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tooge
12-11-2012, 12:34 PM
I'm wanting to get an intro type welder. My only welding experience was 30 years ago in metal shop, heh. Anyhow, I'm wanting something fairly inexpensive, as in less than $500, something simple to use, but I'm clueless as to what is out there and companies, etc. Any help.

Brock
12-11-2012, 12:35 PM
You want to stick arc, or wire feed?

ghak99
12-11-2012, 12:50 PM
Miller and Hobart have treated us very well, but I'm talking about their bigger welders.

A neighbor has one of the small 115v Hobarts and says he gets along very well with it. I want to say he gave ~400 for it. I'd guess it's paid for itself at least 3 times by watching his driveway projects.

tooge
12-11-2012, 12:53 PM
oh, and it would be for doing small jobs on 16gg or less steel for the most part. Maybe a little fabrication type stuff, but nothing more than that.

tooge
12-11-2012, 12:55 PM
You want to stick arc, or wire feed?

probably arc from what I remember about them helping a buddy or two over the years with them. I've tried the wire feeder types and they always seem like a pain in the ass, but that could have been operator error.

LiveSteam
12-11-2012, 12:55 PM
Kinda depends on what you want to do. lil Lincoln wire feed are nice for fence post, broken basket ball polls, stuff that strength aint really going to be an issue. If you start talking Load on weld. Like a boiler You need a stick feed DC or AC welder. DC is easier for a rookie to flame the tip of the rod & get on with his weld. Both types can be had cheap if you look around.

Brock
12-11-2012, 12:57 PM
probably arc from what I remember about them helping a buddy or two over the years with them. I've tried the wire feeder types and they always seem like a pain in the ass, but that could have been operator error.

I think wire feed is the way you want to go for thin metal. Stick is generally for 1/4" thick and up. Plus wire feed can do the thicker stuff too, depending on how powerful it is.

LiveSteam
12-11-2012, 12:58 PM
probably arc from what I remember about them helping a buddy or two over the years with them. I've tried the wire feeder types and they always seem like a pain in the ass, but that could have been operator error.

They are nice. I use a lot of flx core wire in my wire feed. No gas needed. I build a lot of choo choo train shit with that lil wire feed. Its great for modeling & toys

Buehler445
12-11-2012, 12:59 PM
probably arc from what I remember about them helping a buddy or two over the years with them. I've tried the wire feeder types and they always seem like a pain in the ass, but that could have been operator error.

IMO, wire is easier than stick. I'm pretty n00bish with a welder, and wire works pretty well.

If it were me, I'd pick up a smaller miller wire welder. Be it known though I'm a welding amateur.

kcpasco
12-11-2012, 01:10 PM
I prefer TIG for thin metal

Brock
12-11-2012, 01:11 PM
I prefer TIG for thin metal

You gotta have gas for that, right?

kcpasco
12-11-2012, 01:13 PM
You gotta have gas for that, right?

Yes it's differs between carbon, stainless or aluminum

Brock
12-11-2012, 01:17 PM
Yes it's differs between carbon, stainless or aluminum

Do you have to lease the bottles or anything like that? That's what's always kept me from getting into it, I already spend a bunch of acetylene and oxygen.

ghak99
12-11-2012, 01:19 PM
oh, and it would be for doing small jobs on 16gg or less steel for the most part. Maybe a little fabrication type stuff, but nothing more than that.

I'd take a look at the small wire units that have the ability to have a bottle added. You can always buy or build a cart to roll the unit/bottle/tools around on after you know you like it.

We don't use it, but several odd job guys get along with the core wire really well.

Groves
12-11-2012, 01:24 PM
If you make sure the model description has the word "autoset" in it, you're heading the right direction.

kcpasco
12-11-2012, 01:27 PM
Do you have to lease the bottles or anything like that? That's what's always kept me from getting into it, I already spend a bunch of acetylene and oxygen.

You can just do a bottle exchange. I'm not sure if you can just buy your own bottle and have it refilled or not. I don't do much welding away from work.

BCD
12-11-2012, 01:35 PM
I had Welding during my Jr and Sr yrs in HS. A vocational school.

I could kick ass on TIG, welding stainless.

Tig welding is with a pointed Tungsten rod. It doesn't come in contact with the workpiece.

I was good with the Oxy-Acetylene welding, too.

Aced that class both years.

BCD
12-11-2012, 01:39 PM
My sr yr we got a new wire feed that didn't require Argon.

It was a centered-cored flux. Heavier gauged wire. That was cool as shit. It burned very hot with brighter than usual arc.

Damn, I forgot how much I enjoyed that class.