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Sorter
12-12-2012, 10:00 AM
Could he possibly add 12-20lbs and play as a 1-gap DE? I haven't watched him at all, save a few snaps on ESPN and casually watching FSU.

Edit: He's 6'5 275 currently. FWIW, JJ Watt is pretty prototypical size in 6'5, 295.

Mr_Tomahawk
12-13-2012, 09:22 PM
If you blur your eyes and look at the title of this thread, it look's like it says "Sperm Warmer".

Saccopoo
12-14-2012, 05:40 PM
Could he possibly add 12-20lbs and play as a 1-gap DE? I haven't watched him at all, save a few snaps on ESPN and casually watching FSU.

Edit: He's 6'5 275 currently. FWIW, JJ Watt is pretty prototypical size in 6'5, 295.

No.

He's a 43 defensive end.

And he's very, very good. Relentless and nasty.

And consider that he's only played organized football for four or five years total, he's still got a lot of growth in terms of understanding the game. However, he plays with a natural, instinctive feel for the game.

I think he's very similar to John Abraham.

Sorter
12-14-2012, 08:07 PM
KK. I haven't watched him and no idea if he had the frame to play the 3-tech. Well, that plan can apparently GTFO.

O.city
12-17-2012, 09:06 PM
Something the other day was brought to my attention regarding a dlineman. If the Faid do infact cut ties with Seymour, would you bring him into KC if he wanted to keep playing.

Nightfyre
12-17-2012, 09:21 PM
Yes. He can provide valuable leadership that our defense clearly needs and can fit any scheme we put together and he's still playing at a high level.

Nightfyre
12-17-2012, 09:22 PM
And he can provide insight into the raiders.

O.city
12-17-2012, 10:17 PM
Jackson, Poe, Seymour across the front?

Nightfyre
12-17-2012, 10:20 PM
Hell if he could mold Jackson into himself, that would be cool.

O.city
12-17-2012, 10:39 PM
Seymour in front of Tamba or Houston on 3rd down would be pretty scary.

Sorter
12-19-2012, 04:30 PM
I want this + Geno so bad. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/lvq0yY4PCV4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

O.city
12-19-2012, 06:23 PM
What does he play in the 34? Can he bulk up and be a Wyatt type guy?

Saccopoo
12-19-2012, 11:45 PM
What does he play in the 34? Can he bulk up and be a Wyatt type guy?

See above.

He's a 43 defensive end exclusively.

Sorter
12-20-2012, 02:13 AM
See above.

He's a 43 defensive end exclusively.

See, normally I'd agree. I think he has the potential to add on size( could probably bulk him up to 285-290 with out losing much) and possibly play in a 3/4 tech on subs. He seems to be very active with his hands and can beat an interior double team. Seems pretty strong and you could potentially you could have him play the 3 or 4/5 tech on subs, with Poe playing a shaded 1 with Hali and hOuston playing either 7s or 9s. It's a stretch, I know. However, I'm desperate for a true 3/4/5 tech who can provide a pass rush consistently.

Additionally, you could do various stunts to get him 1-1 matchups that would play favorably to his style, especially in a fire-zone base.

Nightfyre
12-20-2012, 02:22 AM
Maybe who we are looking for is Margus Hunt? Anyone watched much of him?

Sorter
12-20-2012, 02:47 AM
Maybe who we are looking for is Margus Hunt? Anyone watched much of him?

No, but I'll add him to the list.

I watched the Montana St (iirc) kid. I want.

Saccopoo
12-22-2012, 11:31 AM
See, normally I'd agree. I think he has the potential to add on size( could probably bulk him up to 285-290 with out losing much) and possibly play in a 3/4 tech on subs. He seems to be very active with his hands and can beat an interior double team. Seems pretty strong and you could potentially you could have him play the 3 or 4/5 tech on subs, with Poe playing a shaded 1 with Hali and hOuston playing either 7s or 9s. It's a stretch, I know. However, I'm desperate for a true 3/4/5 tech who can provide a pass rush consistently.

Additionally, you could do various stunts to get him 1-1 matchups that would play favorably to his style, especially in a fire-zone base.

I don't think so. I think he's a Abraham/Allen type of guy that won't carry the weight well and will have to stay in the 265ish range to be truly effective.

I mean, the guy is an absolute beast and is non-stop, but you'd have to run a 46 version of the 3-4 defense if you want to keep your current personel and add a guy like Werner (but then you've kind of got that same guy in Hali and Houston). Personally, I think we should really look at getting a DC in here that can effectively run it (perhaps Rob Ryan) as our personel is really set up for it right now. We'd kill teams with that setup. Poe and Berry would absolutely thrive in it and it would allow Powe to see the field and redirect the point of attack.

It ain't gonna happen though. I think he could legitimately go to Jacksonville at #2.

Sorter
12-22-2012, 05:16 PM
I don't think so. I think he's a Abraham/Allen type of guy that won't carry the weight well and will have to stay in the 265ish range to be truly effective.

I mean, the guy is an absolute beast and is non-stop, but you'd have to run a 46 version of the 3-4 defense if you want to keep your current personel and add a guy like Werner (but then you've kind of got that same guy in Hali and Houston). Personally, I think we should really look at getting a DC in here that can effectively run it (perhaps Rob Ryan) as our personel is really set up for it right now. We'd kill teams with that setup. Poe and Berry would absolutely thrive in it and it would allow Powe to see the field and redirect the point of attack.

It ain't gonna happen though. I think he could legitimately go to Jacksonville at #2.

If jacksonville is smart, they'd draft him and then snag whatever QB was available or trade up.