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Thig Lyfe
12-16-2012, 03:26 PM
329 yards, 2 TDs, only 1 INT, and a win that put the Redskins in 1st with RGIII recovering from a knee injury

get it done carl

Baconeater
12-16-2012, 03:28 PM
Peyton Manning

Inmem58
12-16-2012, 03:29 PM
Pitbulls

SNR
12-16-2012, 03:33 PM
I'd rather have Thiggy

milkman
12-16-2012, 03:33 PM
No.

Thig Lyfe
12-16-2012, 03:34 PM
I'd rather have Thiggy

me too :(

Rams Fan
12-16-2012, 03:36 PM
Bad joke is bad.

Marcellus
12-16-2012, 03:38 PM
If we had him and he was playing like that in place of Cassel people would be fine with giving him a shot.

Thig Lyfe
12-16-2012, 03:38 PM
Bad joke is bad.

ur bad

Easy 6
12-16-2012, 03:41 PM
Brilliant move by Shanny, he understands what a QB means in todays league.

If one is good, two is better.

Rams Fan
12-16-2012, 03:42 PM
Brilliant move by Shanny, he understands what a QB means in todays league.

If one is good, two is better.

Or he simply felt that Cousins is a better backup then Grossman or anyone else out there and would be a decent fill in if RGIII were ever to miss any time?

Easy 6
12-16-2012, 03:54 PM
Or he simply felt that Cousins is a better backup then Grossman or anyone else out there and would be a decent fill in if RGIII were ever to miss any time?

To potentially stake your season on a fourth round rookie, takes big cojones, he took a lot of flak for it.

Too many coaches would rather take the "vet" with lesser pure talent.

No, i'll stick with what i said.

the Talking Can
12-16-2012, 03:56 PM
he played better than any QB under pioli in 4 years...in his first start ever

DaneMcCloud
12-16-2012, 03:56 PM
People here have claimed that Cousins = Stanzi.

I don't get it.

tk13
12-16-2012, 03:59 PM
The real lesson here is you don't have to draft a QB in the first round to have success. [/Pioli]

Marcellus
12-16-2012, 04:01 PM
The real lesson here is you don't have to draft a QB in the first round to have success. [/Pioli]

The fact is you dont have to but you still have to draft a good QB just odds are better in the 1st.

Rams Fan
12-16-2012, 04:04 PM
The fact is you dont have to but you still have to draft a good QB just odds are better in the 1st.

This.

threebag02
12-16-2012, 04:07 PM
Tru Dat

Demonpenz
12-16-2012, 04:17 PM
take 3 or 4 qb's shit just get one that can play.

LiveSteam
12-16-2012, 04:46 PM
Who needs a Q/B in today's NFL?

Bump
12-16-2012, 04:46 PM
if we were smart enough to draft Cousins in the 2nd or 3rd, I would be fine going with him next year if he played like that for us. But we weren't, so....

unnecessary drama
12-16-2012, 04:56 PM
you know

today made Cousins such an asset to Washington...

they may be able to widdle a late 1st out of someone...early 2nd at the worst

Bump
12-16-2012, 04:57 PM
you know

today made Cousins such an asset to Washington...

they may be able to widdle a late 1st out of someone...early 2nd at the worst

ya, it's interesting. I wouldn't call him a "retread" at all. Some team will trade for him and it might pay off.

Reerun_KC
12-16-2012, 04:58 PM
I thought we should of taken him...

I was on the Tannehill, Foles and Cousins bandwagon....

Scrawny Armed Alex Smith
12-16-2012, 04:59 PM
Devin Wylie > K. Cousins

KChiefs1
12-16-2012, 05:14 PM
329 yards, 2 TDs, only 1 INT, and a win that put the Redskins in 1st with RGIII recovering from a knee injury

get it done carl

Not good enough for Pioli.

BWillie
12-16-2012, 05:31 PM
People here have claimed that Cousins = Stanzi.

I don't get it.

How would anyone even know? Poor Stanzi doesn't even get a chance. I mean whats it take?

Marcellus
12-16-2012, 05:37 PM
you know

today made Cousins such an asset to Washington...

they may be able to widdle a late 1st out of someone...early 2nd at the worst

Q to the Q.

BigMeatballDave
12-16-2012, 05:44 PM
I thought we should of taken him...

I was on the Tannehill, Foles and Cousins bandwagon....Have. It's a pet peeve.

:)

SNR
12-16-2012, 05:48 PM
People here have claimed that Cousins = Stanzi.

I don't get it.
Stanzi was an equivalent prospect coming out of college, yes.

Rudy lost the toss
12-16-2012, 05:50 PM
Yeah Cousins would be on the bench in Oakland right now

malachi47000
12-16-2012, 06:21 PM
Offer Washington 2nd round pick for Cousins and draft Geno Smith 1st overall...grab CB/WR in 3rd round

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 07:24 PM
Offer Washington 2nd round pick for Cousins and draft Geno Smith 1st overall...grab CB/WR in 3rd round

Fuck that. Trade a 2nd for cousins. Trade 1 overall to St. Louis (make them bitches take it for their 2 1st round picks) and pick a spot where to upgrade the shitfest.

jd1020
12-16-2012, 07:25 PM
**** that. Trade a 2nd for cousins. Trade 1 overall to St. Louis (make them bitches take it for their 2 1st round picks) and pick a spot where to upgrade the shitfest.

Trade a 2nd for a QB who just last year was drafted in the 4th after 1 game... solid!

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 07:28 PM
Trade a 2nd for a QB who just last year was drafted in the 4th after 1 game... solid!

We should have picked him in the first place. Our fault for missing out. It's wishful thinking but I think the kid is going to be great if given the opportunity. Actually his 2nd game. In his first appearance he led the redskins on a game winning drive after coming late for rg3

jd1020
12-16-2012, 07:30 PM
We should have picked him in the first place. Our fault for missing out. It's wishful thinking but I think the kid is going to be great if given the opportunity. Actually his 2nd game. In his first appearance he led the redskins on a game winning drive after coming late for rg3

His 2nd game? ****in A!!!

Why are we risking a 2nd then? Someone might outbid us... Give them the #1 overall pick!

FTR - I was one of few people who wanted to draft Cousins, but fuck this stupid shit of trading a 2nd for a 4th round QB with 1 1/2 games experience.

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 07:43 PM
His 2nd game? ****in A!!!

Why are we risking a 2nd then? Someone might outbid us... Give them the #1 overall pick!

FTR - I was one of few people who wanted to draft Cousins, but **** this stupid shit of trading a 2nd for a 4th round QB with 1 1/2 games experience.

Lol, you'd prefer a quarterback that only people on cp think is worth the number 1 with no game experience?

Sfeihc
12-16-2012, 07:46 PM
Seemed like a good fit for me. KC QB for KC. Better than Cassoli or The Not So Mighty Quinn and Stanzi the Myth.

jd1020
12-16-2012, 07:49 PM
Lol, you'd prefer a quarterback that only people on cp think is worth the number 1 with no game experience?

Nah. I prefer the Chiefs to drop their retarded belief in dumpster diving through other peoples trash.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-16-2012, 07:56 PM
Keep Gannon!

Mr. Kotter
12-16-2012, 07:57 PM
People here have claimed that Cousins = Stanzi.

I don't get it.

Ditto... :shrug:

Mr_Tomahawk
12-16-2012, 07:59 PM
Matt Cassel had back-to-back 400 yards games in NE.



No.

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 08:03 PM
Nah. I prefer the Chiefs to drop their retarded belief in dumpster diving through other peoples trash.

Len Dawson, Joe Montana, Trent Green?

I would say a 2nd year player who has played well under limited opportunity doesn't qualify as dumpster diving.

I could see it with half their career over but a second year player?

Deberg_1990
12-16-2012, 08:04 PM
This years Matt Flynn?

Marcellus
12-16-2012, 08:06 PM
Len Dawson, Joe Montana, Trent Green?

I would say a 2nd year player who has played well under limited opportunity doesn't qualify as dumpster diving.

I could see it with half their career over but a second year player?

People are trying to over simplify the situation. They want a drafted 1st round QB.

I want results, no matter what and figure a 1st round QB is most likely the route, but if we get the wins and rings another way I dont give a fuck.

jd1020
12-16-2012, 08:10 PM
Len Dawson, Joe Montana, Trent Green?

I would say a 2nd year player who has played well under limited opportunity doesn't qualify as dumpster diving.

I could see it with half their career over but a second year player?

3 numbers for 3 names...

19, 43, 1983.

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 08:12 PM
People are trying to over simplify the situation. They want a drafted 1st round QB.

I want results, no matter what and figure a 1st round QB is most likely the route, but if we get the wins and rings another way I dont give a ****.

This. There's a thought out there that a magical 1st pick overall is going to equal the next Peyton Manning. Problem is I'm seeing more Jamarcus Russell than Manning out there.

scho63
12-16-2012, 08:12 PM
It is amazing that the Redskins pick TWO excellent QBs in ONE draft and the Colts once again pick a Hall of Fame QB after Elway and Manning picks.

We only pick when it's shit!

jd1020
12-16-2012, 08:13 PM
This. There's a thought out there that a magical 1st pick overall is going to equal the next Peyton Manning. Problem is I'm seeing more Jamarcus Russell than Manning out there.

Just like this magical thought that a 4th round pick is worth a 2nd round pick after 1 1/2 games and is going to lead the Chiefs to the SB.

jd1020
12-16-2012, 08:13 PM
We only pick when it's shit!

Don't count your chickens yet. The Chiefs have yet to pick. Wouldn't want to ruin a 30 year run.

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 08:21 PM
Just like this magical thought that a 4th round pick is worth a 2nd round pick after 1 1/2 games and is going to lead the Chiefs to the SB.

The same argument that works for you works against you.

So you'd base a players potential off a college season where it wasn't great vs. an actual NFL season. All things being equal no quarterback is guaranteed anything. I'd rather go with the consensus that these guys aren't going to be the next Manning and go after someone with equal upside and lesser cost and use the gift to upgrade the total shit team we currently have.

I'm of the belief that the Chiefs problem with quarterbacks has less to do with drafting a quarterback and more to do with not giving equal competition and refusal to not admit a mistake and move on.

jd1020
12-16-2012, 08:23 PM
The same argument that works for you works against you.

So you'd base a players potential off a college season where it wasn't great vs. an actual NFL season.

Get back to me when Cousins plays a NFL season.

If Cousins had equal upside to Smith he would have been a consensus 1st round pick.

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 08:31 PM
Get back to me when Cousins plays a NFL season.

If Cousins had equal upside to Smith he would have been a consensus 1st round pick.

Get back to me when you understand that this isn't madden and that these overall evaluations are just educated opinions not actual scores you can plug in. The same overall educated opinions that applied to Brees, Brady, Romo, Russel Wilson, etc. and the same overall educated opinions that applied to Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf to name a few busts.

jd1020
12-16-2012, 08:32 PM
Get back to me when you understand that this isn't madden and that these overall evaluations are just educated opinions not actual scores you can plug in. The same overall educated opinions that applied to Brees, Brady, Romo, Russel Wilson, etc. and the same overall educated opinions that applied to Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf to name a few busts.

WTF does Madden have to do with any of this you fucking moron?

SNR
12-16-2012, 08:34 PM
Fuck that. Trade a 2nd for cousins. Trade 1 overall to St. Louis (make them bitches take it for their 2 1st round picks) and pick a spot where to upgrade the shitfest.

Trade McCluster for a 2nd and sign every free agent for chump change, and we win the Madden Super Bowl next year!

Setsuna
12-16-2012, 08:38 PM
Keep Gannon!

Him?

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u13/wesa2j06/ganondorf_zps577558bf.png

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 08:38 PM
Trade McCluster for a 2nd and sign every free agent for chump change, and we win the Madden Super Bowl next year!

You don't think a 1 overall is worth 2 middle round 1sts?

SNR
12-16-2012, 08:39 PM
Tell me the differences between Cousins and Stanzi coming out of college, guys.

All this bullshit you want to talk about now is just after-the-fact pining for mediocrity.

Cousins would have been a fucking retarded pick at the time for us because we already had Cousins on the roster.

Don't give me any of this "Cousins has started an NFL game lolz" bullshit. He was a slapdick coming out of college and found the right situation on a team with a QB that gets injured easily. That team has a TANDEM of excellent QB coaches, and they also aren't married to John Beck/Rex Grossman/whoever else you want to play the Matt Cassel role in this comparison.

Fuck Cousins and everybody who wants him.

SNR
12-16-2012, 08:39 PM
You don't think a 1 overall is worth 2 middle round 1sts?

If it means missing out on Smith or Wilson (which it very likely does) then fuck no.

Cousins is NOT a starting QB

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 08:41 PM
WTF does Madden have to do with any of this you ****ing moron?

I thought I explained it when I said this isn't madden where the consensus number 1's are opinions not numbers.

I A M S O R R Y I W I L L S L O W D O W N F O R Y O U.

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 08:41 PM
If it means missing out on Smith or Wilson (which it very likely does) then **** no.

Cousins is NOT a starting QB

Geno Smith will be a bust, that's my opinion. I know nothing of Wilson.

SNR
12-16-2012, 08:42 PM
Get back to me when you understand that this isn't madden and that these overall evaluations are just educated opinions not actual scores you can plug in. The same overall educated opinions that applied to Brees, Brady, Romo, Russel Wilson, etc. and the same overall educated opinions that applied to Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf to name a few busts.

Dude, I like you but you have no idea how fucking stupid you sound right now.

jd1020
12-16-2012, 08:42 PM
I thought I explained it when I said this isn't madden where the consensus number 1's are opinions not numbers.

I A M S O R R Y I W I L L S L O W D O W N F O R Y O U.

I never said consensus #1, idiot.

SNR
12-16-2012, 08:43 PM
Geno Smith will be a bust, that's my opinion. I know nothing of Wilson.

Kirk Cousins will be a bust, that's my opinion. I also like Wilson.

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 08:47 PM
I never said consensus #1, idiot.

I used #1 in place of first rounder.

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 08:48 PM
Dude, I like you but you have no idea how ****ing stupid you sound right now.

and I love you, however that doesn't change a thing.

PunkinDrublic
12-16-2012, 08:49 PM
Cousins doesn't have a big enough body of work to take that kind of chance on no matter what you think of Geno Smith.

mcaj22
12-16-2012, 08:50 PM
the only one im mad about his Pioli not taking Russel Wilson over Donald Stephonson

that's it. because that was a no brainer clearly no matter what the knock was on the guy

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 08:53 PM
Cousins doesn't have a big enough body of work to take that kind of chance on no matter what you think of Geno Smith.

Lol, he's got his college career plus he'll have some games under his belt compared to any quarterback out of the draft.

jd1020
12-16-2012, 08:55 PM
Lol, he's got his college career plus he'll have some games under his belt compared to any quarterback out of the draft.

Why even trade for a QB then? We already have 2 QBs with NFL games under their belt.

WildTurkey
12-16-2012, 08:56 PM
Lol, he's got his college career plus he'll have some games under his belt compared to any quarterback out of the draft.

Yes let's all wet our pants over Cousins who had one good game against the Cleveland Fuckin Browns. Excuse me if I don't jump on the bandwagon yet

SNR
12-16-2012, 08:57 PM
and I love you, however that doesn't change a thing.Okay. Thanks. I love you too.

The problem with your scenario is that you desire a trade for picks because you are against Geno Smith. I think it's just fear more than anything, but in any case, you believe he's a terrible prospect.

However, instead of searching for KC's own home-grown QB (like in the case where people prefer Barkley to Smith or Wilson) you claim that Cousins is an appropriate solution.

When called out by 90% of people on here that Cousins has barely any experience as a 4th round pick, and therefore is inadequate, it's your distrust of Geno Smith that causes you to leap at Cousins for being "safe".

PunkinDrublic
12-16-2012, 08:57 PM
Lol, he's got his college career plus he'll have some games under his belt compared to any quarterback out of the draft.

So did Matt Flynn.

SNR
12-16-2012, 08:57 PM
the only one im mad about his Pioli not taking Russel Wilson over Donald Stephonson

that's it. because that was a no brainer clearly no matter what the knock was on the guy
Russell Wilson would be sitting on the bench behind Matt Cassel right now if Pioli drafted him.

mcaj22
12-16-2012, 08:59 PM
Russell Wilson would be sitting on the bench behind Matt Cassel right now if Pioli drafted him.

lol but Matt Flynn wouldnt!

SNR
12-16-2012, 09:01 PM
lol but Matt Flynn wouldnt!
Well, now we're getting to the heart of the problem in this hypothetical.

Matt Cassel. Pioli loves him. Cassel is the reason why we don't have Flynn OR Russel Wilson right now.

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 09:01 PM
Why even trade for a QB then? We already have 2 QBs with NFL games under their belt.

They aren't getting it done. As I stated previously in this thread that is the problem this franchise has. Not giving equal competition and refusing to admit making a mistake.

I am not against drafting a quarterback in the first round, but I have to say it scares the shit out of me for that reason. If that fucker busts we'll be looking at that bust for at least 4 years because we could have a potential hall of famer on the bench and that's where his ass would stay.

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 09:02 PM
Yes let's all wet our pants over Cousins who had one good game against the Cleveland ****in Browns. Excuse me if I don't jump on the bandwagon yet

Our former 1st round pick didn't do shit against cleveland.

jd1020
12-16-2012, 09:03 PM
I wish I knew why drafting the MOST IMPORTANT POSITION in the round that offers the BEST SELECTION OF TALENT scares the shit out of someone.

OH NO!!! Our QB prospect busted. Should have draft a Tyson Jackson. We'd be much better off!!!

mcaj22
12-16-2012, 09:04 PM
Well, now we're getting to the heart of the problem in this hypothetical.

Matt Cassel. Pioli loves him. Cassel is the reason why we don't have Flynn OR Russel Wilson right now.

question is, would you be happy with either QB right now. In terms of should they have drafted Wilson or signed Flynn all things considered if the hypothetical constant wasnt the franchise handcuffed to Cassel/Pioli's ego

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 09:04 PM
Okay. Thanks. I love you too.

The problem with your scenario is that you desire a trade for picks because you are against Geno Smith. I think it's just fear more than anything, but in any case, you believe he's a terrible prospect.

However, instead of searching for KC's own home-grown QB (like in the case where people prefer Barkley to Smith or Wilson) you claim that Cousins is an appropriate solution.

When called out by 90% of people on here that Cousins has barely any experience as a 4th round pick, and therefore is inadequate, it's your distrust of Geno Smith that causes you to leap at Cousins for being "safe".

It's not my distrust of Geno Smith, it's my distrust of the organization. If he busts they won't do a fucking thing about it. Yes I'm a little on the "safe side" in that aspect. We'll be stuck just like we are with Cassell.

Marcellus
12-16-2012, 09:06 PM
Our former 1st round pick didn't do shit against cleveland.

While I am all for drafting a QB #1 overall this year it does crack me up people ignore the fact that guys like Quinn exist. Dude is a huge 1st round bust.

He didn't do shit against the 32nd ranked defense today.

WildTurkey
12-16-2012, 09:08 PM
Our former 1st round pick didn't do shit against cleveland.

That'd mean something if we had actually drafted him and were looking to him to be our qbotf

jd1020
12-16-2012, 09:08 PM
While I am all for drafting a QB #1 overall this year it does crack me up people ignore the fact that guys like Quinn exist. Dude is a huge 1st round bust.

He didn't do shit against the 32nd ranked defense today.

Point me to the position that has a 100% success rate in the first round.

Marcellus
12-16-2012, 09:10 PM
Point me to the position that has a 100% success rate in the first round.

Look I said I want a QB #1 overall I am not saying dont take one, take the chance please.

I am just curious as to how people will react if its a bust 2 years in.

PunkinDrublic
12-16-2012, 09:10 PM
Point me to the position that has a 100% success rate in the first round.

Even if it doesn't work out can you really blame the FO for taking a chance on Geno Smith?

jd1020
12-16-2012, 09:11 PM
I am just curious as to how people will react if its a bust 2 years in.

I would imagine it will go something like this...

"Draft [insert QB's name here] in the first round!!!!!"

J Diddy
12-16-2012, 09:11 PM
That'd mean something if we had actually drafted him and were looking to him to be our qbotf

Why does it matter if we drafted him? You act like proclaiming him qbotf and drafting him is going to make him magically a hall of famer.

Marcellus
12-16-2012, 09:11 PM
Even if it doesn't work out can you really blame the FO for taking a chance on Geno Smith?

Hell no.

WildTurkey
12-16-2012, 09:18 PM
Why does it matter if we drafted him? You act like proclaiming him qbotf and drafting him is going to make him magically a hall of famer.

No I'm saying nobody is comparing Quinn to Cousins so its irrelevant what Quinn did against what Cousins did. Cousins is better than we have now so the fuck what? Who isn't

mdchiefsfan
12-16-2012, 09:19 PM
I wish I knew why drafting the MOST IMPORTANT POSITION in the round that offers the BEST SELECTION OF TALENT scares the shit out of someone.

OH NO!!! Our QB prospect busted. Should have draft a Tyson Jackson. We'd be much better off!!!

Truer words were never spoken.

Deberg_1990
12-16-2012, 09:21 PM
Why was Cousins a 4th rounder? Size? Arm Strength? I know nothing about him.

Marcellus
12-16-2012, 09:23 PM
I would imagine it will go something like this...

"Draft [insert QB's name here] in the first round!!!!!"

Yea me and my brother were talking today about being an executive or GM. In the NFL or business or whatever your profession is if you are in a leadership position you will make mistakes, its how you address the mistake that will define whether you are good at your job or not.

I dont blame Pioli for trading for Cassel, I blame him for not fixing the mistake by now.

SNR
12-16-2012, 09:24 PM
Look I said I want a QB #1 overall I am not saying dont take one, take the chance please.

I am just curious as to how people will react if its a bust 2 years in.

Are we talking GIANT bust, or just kind of meh bust?

If it's a meh bust, we should keep drafting QBs, but continue to roll with Smith. Lots of QBs don't become instant great players their first two years in the league. But they at least show FLASHES of brilliance. If Geno Smith has that, then we can't afford to move on that quickly.

If it's a giant bust, then absolutely we need to draft more QBs. QBs at a higher premium, in fact.

So... in either situation I guess we draft QBs.

jd1020
12-16-2012, 09:27 PM
Why was Cousins a 4th rounder? Size? Arm Strength? I know nothing about him.

Nothing spectacular about anything he did. Smaller size, average arm, decent mobility, questionable decision making. Pretty much 2nd rate everything.

Deberg_1990
12-16-2012, 09:32 PM
Nothing spectacular about anything he did. Smaller size, average arm, decent mobility, questionable decision making. Pretty much 2nd rate everything.

OK then.........this is why top 10 QBs are drafted where they are then. Based on measurables and upside. I mean, if you are gonna throw that kind of coin at a guy, they better be physical freaks with a high upside. Its all a gamble and those guys typically have the highest probability of success.

htismaqe
12-17-2012, 08:00 AM
Good fucking Christ, what is wrong with this place?

Kirk Cousins, coming out of college, was an IDENTICAL prospect to Ricky FUCKING Stanzi.

High intangibles, low tangibles, high floor, low ceiling. Carried by a great defense and strong running game.

The difference between him and Stanzi in the NFL? MIKE SHANAHAN.

Mike Shanahan made Brian Griese and Bubby Brister look good for Christ's sake.

He played about 6 quarters, if we give up ANY draft picks for this fuckhead instead of drafting a QB, we deserve to wallow in mediocrity for the next 30 years just like we have for the last 30.

htismaqe
12-17-2012, 08:01 AM
Why does it matter if we drafted him? You act like proclaiming him qbotf and drafting him is going to make him magically a hall of famer.

What's the ONE method we haven't used to acquire a QB in the last 3 decades?

There's only ONE.

Yep, THAT is why it matters.

jspchief
12-17-2012, 08:34 AM
Why was Cousins a 4th rounder? Size? Arm Strength? I know nothing about him.Average everything.

The guy is a textbook backup QB prospect. He'll come in and not fuck anything up royally. He'll also never be a true franchise QB. Think Alex Smith, but not as good. Brady Quinn.

And as soon as teams start to collect film on him, he's going to look exactly like the backup that he is.

Mile High Mania
12-17-2012, 10:22 AM
I don't think Cousins is bad, but they were playing the Browns...

I think Shanahan would flip him for a nice R2 pick in a heartbeat, question is - will there be a team that offers something like that?

Right now, he has what could be a nice backup QB for a cheap price until someone comes along and wishes to make him an offer that he can't refuse.

Setsuna
12-17-2012, 05:29 PM
Now Jags fans are calling for to trade a second and possibly a first for this joker. I'm about to go ape shit on this idiot fanbase of epic proportions. I responded accordingly by saying I don't want to end up like the Chiefs and be Casseled.

htismaqe
12-17-2012, 05:45 PM
Now Jags fans are calling for to trade a second and possibly a first for this joker. I'm about to go ape shit on this idiot fanbase of epic proportions. I responded accordingly by saying I don't want to end up like the Chiefs and be Casseled.

ROFL

Sounds like KC.

Terribilis
12-17-2012, 06:36 PM
There is a good quarterback in every draft. I can't recall a draft where there was not a single good QB to come out of the class.

The only issue to me is whether the Chiefs are capable of identifying the good one in this draft.

Rams Fan
12-17-2012, 06:39 PM
There is a good quarterback in every draft. I can't recall a draft where there was not a single good QB to come out of the class.

The only issue to me is whether the Chiefs are capable of identifying the good one in this draft.

2007 NFL draft.

Best 2 QBs are Kolb and Matt Moore(an UDFA).

Terribilis
12-17-2012, 06:41 PM
2007 NFL draft.

Best 2 QBs are Kolb and Matt Moore(an UDFA).
My memory quits after 5 years.

something cooler
12-17-2012, 07:11 PM
2007 NFL draft.

Best 2 QBs are Kolb and Matt Moore(an UDFA).

UCK.

Molitoth
12-17-2012, 07:17 PM
It's kinda funny how many people shit on Kirk Cousins during the draft and now people want to give up draft picks for him after a few quarters of football.

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-17-2012, 07:18 PM
It's kinda funny how many people shit on Kirk Cousins during the draft and now people want to give up draft picks for him after a few quarters of football.

Welcome to ChiefsPlanet. Craving other team's leftovers since 2000.

ILChief
12-17-2012, 07:42 PM
It's kinda funny how many people shit on Kirk Cousins during the draft and now people want to give up draft picks for him after a few quarters of football.

All I read leading up to the draft was he was Cassel 2.0

Thig Lyfe
12-17-2012, 09:06 PM
2007 NFL draft.

Best 2 QBs are Kolb and Matt Moore(an UDFA).

AHEM.

I believe you're forgetting TYLER FUCKING THIGPEN.

keg in kc
12-17-2012, 09:07 PM
AHEM.

I believe you're forgetting TYLER ****ING THIGPEN.
No, but I'm trying to.

Thig Lyfe
12-17-2012, 09:22 PM
No, but I'm trying to.

Yeah, I guess it's hard to think about what could have been if he had stayed...

We'd be celebrating yet another 19-0 season soon.

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-17-2012, 09:24 PM
Inflatable cheeseburger has been jumped

Bump
12-17-2012, 09:32 PM
Welcome to ChiefsPlanet. Craving other team's leftovers since 2000.

is Kirk Cousins a left over? I mean, he is a rookie and showing lots of promise and winning games....

Not saying we should trade for him, but he's not exactly a retread either.

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-17-2012, 10:33 PM
It would still qualify as yet another dealing for another team's backup instead of drafting our own. Worked sooooo great in the past!!!!

J Diddy
12-17-2012, 10:48 PM
What's the ONE method we haven't used to acquire a QB in the last 3 decades?

There's only ONE.

Yep, THAT is why it matters.

We have drafted a quarterback in the last 3 decades.

DaneMcCloud
12-17-2012, 10:57 PM
I believe you're forgetting TYLER FUCKING THIGPEN.

Your shit is SO played out

:nosmilie:

BossChief
12-17-2012, 11:01 PM
Stanzi is Cousins with a better arm.

J Diddy
12-17-2012, 11:50 PM
Stanzi is Cousins with a better arm.

Then save the 2nd rounder and let him play.

htismaqe
12-18-2012, 08:40 AM
We have drafted a quarterback in the last 3 decades.

Not a franchise QB, no.

We haven't drafted a real bonafide guy that was going to compete for the job in training camp since 1983.

Try again.

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-18-2012, 08:42 AM
Not a franchise QB, no.

We haven't drafted a real bonafide guy that was going to compete for the job in training camp since 1983.

Try again.

...and Kirk Cousins wouldn't have been that guy either :D

unnecessary drama
12-18-2012, 09:10 AM
I thought stanzi looked awful at the combine while cousins looked pretty good...but I was also a big ponder fan

jspchief
12-18-2012, 09:39 AM
It's kinda funny how many people shit on Kirk Cousins during the draft and now people want to give up draft picks for him after a few quarters of football.the same people?

I imagine the ones shitting on Cousins at draft time still realize what he is.

htismaqe
12-18-2012, 09:58 AM
the same people?

I imagine the ones shitting on Cousins at draft time still realize what he is.

Exactly.

htismaqe
12-18-2012, 09:59 AM
I thought stanzi looked awful at the combine while cousins looked pretty good...but I was also a big ponder fan

Marshall Faulk and a couple others on NFLN thought Stanzi had some of the best throws at the combine.

Just sayin.

Thig Lyfe
12-18-2012, 10:35 AM
Your shit is SO played out

:nosmilie:

AS IF

Nightfyre
12-18-2012, 10:35 AM
the same people?

I imagine the ones shitting on Cousins at draft time still realize what he is.

This. You learn to avoid threads like these where people are blind to anything but a single-game stat line.

Thig Lyfe
12-18-2012, 10:59 AM
Your shit is SO played out

:nosmilie:

WHEN IS THAT SMILE GONNA COME 'ROUND

:(