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Tribal Warfare
12-14-2012, 10:09 AM
'Close to 20' dead in Connecticut school shooting, source says (http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/us/connecticut-school-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
Newtown, Connecticut (CNN) -- Nearly 20 people died Friday in an elementary school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN.

At least 10 of the dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School were children, the source said. At a news conference Friday afternoon, state police Lt. Paul Vance would say only that there had been "several fatalities."

The school was secure, and the public was not in danger, Vance said.

"Why? Why?" one woman wailed as she walked up a wooded roadway leading from the school.

A parent who was inside the school at the time of the attack said she heard what sounded like at least 100 rounds being fired. She said she saw two school employees who had died.

'I hope my mom is ok': Tweets from the Connecticut school shooting

Hospital officials in neighboring Danbury said they were treating three people wounded in the shooting. Danbury Mayor Mark Boughton said the victims were in "very serious" condition.

The shooter is dead, a source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Susan Candiotti. The suspect's body is in a classroom at the school, the source said.

A law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation said a male was being questioned but he is not being called a suspect.

Federal officers in tactical gear were on the scene, coordinating with local and state police. At least four ambulances remained at the school Friday afternoon.

Police have recovered two weapons from the suspect, a Glock and a Sig Sauer, the source said. It's unclear if police killed the suspect.

'It doesn't seem possible' -- parents shocked by school shooting

Police and teachers rushed students from the building as police swarmed the area shortly after the first calls came in, around 9:40 a.m. ET. Officials moved students to a nearby firehouse, where parents frantically sought information about their children.

Third-grader Alexis Wasik said police and teachers barged into her classroom and told students to hide in the corner.

"Everybody was crying," she said. "And I just heard the police officers yelling."

Aerial images from CNN affiliate News 12 New Jersey showed police officers armed with rifles following a dog into woods near the school.

Other officers, some in tactical gear, stood around the school with guns drawn, CNN affiliate WFSB reported.

All schools in the city were on lockdown Friday as police assessed the situation, Vance said.

Gov. Dan Malloy is "horrified" by what happened, a spokesman said.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said the Obama administration feels "enormous sympathy" for affected families and pledged federal support for state and local law enforcement.

Newtown is about 60 miles north of New York.

This thread is not a place for discussion about gun control. There's a thread for that here:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=261606

People who can't understand that will be banned from this thread.

loochy
12-14-2012, 10:10 AM
what the hell man

ptlyon
12-14-2012, 10:12 AM
Cherry Mixmas

doomy3
12-14-2012, 10:12 AM
This is just getting to be ridiculous.

Bump
12-14-2012, 10:12 AM
so one of the shooters is the only one that died? At least there is that. But JFC, what kind of people do that to a fucking elementary school? That's horrifying.

kepp
12-14-2012, 10:13 AM
so one of the shooters is the only one that died? At least there is that. But JFC, what kind of people do that to a ****ing elementary school? That's horrifying.

With one still at large and a group of children missing, it sounds like.

Munson
12-14-2012, 10:13 AM
You have to be a sick mother****er to shoot up an elementary school.

Pestilence
12-14-2012, 10:13 AM
Stupid fucking end of the world bullshit. It's driving people to do some retarded stuff.

L.A. Chieffan
12-14-2012, 10:15 AM
if the school would've let the kids bring guns to school this wouldn't have happened

ptlyon
12-14-2012, 10:15 AM
Stupid ****ing end of the world bullshit. It's driving people to do some retarded stuff.

No shit. I've been rooting for the chiefs to lose all year

theelusiveeightrop
12-14-2012, 10:16 AM
Was Bob Costas killed?

ptlyon
12-14-2012, 10:17 AM
Was Bob Costas killed?

One can only hope

mr. tegu
12-14-2012, 10:18 AM
So the guys were shooting at each other it sounds like?

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2012, 10:18 AM
You have to be a sick mother****er to shoot up an elementary school.

this

journeyscarab
12-14-2012, 10:21 AM
Was Bob Costas killed?

No but he is preparing another "Moment of Reason" segment for SNF.

Third Eye
12-14-2012, 10:22 AM
so one of the shooters is the only one that died? At least there is that. But JFC, what kind of people do that to a ****ing elementary school? That's horrifying.

CNN just said Principal and psychologist are dead. Vice-principal shot in leg.

ptlyon
12-14-2012, 10:25 AM
No but he is preparing another "Moment of Reason" segment for SNF.

Good thing hes already done one. Maybe he can ' drive it home' this time.

cookster50
12-14-2012, 10:29 AM
There saying atleast 1 child confirmed dead. Rumors of more children dead.

WoodDraw
12-14-2012, 10:30 AM
Would be nice to go a month without one of these. Or a few weeks at least. Or maybe a couple days?

ptlyon
12-14-2012, 10:32 AM
Would be nice to go a month without one of these. Or a few weeks at least. Or maybe a couple days?

It's been two - you got your wish

bevischief
12-14-2012, 10:34 AM
With a week to go to the end the world... This is any indication this is going to be a fun week... Sad.

Mr. Plow
12-14-2012, 10:35 AM
It takes a special piece of shit to do that in an elementary school. Fuck I hate people.

WoodDraw
12-14-2012, 10:36 AM
Local news reporting over a dozen killed

Brock
12-14-2012, 10:37 AM
This is going to be the one that forces the feds to act. Get ready.

tk13
12-14-2012, 10:38 AM
ABC is apparently reporting over a dozen killed. Lots of info flying around, hopefully that's not true.
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something cooler
12-14-2012, 10:38 AM
I don't get it so some guys just are shooting little kids

WilliamTheIrish
12-14-2012, 10:39 AM
Yep, lots of conflicting reports. Have to let the dust settle before we know accurate info.

Codered
12-14-2012, 10:39 AM
Local news reporting over a dozen killed

I feel just sick reading these reports coming out. My son is in elementary school and I couldn't even imagine ...

How f'd up do you have to be to shoot up a school with kids in it?

Deberg_1990
12-14-2012, 10:39 AM
Looks like the Gunman was a father of one of the students...


http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/school-shooting-leaves-multiple-injured/

Munson
12-14-2012, 10:39 AM
This is going to be the one that forces the feds to act. Get ready.

Wouldn't surprise me. The gun control advocates will be out in full force.

WoodDraw
12-14-2012, 10:40 AM
Rumours now of 27 dead

something cooler
12-14-2012, 10:42 AM
Rumours now of 27 dead

Little kids!?

BigCatDaddy
12-14-2012, 10:42 AM
Rumours now of 27 dead

Sickening.

Dayze
12-14-2012, 10:42 AM
then the pussy off's himself.

WoodDraw
12-14-2012, 10:43 AM
Little kids!?

14 of them children

something cooler
12-14-2012, 10:43 AM
This is just incredibly sick and awful

tk13
12-14-2012, 10:45 AM
Apparently a CBS reporter directly quoted a law enforcement official who said expect the info coming out to get worse. That would be where the 20+ numbers are coming from.
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Munson
12-14-2012, 10:46 AM
According to MSN News, they are confirming 12 dead so far. And some of those are children.

http://news.msn.com/us/shooting-reported-at-connecticut-elementary-school

EDIT - The title of the link says at least 27 dead.

notorious
12-14-2012, 10:46 AM
My biggest fear is some sick **** shooting up my daughter's grade school.


It is going to happen eventually.

Edit: I didn't know that there were more dead than just the gunman. It has already happened. :(

Dayze
12-14-2012, 10:47 AM
horrible.

and the other collateral damage is the anti-gun folks are going to use this horrible event to push their agenda.

sd4chiefs
12-14-2012, 10:49 AM
I am so sick of all this gun bullshit.

Deberg_1990
12-14-2012, 10:50 AM
I very much look forward to the next Whitlock column...

GoShox
12-14-2012, 10:51 AM
Damnit.

ptlyon
12-14-2012, 10:52 AM
I am so sick of all this crazy people bullshit.

FYP

notorious
12-14-2012, 10:52 AM
I am so sick of all this gunman bullshit.

This.


What punishment can you possibly give someone that off's themselves?

Cave Johnson
12-14-2012, 10:52 AM
horrible.

and the other collateral damage is the anti-gun folks are going to use this horrible event to push their agenda.

If any shooting could result in the tiniest amount of gun control, it's this one.

kepp
12-14-2012, 10:53 AM
"state police source indicates this could be worst school shooting in US history. One whole classroom unaccounted for."

" BREAKING: CNN confirms close to 20 killed, including 10 childen"

...from http://live.reuters.com/Event/Newtown_School_Shooting

Detoxing
12-14-2012, 10:53 AM
I am so sick of all this gun bullshit.

Same here.

This is so, so fucking sad. I couldn't imagine being the parents of those children.

I am not a religious man, but God be with them.

.....Just too many PoS in this world.

Dayze
12-14-2012, 10:53 AM
If any shooting could result in the tiniest amount of gun control, it's this one.

I think so too.
:#

something cooler
12-14-2012, 10:53 AM
Connecticut is north of new York?

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2012, 10:53 AM
fox news 26 dead

WoodDraw
12-14-2012, 10:53 AM
I really wish these reporters wouldn't keep saying that the principal has been killed. Imagine his family and friends turning on the TV to find this out.

And some how, as a country, we have to figure out why this keeps happening so much and how to fix it.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2012, 10:54 AM
The Associated Press ‏@AP

BREAKING: Official with knowledge of Conn. school shooting: 27 dead, including 18 children

Dayze
12-14-2012, 10:54 AM
jfc

Detoxing
12-14-2012, 10:55 AM
If any shooting could result in the tiniest amount of gun control, it's this one.

I try not to get into these gun control debates. I understand both sides of the story and both have valid rights/concerns.

However, this event will cause more people to favor tightened gun control policy. And can you honestly blame them?

Cave Johnson
12-14-2012, 10:55 AM
You gotta be a serious POS to shoot elementary students.

WilliamTheIrish
12-14-2012, 10:56 AM
Chicago Tribune reporting "most of the shooting took place in kindergarten classrooms".

ChiTown
12-14-2012, 10:56 AM
You gotta be a serious POS to shoot defenseless innocent people.

FIFY

JASONSAUTO
12-14-2012, 10:56 AM
mother fucker.


this fucking sucks.


hug your kids tonight guys.

bevischief
12-14-2012, 10:57 AM
I try not to get into these gun control debates. I understand both sides of the story and both have valid rights/concerns.

However, this event will cause more people to favor tightened gun control policy. And can you honestly blame them?

They don't enforce the ones already on the books.

Detoxing
12-14-2012, 10:57 AM
Chicago Tribune reporting "most of the shooting took place in kindergarten classrooms".

......

FUCK

Are you fucking serious?

I swear to fucking god the motherfucker who did this deserves to die in the most brutal way.

Words don't describe what this PoS deserves.

3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 10:57 AM
Once again another massacre at a place where guns are not allowed... When will America learn?

The sick bastard that shot up the theater was close to 7 places showing the movie, one was half the distance to the theater he chose with double the capacity but the one he chose was the only one with a "No Concealed Weapons" sign on the door.


God bless those little souls... This makes me sick

WilliamTheIrish
12-14-2012, 10:58 AM
This is going to be the one that forces the feds to act. Get ready.

hate to get into this aspect, but you may be right.

notorious
12-14-2012, 10:58 AM
The kids never had a chance to live their lives.


God damn that POS.

Pushead2
12-14-2012, 10:58 AM
What a shame.....why couldn't these scumbags just off themselves and leave the harmless children alone.

Cave Johnson
12-14-2012, 10:59 AM
FIFY

There are various circles of Hell, and this guy's in the lowest one.

At least adults could (theoretically) attempt to disarm a shooter.

niblet
12-14-2012, 10:59 AM
What the

WoodDraw
12-14-2012, 11:01 AM
They're saying it could be the worst ever. How many were killed at vtech?

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2012, 11:02 AM
This just makes me fucking sick

WoodDraw
12-14-2012, 11:02 AM
Some are reporting the Gunman is dead...

Other reports that one person was arrested. A lot of confusion. Press conference soon...

kepp
12-14-2012, 11:02 AM
"WCBS-TV: Latest number of children fatally shot in Connecticut school shooting rises to 18."

WilliamTheIrish
12-14-2012, 11:04 AM
......

****

Are you ****ing serious?

I swear to ****ing god the mother****er who did this deserves to die in the most brutal way.

Words don't describe what this PoS deserves.



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-connecticut-school-shooting-20121214,0,4678476.story

Many of the shootings took place in a kindergarten classroom, sources told the Hartford Courant. The gunman is reported dead.

I think they have since changed the wording from "most" to "many.

BigMeatballDave
12-14-2012, 11:05 AM
If any shooting could result in the tiniest amount of gun control, it's this one.

Why?

You don't think these psychopaths could have gotten guns, even if they were all banned?

Kids use drugs. Drugs are banned. Drugs are still a serious problem.

Banning guns does not make them disappear.

It's scary that anyone can walk into any school. No questions asked.

Most schools have zero security.

mr. tegu
12-14-2012, 11:06 AM
To those of you complaining about this affecting gun control, now is not the time, so FUCK you!

Reaper16
12-14-2012, 11:06 AM
Welp, this is pretty much the fucking worse.

thebrad84
12-14-2012, 11:07 AM
This says up to 27 dead, mostly children...how horrible

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/deadly-shooting-reported-conn-elementary-school-article-1.1220164

mr. tegu
12-14-2012, 11:07 AM
This is just so sickening. Makes you crave the ability to bring back midevil punishments for this person.

BigCatDaddy
12-14-2012, 11:07 AM
I think it's time to start having armed police on patrol at all schools.

KILLER_CLOWN
12-14-2012, 11:07 AM
Time to Homeschool.

Discuss Thrower
12-14-2012, 11:07 AM
Once again another massacre at a place where guns are not allowed... When will America learn?

The sick bastard that shot up the theater was close to 7 places showing the movie, one was half the distance to the theater he chose with double the capacity but the one he chose was the only one with a "No Concealed Weapons" sign on the door.


God bless those little souls... This makes me sick

I like you, (for god knows what reason), but no.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2012, 11:07 AM
I think it's time to start having armed police on patrol at all schools.

This

WilliamTheIrish
12-14-2012, 11:08 AM
I think it's time to start having armed police on patrol at all schools.

You obviously don't know much about schools these days.

Dayze
12-14-2012, 11:08 AM
or at least restricted access at all entry points.

Mr. Plow
12-14-2012, 11:09 AM
Jesus. Kindergartners? 5-6 year olds? WTF is wrong with people.

WilliamTheIrish
12-14-2012, 11:10 AM
or at least restricted access at all entry points.

I'm pretty certain most schools have only one access point. This was a large elementary school. I can't imagine the guy came in through an open door.

Guess we'll know more as time moves forward.

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:11 AM
I think it's time to start having armed police on patrol at all schools.

It's already happening at most larger high schools.

3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 11:11 AM
I'm pretty certain most schools have only one access point. This was a large elementary school. I can't imagine the guy came in through an open door.

Guess we'll know more as time moves forward.


I think they said he came in during when the kids were coming in and they had not secured everything yet....

3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 11:12 AM
I think it's time to arm & train teachers

KILLER_CLOWN
12-14-2012, 11:12 AM
I really can't understand why a Father, yes a Dad did this...HOW?

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:12 AM
I really can't understand why a Father, yes a Dad did this...HOW?

No, a 20 year old.

Crush
12-14-2012, 11:13 AM
This is just so sickening. Makes you crave the ability to bring back midevil punishments for this person.

I'm all for bringing back the guillotine

thebrad84
12-14-2012, 11:13 AM
You obviously don't know much about schools these days.

Well, unfortunately most elementary schools don't have SRO's, I'd assume because not many fathomed someone would go in and shoot up a bunch of kindergarteners. As someone already said, it takes one special sick son of a bitch to do that..

BigCatDaddy
12-14-2012, 11:13 AM
You obviously don't know much about schools these days.

Probably not. What am I missing? I know the HS's in my area have a cop or something on patrol. I don't think all the schools do though.

Dayze
12-14-2012, 11:13 AM
or make all entrances requiring a code or something; door locks on y our way out etc.

gotta be something simple and effective.

BigMeatballDave
12-14-2012, 11:14 AM
You obviously don't know much about schools these days.

No joke. Most schools can't afford new books, much less security.

Investing in public schools needs to become a much higher priority.

KILLER_CLOWN
12-14-2012, 11:14 AM
No, a 20 year old.

I keep hearing a 23 year old father of one of the students, hope that's inaccurate.

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:14 AM
I think it's time to arm & train teachers

No, I don't think that's a good idea.

Deberg_1990
12-14-2012, 11:14 AM
Cant wait to hear the motive............


Was the gunmens child failing in fingerpaints?

Dayze
12-14-2012, 11:14 AM
my brother in law would work partime / his days off in Liberty at the HS; he's a State Trooper

kepp
12-14-2012, 11:16 AM
"CBS's John Miller says father of the student was the shooter. Second Gunman in custody. News Conference any minute."

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:16 AM
I keep hearing a 23 year old father of one of the students, hope that's inaccurate.

I see. I heard a 20 year old. You might be right. It's possible for a 18 year old to have a child, after all.

BigOlChiefsfan
12-14-2012, 11:16 AM
This brings back bad memories of the Chechens and the Russian school they took over. God Bless those folks. God rot that shooter.

Brock
12-14-2012, 11:17 AM
To those of you complaining about this affecting gun control, now is not the time, so FUCK you!

Get off your high horse, drama queen.

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:17 AM
Cant wait to hear the motive............


Was the gunmens child failing in fingerpaints?

Child being bullied? It would be absurd, of course.

bevischief
12-14-2012, 11:18 AM
Most schools are locked except the front door. Most schools I have seen usually have at least 1 armed guard or police on site.

BigOlChiefsfan
12-14-2012, 11:19 AM
Geez - the TV goober just said that today 22 children were stabbed in China by some nut job. Do we have to outlaw knives next? Forks? Clawhammers?

BigMeatballDave
12-14-2012, 11:19 AM
Most schools are locked except the front door. Most schools I have seen usually have at least 1 armed guard or police on site.

Really? NONE of the schools my son has gone to since Kindergarten have any security.

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:19 AM
NBC saying there is a second person in custody, maybe a coincidence (not part of shooting).

mr. tegu
12-14-2012, 11:19 AM
Get off your high horse, drama queen.

GTFO.

ptlyon
12-14-2012, 11:20 AM
Get off your high horse, drama queen.

Amen.

thebrad84
12-14-2012, 11:21 AM
I think it's time to arm & train teachers

This. Probably the most logical thing that can be done at this point. Most school districts/police departments will not have the funding or manpower to place an officer in every school in their city's school district. Time to start training/arming the school principal and other selected few who are capable to defend their schools.

mr. tegu
12-14-2012, 11:22 AM
Amen.

At least give it a day before you bring up that stuff. Show some respect and common decency.

BigCatDaddy
12-14-2012, 11:22 AM
This. Probably the most logical thing that can be done at this point. Most school districts/police departments will not have the funding or manpower to place an officer in every school in their city's school district. Time to start training/arming the school principal and other selected few who are capable to defend their schools.

Disgruntled teacher shoots up school. News at 9.

kepp
12-14-2012, 11:22 AM
Really? NONE of the schools my son has gone to since Kindergarten have any security.

I have a key fob to get into my youngest child's preschool and there is only one entry point for my other daughter's elementary school. But no security personnel that I know of.

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:23 AM
This. Probably the most logical thing that can be done at this point. Most school districts/police departments will not have the funding or manpower to place an officer in every school in their city's school district. Time to start training/arming the school principal and other selected few who are capable to defend their schools.

The easiest way for a kid to start shooting up a school is to arm a teacher or put a gun in a classroom. It's a good theory, but it has no place in reality.

notorious
12-14-2012, 11:23 AM
I am sick to my stomach. They need to methodically torture the murderer in a public square.


With the techonology we have today, they can certainly install face recognition tech at the main entrance that will completely shut down everything if an unauthorized person enters the first door.

I am just reaching for anything right now, because we all know that the alternative will not work.

Brock
12-14-2012, 11:24 AM
GTFO.

Shut up.

notorious
12-14-2012, 11:24 AM
Disgruntled teacher shoots up school. News at 9.

Yep.


I wouldn't trust 90% of teachers with a nerf gun.

kepp
12-14-2012, 11:25 AM
I am sick to my stomach. They need to methodically torture the murderer in a public square.


These bastards always off themselves though.

DenverDanChiefsFan
12-14-2012, 11:25 AM
I'm pretty certain most schools have only one access point. This was a large elementary school. I can't imagine the guy came in through an open door.

Guess we'll know more as time moves forward.

Incorrect. Most schools have multiple access points.

My kid's elementary school, all the doors are locked. Supposed to need a key card to enter any of the doors. However, this relies on people to not prop them open, not let other people in, etc. They also put a button by the door (with a camera that doesn't work worth a shit) for people to push to get buzzed in.

At the middle school and high school we have security guards and/or police officers.

Security is only as strong as the weakest link and unfortunately, there are a lot of weak links where our schools are concerned.

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:25 AM
I am just reaching for anything right now, because we all know that the alternative will not work.

Courthouses have a security guard and metal detector at the main door. Have that, have other exit doors that only open from the inside.

3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 11:26 AM
Disgruntled teacher shoots up school. News at 9.

Disgruntled teacher gets shot 15 times by 5 teachers for shooting principle but had it not been for these teachers, many lives were spared.

mr. tegu
12-14-2012, 11:27 AM
Shut up.

No one needs to be bringing up either side of the issue. It will have its place later, but it will also most likely fizzle out because there are no alternatives or really that much need for them. In the wake of the events though it wouldn't hurt to show some respect and sympathy for those other families and not immediately worry how it affects you.

Fat Elvis
12-14-2012, 11:28 AM
Now saying 27 dead...not sure if that was in this thread earlier.....

thebrad84
12-14-2012, 11:28 AM
The easiest way for a kid to start shooting up a school is to arm a teacher or put a gun in a classroom. It's a good theory, but it has no place in reality.

Well, they make wonderful devices call gun safes that could easily be accessed in the event of a shooting. And to the one who proposed the "disgruntled" teacher shooting up the school, what is preventing that from happening as we speak? A disgruntled teacher could bring in an entire duffel bag worth of weapons at any point without any question by colleagues..

BigCatDaddy
12-14-2012, 11:28 AM
Disgruntled teacher gets shot 15 times by 5 teachers for shooting principle but had it not been for these teachers, many lives were spared.

Too many loose ends. I would just prefer the police be armed and stationed there rather then have Kotter packing heat.

Tribal Warfare
12-14-2012, 11:28 AM
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notorious
12-14-2012, 11:29 AM
Courthouses have a security guard and metal detector at the main door. Have that, have other exit doors that only open from the inside.

Metal detectors are a great idea, and with the gigantic budget our Public Schools deal with we can afford another 40-50k for a security guard along with a part-timer.

The_Doctor10
12-14-2012, 11:29 AM
"CBS's John Miller says father of the student was the shooter. Second Gunman in custody. News Conference any minute."

How in poo perfect hell do you let yourself be convinced to be the second guy on a mission to execute kindergarteners?

Brock
12-14-2012, 11:29 AM
No one needs to be bringing up either side of the issue. It will have its place later, but it will also most likely fizzle out because there are no alternatives or really that much need for them. In the wake of the events though it wouldn't hurt to show some respect and sympathy for those other families and not immediately worry how it affects you.

They aren't here reading this board, dummy. Quit being an oversensitive girl.

ptlyon
12-14-2012, 11:30 AM
At least give it a day before you bring up that stuff. Show some respect and common decency.

Doesn't stop people yelling for gun control, does it?

BigCatDaddy
12-14-2012, 11:30 AM
Well, they make wonderful devices call gun safes that could easily be accessed in the event of a shooting. And to the one who proposed the "disgruntled" teacher shooting up the school, what is preventing that from happening as we speak? A disgruntled teacher could bring in an entire duffel bag worth of weapons at any point without any question by colleagues..

Because that would be premeditated and not some douche pissed off because he had a bad day. STUPID IDEA!

Tribal Warfare
12-14-2012, 11:31 AM
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mr. tegu
12-14-2012, 11:31 AM
They aren't here reading this board, dummy. Quit being an oversensitive girl.

Point taken. As I hope mine was.

3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 11:31 AM
Too many loose ends. I would just prefer the police be armed and stationed there rather then have Kotter packing heat.


There is no time for that man, by the time they get there the people are already dead.... Now saying something about a .223 so probably an AR-15 was involved...

20 year old shooter


Certify, train and arm teachers now!!!!

thebrad84
12-14-2012, 11:31 AM
Disgruntled teacher gets shot 15 times by 5 teachers for shooting principle but had it not been for these teachers, many lives were spared.

Exactly. The only true form of gun control is to controlled shoot a gun at the person who is misusing one.

WilliamTheIrish
12-14-2012, 11:31 AM
This brings back bad memories of the Chechens and the Russian school they took over. God Bless those folks. God rot that shooter.

Exactly where my thoughts went when I got this tweeted to me.

notorious
12-14-2012, 11:32 AM
We are going to have to turn our schools into prisons.


When I went to my daughter's Christmas concert I wondered for a moment what would happen if someone went nuts. I live in a very safe part of the country, but nobody would have been equipped to stop a madman in that situation.

BigOlChiefsfan
12-14-2012, 11:32 AM
Fox news now saying the shooter was a parent of one of the kids. Unconfirmed.

Edited to add - the shooter was 20 years old. The math for him being a parent doesn't work for me.

theelusiveeightrop
12-14-2012, 11:32 AM
The line people will cross continues to move. What is real anymore?

The_Doctor10
12-14-2012, 11:33 AM
Well, they make wonderful devices call gun safes that could easily be accessed in the event of a shooting. And to the one who proposed the "disgruntled" teacher shooting up the school, what is preventing that from happening as we speak? A disgruntled teacher could bring in an entire duffel bag worth of weapons at any point without any question by colleagues..

Teachers wanna bang students, they don't wanna kill them. Everyone who shot up a school was some poor fuck who didn't realize life could/would get better. Teachers have all gotten past that angsty emo shit by now. "What's preventing a teacher from doing this now" Nothing but reality, sir.

BigCatDaddy
12-14-2012, 11:34 AM
There is no time for that man, by the time they get there the people are already dead.... Now saying something about a .223 so probably an AR-15 was involved...

20 year old shooter


Certify, train and arm teachers now!!!!

I'm all for gun rights, but the idea of arming teachers scares me more then the odds of this happening at my kids school.

JASONSAUTO
12-14-2012, 11:35 AM
Teachers wanna bang students, they don't wanna kill them. Everyone who shot up a school was some poor fuck who didn't realize life could/would get better. Teachers have all gotten past that angsty emo shit by now. "What's preventing a teacher from doing this now" Nothing but reality, sir.

huh? STFU

bevischief
12-14-2012, 11:36 AM
Really? NONE of the schools my son has gone to since Kindergarten have any security.

Most of the ones in Johnson County, KS and the ones up here in Fargo do.

mikey23545
12-14-2012, 11:36 AM
What depths of evil does a person have to dwell in to even contemplate committing such a crime?

3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 11:37 AM
I'm all for gun rights, but the idea of arming teachers scares me more then the odds of this happening at my kids school.

Teachers are educated, they should be trained properly.

Shots heard, classroom locked... Kids hide away from windows away from the line of fire.
Teacher pulls weapon and waits... Mass killer opens door and 15 rounds whiz by his head, one possibly hitting, maybe more if trained properly, Problem solved, many lives saved.

something cooler
12-14-2012, 11:38 AM
Fox news now saying the shooter was a parent of one of the kids. Unconfirmed.

Edited to add - the shooter was 20 years old. The math for him being a parent doesn't work for me.

I was 20 when my daughter was in kindergarden.

WoodDraw
12-14-2012, 11:38 AM
I'm all for gun rights, but the idea of arming teachers scares me more then the odds of this happening at my kids school.

I'm trying to picture my old teachers trying to shoot down a gunman. It's a funny image.

notorious
12-14-2012, 11:39 AM
I'm all for gun rights, but the idea of arming teachers scares me more then the odds of this happening at my kids school.

One of the secretarys from our local school took the CCL class with me, and she asked why she couldn't take a gun into the school to protect the students.

She is the kind of person that would be dangerous with a rubber band. I definately don't want her having a gun in her desk.

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:39 AM
Teachers are educated, they should be trained properly.

Shots heard, classroom locked... Kids hide away from windows away from the line of fire.
Teacher pulls weapon and waits... Mass killer opens door and 15 rounds whiz by his head, one possibly hitting, maybe more if trained properly, Problem solved, many lives saved.

If the classroom door is locked, the shooter shouldn't be opening the door.

bricks
12-14-2012, 11:40 AM
****ing crazy

3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 11:41 AM
If the classroom door is locked, the shooter shouldn't be opening the door.


Somebody is saying he may be associated with the school somehow... Oh .. Wonder how hard it would be to go up to the principle and get the master key for all rooms with a glock pointed at his/her head?

bricks
12-14-2012, 11:41 AM
Ban gun possession.

Events like this should be a message.

Iowanian
12-14-2012, 11:41 AM
who the fuck does something like that............

luv
12-14-2012, 11:41 AM
So many dead. Have they said what kind of gun might have been involved?

Dayze
12-14-2012, 11:41 AM
Ban gun possession.

Events like this should be a message.

dude.....

kepp
12-14-2012, 11:41 AM
This makes me want to move back to the small town where I grew up. Not close to a major urban area. It could still happen there, I know. But it's not nearly as likely.

thebrad84
12-14-2012, 11:42 AM
I guess I fail to understand why people don't think teachers can be capable and trusted to use a firearm.

BigMeatballDave
12-14-2012, 11:42 AM
Ban gun possession.

.Yes, because criminals obey these laws.

notorious
12-14-2012, 11:43 AM
I guess I fail to understand why people don't think teachers can be capable and trusted to use a firearm.

Just like the public, some of them can, other shouldn't get close to a gun.

Chief_For_Life58
12-14-2012, 11:43 AM
This makes me want to move back to the small town where I grew up. Not close to a major urban area. It could still happen there, I know. But it's not nearly as likely.

this makes me finally decide on going to get my ccw permit. Ive had enough. so many nutcases out there. I'm carrying from now on

KILLER_CLOWN
12-14-2012, 11:43 AM
Thank you trooopers for not being pussies and entering and searching for the shooter post haste or more would have been dead.

bricks
12-14-2012, 11:43 AM
dude.....

Whats up?

JASONSAUTO
12-14-2012, 11:43 AM
This makes me want to move back to the small town where I grew up. Not close to a major urban area. It could still happen there, I know. But it's not nearly as likely.

more guns in the sticks.

luv
12-14-2012, 11:44 AM
Ban gun possession.

Events like this should be a message.

Yes, because making drugs illegal has kept them off the street.

WTF?

notorious
12-14-2012, 11:44 AM
This makes me want to move back to the small town where I grew up. Not close to a major urban area. It could still happen there, I know. But it's not nearly as likely.

Small towns are great.

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:44 AM
I guess I fail to understand why people don't think teachers can be capable and trusted to use a firearm.

I think the teacher is fine. But is the teacher going to have the gun in a lockbox? Around their waist? What concerns me is a kid or group of kids basically attacking the teacher and getting the gun or key.

bricks
12-14-2012, 11:44 AM
Yes, because criminals obey these laws.

At least slow down crime.

siberian khatru
12-14-2012, 11:44 AM
Evil. Pure evil.

3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 11:44 AM
So many dead. Have they said what kind of gun might have been involved?

Glock, Sig and .223 is the guns I have been hearing them mention

notorious
12-14-2012, 11:45 AM
At least slow down crime.

Please don't make somone post the stats again for the 10000000000000000th time.

notorious
12-14-2012, 11:45 AM
Evil. Pure evil.

/thread

Molitoth
12-14-2012, 11:45 AM
Ban gun possession.

Events like this should be a message.

Lol

:gets popcorn

Dayze
12-14-2012, 11:46 AM
this makes me finally decide on going to get my ccw permit. Ive had enough. so many nutcases out there. I'm carrying from now on

yuuuup.
I'm finally going to pony up the roughly $200 and be done with it.

thebrad84
12-14-2012, 11:46 AM
I'm trying to picture my old teachers trying to shoot down a gunman. It's a funny image.

Well, regardless of your former teachers displaying any apparent ability to handle a firearm, it really isn't that hard after about a week's worth of training. And I'd rather Mr. Kotter have a fighting chance against an armed whack job than Mr. Kotter cowering in the corner while the armed mad man walks in throwing bullets towards innocent kindergarteners.

BigOlChiefsfan
12-14-2012, 11:48 AM
Israel was plagued by "brave freedom fighters" attacking schoolchildren, usually with knives. They now require all school teachers to train w/firearms for the schoolroom AND carry them in the class and on any school outing. I've seen nice little ladies w/M-1 carbines or M-16s on a strap over their back. The kids in their care seemed safe enough to me.

News confirms that the shooter was the father of a student. Wonderful.

Dayze
12-14-2012, 11:48 AM
my wifre was skeert shitless of guns; about 4 trips to the range with me, she has zero issues with placing a nice little tight group with my XD; and she has tiny hands. Now she wants to go with me anytime I go. Natrually, she likes shooting the $2 reactive zombie targets...joy.

KCChiefsFan88
12-14-2012, 11:48 AM
The same people who want to make it as difficult as possible to vote... with registration and identification requirements, want to make it as easy as possible to own a gun.

JASONSAUTO
12-14-2012, 11:48 AM
Small towns are great.

i live in a small town, about 7 years ago a couple kids brought a list of kids they were going to kill to school.


shit can happen anywhere.

3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 11:49 AM
yuuuup.
I'm finally going to pony up the roughly $200 and be done with it.

Did it a while back, I am not going to be at a mall or a restaurant and let some asshole having a bad day determine if my family lives or dies if I can help it.

thebrad84
12-14-2012, 11:49 AM
I think the teacher is fine. But is the teacher going to have the gun in a lockbox? Around their waist? What concerns me is a kid or group of kids basically attacking the teacher and getting the gun or key.

Well, I suppose that would be up to the school district's policy. I'd prefer seeing it in a biometric gun safe. Easily accessible in the event of an incident, but otherwise completely secured from any student "stealing the key from the teacher" that you proposed. Plus, I would assume the district would make it policy that no children would be told there is a firearm in the classroom and, at the very least, where it is kept.

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2012, 11:50 AM
Glock, Sig and .223 is the guns I have been hearing them mention

Nothing too crazy as far as guns are concerned.

tk13
12-14-2012, 11:50 AM
This makes me want to move back to the small town where I grew up. Not close to a major urban area. It could still happen there, I know. But it's not nearly as likely.

I believe this is only a town of 20-30,000 people. It's an hour and a half from NYC. That's what's scary about this... it shows this can happen anywhere.
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3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 11:50 AM
The same people who want to make it as difficult as possible to vote... with registration and identification requirements, want to make it as easy as possible to own a gun.

People who are going to commit an act like this has absolutely nothing to do with gun control.

ottawa_chiefs_fan
12-14-2012, 11:50 AM
Well, regardless of your former teachers displaying any apparent ability to handle a firearm, it really isn't that hard after about a week's worth of training. And I'd rather Mr. Kotter have a fighting chance against an armed whack job than Mr. Kotter cowering in the corner while the armed mad man walks in throwing bullets towards innocent kindergarteners.

You do realize that the police are like as not to shoot Mr. Kotter if he is waving a gun around? They do not know he is a teacher - i am sure the shooter (in that case) would say he is a teacher. I guarantee you that cops would not want teachers carrying guns around in the school.

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:50 AM
i live in a small town, about 7 years ago a couple kids brought a list of kids they were going to kill to school.


shit can happen anywhere.

The Amish village shooting; the Parkersburg football coach killing.

This isn't confined to cities.

Dayze
12-14-2012, 11:50 AM
Did it a while back, I am not going to be at a mall or a restaurant and let some asshole having a bad day determine if my family lives or dies if I can help it.

Yep. If I'm checkin' out, or if my family is about to, I'm going down blazin.

BigCatDaddy
12-14-2012, 11:51 AM
I have to think there are a lot of teachers that are anti-gun and likely quit before picking up a gun.

KCChiefsFan88
12-14-2012, 11:52 AM
People who are going to commit an act like this has absolutely nothing to do with gun control.

How does the person who committed today's mass shooting, kill the same number of people in the same instant manner without a gun?

WoodDraw
12-14-2012, 11:52 AM
Well, regardless of your former teachers displaying any apparent ability to handle a firearm, it really isn't that hard after about a week's worth of training. And I'd rather Mr. Kotter have a fighting chance against an armed whack job than Mr. Kotter cowering in the corner while the armed mad man walks in throwing bullets towards innocent kindergarteners.

This debate doesn't interest me. Most school teachers are simply of the type that don't want guns. I know there are exceptions, but I don't understand why every time there is violence certain people think the solution is more guns.

Why doesn't this regularly happen in other western countries?

KILLER_CLOWN
12-14-2012, 11:52 AM
Sounds like the guy is an attention whore, Hell won't be a kind place.

bricks
12-14-2012, 11:53 AM
I understand guns are for the name of self defense, but if you have a gun, I don't care what anybody says, you're tempted to use it.

Something goes off in you, maybe you're having a bad day and your emotions get the best of you, or, you just have rage against people and the world, next thing you know BOOM! Shit happens all the time.

Ban guns. Come on man. We've ****ing had several massacres lately WTF guys? How can some of you not be open to this notion?

BigMeatballDave
12-14-2012, 11:54 AM
I understand guns are for the name of self defense, but if you have a gun, I don't care what anybody says, you're tempted to use it.

Something goes off in you, maybe you're having a bad day and your emotions get the best of you, or, you just have rage against people and the world, next thing you know BOOM! Shit happens all the time.

Ban guns. Come on man. We've ****ing had several massacres lately WTF guys? How can some of you not be open to this notion?

SHUT THE FUCK UP

3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 11:54 AM
I have to think there are a lot of teachers that are anti-gun and likely quit before picking up a gun.

Not a forced requirement but paid more as an incentive.

Go look at the majority of killings where 4+ people are taken out at random... They are all places where guns are not allowed... Think about it.

Post OffiCES, Schools, Theaters (with no ccw signs on door) , Malls (with no ccw on door) etc. There is a pattern

kepp
12-14-2012, 11:54 AM
How does the person who committed today's mass shooting, kill the same number of people in the same instant manner without a gun?

The only people that gun control laws prevent from getting guns are those that aren't criminals.

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2012, 11:54 AM
I understand guns are for the name of self defense, but if you have a gun, I don't care what anybody says, you're tempted to use it.

Something goes off in you, maybe you're having a bad day and your emotions get the best of you, or, you just have rage against people and the world, next thing you know BOOM! Shit happens all the time.

Ban guns. Come on man. We've ****ing had several massacres lately WTF guys? How can some of you not be open to this notion?

Look at the idiot from Canada.

Coach
12-14-2012, 11:54 AM
Really? Now we're gunning down elementary age kids?

:shake: :facepalm:

Our society is all fucked up beyond all kinds of recongizible levels....

KILLER_CLOWN
12-14-2012, 11:55 AM
I understand guns are for the name of self defense, but if you have a gun, I don't care what anybody says, you're tempted to use it.

Something goes off in you, maybe you're having a bad day and your emotions get the best of you, or, you just have rage against people and the world, next thing you know BOOM! Shit happens all the time.

Ban guns. Come on man. We've ****ing had several massacres lately WTF guys? How can some of you not be open to this notion?

The main reason is that banning guns doesn't do what you think it does. This just doesn't work.

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:55 AM
I have to think there are a lot of teachers that are anti-gun and likely quit before picking up a gun.

Probably. Also, just the first time the district says, "Okay, it's gotten bad enough that you need to carry a gun around," half of teachers are just going to say this shit isn't worth it.

BigMeatballDave
12-14-2012, 11:55 AM
Ban guns.

How are you going to get ALL OF THE GUNS IN THIS COUNTRY?

How do you think that will go down?

JASONSAUTO
12-14-2012, 11:55 AM
I understand guns are for the name of self defense, but if you have a gun, I don't care what anybody says, you're tempted to use it.

Something goes off in you, maybe you're having a bad day and your emotions get the best of you, or, you just have rage against people and the world, next thing you know BOOM! Shit happens all the time.

Ban guns. Come on man. We've ****ing had several massacres lately WTF guys? How can some of you not be open to this notion?

STFU.

i own plenty of guns and have a fair temper. never ONCE thought of killing my spouse or children.

Demonpenz
12-14-2012, 11:55 AM
They need to ban guns from school.

bricks
12-14-2012, 11:55 AM
SHUT THE **** UP

This is my opinion, if you don't like it too bad.

Frazod
12-14-2012, 11:55 AM
I understand guns are for the name of self defense, but if you have a gun, I don't care what anybody says, you're tempted to use it.

Something goes off in you, maybe you're having a bad day and your emotions get the best of you, or, you just have rage against people and the world, next thing you know BOOM! Shit happens all the time.

Ban guns. Come on man. We've ****ing had several massacres lately WTF guys? How can some of you not be open to this notion?

Eat shit, you fucking sheep. Incidents like this show why law abiding citizens need to be able to defend themselves.

3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 11:56 AM
How does the person who committed today's mass shooting, kill the same number of people in the same instant manner without a gun?

Fertilizer bomb
Hand Grenade
Dynamite

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2012, 11:56 AM
Judy Battista ‏@judybattista

RT @ScottMCBS: RT @MarlowNYC: AP: Suspect used .223 caliber rifle. This is picture of .223 rifle. This is legal. pic.twitter.com/DmHn9MYj

bricks
12-14-2012, 11:56 AM
The main reason is that banning guns doesn't do what you think it does. This just doesn't work.

It can slow down crime.

bevischief
12-14-2012, 11:56 AM
This is one of many reasons I don't like being around large groups of people.

notorious
12-14-2012, 11:56 AM
Sounds like the guy is an attention whore, Hell won't be a kind place.

Satan is going to make him pick out a big pineapple......

Dayze
12-14-2012, 11:57 AM
and here come the 'assault weapons' news.

wilas101
12-14-2012, 11:57 AM
How does the person who committed today's mass shooting, kill the same number of people in the same instant manner without a gun?

a few materials from any farm supplier and a trip to the gas station.

Cannibal
12-14-2012, 11:57 AM
Gun nuts want the wild west.

the Talking Can
12-14-2012, 11:58 AM
i blame bob costas

notorious
12-14-2012, 11:58 AM
Thread has contracted AIDS.

Please send it to DC.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2012, 11:58 AM
CNN Breaking News ‏@cnnbrk

Suspected gunman in #Newtown school shooting was 20 years old, source says. http://on.cnn.com/Zq1uF7

bricks
12-14-2012, 11:58 AM
Eat shit, you ****ing sheep. Incidents like this show why law abiding citizens need to be able to defend themselves.

But yet kill each other at the same time?

Right because that's what happens. You have a gun, you're not defending yourself, your ****ing killing people.

BigMeatballDave
12-14-2012, 11:59 AM
How does the person who committed today's mass shooting, kill the same number of people in the same instant manner without a gun?

I'll ask again: How do you propose we collect all of the guns in this country?

What do you think would happen if they tried?

La literatura
12-14-2012, 11:59 AM
Judy Battista ‏@judybattista

RT @ScottMCBS: RT @MarlowNYC: AP: Suspect used .223 caliber rifle. This is picture of .223 rifle. This is legal. pic.twitter.com/DmHn9MYj

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wWoUzuRVAF4/TeNVrloD7hI/AAAAAAAACJo/2YtOfS0JVIo/s1600/weapons%2B6.jpg

Frazod
12-14-2012, 11:59 AM
Gun nuts want the wild west.

I don't recall any incidents of people shooting up schoolhouses in the old west. Do you?

GloryDayz
12-14-2012, 12:00 PM
God I pray for the families of the kids and other murdered! I'm really hating this new world anymore!

BigMeatballDave
12-14-2012, 12:00 PM
But yet kill each other at the same time?

Right because that's what happens. You have a gun, you're not defending yourself, your ****ing killing people.

Goddamn, you're fucking dumb.

kepp
12-14-2012, 12:00 PM
It can slow down crime.

Do you know how long you have to wait to get a handgun license? Now, how long does it take to buy one "under the table"? It doesn't slow down crime. Do 5 minutes of research on the correlation between gun ownership and crime rate in the same areas.

KILLER_CLOWN
12-14-2012, 12:00 PM
Gun nuts want the wild west.

This makes the wild west look like a peace convention.

thebrad84
12-14-2012, 12:00 PM
You do realize that the police are like as not to shoot Mr. Kotter if he is waving a gun around? They do not know he is a teacher - i am sure the shooter (in that case) would say he is a teacher. I guarantee you that cops would not want teachers carrying guns around in the school.

You do realize that, on a national average, it takes police 7 minutes response time to any given emergency in progress. That wouldn't include the first arriving officers waiting to assemble a small team before entering and conducting a quick sweep through a large school trying to find the shooter. Mr. Kotter would have already acted and, God willing, eliminated the threat and be able to put away the gun or at least secure it before police arrive.

Oh, and you can take your guarantee and throw it away. I've been a police officer for 6 years now and I fully support allowing any law-abiding citizen to arm themselves, including teachers.

BigMeatballDave
12-14-2012, 12:00 PM
Gun nuts want the wild west.

:LOL:

You're a fucking retard.

excessive
12-14-2012, 12:00 PM
I just had to attend an intruder training class at the community college where I teach. Pretty depressing, as options are very limited: 1) Get away from the scene if possible. 2) If not possible to exit, barricade door or create obstacles for entry. 3) If armed intruder enters your classroom, start throwing shit at him and try to overwhelm him with the weight of numbers.

Yep, that's the plan: start throwing shit at them and hope enough people react quickly enough to overwhelm them. Obviously, it's not gonna happen when you have a class of 5 and 6 year old kids. I'd just as soon throw bullets as books if it came down to that. Just saying.

Frazod
12-14-2012, 12:00 PM
But yet kill each other at the same time?

Right because that's what happens. You have a gun, you're not defending yourself, your ****ing killing people.

Gee, how many people have I killed today? Oh yeah, ZERO.

Tool. Keep your socialist bullshit in Canada where it belongs.

siberian khatru
12-14-2012, 12:01 PM
How does the person who committed today's mass shooting, kill the same number of people in the same instant manner without a gun?

Bath School bombing, 1927

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

kepp
12-14-2012, 12:02 PM
"CBS News: Second body found in home of suspected Connecticut school shooting gunman"

notorious
12-14-2012, 12:02 PM
Gee, how many appliances have I killed today? Oh, wait......

Tool. Keep your socialist bullshit in America Jr. where it belongs.

FYP.

bricks
12-14-2012, 12:02 PM
Gee, how many people have I killed today? Oh yeah, ZERO.

Tool. Keep your socialist bullshit in Canada where it belongs.

:LOL:

Why u getting all worked up? It's a difference in opinion. Relax.

Chiefaholic
12-14-2012, 12:03 PM
if the school would've let the kids bring guns to school this wouldn't have happened

F*** off

Brock
12-14-2012, 12:04 PM
I understand guns are for the name of self defense, but if you have a gun, I don't care what anybody says, you're tempted to use it.

Something goes off in you, maybe you're having a bad day and your emotions get the best of you, or, you just have rage against people and the world, next thing you know BOOM! Shit happens all the time.

Ban guns. Come on man. We've ****ing had several massacres lately WTF guys? How can some of you not be open to this notion?

That's pretty stupid.

kepp
12-14-2012, 12:04 PM
"Eyewitness to WCBS-TV: "There are 20 parents who were just told that their children are dead."

Dear, God...I can't imagine.

Easy 6
12-14-2012, 12:04 PM
Words cant express how awful i feel, this just goes so far beyond any kind of reason.

Kindergartners, before Christmas... dear God how i wish that guy could've been taken alive and tortured for the rest of his life.

3rd&48ers
12-14-2012, 12:04 PM
You do realize that, on a national average, it takes police 7 minutes response time to any given emergency in progress. That wouldn't include the first arriving officers waiting to assemble a small team before entering and conducting a quick sweep through a large school trying to find the shooter. Mr. Kotter would have already acted and, God willing, eliminated the threat and be able to put away the gun or at least secure it before police arrive.

Oh, and you can take your guarantee and throw it away. I've been a police officer for 6 years now and I fully support allowing any law-abiding citizen to arm themselves, including teachers.
Amen, I love a LEO with a brain

WoodDraw
12-14-2012, 12:04 PM
"CBS News: Second body found in home of suspected Connecticut school shooting gunman"

Jeeze

La literatura
12-14-2012, 12:05 PM
:LOL:

Why u getting all worked up? It's a difference in opinion. Relax.

You are witnessing America's gun culture in action.

KILLER_CLOWN
12-14-2012, 12:05 PM
"Eyewitness to WCBS-TV: "There are 20 parents who were just told that their children are dead."

Dear, God...I can't imagine.

Can you imagine waiting for you kid not knowing? Would have to have been the longest most grueling period in their entire lives.

KCChiefsFan88
12-14-2012, 12:06 PM
Bath School bombing, 1927

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

The fact you have to go back to 1927 to find a similar school massacre that was committed without a gun is revealing.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-14-2012, 12:06 PM
"Eyewitness to WCBS-TV: "There are 20 parents who were just told that their children are dead."

Dear, God...I can't imagine.

Just wanna cry so sad.

BIG_DADDY
12-14-2012, 12:06 PM
But yet kill each other at the same time?

Right because that's what happens. You have a gun, you're not defending yourself, your ****ing killing people.

Wow, what a dumb motherfucker

siberian khatru
12-14-2012, 12:07 PM
The fact you have to go back to 1927 to find a similar school massacre that was committed without a gun is revealing.

You asked. I answered.

If anything, it shows that targeting schoolkids isn't anything new.

La literatura
12-14-2012, 12:08 PM
You asked. I answered.

If anything, it shows that targeting schoolkids isn't anything new.

There is some strange comfort in that.

BIG_DADDY
12-14-2012, 12:08 PM
"Eyewitness to WCBS-TV: "There are 20 parents who were just told that their children are dead."

Dear, God...I can't imagine.

I don't even want to think about it. I can't imagine losing my boy in that manner.

BigOlChiefsfan
12-14-2012, 12:08 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/world/asia/china-knife-attack/index.html

kepp
12-14-2012, 12:09 PM
How about we all (pro and anti-gun) stop airing our opinions and actually think about what matters here, at this moment.

Crush
12-14-2012, 12:09 PM
:LOL:

Why u getting all worked up? It's a difference in opinion. Relax.

Because you are obviously trolling this thread. Can you at least let the blood of these innocent victims dry and let them rest in peace for at least one GD day before you start your shitty schtick? There's a forum made for people like you, I suggest you use it.

kcfanXIII
12-14-2012, 12:09 PM
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asia/326213/man-stabs-22-children-at-china-primary-school

sorry, not trying to wade through 4 pages of tragic shit to see if this has been posted. can you imagine the effect knife control will have on their sword industry?

BigMeatballDave
12-14-2012, 12:10 PM
You are witnessing America's gun culture in action.

Eat shit.

This has nothing to do with Gun Culture.

Holy shit, these anti-gun people are fucking stupid.