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Dr. Facebook Fever
12-16-2012, 01:10 PM
Going into today...

Adrian Peterson... 265 attempts, 1,600 yards, 10 touchdowns
*He has another long td run today already

Peyton Manning... 104 QB rating, 3,812 yards, 30 touchdown passes

Ace Gunner
12-16-2012, 01:11 PM
do you really need to ask?

sincerly,

Peyton

Mr_Tomahawk
12-16-2012, 01:11 PM
AP

OnTheWarpath58
12-16-2012, 01:12 PM
Manning will win it, but Peterson should.

Shogun
12-16-2012, 01:13 PM
All day

milkman
12-16-2012, 01:13 PM
Manning will win it, but Peterson should.

I think Peterson should win the MVP, but Manning will.

They'll give AP the Comeback player award as a consolation prize.

Deberg_1990
12-16-2012, 01:14 PM
Manning will win it, but Peterson should.

This. Plays a much more bruising and physical position.

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-16-2012, 01:15 PM
I think Peterson should win the MVP, but Manning will.

They'll give AP the Comeback player award as a consolation prize.

Seems like a likey scenario.

ChiliConCarnage
12-16-2012, 01:17 PM
AP. Mannings having a great year but AP might have a historic season and he's doing it even though their passing offense has gone into the tank.

Molitoth
12-16-2012, 01:19 PM
I'll give comeback player of the year to AP.
Manning gets my MVP. There is NO WAY the RB position is MORE valuable than the QB position. AP won't even get his team into the playoffs... whereas Manning may take a mediocre Broncos team deep into the playoffs if not the superbowl.

Fruit Ninja
12-16-2012, 01:20 PM
They should both win it co winners if thats possible. They are both playing fucking great. Its a toss up honestly

lewdog
12-16-2012, 01:21 PM
AP. no doubt. He didn't have some little neck injury, he fucking blew out his knee.

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-16-2012, 01:21 PM
They should both win it co winners if thats possible. They are both playing ****ing great. Its a toss up honestly

That's pretty much how I feel. I vote AP though officially.

Ace Gunner
12-16-2012, 01:23 PM
"AP should" ???? **** that with a big chocolaty Jamaal Charles dick.

milkman
12-16-2012, 01:24 PM
I'll give comeback player of the year to AP.
Manning gets my MVP. There is NO WAY the RB position is MORE valuable than the QB position. AP won't even get his team into the playoffs... whereas Manning may take a mediocre Broncos team deep into the playoffs if not the superbowl.

That "mediocre" Bronco team won 8 games with Tim TeBow at QB.

Their defense came on in the middle of the season last year, and have only improved, and their receivers have some talent.

Manning is tapping into that talent, and the defense gets a chance to really play to their strength.

Mr_Tomahawk
12-16-2012, 01:27 PM
AP blew out his ACL DEC 24th...has a RB ever returned from an ACL injury that quickly and followed it up with a season such as his...?

Nobody knows how bad Peyton's neck was but Peyton. He has had a season much better than expected...but what AP has done in less than a year is almost sickening.

Flachief58
12-16-2012, 01:27 PM
Peyton Manning although it could go either way

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-16-2012, 01:27 PM
"AP should" ???? **** that with a big chocolaty Jamaal Charles dick.

240 attempts, 1220 yards, 4 touchdowns. Great to have him back but he's not AP. Team MVP though... since there's so much competition for that.

Easy 6
12-16-2012, 01:28 PM
No Jamaal Charles option?

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-16-2012, 01:30 PM
No Jamaal Charles option?

No, because he's not in the same company as those two... and I didn't feel the need to skew voting with a homer option. JC has no shot. See post #18.

DenverDanChiefsFan
12-16-2012, 01:32 PM
Manning will win it, but Peterson should.

This. I fucking hate the forehead, but the NFL slobbers all over that family.:banghead:

Easy 6
12-16-2012, 01:33 PM
No, because he's not in the same company as those two... and I didn't feel the need to skew voting with a homer option. JC has no shot. See post #18.

I can see how that would skew the poll, but disagree that he's not in the same company.

POLL FAIL! :)

lewdog
12-16-2012, 01:33 PM
AP blew out his ACL DEC 24th...has a RB ever returned from an ACL injury that quickly and followed it up with a season such as his...?

Nobody knows how bad Peyton's neck was but Peyton. He has had a season much better than expected...but what AP has done in less than a year is almost sickening.

This and completely this. Hasn't even been a year. That was an incredibly quick recovery to be dominating like he is.

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-16-2012, 01:33 PM
This. I ****ing hate the forehead, but the NFL slobbers all over that family.:banghead:

That's because they're really good heh.

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-16-2012, 01:35 PM
I can see how that would skew the poll, but disagree that he's not in the same company.

POLL FAIL! :)

My wording may have been off but my meaning is he's not in AP's range stat wise this season. He's great no doubt. He'd probably have a good shot most years.

I did consider including Brady Quinn as a "Gaz" option but a bunch of numbnuts would vote for him... hence poll skewed. I'm actually interested in an honest vote heh.

Bump
12-16-2012, 01:38 PM
AP

AD

Bump
12-16-2012, 01:39 PM
Adrian Peterson might break that record. He's a fucking beast, you could make arguments for either one but AD might do something Legendary.

Lumpy
12-16-2012, 02:21 PM
AP > PM

Rain Man
12-16-2012, 02:40 PM
I'm at the airport, and there's a guy at my gate wearing a brand new #58 Broncos jersey with the name "Manning" on the back. I'll try to get a picture, but he's facing me so I can't get the back.

Garcia Bronco
12-16-2012, 02:45 PM
Manning. ACL injuries are no longer the career threatening injury the used to be. Manning is back from missing a year and with a completely different team. He was also cut by his previous team.

Mr_Tomahawk
12-16-2012, 02:53 PM
Peterson has ran for more yards than Manning has thrown for today...

milkman
12-16-2012, 02:55 PM
Manning. ACL injuries are no longer the career threatening injury the used to be. Manning is back from missing a year and with a completely different team. He was also cut by his previous team.

Homer alert!

hometeam
12-16-2012, 02:55 PM
Peterson hands down

BigMeatballDave
12-16-2012, 02:56 PM
AP because Peyton will likely get MVP

Rugby Thompson
12-16-2012, 03:06 PM
it's AP.

close thread.

lewdog
12-16-2012, 03:08 PM
Manning. ACL injuries are no longer the career threatening injury the used to be. Manning is back from missing a year and with a completely different team. He was also cut by his previous team.

Yea knee injuries to running backs don't mean shit anymore.

:facepalm:

Deberg_1990
12-16-2012, 03:13 PM
Damn...less than 300 away from Dickersons record now.

mcaj22
12-16-2012, 03:15 PM
if you need a refresher of how bad it was a year ago

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a lot of people well educated in the health field said that AP might not ever play again and if he did would never be the same.

and people just see the results a year later, but forget what kind of sacrifices this guy made, he spent an entire year/offseason doing what it took to end up where he is today

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/936898/scaled_php.jpg

laying in bed on New Years Eve with a blown out leg being surgically repaired. The dude wasnt delaying surgery so he can party or hobbling around with a bum leg to go bowling or at the local Dave and Busters Andrew Bynum style.

He did what it took to get back, because he is paid as such and has earned everything. A real pro athlete.

Von Dumbass
12-16-2012, 03:40 PM
I think Peyton Manning has came back from more but I'm going with Adrian Peterson because he is on pace to put up numbers that only a handful of people have done before.

I'd give Manning the MVP over Peterson though because he has helped his team win more games.

milkman
12-16-2012, 03:42 PM
I think Peyton Manning has came back from more but I'm going with Adrian Peterson because he is on pace to put up numbers that only a handful of people have done before.

I'd give Manning the MVP over Peterson though because he has helped his team win more games.

One win against a team over .500.

Von Dumbass
12-16-2012, 03:45 PM
One win against a team over .500.

We beat Atlanta and Houston if we played them tomorrow. NE is a tossup.

milkman
12-16-2012, 03:46 PM
We beat Atlanta and Houston if we played them tomorrow. NE is a tossup.

LMAO

Shut the fuck up dumbass.

NE is a tossup.

LMAO

Rams Fan
12-16-2012, 03:47 PM
Thomas Davis.

Von Dumbass
12-16-2012, 03:47 PM
LMAO

Shut the **** up dumbass.

NE is a tossup.

LMAO

We would be favored if they played us at Denver. They would be favored if we played in NE. It's a tossup.

Rams Fan
12-16-2012, 03:48 PM
We beat Atlanta and Houston if we played them tomorrow. NE is a tossup.

Guess what?

You don't play them tomorrow.

rabblerouser
12-16-2012, 03:49 PM
Jalil Brown, no question.

milkman
12-16-2012, 03:49 PM
We would be favored if they played us at Denver. They would be favored if we played in NE. It's a tossup.

You, my friend, are a complete and utter moron.

thurman merman
12-16-2012, 03:49 PM
a lot of people well educated in the health field said that AP might not ever play again and if he did would never be the same.

and people just see the results a year later, but forget what kind of sacrifices this guy made, he spent an entire year/offseason doing what it took to end up where he is today

He did what it took to get back, because he is paid as such and has earned everything. A real pro athlete.

People said the exact same stuff about Manning, dude. Just about everybody thought he would only be a fraction of his former self if he could even play at all.

Von Dumbass
12-16-2012, 03:53 PM
You, my friend, are a complete and utter moron.

And you are the biggest Peyton Manning basher on this forum.

mcaj22
12-16-2012, 04:00 PM
People said the exact same stuff about Manning, dude. Just about everybody thought he would only be a fraction of his former self if he could even play at all.

no they said that he would be weak/out of shape. Every doctor in the world pretty much said him jamming stem cells into his neck would heal it. The part was he sat out the NFL for a year, and would need to play the neck back into strength.

He didnt rip his neck off and lay there on the field like AP did with his leg. His leg is fucking backwards. Backwards. Like never play again backwards.

milkman
12-16-2012, 04:03 PM
And you are the biggest Peyton Manning basher on this forum.

This has nothing to do with Manning bashing.

The Donkeys are probably the second best team in the AFC right now (debatable with Houston, since they can get after the QB and Manning has always struggled with 34 defenses that can pressure the QB and disrupt the timing of his offense), but they have achieved their record due to a soft schedule since the 6th game of the season.

AP has carried that Viking team, with no one respecting the pass in a passing league.

CrazyPhuD
12-16-2012, 05:23 PM
Matt Cassel and it's not even close.

If he didn't comeback down to earth this year how many more years would we have had to put up with his mediocrity?

Mr_Tomahawk
12-16-2012, 05:37 PM
Jon Ekstrom ‏@JonEkstrom
From @RLiuNFL Adrian Peterson’s 1,313 rush yards are most in @nfl history over 8 game span in single season. #MVPeterson

Thig Lyfe
12-16-2012, 05:38 PM
No Cassel option?

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-16-2012, 06:44 PM
No Cassel option?

I'd think you could be happy for Peyton Manning. Theresh just no pleashing you.

Planetman
12-16-2012, 08:19 PM
I'd give Manning the MVP over Peterson though because he has helped his team win more games.
Even though he really hasn't beaten any teams worth a shit until today.

unnecessary drama
12-16-2012, 08:22 PM
wait, what?

How would AP win comeback player of the year?

He played in every game last year. He was injured in the final game.

I don't think he fits this criteria.

unnecessary drama
12-16-2012, 08:24 PM
And you are the biggest Peyton Manning basher on this forum.

That's true.

Sorry Milkman, but you are. Your hate for Manning often clouds your judgment when debating Manning.

milkman
12-16-2012, 08:28 PM
That's true.

Sorry Milkman, but you are. Your hate for Manning often clouds your judgment when debating Manning.

This is something you've never understood.

I like the guy a lot.

I think he's a helluva regular season QB, and is someone who would probably enjoy having a beer with.

I also know he's the greatest playoff choker among the all time great QBs.

unnecessary drama
12-16-2012, 08:29 PM
Fair enough.

I'll just agree to disagree. Now, Brady is kind of a victim of circumstance but the records show...he hasn't won anything since spygate (2004).

OnTheWarpath58
12-16-2012, 08:30 PM
wait, what?

How would AP win comeback player of the year?

He played in every game last year. He was injured in the final game.

I don't think he fits this criteria.

That's actually a really good point.

milkman
12-16-2012, 08:31 PM
Fair enough.

I'll just agree to disagree. Now, Brady is kind of a victim of circumstance but the records show...he hasn't won anything since spygate (2004).

And I'd agree with the point you are alluding to here.

confused
12-16-2012, 08:33 PM
You, my friend, are a complete and utter moron.
Dear Lord, save the shtick Nancy.

milkman
12-16-2012, 08:33 PM
That's actually a really good point.

It's really easy.

These hacks can make up any criteria they want to justify the pick, and they will, as they always do.

milkman
12-16-2012, 08:34 PM
Oh, I have a new stalker.

Yay, me.

confused
12-16-2012, 08:34 PM
Oh, I have a new stalker.

Yay, me.
If by skimming threads and consistently finding you with diaper rash, then yep. Chalk me up as a modern day John Hinckley.

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-16-2012, 08:36 PM
wait, what?

How would AP win comeback player of the year?

He played in every game last year. He was injured in the final game.

I don't think he fits this criteria.

He came back from serious injury... one that some thought might end his career... to have the season he's having. It's not the fucking tough.

Garcia Bronco
12-16-2012, 08:55 PM
Yea knee injuries to running backs don't mean shit anymore.

:facepalm:

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Thig Lyfe
12-16-2012, 09:18 PM
I'd think you could be happy for Peyton Manning. Theresh just no pleashing you.

Maybe if these chumps had listened to me and signed Manning, I'd be happy.

Mile High Mania
12-16-2012, 09:57 PM
Hard to argue about either of them winning it, both are very deserving.

Demonpenz
12-16-2012, 11:48 PM
AD is having an awesome year, but Running backs don't mean shit that much anymore.

clyde05
12-17-2012, 02:26 AM
AP had 970 yards and 12 tds before he got hurt last year, those are pretty good numbers that he is going to get ready to shatter, that being said my vote goes to Peyton because AP did have good year last year, he just worked his ass off in rehab.

unnecessary drama
12-17-2012, 02:34 AM
I'm not bashing Peterson, I just don't think he fits the criteria for the award.

I think it has to go to Peyton, but Jamaal Charles should probably finish 2nd.

AussieChiefsFan
12-17-2012, 02:43 AM
AP, he'll get Comback player. MVP will probably go to Peyton.

Sorter
12-17-2012, 02:45 AM
I think both are deserving of both awards. I'd probably give Peyton Comeback Award as he was out a full season. AP is carrying a horrific team that is currently the 6th seed in the NFC IIRC. How that is possible with the abortion of QB and secondary play that team has, I have no idea.

clyde05
12-17-2012, 02:45 AM
Peyton deserves both awards

unnecessary drama
12-17-2012, 02:47 AM
not sure how you could give Peyton MVP and not Brady...maybe it's time to bust out the ol' CO-MVP for this year

clyde05
12-17-2012, 02:47 AM
I think both are deserving of both awards. I'd probably give Peyton Comeback Award as he was out a full season. AP is carrying a horrific team that is currently the 6th seed in the NFC IIRC. How that is possible with the abortion of QB and secondary play that team has, I have no idea.

This, if Vikings make playoffs

unnecessary drama
12-17-2012, 02:48 AM
in fact, for once, I'd probably just give the MVP to Adrian Peterson.

QB's throwing 40 TD's and 5000 yards is something we are seeing every year now. It's just another season for those two.

This Adrian guy...oh my lord. I'd definitely not bitch about him being MVP. He deserves it.

AussieChiefsFan
12-17-2012, 02:48 AM
IMO AP deserves the combeack award. ACL + MCL late last season. Is back for week 1 and then has the season he has had, incredible.

clyde05
12-17-2012, 02:51 AM
not sure how you could give Peyton MVP and not Brady...maybe it's time to bust out the ol' CO-MVP for this year

Very true don't know why I always forget about him, but MVP will prob be between him,Manning and depending how bikes finish Peterson.

Sorter
12-17-2012, 02:53 AM
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1282969/apspinnaz_medium.gif

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1267619/allday_medium.gif

I mean, seriously, how the fuck is this even possible? The guy is a freak.

AussieChiefsFan
12-17-2012, 02:55 AM
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1282969/apspinnaz_medium.gif

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1267619/allday_medium.gif

I mean, seriously, how the fuck is this even possible? The guy is a freak.Even 5-10 years a go it would have been unthinkable. hell man, nobody before THIS seaosn thought he'd be close to this! AP = Beast among men

clyde05
12-17-2012, 02:57 AM
Hell make Manning and Peterson Co Comeback player of year

Count Alex's Wins
12-17-2012, 02:59 AM
This is now Peterson's best season EVER. He will top 2,000 yards.

Right now he's at 6.3 YPC.

I still have to give it to Manning because he sat out a whole year.

AussieChiefsFan
12-17-2012, 03:02 AM
Don't get me wrong, I think what peyton has done is damn incredible but I think AP deserves it as stated above.

Count Alex's Wins
12-17-2012, 03:03 AM
Interestingly enough, Peterson is only the 2nd guy to get over 1800 yards with less than 300 carries.

The other guy is Jim Brown.

Insane.

AussieChiefsFan
12-17-2012, 03:04 AM
Interestingly enough, Peterson is only the 2nd guy to get over 1800 yards with less than 300 carries.

The other guy is Jim Brown.

Insane.Bloody insane.

Sorter
12-17-2012, 03:05 AM
Interestingly enough, Peterson is only the 2nd guy to get over 1800 yards with less than 300 carries.

The other guy is Jim Brown.

Insane.

Time his 40 in that second gif from the 50 to the 10. JFC. After an ACL tear?

AussieChiefsFan
12-17-2012, 03:07 AM
Every time another big time RB tears and ACL, it'll be "can they bounce back like AP did?" from now.

Count Alex's Wins
12-17-2012, 03:13 AM
I just timed his 40 in this 82 yard run from today.

After making a move in the open field, he goes from the 30 to the 30 (40 yards) in 4.1 seconds.

He covers the last 40 yards in 3.88 seconds.

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AussieChiefsFan
12-17-2012, 03:16 AM
I just timed his 40 in this 82 yard run from today.

After making a move in the open field, he goes from the 30 to the 30 (40 yards) in 4.1 seconds.

He covers the last 40 yards in 3.88 seconds.

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BoneKrusher
12-17-2012, 07:58 AM
AP
All Day.

Ceej
12-17-2012, 08:11 AM
I'm fairly convinced they're both robots.

Thus disqualifying them both.

Allowing Jamaal Charles to win CPOY!

YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!

But, to be honest, both are very deserving.

As mentioned...AP wins CPOY and Manning potentially wins MVP.

Rain Man
12-17-2012, 10:22 AM
Peterson wins. Manning didn't do squat for us this year.

HemiEd
12-17-2012, 10:26 AM
I now hate Peyton Manning more than I used to hate the Raiders, and didn't think that was possible.

I refuse to watch a game the Broncos are participating in and have never hoped for a "1 and done" so much in my life.

Mile High Mania
12-17-2012, 10:28 AM
Either player is well deserving, most expected them to do well, but not "that well". Both of their teams are headed to the playoffs and both players are producing at a high level.

Peterson is "the weapon" on his team and Manning looks as if he's been playing in Denver for 8 years and not 8 months.

Give it to either of them, I don't care... same goes for the MVP too. I want playoff wins and a SB title. I'm allowing myself to breath a bit now with the reality of a #2 seed being in their grips and what that can really mean for them once the playoffs start.

There's a long journey ahead in the playoffs and they have to take care of business with the Browns and Chiefs coming to town. The Broncos are riding a 9 game winning streak, with their last loss on the road @ NE in week 5. These two final games in Denver are classic trap games - they're playing for seeding, lose 1 game and they can fall to #3 or #4 depending on how things shake out.

As odd as it is to say, the Browns and Chiefs games are unquestionable must wins for Denver. Ride that momentum, do not let up and please oh please... if they are leading by double digits late in either game, put in Brock and let him finish the game(s). Leave nothing to chance if the games are out of reach.

boogblaster
12-17-2012, 12:44 PM
frickin' manning .. he's prolly got 3 or more years left in him if he dfoesnt get hurt .. bastard .....

Rain Man
12-17-2012, 12:55 PM
Either player is well deserving, most expected them to do well, but not "that well". Both of their teams are headed to the playoffs and both players are producing at a high level.

Peterson is "the weapon" on his team and Manning looks as if he's been playing in Denver for 8 years and not 8 months.

Give it to either of them, I don't care... same goes for the MVP too. I want playoff wins and a SB title. I'm allowing myself to breath a bit now with the reality of a #2 seed being in their grips and what that can really mean for them once the playoffs start.

There's a long journey ahead in the playoffs and they have to take care of business with the Browns and Chiefs coming to town. The Broncos are riding a 9 game winning streak, with their last loss on the road @ NE in week 5. These two final games in Denver are classic trap games - they're playing for seeding, lose 1 game and they can fall to #3 or #4 depending on how things shake out.

As odd as it is to say, the Browns and Chiefs games are unquestionable must wins for Denver. Ride that momentum, do not let up and please oh please... if they are leading by double digits late in either game, put in Brock and let him finish the game(s). Leave nothing to chance if the games are out of reach.

You'd better hope we're still playing for the #1 pick in Week 17.

HemiEd
12-17-2012, 01:15 PM
I will say it again, Fuck Peyton fucking Manning.

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-17-2012, 01:16 PM
Easily Peterson, but leading a flawed Denver team to that kind of record gives Jughead legit heat for it.

unnecessary drama
12-17-2012, 02:30 PM
This is the best defense Manning has ever had...