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ChiefsandO'sfan
12-12-2012, 10:49 AM
Todd McShay ‏@McShay13

http://es.pn/XTcpqq First Mock Draft of the pre-draft process. Only 1 QB and he's not going to KC. Have at it...




Kansas City Chiefs

Record: 2-11
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

This might turn out to be a simple case of bad luck for the Chiefs. They're a year too late to cash in on the Andrew Luck/Robert Griffin III bonanza, and there doesn't appear to be a 2013 quarterback prospect worthy of the No. 1 overall pick. I would have to think West Virginia's Geno Smith would be the choice over USC's Matt Barkley if the Chiefs go that direction, but at this point I think they go elsewhere. Kansas City already has spent first-round picks on the likes of Tyson Jackson and Dontari Poe, but needs a defensive tackle who can hold ground while also providing more pass-rush ability. Lotulelei will never be an elite pass-rusher, but he is strong against the run and has the quickness and power to collapse the pocket. He could become a mainstay in the middle and be good for five to seven sacks per year.

Dayze
12-12-2012, 10:50 AM
lol;; maybe we can have 11 players on defense that were 1st round picks.

Mr. Flopnuts
12-12-2012, 10:51 AM
ROFL If we draft that guy after taking Poe last year, I'll swallow a bullet.

AndChiefs
12-12-2012, 10:51 AM
About time someone agreed. We don't have enough first round picks on the d-line.

Bowser
12-12-2012, 10:51 AM
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Fritz88
12-12-2012, 10:51 AM
Cunty draft

The Rick
12-12-2012, 10:51 AM
ROFL :popcorn:

AndChiefs
12-12-2012, 10:52 AM
And if that doesn't work out...we can always draft LT Luke Joeckel from A&M. That's our other mainstay for mock drafts right?

Dayze
12-12-2012, 10:52 AM
McShay has been huffing his own poop.

bsp4444
12-12-2012, 10:53 AM
Trade back...then take Glennon who will be a mid first rounder by then.

stonedstooge
12-12-2012, 10:53 AM
Todd McShay ‏@McShay13

http://es.pn/XTcpqq First Mock Draft of the pre-draft process. Only 1 QB and he's not going to KC. Have at it...




Kansas City Chiefs

Record: 2-11
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

This might turn out to be a simple case of bad luck for the Chiefs. They're a year too late to cash in on the Andrew Luck/Robert Griffin III bonanza, and there doesn't appear to be a 2013 quarterback prospect worthy of the No. 1 overall pick. I would have to think West Virginia's Geno Smith would be the choice over USC's Matt Barkley if the Chiefs go that direction, but at this point I think they go elsewhere. Kansas City already has spent first-round picks on the likes of Tyson Jackson and Dontari Poe, but needs a defensive tackle who can hold ground while also providing more pass-rush ability. Lotulelei will never be an elite pass-rusher, but he is strong against the run and has the quickness and power to collapse the pocket. He could become a mainstay in the middle and be good for five to seven sacks per year.

JIMP/Pisoli

ILChief
12-12-2012, 10:53 AM
Our offense is great, lets improve the d

siberian khatru
12-12-2012, 10:54 AM
No, seriously, THIS ONE's gonna be the guy! Promise! /matt millen

Dayze
12-12-2012, 10:54 AM
guys guys guys. .....Defense wins championships.

Detoxing
12-12-2012, 10:54 AM
Todd McShay ‏@McShay13

http://es.pn/XTcpqq First Mock Draft of the pre-draft process. Only 1 QB and he's not going to KC. Have at it...




Kansas City Chiefs

Record: 2-11
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

This might turn out to be a simple case of bad luck for the Chiefs. They're a year too late to cash in on the Andrew Luck/Robert Griffin III bonanza, and there doesn't appear to be a 2013 quarterback prospect worthy of the No. 1 overall pick. I would have to think West Virginia's Geno Smith would be the choice over USC's Matt Barkley if the Chiefs go that direction, but at this point I think they go elsewhere. Kansas City already has spent first-round picks on the likes of Tyson Jackson and Dontari Poe, but needs a defensive tackle who can hold ground while also providing more pass-rush ability. Lotulelei will never be an elite pass-rusher, but he is strong against the run and has the quickness and power to collapse the pocket. He could become a mainstay in the middle and be good for five to seven sacks per year.

I have never seen so much fail in one article.

So....we're apparently in need of a DT that can pass rush......so we draft a DT that will never be an elite pass rusher?

Seems legit.

Sorter
12-12-2012, 10:54 AM
Todd McShay ‏@McShay13

http://es.pn/XTcpqq First Mock Draft of the pre-draft process. Only 1 QB and he's not going to KC. Have at it...




Kansas City Chiefs

Record: 2-11
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

This might turn out to be a simple case of bad luck for the Chiefs. They're a year too late to cash in on the Andrew Luck/Robert Griffin III bonanza, and there doesn't appear to be a 2013 quarterback prospect worthy of the No. 1 overall pick. I would have to think West Virginia's Geno Smith would be the choice over USC's Matt Barkley if the Chiefs go that direction, but at this point I think they go elsewhere. Kansas City already has spent first-round picks on the likes of Tyson Jackson and Dontari Poe, but needs a defensive tackle who can hold ground while also providing more pass-rush ability.


...wait for it...

Lotulelei will never be an elite pass-rusher, but he is strong against the run and has the quickness and power to collapse the pocket. He could become a mainstay in the middle and be good for five to seven sacks per year.



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ILChief
12-12-2012, 10:54 AM
So what QB does he have going in round one and to what team?

BCD
12-12-2012, 10:55 AM
Why do these fucking retards think so little of Geno Smith?

Is it because RG3 and Luck are so good?

Detoxing
12-12-2012, 10:55 AM
ROFL If we draft that guy after taking Poe last year, I'll swallow a bullet.

I always thought you were spitter.....

Reerun_KC
12-12-2012, 10:55 AM
McShay needs to go full on Belcher himself for this shit...

Detoxing
12-12-2012, 10:56 AM
Why do these ****ing retards think so little of Geno Smith?

Is it because RG3 and Luck are so good?

It's because they didn't do it consistently enough, therefore they are considered talented projects.

BCD
12-12-2012, 10:56 AM
Trade back...then take Glennon who will be a mid first rounder by then.

:spock:

Rudy lost the toss
12-12-2012, 10:56 AM
Fuck this shit. No reason to be optimistic even after the draft. Geno or Milliner/Wilson (2/trade up) might be the best case scenario and it still kind of sucks.

BigCatDaddy
12-12-2012, 10:58 AM
So what QB does he have going in round one and to what team?

Smith #8 to the Cards. No other QB's in the 1st.

siberian khatru
12-12-2012, 10:59 AM
Smith #8 to the Cards. No other QB's in the 1st.

That's just ...

Sorter
12-12-2012, 10:59 AM
Trade back...then take Glennon who will be a mid first rounder by then.

http://i43.tinypic.com/16h3rbq.jpg

SNR
12-12-2012, 11:00 AM
Hey, at least he didn't mock Te'o to us

ILChief
12-12-2012, 11:01 AM
If it were to fall that way we would luck out getting Wilson in round 2. No way that happens though

Pitt Gorilla
12-12-2012, 11:01 AM
Yeah, no.

ILChief
12-12-2012, 11:01 AM
Hey, at least he didn't mock Te'o to us

I would rather draft teo

Dayze
12-12-2012, 11:02 AM
"How 'bout 'no'" / Dr. Evil

SNR
12-12-2012, 11:03 AM
I'm convinced these fucktards only project sexy picks to teams that they like.

"Larry Fitz deserves a real QB, so he gets Geno... Ohhh, but then I gotta wait all the way until #8 when he goes off the board... can I predict a trade up? No, not this early. Shit. Uhh.... well, I guess Kansas City can take another defensive lineman. I don't think they've picked any of those in awhile. Cleveland will take an offensive tackle. Yeah, they need a lunch pail kind of guy to stabilize that offense, yes, good. Umm... okay, I think I can make this work. Excellent! Geno Smith to Larry Fitz! Sexy!"

TEX
12-12-2012, 11:03 AM
Pretty typical that when the Chiefs FINALLY get the # 1 pick in the draft - there is no "can't miss" QBOTF...

Rudy lost the toss
12-12-2012, 11:04 AM
2010 was the worst thing to ever happen to this franchise. Everything got pushed back a year and we miss out on Luck/RGIII

Fuck You JAMAAL, HALI, and the NFC WEST!

BCD
12-12-2012, 11:04 AM
Smith #8 to the Cards. No other QB's in the 1st.

Todd is a fucking dipshit

Detoxing
12-12-2012, 11:05 AM
Everytime i read anything from McShay or The Hair, i always have to ask my self who are these player's agents and how close are they with McShay and Kiper.

Brock
12-12-2012, 11:05 AM
Pretty typical that when the Chiefs FINALLY get the # 1 pick in the draft - there is no "can't miss" QBOTF...

How many times in the past 20 years has there been a "can't miss" QB?

BigCatDaddy
12-12-2012, 11:06 AM
That's just ...

By March he will have 3 or 4 QB's in the 1st "after watching more tape".

Mr. Laz
12-12-2012, 11:06 AM
ROFL If we draft that guy after taking Poe last year, I'll swallow a bullet.
so there is an upside ...

Rudy lost the toss
12-12-2012, 11:06 AM
I'm convinced these ****tards only project sexy picks to teams that they like.

"Larry Fitz deserves a real QB, so he gets Geno... Ohhh, but then I gotta wait all the way until #8 when he goes off the board... can I predict a trade up? No, not this early. Shit. Uhh.... well, I guess Kansas City can take another defensive lineman. I don't think they've picked any of those in awhile. Cleveland will take an offensive tackle. Yeah, they need a lunch pail kind of guy to stabilize that offense, yes, good. Umm... okay, I think I can make this work. Excellent! Geno Smith to Larry Fitz! Sexy!"

Geno isn't terrible but I think he will be a YPA abortion.

Molitoth
12-12-2012, 11:07 AM
Basically Todd McShay knows Scott Pioli is a giant dumbf*ck.

His mock is probably true if Pioli is here.

Deberg_1990
12-12-2012, 11:07 AM
Sadly, if Pioli stays, im not convinced he would take a QB. He would probably do something like this.

SNR
12-12-2012, 11:07 AM
Pretty typical that when the Chiefs FINALLY get the # 1 pick in the draft - there is no "can't miss" QBOTF...
I'll wager that if I searched for a rundown of your posts, a form of what you just wrote would take up more than 50% of everything you've posted since the season started.

Seriously. Shut the fuck up.

Mr. Laz
12-12-2012, 11:08 AM
Geno isn't terrible but I think he will be a YPA abortion.huh?

Throwing the deep ball is what Smith does best ... if his YPA is terrible it would be because our receivers are slow as shit, not him.

SNR
12-12-2012, 11:08 AM
Geno isn't terrible but I think he will be a YPA abortion.

You DO realize he's not going to be running the Air Raid in the NFL, right?

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 11:09 AM
How many times in the past 20 years has there been a "can't miss" QB?

Exactly.

Mr. Laz
12-12-2012, 11:09 AM
Basically Todd McShay knows Scott Pioli is a giant dumb****.

His mock is probably true if Pioli is here.
there isn't a QB going in the top 5 so ....

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 11:09 AM
Geno isn't terrible but I think he will be a YPA abortion.

Yeah, because a guy that can put the ball in small windows and allow his WRs to make a play after the catch is always an "abortion".

Rudy lost the toss
12-12-2012, 11:10 AM
huh?

Throwing the deep ball is what Smith does best ... if his YPA is terrible it would be because our receivers are slow as shit, not him.

I don't think he likes to pull the trigger down field. Just my impression of him

Coogs
12-12-2012, 11:10 AM
A DT who has no pass rush.

Better order your season tickets now. If you wait until the commish announces this, you might be too late. Tickets are going to go fast. Stadium will be sold out by the time day 2 of the draft rolls around.

mdchiefsfan
12-12-2012, 11:10 AM
I swear to God........

Dayze
12-12-2012, 11:10 AM
so this guy is basically Glen Dorsey.

sweet.

bevischief
12-12-2012, 11:11 AM
JFC...

Mr. Laz
12-12-2012, 11:12 AM
I don't think he likes to pull the trigger down field. Just my impression of him
i take it that you haven't watch him much?


Dropping the ball in a bucket on the deep ball IS his best elite skill.

suds79
12-12-2012, 11:12 AM
Those stands would have 13,000 people in them if this were to happen.

:cuss:

Idiots thinking that you can take a DT #1 overall. Give me a freaking break.

Sorter
12-12-2012, 11:12 AM
Geno + PA w/ Charles and Cyrus hopefully developing plus hopefully Bowe + our OL= Rape for a rookie QB.

Dayze
12-12-2012, 11:13 AM
never trust a guy named Todd.

Sorter
12-12-2012, 11:14 AM
I don't think he likes to pull the trigger down field. Just my impression of him

http://i.imgur.com/m00lr.gif

http://i.imgur.com/mSm0b.gif

Really struggles throwing down the field.

Bowser
12-12-2012, 11:14 AM
Can he play QB?

Can he play WR?

Can he play free safety?


TO THE SHITTER!!
http://www.motherjones.com/files/imagecache/colorbox-large/photoessays/out-house-toilet.jpg

Great Expectations
12-12-2012, 11:15 AM
Smith in the first and Austin in the second.

Sorter
12-12-2012, 11:16 AM
Smith in the first and Austin in the second.

It is really sad we wasted a 2nd and a 4th on the same position (but much better) as Austin.

LoneWolf
12-12-2012, 11:17 AM
I don't think he likes to pull the trigger down field. Just my impression of him

Well, I think you are a one who sucks the penis. That's the impression I get.:D

Mr. Laz
12-12-2012, 11:19 AM
Smith in the first and Austin in the second.
kinda what i'm thinking

Bowe,Austin,DMC,Baldwin
Geno Smith
Charles

The 2 shrimps in the slots (mostly in motion) and Charles in a single back would make for a pretty potent formation. Especially if our new offense coordinator would make sure that the offense is ready to handle the blitz.

the Talking Can
12-12-2012, 11:28 AM
i will kill EVERYONE

Dayze
12-12-2012, 11:30 AM
reported.

Mr. Laz
12-12-2012, 11:32 AM
i will kill EVERYONE
as long as you start with yourself

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 11:33 AM
This just makes the GM/HC hire that much more important.

We have to make sure we get somebody that values, maybe even overvalues, the QB.

the Talking Can
12-12-2012, 11:35 AM
as long as you start with yourself

what's it like wearing panties all day?

Sorter
12-12-2012, 11:37 AM
:)what's it like wearing panties all day?

Bump
12-12-2012, 11:37 AM
This article is valid.

But only because Pioli hasn't been fired yet.

siberian khatru
12-12-2012, 11:39 AM
FWIW, the last time in this QB-hungry league that fewer than 2 QBs went in the first round was 2001 (Vick No. 1 overall).

The last time the first QB taken was 8th or lower: 2000 (Chad Pennington, 18th).

Marcellus
12-12-2012, 11:48 AM
By the time the combine is doen the whole draft will change.

ChiefsCountry
12-12-2012, 11:50 AM
Packers traded us Aaron Rodgers for our second in this mock draft. About the only excpetable reason for taking Star in the first.

Reerun_KC
12-12-2012, 11:50 AM
I don't think he likes to pull the trigger down field. Just my impression of him

I wish your mom would of pulled the trigger... Would of saved us from these abortion posts of yours...

Sorter
12-12-2012, 11:52 AM
I don't think he likes to pull the trigger down field. Just my impression of him

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww85/Buster_Jaimen/negged.gif

SNR
12-12-2012, 12:01 PM
Packers traded us Aaron Rodgers for our second in this mock draft. About the only excpetable reason for taking Star in the first.
I SAID NO TEDFORD QBS, GOD DAMN IT

Deberg_1990
12-12-2012, 12:05 PM
This just makes the GM/HC hire that much more important.

We have to make sure we get somebody that values, maybe even overvalues, the QB.

*cough*Bill Polian*cough*

Coogs
12-12-2012, 12:14 PM
Packers traded us Aaron Rodgers for our second in this mock draft. About the only excpetable reason for taking Star in the first.

My guess is they are going to try and pin us with Alex Smith for our 2nd round pick.

Now considering Alex Smith could have been had for nothing last Spring when he was a FA(or whatever he was), and Manning was flirting with the 69ers... :shake:

Sorter
12-12-2012, 12:16 PM
My guess is they are going to try and pin us with Alex Smith for our 2nd round pick.

Now considering Alex Smith could have been had for nothing last Spring when he was a FA(or whatever he was), and Manning was flirting with the 69ers... :shake:

Chad Henne would have been an adequate backup. That guy Orton could have been a good stop-gap too.

Coogs
12-12-2012, 12:22 PM
Chad Henne would have been an adequate backup. That guy Orton could have been a good stop-gap too.

That's not the point I am making (or trying to make). If we trade for Alex Smith this year... that is just stupid. How can he be worth a draft pick this year, when he was benched... and not be worth bringing in last season to compete with Cassel when he was a free agent, and providing competition for Cassel was high on Pioli's priority list?

If that is the way we roll... :banghead:

Chiefs Pantalones
12-12-2012, 12:22 PM
You know, we all joke around and stuff. But do people realize that the chances that we DON'T draft a QB with our first round pick are kind of up there? Depending on who is our GM, yes, but even with a new GM I could see us passing on selecting a QB with our pick, whether it's #1 overall or not.

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 12:25 PM
You know, we all joke around and stuff. But do people realize that the chances that we DON'T draft a QB with our first round pick are kind of up there? Depending on who is our GM, yes, but even with a new GM I could us passing on selecting a QB with our pick, whether it's #1 overall or not.

If we have the #1 pick, we're gonna take a QB. To NOT take a QB would be like the 3rd time in the last 15 years that a team took something other than a QB with the #1 pick.

BCD
12-12-2012, 12:26 PM
You know, we all joke around and stuff. But do people realize that the chances that we DON'T draft a QB with our first round pick are kind of up there? Depending on who is our GM, yes, but even with a new GM I could us passing on selecting a QB with our pick, whether it's #1 overall or not.

Whoever the GM is, he better try like hell to trade down if they do not want to take a QB #1.

Taking a DT or ILB #1 would piss me off to no end.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-12-2012, 12:29 PM
If we have the #1 pick, we're gonna take a QB. To NOT take a QB would be like the 3rd time in the last 15 years that a team took something other than a QB with the #1 pick.

That's up to the Chiefs and their personnel people. What if they agree with the scouts, etc.? What if they think a QB this year being picked #1 is crazy?

Even at #2 or #3 and they don't pick one, what happens?

the Talking Can
12-12-2012, 12:31 PM
That's up to the Chiefs and their personnel people. What if they agree with the scouts, etc.? What if they think a QB this year being picked #1 is crazy?

Even at #2 or #3 and they don't pick one, what happens?

another wasted decade

it really is that simple

Chiefs Pantalones
12-12-2012, 12:32 PM
I'm not saying I think that drafting a QB high in the draft is stupid, I agree with drafting one. It should have been done decades ago. I'm just trying to be devil's advocate here. As Chiefs fans we all know that what is obvious doesn't always go hand in hand with our team.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-12-2012, 12:33 PM
another wasted decade

it really is that simple

Pretty much.

Pray.

Hoover
12-12-2012, 12:36 PM
Does anyone remember those draft commercials that showed the Texans without an offensive line or something like that. We need one without a QB...

I don't understand why everyone is so down on Geno. People were down on McNabb too, and I'd love to draft a player like that.

-King-
12-12-2012, 12:38 PM
That's a brutal top 5 LMAO

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 12:38 PM
That's up to the Chiefs and their personnel people. What if they agree with the scouts, etc.? What if they think a QB this year being picked #1 is crazy?

Even at #2 or #3 and they don't pick one, what happens?

Doesn't matter to me. I won't be a fan anymore.

unnecessary drama
12-12-2012, 12:39 PM
We take anything at #1 that isn't a QB and I'm done.

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 12:41 PM
We take anything at #1 that isn't a QB and I'm done.

Yep.

Deberg_1990
12-12-2012, 12:42 PM
You know, we all joke around and stuff. But do people realize that the chances that we DON'T draft a QB with our first round pick are kind of up there? Depending on who is our GM, yes, but even with a new GM I could see us passing on selecting a QB with our pick, whether it's #1 overall or not.

If we have the #1 pick, we're gonna take a QB. To NOT take a QB would be like the 3rd time in the last 15 years that a team took something other than a QB with the #1 pick.

Yes it is conceivable that even a new GM wouldn’t take a QB with the pick. Pioli didn’t in 2009 and we needed one then too.

BCD
12-12-2012, 12:42 PM
If Pioli is here next year, he trades for Alex Smith, and drafts Star or Teo #1.

True Fans ejaculate

BCD
12-12-2012, 12:43 PM
Pioli didn’t in 2009 and we needed one then too.He already traded for Cassel.

Pioli has proven to be an idiot.

Hoover
12-12-2012, 12:45 PM
Yes it is conceivable that even a new GM wouldn’t take a QB with the pick. Pioli didn’t in 2009 and we needed one then too.
Pioli addressed the QB situation before the 2009 draft, it just didn't work out.

Deberg_1990
12-12-2012, 12:45 PM
He already traded for Cassel.

Pioli has proven to be an idiot.

Thats what i mean. A new GM could do the same thing.

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 12:45 PM
Yes it is conceivable that even a new GM wouldn’t take a QB with the pick. Pioli didn’t in 2009 and we needed one then too.

That was the #3 pick, not the #1 pick.

If we would have had the #1 pick in 2009, Matthew Stafford would be our QB right now.

Chief_For_Life58
12-12-2012, 12:47 PM
I have never seen so much fail in one article.

So....we're apparently in need of a DT that can pass rush......so we draft a DT that will never be an elite pass rusher?

Seems legit.

jesus fucking christmas. " never will be elite" ? why the fuck would we draft someone top 5 who doesnt have the possibility of being elite? & the fact weve drafted dl with our first pick for like the past 25 years. I cant take this. its like all these draft jerkoffs dont even research the chiefs when making a choice for us

Hoover
12-12-2012, 12:48 PM
There is nobody to trade for like 2009. In 2009, getting Cassel was a big deal, and we got him for a steal. That move and the contract that followed was a joke. There isn't a "Matt Cassel" out there this year. Where is the backup who is lighting the world on fire that would command a trade. Frankly if they want to sign Alex Smith to a two year deal I'm fine with that so long as we drafted a QB in the 1st round. Like it or not, this team needs multiple QBs.

Hoover
12-12-2012, 12:50 PM
And if we were not to draft a QB (which would be stupid IMO), I'd rather draft a CB or DE instead of a ILB, which isn't a big need. We can upgrade ILB in FA or in the middle of the draft.

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 12:54 PM
And if we were not to draft a QB (which would be stupid IMO), I'd rather draft a CB or DE instead of a ILB, which isn't a big need. We can upgrade ILB in FA or in the middle of the draft.

There's isn't a CB or DE really worth the #1 overall pick either. MAYBE Damontre Moore at DE or Milliner at CB but that's about it.

Molitoth
12-12-2012, 12:55 PM
I cant take this. its like all these draft jerkoffs dont even research the chiefs when making a choice for us

Calm down. Don't be mad at Mcshay... all he is doing is looking at the previous Chiefs drafts and mocking what he sees is a pattern, which is passing on QB's and picking up Dline. I wouldn't be anymore surprised of it was an LSU player.
Take your frustration out on the retard making the draft picks, not mocking them.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-12-2012, 12:55 PM
If Pioli is here next year, he trades for Alex Smith, and drafts Star or Teo #1.

True Fans ejaculate


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htismaqe
12-12-2012, 12:56 PM
Calm down. Don't be mad at Mcshay... all he is doing is looking at the previous Chiefs drafts and mocking what he sees is a pattern, which is passing on QB's and picking up Dline. I wouldn't be anymore surprised of it was an LSU player.
Take your frustration out on the retard making the draft picks, not mocking them.

Say hello to Sam Montgomery!

Deberg_1990
12-12-2012, 01:00 PM
Looks like 2008 was the last time a QB did not go #1 overall.


IN retrospect, Matt Ryan should have been, because Miami selected Jake Long over him and where has that gotten them?

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-12-2012, 01:00 PM
By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com


1. Kansas City: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

My take: We all know the Chiefs need a quarterback badly and we all know there are no great quarterback choices available at the top of the draft. So, this pick works. He would be another fine player on a potentially good defense. Perhaps the Chiefs could find a bridge veteran quarterback and take someone like North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon in the second round.



ESPN just trolling now.

Rudy lost the toss
12-12-2012, 01:01 PM
Jones, Moore, or Milliner are definitely tempting. The true fan in me wants to trade back into first for QB

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 01:02 PM
By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com


1. Kansas City: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

My take: We all know the Chiefs need a quarterback badly and we all know there are no great quarterback choices available at the top of the draft. So, this pick works. He would be another fine player on a potentially good defense. Perhaps the Chiefs could find a bridge veteran quarterback and take someone like North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon in the second round.

ESPN just trolling now.

Yeah, it appears the guys at ESPN are trying to prop up Kiper and McShay's idea that there aren't any elite QBs in this draft.

Toeing the company line, so to speak.

CoMoChief
12-12-2012, 01:02 PM
So wish we sucked this bad last season.

We'd be sitting pretty w/ Andrew Luck right now.

Romeo and Daboll wouldn't be HC/OC.

DeezNutz
12-12-2012, 01:04 PM
Jones, Moore, or Milliner are definitely tempting. The true fan in me wants to trade back into first for QB

This isn't True Fan. Not anywhere close. Actually, it's being very aggressive, but there isn't a talent after the top 2 guys to justify this type of play.

Worst-case scenario: draft Barkley.
Likely scenario: we draft Smith or Wilson .

Next move: profit.

Deberg_1990
12-12-2012, 01:05 PM
Jones, Moore, or Milliner are definitely tempting. The true fan in me wants to trade back into first for QB

You have to have a partner and it appears this is a weaker draft with players that no one truly "covets"

CoMoChief
12-12-2012, 01:06 PM
If the scouts aren't hot on Geno Smith or this Glennon guy (haven't watched him play at all this year - never really even heard of him before today actually)

And if they think they will both drop to 2nd round, then you take them in the 2nd rd.

What I don't want to happen...is that we take a QB #1 just because we have the #1 overall pick. Yes it is the most important position and we BADLY need one, but there isn't a RGIII or a Andrew Luck coming out of this draft.

I don't know if there really is a clear #1 pick at this point. There are a lot of guys are IMO are in the 5-10 range, but nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick IMO. Just like 2009, IMO it's going to hard as fuck to trade down and KC is going to end up reaching again.

DeezNutz
12-12-2012, 01:07 PM
Wait, is he wanting to move back in the draft, or trade back into the first for a QB? I thought the latter and responded in kind.

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 01:08 PM
What I don't want to happen...is that we take a QB #1 just because we have the #1 overall pick. Yes it is the most important position and we BADLY need one, but there isn't a RGIII or a Andrew Luck coming out of this draft.

I don't know if there really is a clear #1 pick at this point. There are a lot of guys are IMO are in the 5-10 range, but nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick IMO. Just like 2009, IMO it's going to hard as **** to trade down and KC is going to end up reaching again.

Yeah, it sure would suck to pick a guy 8-10 slots too high and HAVE a QB vs. not taking one, trading down, or otherwise take a chance that we get NOBODY AND HAVE NO QB going into next year.

JFC. :rolleyes:

DeezNutz
12-12-2012, 01:09 PM
Just sitting, and waiting, and hoping, and praying...

Rudy lost the toss
12-12-2012, 01:11 PM
I want to draft Jones/Moore/Milliner and pass on Smith but trade into first round for Wilson or Barkley at some reasonable point.

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 01:13 PM
I want to draft Jones/Moore/Milliner and pass on Smith but trade into first round for Wilson or Barkley at some reasonable point.

And if that plan fails?

You end up without a QB.

No fucking way.

BigCatDaddy
12-12-2012, 01:15 PM
I love how all the true fans glossed over that he had RG3 going 11th and Tannehill out of the top 25 this time last year.

BCD
12-12-2012, 01:16 PM
What I don't want to happen...is that we take a QB #1 just because we have the #1 overall pick. Yes it is the most important position and we BADLY need one, but there isn't a RGIII or a Andrew Luck coming out of this draft.

I don't know if there really is a clear #1 pick at this point. There are a lot of guys are IMO are in the 5-10 range, but nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick IMO. Just like 2009, IMO it's going to hard as fuck to trade down and KC is going to end up reaching again.

So? Who else are you going to take? What position?

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-12-2012, 01:17 PM
Does anyone here really think the new GM will pass on a QB ? He's not gonna piss off the fan base that early.

Rudy lost the toss
12-12-2012, 01:19 PM
Say hello to Sam Montgomery!

And if that plan fails?

You end up without a QB.

No ****ing way.

Fair enough. The browns did it last year though by passing on Tannehill. They did the same with Quinn too I think. Makes me almost want to rethink the strategy.

whoman69
12-12-2012, 01:20 PM
Anybody who says that we should get another 5 tech who cannot rush the passer and pass up on a QB should be fired immediately.

scott free
12-12-2012, 01:22 PM
I'll never read anything by him ever, ever again.

BCD
12-12-2012, 01:25 PM
Anybody who says that we should get another 5 tech who cannot rush the passer and pass up on a QB should be fired immediately.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8GrZu4LWO7Fbu6dKz6EEexzaV0ecQ1avOGpwEiuv-TGXTglXI

keg in kc
12-12-2012, 01:26 PM
By the time the combine is doen the whole draft will change.Yep, after the Senior Bowl and the combine and the workouts, there will be a QB in the #1 pick discussions. It's inevitable.

RunKC
12-12-2012, 01:28 PM
I can totally see Pioli doing this because he wants to "outsmart" everyone by taking a QB in the 2nd round.

Please Clark, save this franchise. Get rid of this clown.

SNR
12-12-2012, 01:46 PM
What I don't want to happen...is that we take a QB #1 just because we have the #1 overall pick. Yes it is the most important position and we BADLY need one, but there isn't a RGIII or a Andrew Luck coming out of this draft.


IF THE SCOUTS SAY SO THEY MUST BE RIGHT AMIRITE

JFC. Get Andrew Luck out of your fucking head. That shit fucking NEVER EVER GODDAMN HAPPENS.

The talent we see here is NORMAL. In fact, it's above average. It's not a gimme slam dunk, but it doesn't fucking have to be as long as the potential for true greatness is there.

And it is.

So draft the fucking QB at #1 overall. Why? Because it's fucking worth it.

SNR
12-12-2012, 01:50 PM
Who's the valuable can't miss player we need to consider drafting instead of a QB?

No Von Millers. No elite CBs. Even the LTs fucking suck if we wanted to go full true fan. No Calvin Johnsons or AJ Greens. No Trent Richardsons.

There's a pretty good DT, but I've been told even by the draft value tards that Star is not an option.

So what? What is it? What do we fucking do if we don't draft a QB?

And if people say "trade down" I will burn a humane society to the ground. Have you not learned anything from the 2009 draft that if YOU don't want any of the players available at the top, then odds are nobody else does either?

Fuck.

MagicHef
12-12-2012, 01:55 PM
Why do you guys read these?

There have been 3 non-QBs picked #1 in the past 14 years. All 3 could easily be seen as mistakes.

Jake Long over Matt Ryan
Mario Williams over Young/Cutler
Courtney Brown over... well no one, really. Chad Pennington was the only QB taken in the first 2 rounds. Although there was a Brady hiding in the 6th.

For a team that's decent everywhere with one ridiculous gaping hole at one position in the roster, I have to believe even Pioli will take a QB if KC is picking at #1.

the Talking Can
12-12-2012, 01:55 PM
so apparently the world will end if we draft a QB at #1 even though McYamsucker says he is only #9?


we've waited 30 years for a QB and the only thing people care about is whether or not we draft for 'value'...because why? you care about clark's money more than a QB?

you care about mythical things - 'value' - more than a qb?

what is this sickness?

RunKC
12-12-2012, 01:58 PM
Who's the valuable can't miss player we need to consider drafting instead of a QB?

No Von Millers. No elite CBs. Even the LTs ****ing suck if we wanted to go full true fan. No Calvin Johnsons or AJ Greens. No Trent Richardsons.

There's a pretty good DT, but I've been told even by the draft value tards that Star is not an option.

So what? What is it? What do we ****ing do if we don't draft a QB?

And if people say "trade down" I will burn a humane society to the ground. Have you not learned anything from the 2009 draft that if YOU don't want any of the players available at the top, then odds are nobody else does either?

****.

Jarvis Jones is a BAMF and Luke Joekel is one of the better LT's to come out in the last few year.

Having said that, I want a QB at 1 and nothing else. But those guys listed above are arguably the top talent in the class overall.

ILChief
12-12-2012, 01:59 PM
How on earth have we picked DL twice in the top 5 and once at 11 since 08 and we still need d linemen? Not to mention we run a 3-4 which only plays three linemen at a time

BigCatDaddy
12-12-2012, 02:01 PM
Jarvis Jones is a BAMF and Luke Joekel is one of the better LT's to come out in the last few year.

Having said that, I want a QB at 1 and nothing else. But those guys listed above are arguably the top talent in the class overall.

Yeah, I think JJ might be a little better prospect coming out the Aldon Smith who isn't doing too badly. There is some talent there, but those guys are for teams that don't have QB needs like we do.

the Talking Can
12-12-2012, 02:01 PM
How on earth have we picked DL twice in the top 5 and once at 11 since 08 and we still need d linemen? Not to mention we run a 3-4 which only plays three linemen at a time

because we suck hard

JJ Watt at #11

we get poe

etc...

ILChief
12-12-2012, 02:05 PM
I hope they re-sign Dorsey if it keeps them from drafting DL. He may not be great but I'd rather have Dorsey at de and geno at QB then star whatever at de and Alex smith at qb

Frosty
12-12-2012, 02:05 PM
Taking Star in the top 3 would be an even bigger reach than Jackson. Star is a big body but he doesn't really make a lot of plays (when the Beavers played Utah this year, we had our true Freshman center on him one and one and Star had one solo tackle). To take him in the top 3 means you think he is on par with Suh. I don't think he is even as good a DT as Stephen Paea was a couple of years ago and Paea went in the second round.

Buckweath
12-12-2012, 02:07 PM
Chiefs fans say we should not reach on a QB that is not the best overall prospect but I'd take a Flacco, Freeman, Cutler prospect anyday over whatever defensive or offensive player in this draft.

Look at Big Ben, he probably wasn't a top 3 overall prospect in the 2004 draft but the guy fulfilled his potential and he's way more valuable than any position player drafted before him.

You take Geno Smith, if he fulfills his potential, he might make the Chiefs a perennial contender. If he fails, the team is probably not much worse if at all than if we had picked Lotulelei or whomever, and we just try again with another QB prospect with potential.

I'm amazed at how many people still don't see how much impact the QB has in today's game and also how much finding a future elite QB in round 2 and beyond is not only quite rare but also lucky.

BCD
12-12-2012, 02:15 PM
How on earth have we picked DL twice in the top 5 and once at 11 since 08 and we still need d linemen? Not to mention we run a 3-4 which only plays three linemen at a time

You almost have to laugh.

This kind of incompetency is beyond laughable.

ChiTown
12-12-2012, 02:18 PM
When you are the Chiefs, there is no such thing as a reach, unless you decide to NOT pick a fucking 1st round QB.

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 02:23 PM
Luke Joekel is one of the better LT's to come out in the last few year.

No, he most certainly is not.

SNR
12-12-2012, 02:34 PM
Jarvis Jones is a BAMF and Luke Joekel is one of the better LT's to come out in the last few year.

Having said that, I want a QB at 1 and nothing else. But those guys listed above are arguably the top talent in the class overall.
I'd rather have Kalil or even Tyron Smith than Joeckel.

And Jarvis Jones is a one-trick guy. His run defense is terrible. Not saying a pass rusher has to be COMPLETELY well-rounded, but his problem is that he's a sore liability. Teams that run at him WILL find success.

If Geno Smith shouldn't be drafted because he's not Andrew Luck, then Jarvis Jones is a far worse case of not being Von Miller.

Sofa King
12-12-2012, 02:56 PM
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RunKC
12-12-2012, 03:08 PM
I'd rather have Kalil or even Tyron Smith than Joeckel.

And Jarvis Jones is a one-trick guy. His run defense is terrible. Not saying a pass rusher has to be COMPLETELY well-rounded, but his problem is that he's a sore liability. Teams that run at him WILL find success.

If Geno Smith shouldn't be drafted because he's not Andrew Luck, then Jarvis Jones is a far worse case of not being Von Miller.

I think in the NFL today, just having a dominant pass rusher is key since stopping the pass is so important.

IMO Jarvis Jones is a guy who can get 15 sacks consistently. I know I'd take that if I was a team like the Jags.

Mr. Laz
12-12-2012, 03:19 PM
what's it like wearing panties all day?Silk ones feel really nice, thongs not so much.


what's it like when Sorter sticks his tongue up your ass at night?

O.city
12-12-2012, 03:22 PM
If you take Jarvis jones, where you playing him? Tampa coming off the field? Houston?

RunKC
12-12-2012, 03:36 PM
If you take Jarvis jones, where you playing him? Tampa coming off the field? Houston?

We won't take him and I don't want to, but man oh man can you imagine playing a 2-3-6 with Tamba, Houston and Jarvis in the stand up position on the line of scrimmage rushing the QB on 3rd down?

Holy shit that would be so insane.

gochiefss
12-12-2012, 03:37 PM
I thin star is the right pick. Let's be honest, pioli isn't going to start this thing all over and overdraft a QB when there will be good experienced QB's like Alex Smith and Michael Vick available who can step in day one and help this team. This team needs to shore up its run D more than anything and star would help that. Excellent pick.

Bewbies
12-12-2012, 03:40 PM
I thin star is the right pick. Let's be honest, pioli isn't going to start this thing all over and overdraft a QB when there will be good experienced QB's like Alex Smith and Michael Vick available who can step in day one and help this team. This team needs to shore up its run D more than anything and star would help that. Excellent pick.

Either a bad troll or a retarded true fan, you make the call.

Chief Roundup
12-12-2012, 03:41 PM
If you take Jarvis jones, where you playing him? Tampa coming off the field? Houston?

What is this Jones, a whole team or city? :Poke:

Chief Roundup
12-12-2012, 03:42 PM
I thin star is the right pick. Let's be honest, pioli isn't going to start this thing all over and overdraft a QB when there will be good experienced QB's like Alex Smith and Michael Vick available who can step in day one and help this team. This team needs to shore up its run D more than anything and star would help that. Excellent pick.

Well Pioli is not going to be here so your whole argument is invalid.

gochiefss
12-12-2012, 03:44 PM
I think he will. I think once quinn or cassel are in daboll's system for another year, you will see a much better team. People need to be patient. It takes time to get all the talent on the same page.

gochiefss
12-12-2012, 03:46 PM
Quinn to Baldwin could be a great combo for KC over the next several years, just takes time to gel.

Molitoth
12-12-2012, 03:46 PM
I think he will. I think once quinn or cassel are in daboll's system for another year, you will see a much better team. People need to be patient. It takes time to get all the talent on the same page.

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Bewbies
12-12-2012, 03:50 PM
Quinn to Baldwin could be a great combo for KC over the next several years, just takes time to gel.

Pioli's dick in your asshole is a good combo, especially with some gel.

gochiefss
12-12-2012, 03:52 PM
People need to realize that we aren't going to draft a QB. There isn't one to draft and more and more draft people are realizing this. Just deal with it, we can find one in the later rounds or in free agency. There will be some good options there.

htismaqe
12-12-2012, 03:53 PM
One LAChieffan is enough.

gochiefss
12-12-2012, 03:54 PM
Pioli knows what he's going. You aren't executive of the year three years in a row for no reason.

Crush
12-12-2012, 03:57 PM
It looks like Laz is doing what he does best... bitch. We need to take a... (gasp) risk and take a QB. Fucking deal with it.

Crush
12-12-2012, 04:01 PM
Any fan that does not want a QB at #1 needs to do us a favor and belcher themselves. This fanbase seriously needs an idiot cleansing.

Chief Roundup
12-12-2012, 04:01 PM
I think he will. I think once quinn or cassel are in daboll's system for another year, you will see a much better team. People need to be patient. It takes time to get all the talent on the same page.
Well if he is we are all fucked. Another year in Dabolls offense and we will drafting 1st again next year.
Quinn to Baldwin could be a great combo for KC over the next several years, just takes time to gel.

Yeah right...
People need to realize that we aren't going to draft a QB. There isn't one to draft and more and more draft people are realizing this. Just deal with it, we can find one in the later rounds or in free agency. There will be some good options there.

You need to realize that you are a small minority feeling this way. And the "talking heads" will change between now and the draft.
Pioli knows what he's going. You aren't executive of the year three years in a row for no reason.
Bill Belichick is the reason not that Pioli is some amazing anything other than fuckup.



OMG What is it with the gochiefs name on this site.

bigjosh006
12-12-2012, 04:02 PM
Pioli's dick in your asshole is a good combo, especially with some gel.

ROFL

I really hope he isnt serious about quinn being the future lmao

Crush
12-12-2012, 04:03 PM
Silk ones feel really nice, thongs not so much.


what's it like when Sorter sticks his tongue up your ass at night?


Says the guy that had his tongue up Pioli's ass for the last three years.

BoneKrusher
12-12-2012, 04:04 PM
Suck For Star Lotulelei

O.city
12-12-2012, 04:05 PM
Even if you think it's star that we should take, thee will be players that can do exactly what he can in the second round

Crush
12-12-2012, 04:06 PM
Well if he is we are all fucked. Another year in Dabolls offense and we will drafting 1st again next year.


Yeah right...


You need to realize that you are a small minority feeling this way. And the "talking heads" will change between now and the draft.

Bill Belichick is the reason not that Pioli is some amazing anything other than fuckup.



OMG What is it with the gochiefs name on this site.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Chief Roundup
12-12-2012, 04:11 PM
Even if you think it's star that we should take, thee will be players that can do exactly what he can in the second round

This is how I feel about every QB after Wilson and Smith.

SNR
12-12-2012, 04:42 PM
Good evening ladies and gentlemen it's time to play WHOSE MULT IS IT ANYWAY?

I'm Drew Carey, your host! Let's have some fun!

scott free
12-12-2012, 05:47 PM
My guess is they are going to try and pin us with Alex Smith for our 2nd round pick.

NOOO, I HATE YOU

NOOO

BossChief
12-12-2012, 05:53 PM
This team is one of the dumbest teams in history if they draft Star in the same offseason they let Dorsey walk and cut Tyson Jackson.

There would be no other excuse that complete stupidity.

whoman69
12-12-2012, 06:25 PM
This team is one of the dumbest teams in history if they draft Star in the same offseason they let Dorsey walk and cut Tyson Jackson.

There would be no other excuse that complete stupidity.

Which is exactly why it will happen

Coogs
12-12-2012, 07:50 PM
NOOO, I HATE YOU

NOOO

Obviously you didn't read the rest of the post... and follow up posts.

BigRedChief
12-12-2012, 08:04 PM
Most mocks have us taking Geno.

BigRedChief
12-12-2012, 08:06 PM
Says the guy that had his tongue up Pioli's ass for the last three years.Damn, wonder how many breath mints were used over that time frame?

scott free
12-12-2012, 08:13 PM
Obviously you didn't read the rest of the post... and follow up posts.

I read it, dude.

Just funnin ya.

beach tribe
12-12-2012, 09:54 PM
I'll wager that if I searched for a rundown of your posts, a form of what you just wrote would take up more than 99% of everything you've posted since the season started.

Seriously. Shut the **** up.

Just had to correct you..Sorry.

Mr. Laz
12-12-2012, 10:19 PM
Most mocks have us taking Geno.
but posting those wouldn't give people a chance to bitch

O.city
12-12-2012, 10:21 PM
Whether they are "slotted" to go their or not, the fact that he has 1 QB going in the first round, is crazy.

hometeam
12-12-2012, 10:28 PM
This has to be troll

Chief Roundup
12-12-2012, 11:01 PM
Just had to correct you..Sorry.

So are you a mult for or of TEX?

AussieChiefsFan
12-12-2012, 11:47 PM
lol;; maybe we can have 11 players on defense that were 1st round picks.And still suck

Wyndex
12-13-2012, 01:26 AM
Jaycee Pearson was talking about this guy a few weeks ago. Said he's a beast and would be a great player for us but it would be ridiculous for us to take him

BigChiefFan
12-13-2012, 03:10 AM
Fuck anybody against taking a chance.

Guru
12-13-2012, 03:22 AM
WE should just trade for Flynn and draft Teo. :D


OF course, the world ends next week so we will be put out of our misery.

AussieChiefsFan
12-13-2012, 03:27 AM
WE should just trade for Flynn and draft Teo. :D


OF course, the world ends next week so we will be put out of our misery.may aswell

NJChiefsFan
12-13-2012, 04:10 AM
ROFL If we draft that guy after taking Poe last year, I'll swallow a bullet.

Swallow like a pill or one going at a high rate of speed?

beach tribe
12-13-2012, 08:53 AM
So are you a mult for or of TEX?

Not even close. What would bring you to that conclusion?

htismaqe
12-13-2012, 12:39 PM
Petro just mentioned that McShay at this time last year had Robert Griffin going 32nd or 33rd overall.

He said not only will the first QB go off the board BEFORE #7 (where McShay has the 1st QB being picked), there will be at least TWO come off the board before #7.

htismaqe
12-13-2012, 12:40 PM
ROFL

Curtis just said that he couldn't think of a mock draft that would piss off Chiefs fans more than McShay's.

DeezNutz
12-13-2012, 12:40 PM
No logic for McShay's board. Says KC and Arizona desperately need QBs, and has Smith going at #8. Soooooo why in the fuck wouldn't he go at #1 overall.

Zero sense.

htismaqe
12-13-2012, 12:42 PM
Petro said he'd put the over/under on 1st round QBs at 3.

He said he'd be STUNNED if there weren't at least 3.

BigCatDaddy
12-13-2012, 01:46 PM
Petro said he'd put the over/under on 1st round QBs at 3.

He said he'd be STUNNED if there weren't at least 3.

I'd bet the over on that.

whoman69
12-13-2012, 03:50 PM
Neg rep to McShay. You're fired.

Nightfyre
12-13-2012, 04:50 PM
How can you not take the over on three?

Smith, Wilson, Barkley and Dysert should all go in the first and that precludes any declaring Juniors.

htismaqe
12-13-2012, 05:17 PM
How can you not take the over on three?

Smith, Wilson, Barkley and Dysert should all go in the first and that precludes any declaring Juniors.

Landry Jones and Glennon will get 1st-round consideration when it's all said and done.

I could see SIX QBs going in the first round.

Chief Roundup
12-13-2012, 06:18 PM
Not even close. What would bring you to that conclusion?

The apology for what TEX posted.