up them up last week. Bastards. Here are the FA defenses that are available.

Cardinals vs. DET
Eagles vs. CIN
Cowboys vs. PIT
Vikings vs. STL
Bucs vs. NO
Panthers vs. SD
Redskins vs. CLE
Chiefs vs. OAK
Colts vs. HOU
Raiders vs. KC
Saints vs. TB
Titans vs. NYJ
Jags vs. MIA

Dartgod
12-11-2012, 11:57 AM
Fuck Seattle's defense.

Win my division, best record in the league and I'm out in the 1st round because Seattle's defense scored an insane amount of points.

Scoring in our league is generally around 130-150 is needed to win. I lost 181-136.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111

Old Dog
12-11-2012, 12:00 PM
Very much "yuck" right there. If I had to go with one of them, I would probably roll the dice with the Raiders, but the Jets may be the way to go and not lose a waiver claim. Of course if RGIII is out you stay with Cleveland.

Dicky McElephant
12-14-2012, 10:29 AM
My match up this week. Win and I'm in the Championship game.

My Team:

Matt Ryan vs. NYG
Jamaal Charles vs. OAK
Doug Martin vs. NO
Julio Jones vs. NYG
A.J. Green vs. PHI (17.7 points)
Victor Cruz vs. ATL
Greg Olsen vs. SD
Justin Tucker vs. DEN
Jets DEF vs. TEN

His Team:

Tom Brady vs. SF
Darren McFadden vs. KC
C.J. Spiller vs. SEA
Bryce Brown vs. CIN (5.5 points)
Hakeem Nicks vs. ATL
Danario Alexander vs. CAR
Aaron Hernandez vs. SF
Patriots DEF vs. SF
Lawrence Tynes vs. ATL


We have a total of 5 players in the ATL/NYG matchup.

Old Dog
12-14-2012, 12:12 PM
Methinks you win, but not by much

Dicky McElephant
12-14-2012, 12:14 PM
I need that ATL/NYG game to be a high scoring game.......and the NE/SF game to be low scoring.

The guy I'm playing is really good friend of mine. We co-commish the league together. He won it all last year.....so I'm praying to God that I knock him out this week.

Old Dog
12-14-2012, 12:22 PM
My lineups for my main league are below. I've never won the fricking thing but have finished 2nd or 3rd five dang times in nine (this is our 10th) year One of my others is worth more money, but this is the one I care about. I'm hoping that it's my time.

Freeman @ NO
Richardson v Was
Martin @ NO
Jackson v Min
Jones v NYG
Blackmon @ Mia
Gates v Car
Lions @ Ari
Bailey v Pit


Kaepernick @ NE
Foster v Ind
Gore @ NE
White v NYG
Gordon v Was
Alexander v Car
Chandler v Sea
Vikings @ StL
Tucker v Den


Who ya got?

Ceej
12-14-2012, 12:22 PM
Not to Bogart your thread Pest.

Here's my quarterfinal matchup.

Im already down 23, mind you.

ShowMeYourTDs (me)
Romo v. Pitt
Foster v. Indy
DMC v. KC
Cruz @ ATL
Welker v. SF
Garcon @ Cleveland
Alexander v. Carolina
Janikowski v. KC
Miami v. jax

Mad Russians (him)
Stafford @ Arizona
Spiller v. Seattle
Ridley v. SF
Bryant v. Pitt
Megatron @ Zona
Decker @ Balt
Richardson v. Wash
Bryant v. NYG
Cincy @ Philly (23pts)

I like my matchups a lot more than his, especially at RB.

Thoughts?

Old Dog
12-14-2012, 12:24 PM
Thoughts?

I think you need another RB or you're in trouble. You only listed one

Ceej
12-14-2012, 12:28 PM
I think you need another RB or you're in trouble. You only listed one

LMAO

Done.

Ceej
12-14-2012, 12:30 PM
My lineups for my main league are below. I've never won the fricking thing but have finished 2nd or 3rd five dang times in nine (this is our 10th) year One of my others is worth more money, but this is the one I care about. I'm hoping that it's my time.

Freeman @ NO
Richardson v Was
Martin @ NO
Jackson v Min
Jones v NYG
Blackmon @ Mia
Gates v Car
Lions @ Ari
Bailey v Pit


Kaepernick @ NE
Foster v Ind
Gore @ NE
White v NYG
Gordon v Was
Alexander v Car
Chandler v Sea
Vikings @ StL
Tucker v Den


Who ya got?

Give me team one.

(I got to root for Alexander though. Hope you don't mind).

Old Dog
12-14-2012, 12:34 PM
Yeah, with both RBs I think you'll be OK...I hope you're right in mine as well

Ceej
12-14-2012, 12:38 PM
Yeah, with both RBs I think you'll be OK...I hope you're right in mine as well

I like how NE has recently been more RBBC and they play SF.

I dislike the fact that it seems Houston has recently too.

I NEED MOAR FOSTER!!!!

Dicky McElephant
12-14-2012, 04:09 PM
Would you start David Wilson over any of the following players?

Jamaal Charles
Doug Martin
Victor Cruz
Julio Jones?

Ceej
12-14-2012, 04:17 PM
Would you start David Wilson over any of the following players?

Jamaal Charles
Doug Martin
Victor Cruz
Julio Jones?

No.

Old Dog
12-14-2012, 04:28 PM
In a PPR I would start Cruz and with White iffy may start Julio. In a non PPR, I don't think I would, but neither one of those two would be crazy.
Certainly not over either of the other RBs though......Martin is my #1 RB this week

Chiefshrink
12-15-2012, 11:02 PM
I need that ATL/NYG game to be a high scoring game.......and the NE/SF game to be low scoring.

Your thinking is right on in these games. I see high scoring in the ATL/NYG game but I think it will mostly be done by the Giants because the Giants front four are going to be all up in Ryan's arse as David Wilson will continue to go off. Giants continue to wake up from their slumber and continue to play well this week.

Although Brady is at home and has been playing well he will be running from both Smiths all night and Bellichek will know how to scheme against this rookie QB and slow him down. So I suspect a low scoring game as well.

Dicky McElephant
12-16-2012, 07:25 PM
I'm up by 65. He has Brady and Hernandez left. I have the Jets defense (if need be.

I'm praying to God that they don't do what they did last week.

Old Dog
12-16-2012, 10:44 PM
Your thinking is right on in these games. I see high scoring in the ATL/NYG game but I think it will mostly be done by the Giants because the Giants front four are going to be all up in Ryan's arse as David Wilson will continue to go off. Giants continue to wake up from their slumber and continue to play well this week.

Although Brady is at home and has been playing well he will be running from both Smiths all night and Bellichek will know how to scheme against this rookie QB and slow him down. So I suspect a low scoring game as well.

WOW....you really hit this one out of the park.

Ceej
12-16-2012, 10:52 PM
WOW....you really hit this one out of the park.

Not a very good shrink, huh? lol.

Dicky McElephant
12-17-2012, 12:24 AM
And now my dilemma.

I'm up by 6. I still have the Jets defense left. I can start them just incase there is a stat change. Or I can not start them (because of the possibility of negative points) and pray for no stat changes.

What do you think?

niblet
12-17-2012, 12:54 AM
And now my dilemma.

I'm up by 6. I still have the Jets defense left. I can start them just incase there is a stat change. Or I can not start them (because of the possibility of negative points) and pray for no stat changes.

What do you think?

I would bench them. 6 points is an awful lot to be made up by stat changes, which are normally just a point or two in the off chance that they even occur. My brother lost the fantasy championship last week (not sure why we had it then instead of this week) because the Cardinals D/ST got him -7. He lost by 1 point. Don't be my brother.

Dartgod
12-17-2012, 07:29 AM
I'm the Chiefs of fantasy football.

Won the division in both of my leagues, with a first round bye in one of them. Of course, I get smoked in the first game of both leagues.

:banghead:

Fucking Victor Cruz. :cuss:

Dicky McElephant
12-20-2012, 10:41 AM
It all comes down to this. How badly do I get beat?

My Team:

Ryan vs. DET
Charles vs. IND
Martin vs. STL
Jones vs. DET
Green vs. PIT
Cruz vs. BAL
Olsen vs. OAK
Defense undecided
Tucker vs. NYG

His Team:

Newton vs. OAK
Peterson vs. HOU
Richardson vs. DEN
Johnson vs. MIN
Smith vs. OAK
Blackmon vs. NE
Gates vs. NYJ
Panthers DEF vs. OAK
Gostkowski vs. JAC

Dicky McElephant
12-20-2012, 10:41 AM
Oh....and pick a defense.

Jets vs. SD
Colts vs. KC

Dicky McElephant
12-20-2012, 01:13 PM
Would you start Victor Cruz or Pierre Garcon?

unnecessary drama
12-20-2012, 01:16 PM
Tough!

But I'm going Jets and Garcon...with Garcon being a really, really tough choice.

I just trust RGIII throwing a TD over Eli at this point.

Dicky McElephant
12-20-2012, 01:31 PM
Yeah....I'm flip flopping between Garcon and Cruz. Cruz has the potential for a big game....but hasn't done shit lately. Plus the Ravens are slouches. Garcon on the other hand has a QB who will chuck it deep and he's guaranteed to get at least 10 targets a game.

I'm leaning towards the Colts defense because I'm going to have to go balls out to win this championship game. The guy I'm playing is fucking stacked. Plus the Chiefs fucking suck.

NJChiefsFan
12-23-2012, 12:07 AM
Yeah....I'm flip flopping between Garcon and Cruz. Cruz has the potential for a big game....but hasn't done shit lately. Plus the Ravens are slouches. Garcon on the other hand has a QB who will chuck it deep and he's guaranteed to get at least 10 targets a game.

I'm leaning towards the Colts defense because I'm going to have to go balls out to win this championship game. The guy I'm playing is ****ing stacked. Plus the Chiefs ****ing suck.

I have a plug-and-play choice between ARI and IND. I was thinking INDY but the Chiefs do seem to enjoy the three and out without passing it. That kind of worries me a little. The advantage IND has compared to both of our options is the desire to win the game. In the end, I would like to know that me defense gives as much of a fuck as I do. I know that doesn't always correlate to more points, but for me I feel more comfortable. Kind of like not wanting all your players in the early games.

I would also like to take the time to thank Tony G for getting my team off to a horrible start on championship weekend. Nine yards is just ****ing great Tony. Damn you.

Side note, interesting that you had the decision with the Jets D last week, as I was also up 6 in that game and benched Greene.

Dicky McElephant
12-23-2012, 05:52 PM
CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!! $850 richer.....

Sofa King
12-23-2012, 05:58 PM
Totally dominated. Worst week I've had, probably all season.