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Deberg_1990
12-12-2012, 11:27 AM
Wow...tragic



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2246896/Jessica-Laney-16-committed-suicide-internet-trolls-taunted-told-kill-herself.html



A teenage girl has hanged herself after internet trolls relentlessly bullied her online, with one asking 'can you kill yourself already?', her friends have claimed.

Jessica Laney, 16, was found dead at her home in Hudson, Florida, on Sunday night after users on social networking sites branded her 'fat', a 'slut' and tormented her over her looks and love life.

The teen had a profile on Ask.fm, where people can post questions anonymously on a user's page, and friends claim constant abuse pushed Jessica over the edge.
'My friend Jessica Laney took her life,' friend Valeria Canales told ABC. 'She was constantly bullied and bullied. And she was pushed and pushed to the point where she couldn’t handle it anymore.


'Ask.fm is a website where people can ask anonymous questions to anyone they want. And that's how Jessica was constantly put down and bullied... It needs to be shut down.
'She was a beautiful girl & everyone loved her. Shes gonna be missed. We have to put an end to bullying. Please help.'



The cruel remarks can still be seen on Jessica's page. One visitor asked her, 'Can you kill yourself already?' while another commented 'nobody even cares about you'.
Jessica, who was a keen soccer player, also takes to the page to reveal her own turmoil, sharing her heartbreak at her troubled family life, school spats and concerns over her body.



'My brother and I don't talk anymore,' she wrote earlier this month. 'My dad, yeah he ignores me like I don't even f***ing exist. I have almost no friends I actually trust. My mom bitches at me for the littlest things. I am basically all alone.'

And in one now haunting post, she responded to a question asking what she thought about suicide.

'If you ever feel this low I just wanna say it's not your fault,' she wrote at the end of November. 'I know you feel useless, broken, not wanted and alone. I was there. But I promise you it will get better.
'You will get through the endless pain I promise school will be over soon and you can get away from the judgmental f***s. Nothing is worth it; it will all get better.'
However, officials at Pasco County Sheriff's Office said neither Jessica's parents or boyfriend were aware of any bullying and said no formal complaint had ever been made to the school district.
'Our thoughts and prayers go to the Jessica Marie Laney's family as they deal with their loss,' Sheriff's spokesman Doug Tobi added.



On Tuesday, students at Fivay High School, where Jessica attended and played soccer, wore purple in remembrance of the teenager.
The students are also pushing for the website, Ask.fm, to be closed down.
'After I saw that, I thought they should just delete the website,' friend Laney Torres told ABC Action News. 'Nobody should have that, to have people say stuff like that on there.'
Around 3,000 people have signed a petition at Change.org to close the website.
Sheriff Chris Nocco said the messages on Ask.fm are disturbing and an investigation continues.

'What we can say is that we are going through the social network sites right now,' he said.
'We don't even know if a crime occurred. It could have been nasty words that were said, that led this young girl to take the actions that she did.'

Ask.fm is a website where users can post anonymous questions to other users and is said to have more than 20 million members.
The Latvian-based site, which targets 13 to 18 year olds, previously came under fire after it was linked to the deaths of two teenagers in Ireland earlier this year.
The website's terms of service recommend 'by way of example, and not as a limitation' that users do not transmit 'offensive, threatening, harassing, libellous, hate-oriented, harmful' content.
And during a previous investigation, founder Mark Terebin posted: 'Ask.fm is just a tool which helps people to communicate with each other, same as any other social network, same as phone, same as piece of paper and pen.


'Don't blame a tool, but try to make changes... start with yourself... be more polite, more kind, more tolerant of others... cultivate these values in families, in schools.'
Laney's death has been classified as a suicide but the sheriff's office continues to investigate the events that led to her death.
More than 1,600 people have 'liked' a Facebook page set up in tribute to the teenager.

Kristi Clark said: 'Beautiful girl, inside and out. I had the pleasure of knowing her. Very sweet, bubbly personality, such a horrific shame at what has happened!'
Sheri Toth wrote: 'So sad to hear. Such a beautiful and young girl. Prayers to all her family & friends. This bullying does need to stop!!! The people that were bullying her, need to be held accountable!'

Sorter
12-12-2012, 11:34 AM
She uh....


...doesn't have a POF account, does she?

Rudy lost the toss
12-12-2012, 11:36 AM
Saved some guy out there from a terrible marriage/divorce

Der Flöprer
12-12-2012, 11:38 AM
I wonder how many fat, and ugly people kill themselves every day that we never hear about because it's not news worthy to hear about them.

listopencil
12-12-2012, 11:39 AM
I have to wonder why she kept logging back onto it.

KCUnited
12-12-2012, 11:39 AM
Very chad story.

Inmem58
12-12-2012, 11:43 AM
**** you Flordia.


I don't like that state anymore.


Lumpy post that gif of bugs for me.

Dayze
12-12-2012, 11:45 AM
why did the chick keep logging in? JFC.

rabblerouser
12-12-2012, 11:47 AM
I have to wonder why she kept logging back onto it.

^this.

If you aren't thick-skinned enough, then step away the screen, unplug the monitor...and do something else.

Dayze
12-12-2012, 11:49 AM
why couldn't she have gotten hooked on pills and get into porn like a normal person?

InChiefsHell
12-12-2012, 11:53 AM
^this.

If you aren't thick-skinned enough, then step away the screen, unplug the monitor...and do something else.

It's some kind of sick need to know what everyone is saying about you. It's out of control. These kids don't know the difference between reality and the internet anymore, because the internet IS their reality. It's fuckin' sad.

BIG_DADDY
12-12-2012, 11:55 AM
How you manage to raise a child with no boundaries at that age is unfathomable.

Dayze
12-12-2012, 11:57 AM
It's some kind of sick need to know what everyone is saying about you. It's out of control. These kids don't know the difference between reality and the internet anymore, because the internet IS their reality. It's ****in' sad.

no joke. get out side; have bottle rocket fights, BB gun fights....climb a fucking tree. play tackle football, or smear the queer (no offense GoChiefs).

jesus..I was never in the damned house.

Predarat
12-12-2012, 11:57 AM
Bob Costas and Jason Whitlock want to ban the intrawebz now.

BIG_DADDY
12-12-2012, 11:57 AM
why couldn't she have gotten hooked on pills and get into porn like a normal person?

Her first gang bang video was just a few months away. :shrug:

SNR
12-12-2012, 11:57 AM
Sounds like she was mad, bro

Dayze
12-12-2012, 12:00 PM
Her first gang bang video was just a few months away. :shrug:

or she found out her contract stated she had to do ATM.

Sorter
12-12-2012, 12:01 PM
no joke. get out side; have bottle rocket fights, BB gun fights....climb a ****ing tree. play tackle football, or smear the queer (no offense GoChiefs).

jesus..I was never in the damned house.

ROFL

Sorter
12-12-2012, 12:02 PM
or she found out told Matt Cassel on POF she wanted to do ATM...

I mean, it could happen. ROFL

Pawnmower
12-12-2012, 12:04 PM
she really shouldnt have been hanging around that website

but i mean

why did her friends and family just leave her dangling

Mr. Laz
12-12-2012, 12:05 PM
current generations live online, just like we used to live out in our neighborhoods


i'm not sure the 'just don't log-on' option is as easy as it sounds.

Pawnmower
12-12-2012, 12:05 PM
she felt like a nooseance to everyone

Pawnmower
12-12-2012, 12:05 PM
i can knot imagine feeling that depressed

Dayze
12-12-2012, 12:06 PM
she felt she no loger needed to hang around on that site.

Pawnmower
12-12-2012, 12:06 PM
i wonder how people get roped into using crappy web sites that abuse people

mdchiefsfan
12-12-2012, 12:07 PM
tl;dr

Dayze
12-12-2012, 12:08 PM
the problem here is knot with her; it's the bullying.

CrazyPhuD
12-12-2012, 12:08 PM
She clearly wasn't that fat or the rope would have snapped when she tried to hang herself.

Sorter
12-12-2012, 12:10 PM
http://media2.wptv.com//photo/2012/12/11/Jessica_Laney_on_askfm_20121211095901_640_480_20121211130144_320_240.JPG

Baconeater
12-12-2012, 12:13 PM
i wonder how people get roped into using crappy web sites that abuse people
Yeah I don't get it either.

P.S. Kill yourself.

mr. tegu
12-12-2012, 12:17 PM
'My brother and I don't talk anymore,' she wrote earlier this month. 'My dad, yeah he ignores me like I don't even f***ing exist. I have almost no friends I actually trust. My mom bitches at me for the littlest things. I am basically all alone.'

Sounds like her family is more responsible than they would like to admit. She likely looked to the web site BECAUSE of what she felt within the home. That would be why she kept logging back in; to escape the feelings of neglect and unimportance from her family (misguided as they could have been) and instead was searching for validation, self-worth, and attention from somewhere else.

bevischief
12-12-2012, 12:40 PM
What a sad dysfunctional family.

listopencil
12-12-2012, 12:44 PM
Sounds like her family is more responsible than they would like to admit. She likely looked to the web site BECAUSE of what she felt within the home. That would be why she kept logging back in; to escape the feelings of neglect and unimportance from her family (misguided as they could have been) and instead was searching for validation, self-worth, and attention from somewhere else.

She was a teenaged girl. That stuff may or may not be true, that's just how she felt at the time she was typing.

mr. tegu
12-12-2012, 12:49 PM
She was a teenaged girl. That stuff may or may not be true, that's just how she felt at the time she was typing.

I agree which is why I put the part that what she said or was feeling could have been misguided. Either way, when she starts saying no one is on her side and that she feels all alone, even without friends she can trust, she is clearly having issues with self-esteem and turned to outside sources to improve it.

FAX
12-12-2012, 12:52 PM
It's some kind of sick need to know what everyone is saying about you. It's out of control. These kids don't know the difference between reality and the internet anymore, because the internet IS their reality. It's ****in' sad.

This, I believe, is the core problem, Mr. InChiefsHell.

It doesn't take much for a person to construct their own reality. I know this because I know people and some of those people live in a reality that isn't anything like the one I know.

For a lot of folks, the interweb thing is their life. It's their primary communication vehicle and one of the few methods they have or use for interacting with others. Combine that with the anonymity provided to low-life scumbags who derive joy from demeaning people and you have all the ingredients for a tragedy.

FAX

listopencil
12-12-2012, 12:53 PM
I agree which is why I put the part that what she said or was feeling could have been misguided. Either way, when she starts saying no one is on her side and that she feels all alone, even without friends she can trust, she is clearly having issues with self-esteem and turned to outside sources to improve it.

Sure. That's absolutely true. Even if her feelings were unfounded they were real feelings, with real consequences. She sadly demonstrated that.

SNR
12-12-2012, 01:03 PM
A beautiful soul

Chief Gump
12-12-2012, 01:16 PM
I wonder how many fat, and ugly people kill themselves every day that we never hear about because it's not news worthy to hear about them.

A million deaths is a statistic, one death is a tragedy.

Chief Gump
12-12-2012, 01:17 PM
Man, she should have just hung in there a little longer.

Bowser
12-12-2012, 01:23 PM
http://media2.wptv.com//photo/2012/12/11/Jessica_Laney_on_askfm_20121211095901_640_480_20121211130144_320_240.JPG

Cute girl. What a shame she'll never know how good it would have felt to go back to her ten year anniversary and laugh at all the people that mocked her.

Fish
12-12-2012, 01:24 PM
http://media2.wptv.com//photo/2012/12/11/Jessica_Laney_on_askfm_20121211095901_640_480_20121211130144_320_240.JPG

Too fat....

BIG_DADDY
12-12-2012, 01:45 PM
This, I believe, is the core problem, Mr. InChiefsHell.

It doesn't take much for a person to construct their own reality. I know this because I know people and some of those people live in a reality that isn't anything like the one I know.

For a lot of folks, the interweb thing is their life. It's their primary communication vehicle and one of the few methods they have or use for interacting with others. Combine that with the anonymity provided to low-life scumbags who derive joy from demeaning people and you have all the ingredients for a tragedy.

FAX

IMO the parents are to blame way more than anyone else. We have all seen the bullying process but nobody was offing themself. It was real bullying too not words on a friggen computer.

-King-
12-12-2012, 01:47 PM
She shoulda logged off.

Frazod
12-12-2012, 01:48 PM
A beautiful soul

I guess she hung herself in mid-air

CoMoChief
12-12-2012, 01:59 PM
too fat/Omaha

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-12-2012, 02:08 PM
So sad.

FAX
12-12-2012, 02:31 PM
IMO the parents are to blame way more than anyone else. We have all seen the bullying process but nobody was offing themself. It was real bullying too not words on a friggen computer.

Excellent point, Mr. BIG_DADDY. Back in my day, it wasn't real bullying until your junior high school enemies tried to take a hatchet to your mom. Those guys really knew their bullying. Forget about self-esteem, you were risking your life merely walking the streets or going to the store or attending class. Those were the days when real bullies roamed the hallways and byways.

They were almost as bad as the medieval bullies you read about who, if they could catch you, would put the Caltrop or Greek Fire to your ass.

FAX

theelusiveeightrop
12-12-2012, 02:39 PM
Was she a Chiefs fan?

something cooler
12-12-2012, 02:49 PM
Chiefs planet it is going to be linked to 1 of these 1 of these days

tooge
12-12-2012, 02:52 PM
that is sad. I'd have been hittin that back when I was 16, not telling her to off herself.

Predarat
12-12-2012, 02:52 PM
Chiefs planet it is going to be linked to 1 of these 1 of these days

It may already have been.

BIG_DADDY
12-12-2012, 03:46 PM
Excellent point, Mr. BIG_DADDY. Back in my day, it wasn't real bullying until your junior high school enemies tried to take a hatchet to your mom. Those guys really knew their bullying. Forget about self-esteem, you were risking your life merely walking the streets or going to the store or attending class. Those were the days when real bullies roamed the hallways and byways.

They were almost as bad as the medieval bullies you read about who, if they could catch you, would put the Caltrop or Greek Fire to your ass.

FAX

I don't know about all that but kicking the crap out of someone would certainly qualify as real bullying to me. Words on the internet, not so much.

Any child who's self-esteem is that low is certainly a refection of their parents ability to raise them as well. Huge failure.

FAX
12-12-2012, 03:52 PM
I don't know about all that but kicking the crap out of someone would certainly qualify as real bullying to me. Words on the internet, not so much.

Any child who's self-esteem is that low is certainly a refection of their parents ability to raise them as well. Huge failure.

I don't disagree. It's pretty clear that parents can instill into a child the qualities that generally comprise self-esteem.

On the other hand, teen angst has always been around and depression is no respecter of status or intelligence or wealth or any of the things upon which most persons base their self-worth.

Having known several young persons who either committed suicide or self-destructed in other less dramatic ways simply due to an inability to function in normal society, I conclude that it's a very complex issue for which simple answers are hard to come by.

FAX

listopencil
12-12-2012, 03:55 PM
I don't know about all that but kicking the crap out of someone would certainly qualify as real bullying to me. Words on the internet, not so much.

Any child who's self-esteem is that low is certainly a refection of their parents ability to raise them as well. Huge failure.

Verbal bullying is real. Many children suffer from low self esteem. Teen socialization has been dramatically altered by electronic communication. Welcome to 2012. Don't nap too long. It's almost 2013.

Dayze
12-12-2012, 03:56 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view1/2159390/fat-kid-owns-bully-o.gif

listopencil
12-12-2012, 03:59 PM
Actually, napping until 2013 sounds like a great idea. Fuck. I'm old.

BIG_DADDY
12-12-2012, 04:04 PM
I don't disagree. It's pretty clear that parents can instill into a child the qualities that generally comprise self-esteem.

On the other hand, teen angst has always been around and depression is no respecter of status or intelligence or wealth or any of the things upon which most persons base their self-worth.

Having known several young persons who either committed suicide or self-destructed in other less dramatic ways simply due to an inability to function in normal society, I conclude that it's a very complex issue for which simple answers are hard to come by.

FAX

Yea well, there are a lot of really shitty parents out there. I agree that being rich, intelligent or having high social status has nothing to do with it. It's all about being a good parent and raising that child from a young age to have a solid boundaries and a good self-esteem. I can't tell you how many parents just work and let other people raise their kids. They don't even know them. How many of these cases do you see the parents say "I didn't even know they were upset"

FAX
12-12-2012, 04:07 PM
Yea well, there are a lot of really shitty parents out there. I agree that being rich, intelligent or having high social status has nothing to do with it. It's all about being a good parent and raising that child from a young age to have a solid boundaries and a good self-esteem. I can't tell you how many parents just work and let other people raise their kids. They don't even know them. How many of these cases do you see the parents say "I didn't even know they were upset"

I need to percolate on that one, Mr. BIG_DADDY.

As I mentioned, I've known several young people who chose suicide over the alternatives available to them. I need to reflect on whether or not the people around them (including parents) indicated at the time that they knew about their emotional problems. At the moment, I don't have a clear memory of that.

FAX

crazycoffey
12-12-2012, 04:09 PM
RIP Goatboy, we'll miss your videos.

Dayze
12-12-2012, 04:09 PM
serious question: were there as many teen suicides in the 50s/60s etc?

listopencil
12-12-2012, 04:13 PM
serious question: were there as many teen suicides in the 50s/60s etc?

http://cdclv.unlv.edu//healthnv/suicide.html

Suicide Among Children and Young Adults

A scourge by any measure, suicide is particularly devastating when it involves children, teenagers, and young adults. Consider this national data:


Suicide rates among adolescents and young adults in America nearly tripled between 1952 and 1996.
Between 1980 and 1996, suicide rates almost doubled among 14-15 year olds and rose by 14% in the 15-19 age group.

InChiefsHell
12-12-2012, 04:16 PM
serious question: were there as many teen suicides in the 50s/60s etc?

Were there as many teen pregnancies, drug addiction, DUI's and all that stuff in general in the 50's?

Lot's has changed and in some ways not for the better.

Dayze
12-12-2012, 04:16 PM
wow. I thought it would be a lot lower than that. thanks.

A Salt Weapon
12-12-2012, 05:41 PM
Clearly we should ban ropes. Maybe costas or shitlock can talk about that.
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GloryDayz
12-12-2012, 06:12 PM
She needed to join CP and toughen up a bit.

Bob Dole
12-12-2012, 06:15 PM
Social Darwinism in action.

Oh wait...would that be considered bullying?

BIG_DADDY
12-12-2012, 08:20 PM
http://cdclv.unlv.edu//healthnv/suicide.html

Suicide Among Children and Young Adults

A scourge by any measure, suicide is particularly devastating when it involves children, teenagers, and young adults. Consider this national data:


Suicide rates among adolescents and young adults in America nearly tripled between 1952 and 1996.
Between 1980 and 1996, suicide rates almost doubled among 14-15 year olds and rose by 14% in the 15-19 age group.


Those are some amazing numbers. I had no idea it was that high.

Garcia Bronco
12-12-2012, 08:25 PM
Were there as many teen pregnancies, drug addiction, DUI's and all that stuff in general in the 50's?

Lot's has changed and in some ways not for the better.

People didn't blast that out either, probably because of the shame. The globe shrinks everyday.

stevieray
12-12-2012, 08:41 PM
reading the replies just confirms why these kinds of things happen to young adults.

BIG_DADDY
12-12-2012, 08:44 PM
I need to percolate on that one, Mr. BIG_DADDY.

As I mentioned, I've known several young people who chose suicide over the alternatives available to them. I need to reflect on whether or not the people around them (including parents) indicated at the time that they knew about their emotional problems. At the moment, I don't have a clear memory of that.

FAX

I am far from an expert on suicide but I seem to remember seeing this in articles written after bullying. The one thing I am aware of is the shitty parenting. IT never ceases to amaze me the emphasis so many parents have on making money and how little they have on building their child and really knowing them.

Dayze
12-12-2012, 08:51 PM
or let the kids beat the living piss out of bullies w/out fear of lawsuit.

GloryDayz
12-12-2012, 10:23 PM
or let the kids beat the living piss out of bullies w/out fear of lawsuit.

This... Still funny as hell!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/mEqniEvNcnk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

JD10367
12-12-2012, 10:54 PM
Killing yourself is never the answer.

Killing the people who are bothering you is.

Brock
12-12-2012, 11:00 PM
Were there as many teen pregnancies, drug addiction, DUI's and all that stuff in general in the 50's?

Lot's has changed and in some ways not for the better.

There were a lot fewer people back then, so no.

J Diddy
12-12-2012, 11:41 PM
I don't know about all that but kicking the crap out of someone would certainly qualify as real bullying to me. Words on the internet, not so much.

Any child who's self-esteem is that low is certainly a refection of their parents ability to raise them as well. Huge failure.

You're a man. You're going to view it like that. Think about what every young lady wants in high school vs what every young guy wants in a social setting.

A guy wants to be perceived as tough and women want the popularity etc.

Seems to me the most embarrassing times in high school are the ones that made me look weak (looking back now, not so much) because they hit what was important to me.

J Diddy
12-12-2012, 11:42 PM
This... Still funny as hell!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/mEqniEvNcnk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I loved it the first time I see it.

In fact my favorite scene in all moviedom is the Christmas Story when Ralphie gets on top of that bully.

KILLER_CLOWN
12-12-2012, 11:49 PM
This... Still funny as hell!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/mEqniEvNcnk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ya that's awesome, He should have decked his friend at the end too.

cabletech94
12-12-2012, 11:59 PM
I loved it the first time I see it.

In fact my favorite scene in all moviedom is the Christmas Story when Ralphie gets on top of that bully.

just watched this 3 times.

bitches get stitches!!

that little punk hopefully has 100 more beatdowns in his young life.

NJChiefsFan
12-13-2012, 05:17 AM
I don't disagree. It's pretty clear that parents can instill into a child the qualities that generally comprise self-esteem.

On the other hand, teen angst has always been around and depression is no respecter of status or intelligence or wealth or any of the things upon which most persons base their self-worth.

Having known several young persons who either committed suicide or self-destructed in other less dramatic ways simply due to an inability to function in normal society, I conclude that it's a very complex issue for which simple answers are hard to come by.

FAX

I would say this is obvious but people make comments constantly that apparently makes this anything but obvious.

Saulbadguy
12-13-2012, 07:52 AM
Were there as many teen pregnancies, drug addiction, DUI's and all that stuff in general in the 50's?

Lot's has changed and in some ways not for the better.

I think there are less now, per capita, especially since things like that were swept under the rug back then.

bevischief
12-13-2012, 08:17 AM
reading the replies just confirms why these kinds of things happen to young adults.

Yep.

BIG_DADDY
12-13-2012, 08:27 AM
You're a man. You're going to view it like that. Think about what every young lady wants in high school vs what every young guy wants in a social setting.

A guy wants to be perceived as tough and women want the popularity etc.

Seems to me the most embarrassing times in high school are the ones that made me look weak (looking back now, not so much) because they hit what was important to me.

Believe you me I get the whole social status dealio when it comes to women. Getting physically beat down on a regular basis still has to be worse IMO. THis still comes down to parenting either way. Boundaries, a healthy self-esteem and even learning how to deal with social dynamics are all things they can learn from parents who are actually active in their life.

WhiteWhale
12-13-2012, 08:49 AM
IMO the parents are to blame way more than anyone else. We have all seen the bullying process but nobody was offing themself. It was real bullying too not words on a friggen computer.

Please describe 'real bullying'.

InChiefsHell
12-13-2012, 09:27 AM
I think there are less now, per capita, especially since things like that were swept under the rug back then.

I'm not going to look up the data, but you seriously think that the amount of teenage pregnancy and STD's and such was MORE back than than it is now? Since we're just talking opinions here, I have to respectfully disagree. yes, things were not talked about and pushed under the rug, but I'd say in an era of permissiveness and acceptance, it just stands to reason that this type of thing is much more prevalent now than back in the 50's.

Just my opinion.

Scrawny Armed Alex Smith
12-13-2012, 09:30 AM
I have to wonder why she kept logging back onto it.


This :thumb:

stevenidol
12-13-2012, 09:35 AM
Believe you me I get the whole social status dealio when it comes to women. Getting physically beat down on a regular basis still has to be worse IMO. THis still comes down to parenting either way. Boundaries, a healthy self-esteem and even learning how to deal with social dynamics are all things they can learn from parents who are actually active in their life.

Emotional abuse has far greater impact on human psyche than physical, especially at a young age when their coping mechanisms are not established.

Pushead2
12-13-2012, 09:41 AM
Actually, napping until 2013 sounds like a great idea. ****. I'm old.

I'm young and that sounds great.

BIG_DADDY
12-13-2012, 10:33 AM
Emotional abuse has far greater impact on human psyche than physical, especially at a young age when their coping mechanisms are not established.

Once again establishing boundaries is a job the P's should have been working on. I am not saying it's not bullying, I just believe that adding the physical component make it worse. To say emotional abuse is far greater is ridiculous. It's not like physical abuse comes without the emotional bullying component. To imply that is ridiculous.

Saulbadguy
12-13-2012, 11:56 AM
I'm not going to look up the data, but you seriously think that the amount of teenage pregnancy and STD's and such was MORE back than than it is now? Since we're just talking opinions here, I have to respectfully disagree. yes, things were not talked about and pushed under the rug, but I'd say in an era of permissiveness and acceptance, it just stands to reason that this type of thing is much more prevalent now than back in the 50's.

Just my opinion.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/12/1082791/-Teen-Pregnancy-Rates-Drop-to-Lowest-Levels-in-Recorded-History#

A new study published by the CDC show that teen pregnancy levels have dropped to the lowest level since they began recording data back in the 1940s. But, that is a general statistic, an average of all the states.

Who knows how accurate it is, but I don't have a hard time believing it.

Acceptance and permissiveness has lead to education and awareness.

FAX
12-13-2012, 01:07 PM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/12/1082791/-Teen-Pregnancy-Rates-Drop-to-Lowest-Levels-in-Recorded-History#



Who knows how accurate it is, but I don't have a hard time believing it.

Acceptance and permissiveness has lead to education and awareness.

That is actually a very peculiar statistic. It kind of sounds like one of those deals where you have to drill down into the data to reveal what is really happening. Maybe the overall pregnancy rate is down due to the prevalence of government-sponsored birth control or something.

FAX

Rausch
12-13-2012, 01:07 PM
Anyone else remember the days when there were real bullies?

You'd start walking home and some guy 2x your size would just fucking beat the $#it out of you?

Now THAT sucked...

crazycoffey
12-13-2012, 01:22 PM
Anyone else remember the days when there were real bullies?

You'd start walking home and some guy 2x your size would just fucking beat the $#it out of you?

Now THAT sucked...



Now days the bullies do your math homework for you, do it wrong on purpose. The humanity....

FAX
12-13-2012, 01:31 PM
Anyone else remember the days when there were real bullies?

You'd start walking home and some guy 2x your size would just ****ing beat the $#it out of you?

Now THAT sucked...

It was nothing like medieval times, though, Mr. Rausch.

Back then, you could be innocently purchasing a chicken from the local chicken vendor and the next thing you know a gang of thugs in green, pointy hats have you spread eagle on a Spanish Donkey with a hot iron shoved up your ass.

FAX

Rausch
12-13-2012, 01:33 PM
It was nothing like medieval times, though, Mr. Rausch.

Back then, you could be innocently purchasing a chicken from the local chicken vendor and the next thing you know a gang of thugs in green, pointy hats have you spread eagle on a Spanish Donkey with a hot iron shoved up your ass.

FAX

Yet, somehow, you made it through...

FAX
12-13-2012, 01:34 PM
Yet, somehow, you made it through...

It's about 80% mental.

FAX

|Zach|
12-13-2012, 01:35 PM
I'm not going to look up the data, blah blah blah

And in another thread...

I haven't read all that stuff nor do I intend to. My guess is

You love not knowing things before you talk about them.

Rausch
12-13-2012, 01:35 PM
It's about 80% mental.

FAX

LMAO




And I thought I had you there...

InChiefsHell
12-13-2012, 03:07 PM
And in another thread...



You love not knowing things before you talk about them.

Point taken. But sometimes I just want to offer a general opinion. And yeah, I'm getting tired of arguing. I admit that it's not the smartest time for me to be posting.

Sorry.

listopencil
12-13-2012, 03:32 PM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/12/1082791/-Teen-Pregnancy-Rates-Drop-to-Lowest-Levels-in-Recorded-History#



Who knows how accurate it is, but I don't have a hard time believing it.

Acceptance and permissiveness has lead to education and awareness.

I have read the article. I have looked at the charts. I have studied the statistics. I have come to a conclusion. Given that I had a vasectomy done after my last kid was born, I should be out having sex with chubby, poor, uneducated, Republican teen girls. For the good of the country. Go ahead and line them up. For America.