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Mr. Laz
12-18-2012, 11:31 AM
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1378/ralph134.jpg

:sulk:


took him to the vet to get his teeth cleaned and it/they killed him :#


don't use Cherokee Animal Clinic in Overland Park,KS

Dayze
12-18-2012, 11:35 AM
dang man..
Ralph looks like he could play RT

TrebMaxx
12-18-2012, 11:35 AM
Bummer. RIP Ralph.

the Talking Can
12-18-2012, 11:36 AM
wtf?

as a cat person, very sorry to hear it...terrible

tooge
12-18-2012, 11:37 AM
Sorry man. Happened to my dog two years ago. We changed vets.

I'mAlwaysRight
12-18-2012, 11:38 AM
That's terrible, sorry for your loss. Ralph looks like a good ol' boy. RIP Ralph.

Dayze
12-18-2012, 11:38 AM
I'd be irrate if that happened

tooge
12-18-2012, 11:39 AM
what did the vet say happened? Underlying disease? wtf?

Easy 6
12-18-2012, 11:39 AM
Sorry to hear that, where did this vet get his doctorate, the university of lower budapest?

Flachief58
12-18-2012, 11:40 AM
Sorry to hear. RIP

Mr. Laz
12-18-2012, 11:42 AM
what did the vet say happened? Underlying disease? wtf?
He swears that Ralph hadn't even gone under anesthesia yet ... just the initial relaxing type shot.

Said kitty had a heart attack even though he admits that Ralph had shown zero signs of any heart condition in the initial exam today or any previous exam.

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-18-2012, 11:43 AM
Cats rock and Ralph looks like he rocked hard. Sorry to hear the news.

On a side note I'm never going to the dentist again.

htismaqe
12-18-2012, 11:44 AM
He swears that Ralph hadn't even gone under anesthesia yet ... just the initial relaxing type shot.

Said kitty had a heart attack even though he admits that Ralph had shown zero signs of any heart condition in the initial exam today or any previous exam.

Holy crap. That's horrible.

ptlyon
12-18-2012, 11:44 AM
Bye Ralph - I hardly knew ya!

Mr. Laz
12-18-2012, 11:45 AM
Cats rock and Ralph looks like he rocked hard. Sorry to hear the news.

On a side note I'm never going to the dentist again.
He did ROCK


I can't really think straight right now ... pit in my stomach and brain is all fucked up. :deevee:

Tribal Warfare
12-18-2012, 11:45 AM
He swears that Ralph hadn't even gone under anesthesia yet ... just the initial relaxing type shot.

Said kitty had a heart attack even though he admits that Ralph had shown zero signs of any heart condition in the initial exam today or any previous exam.

Fuck, I'd sue for all they got. That's malpractice and is essentially killing a family member.

cosmo20002
12-18-2012, 11:45 AM
:sulk:
took him to the vet to get his teeth cleaned and it/they killed him :#

Sorry about your loss.

They really seem to be pushing the teeth cleanings nowadays. I assume it is a highly profitable service. I'm sure they are important to some degree, but I never liked the idea of having to put them out with general anesthesia just for a teeth cleaning. Had it for my dogs once, but only because they needed some other surgery and were going to be under anyway.

tooge
12-18-2012, 11:47 AM
Cats rock and Ralph looks like he rocked hard. Sorry to hear the news.

On a side note I'm never going to the dentist again.

Yeah, you should start going to the vet instead. much safer

cosmo20002
12-18-2012, 11:50 AM
****, I'd sue for all they got. That's malpractice and is essentially killing a family member.

I agree, but legally a pet is usually just a piece of property, and a not very valuable one. Plus proving malpractice is really difficult. If you make enough noise about it, you might get a small "go-away" settlement.

tooge
12-18-2012, 11:52 AM
actually, you probably won't get shit. Change vets just because otherwise it'll be awkward. Truth is, anesthesia and animals is a very vague science and this happens alot. Still sad, but not lawsuit worthy.

htismaqe
12-18-2012, 11:53 AM
Sorry about your loss.

They really seem to be pushing the teeth cleanings nowadays. I assume it is a highly profitable service. I'm sure they are important to some degree, but I never liked the idea of having to put them out with general anesthesia just for a teeth cleaning. Had it for my dogs once, but only because they needed some other surgery and were going to be under anyway.

This.

They push it hard and I've heard them try to suggest lately that tooth decay leads to heart disease, kidney failure, and all kinds of other maladies (it isn't limited to vets and pets either, my dentist does it too).

Bottom line - feed your cat or dog a hard kibble and take them to the vet when you HAVE TO.

SNR
12-18-2012, 11:54 AM
The vet insisted our old cat get her teeth cleaned as the "healthy thing to do" even though she's 16 years old and slowing down.

We said we weren't going to put her through that much stress just to get her teeth cleaned. We were worried something like this might happen.

Very sorry for your loss, Laz. There are tons of good vets out there just like there are lots of good doctors out there, but I'm sure there are also crap vets that don't do their homework in situations like this.

Tribal Warfare
12-18-2012, 11:54 AM
I agree, but legally a pet is usually just a piece of property, and a not very valuable one. Plus proving malpractice is really difficult. If you make enough noise about it, you might get a small "go-away" settlement.

Not in my family we have $Blue Blood$ German Shepherds. It isn't difficult if it's clear as day. A pet in above average health suddenly dies it's a gripe.

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-18-2012, 11:55 AM
I hope they don't bill you Laz. If they do throw it back in their face.

Mr. Laz
12-18-2012, 11:57 AM
Bill me?

The are lucky i don't go and burn the entire fucking building down.

Mr. Laz
12-18-2012, 11:59 AM
The vet insisted our old cat get her teeth cleaned as the "healthy thing to do" even though she's 16 years old and slowing down.

We said we weren't going to put her through that much stress just to get her teeth cleaned. We were worried something like this might happen.

Very sorry for your loss, Laz. There are tons of good vets out there just like there are lots of good doctors out there, but I'm sure there are also crap vets that don't do their homework in situations like this.
thanks

Ralph was 9-ish (rescue, so don't know exactly)

I resisted the constant pressure from vet to clean his teeth again but cat was starting to avoid dry food and i thought it might be his teeth so i gave in ........


:(

Flachief58
12-18-2012, 12:00 PM
He swears that Ralph hadn't even gone under anesthesia yet ... just the initial relaxing type shot.

Said kitty had a heart attack even though he admits that Ralph had shown zero signs of any heart condition in the initial exam today or any previous exam.

Damn that's horrible. Not that it's any consolation but, the Mrs is a vet tech and says things like this happen from time to time.

Again, sorry for your loss

Buck
12-18-2012, 12:01 PM
RIP Ralphie.

cosmo20002
12-18-2012, 12:01 PM
The vet insisted our old cat get her teeth cleaned as the "healthy thing to do" even though she's 16 years old and slowing down.


Yeah, that's bullshit. At that age, the risk of dying from or having severe problems from their teeth is not worth the risk of putting an elderly animal under general anesthesia. I don't think its worth the risk on a younger pet either, unless they already have to be under for some other serious reason.

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-18-2012, 12:02 PM
Bill me?

The are lucky i don't go and burn the entire ****ing building down.

I'm just sayin... they could. They used some amount of drugs and time and they may. I hope they know better but in this day and age you never know.

Deberg_1990
12-18-2012, 12:03 PM
Wow, sorry to hear this...

Reminds me of that scene in Fabulous Baker Boys at the Vet.

htismaqe
12-18-2012, 12:05 PM
thanks

Ralph was 9-ish (rescue, so don't know exactly)

I resisted the constant pressure from vet to clean his teeth again but cat was starting to avoid dry food and i thought it might be his teeth so i gave in ........


:(

Was avoiding dry food and opting to NOT EAT AT ALL?

Or were you supplementing dry food with canned and he was opting to ignore dry food until you gave in and gave him canned food?

There's really no reason whatsoever to feed our pets canned food.

Buehler445
12-18-2012, 12:07 PM
He swears that Ralph hadn't even gone under anesthesia yet ... just the initial relaxing type shot.

Said kitty had a heart attack even though he admits that Ralph had shown zero signs of any heart condition in the initial exam today or any previous exam.

Fuck man, sorry to hear that. But you know, it's better than some painful horrible death that a lot of cats face. Our shop cat got really fucking sick and went into the attic and died. I'm sure this was much more pleasant.

Sorry for your loss dude. The longer I live with Chief Dog, the more certain I am that pets are better than 95% of humans.

Bill me?

The are lucky i don't go and burn the entire fucking building down.

ROFL

Burn motherfucker Burn!

MahiMike
12-18-2012, 12:10 PM
took him to the vet to get his teeth cleaned and it/they killed him :#

WTH? Did he swallow the floss?

WilliamTheIrish
12-18-2012, 12:14 PM
He swears that Ralph hadn't even gone under anesthesia yet ... just the initial relaxing type shot.

Said kitty had a heart attack even though he admits that Ralph had shown zero signs of any heart condition in the initial exam today or any previous exam.


Happens a lot with dogs and cats. It really does. Most vets are pretty good people. But they lose patients unexpectedly to strange circumstances just like people doctors.

Ebolapox
12-18-2012, 12:16 PM
damn, man. sorry for your loss. I prefer my cats (and most cats) over 99% of all the people that I know.

BigCatDaddy
12-18-2012, 12:18 PM
Wow. I was going to set up an appt to get my dogs teeth cleaned, but now am having 2nd thoughts.

Mr. Flopnuts
12-18-2012, 12:22 PM
This.

They push it hard and I've heard them try to suggest lately that tooth decay leads to heart disease, kidney failure, and all kinds of other maladies (it isn't limited to vets and pets either, my dentist does it too).

Bottom line - feed your cat or dog a hard kibble and take them to the vet when you HAVE TO.

You know outside of getting her spayed and getting her shots my 8 year old Jack Russell Wilson Terrier has never been to the vet. Never saw a need since she's always happy and normal. Reading this story makes me feel A LOT less guilty about that. Sorry Laz. That really, really sucks.

htismaqe
12-18-2012, 12:26 PM
You know outside of getting her spayed and getting her shots my 8 year old Jack Russell Wilson Terrier has never been to the vet. Never saw a need since she's always happy and normal. Reading this story makes me feel A LOT less guilty about that. Sorry Laz. That really, really sucks.

We have a REALLY good vet right now.

On Saturday, we had one of our indoor/outdoor cats attacked by either a stray dog or a coyote. He was losing a lot of blood so I called the vet.

He walked me through how to tell how much blood the cat was losing and how to tell if he was in danger of losing too much blood or going into shock. He gave me instructions on how to treat the wound and control the pain without using any medications.

Since it happened on a Saturday night, after dark, I figure he saved me over $200 in vet bills just by spending 10 minutes on the phone with me. And it saved him a trip to the office.

O.city
12-18-2012, 12:31 PM
Tooth decay absolutely can lead to those things, but it's not highly likely and is pretty rare.

Key being, just go to the dentist every 6 months.

Graystoke
12-18-2012, 12:32 PM
Wow, that just sucks.
Sorry to hear that.
I have a protocol with my cats, which happen to be great cats, and outside.
No Vet unless need shots, are deadly sick or have a fish hook caught in their mouths.

Sorry again.

htismaqe
12-18-2012, 12:33 PM
Tooth decay absolutely can lead to those things, but it's not highly likely and is pretty rare.

Key being, just go to the dentist every 6 months.

Preventing tooth decay doesn't necessarily require twice-a-year professional "cleanings" at $200-$300 a pop...

DeezNutz
12-18-2012, 12:34 PM
Sorry to hear this, man.

htismaqe
12-18-2012, 12:34 PM
Wow, that just sucks.
Sorry to hear that.
I have a protocol with my cats, which happen to be great cats, and outside.
No Vet unless need shots, are deadly sick or have a fish hook caught in their mouths.

Sorry again.

For my outdoor cats, I administer all the shots/vaccines.

tooge
12-18-2012, 12:40 PM
This.

They push it hard and I've heard them try to suggest lately that tooth decay leads to heart disease, kidney failure, and all kinds of other maladies (it isn't limited to vets and pets either, my dentist does it too).

Bottom line - feed your cat or dog a hard kibble and take them to the vet when you HAVE TO.

Heh. It's not tooth decay that leads to heart disease, it's periodontal disease (gum disease), and the link is 100% accurate.

htismaqe
12-18-2012, 12:44 PM
Heh. It's not tooth decay that leads to heart disease, it's periodontal disease (gum disease), and the link is 100% accurate.

Quibbling on a technicality.

Gum disease, tooth decay, it's all the same.

Your cat or dog is NOT going to die if you don't get their teeth cleaned twice a year. In fact, they have a much higher percentage chance of dying from the anesthesia than from not having their teeth cleaned.

Unfortunately, Laz found that out the hard way.

tooge
12-18-2012, 12:48 PM
I agree with you there. They aren't going to die. It is a good idea to give them plenty of hard chews and make sure they don't get gum disease. If they do, then, yes, they can and do die from it.

burt
12-18-2012, 12:50 PM
Laz, sux....condolences.

htismaqe
12-18-2012, 12:54 PM
I agree with you there. They aren't going to die. It is a good idea to give them plenty of hard chews and make sure they don't get gum disease. If they do, then, yes, they can and do die from it.

OK, we absolutely agree then. :toast:

journeyscarab
12-18-2012, 12:56 PM
Sorry for your loss. Cats are awesome and he looks like he was a cool cat. RIP Ralph.

Graystoke
12-18-2012, 12:57 PM
For my outdoor cats, I administer all the shots/vaccines.

Sorry, that is where I draw the line with pussy.

shakesthecat
12-18-2012, 01:26 PM
Sorry Laz.

He sure was a great looking cat!

Demonpenz
12-18-2012, 01:29 PM
Sorry. Sounds like you were doing what you needed to do. Nature/God had other plans. Hope you get a new cat.

Frazod
12-18-2012, 06:15 PM
That sucks, man. :(

One of ours died at the vet's office a few years ago. She developed an intestinal block and we didn't notice it until it was too late. They had her for three days - first night we thought she was done for and braced ourselves, but the second night she seemed better and we thought she'd pull through. The phone rang at 9:00 the next morning.

And, of course, the dead cat came with a $600 vet bill. Hopefully you were at least sparred that indignity.

And I concur with being very leery of the shit they're paid to peddle. Our old vet pushed Science Diet pet food, for example, which is both shitty and overpriced. We don't use them anymore.

Chief Roundup
12-18-2012, 06:23 PM
My sister took her cat in to get a cleaning. While there they said the cat had a couple of bad teeth so they pulled them. She wouldn't eat after that. After a day they called the vet and the vet said it was normal. Next day the cat was dead when they woke up. The vet said well sometimes when a cat won't eat it has just made up its mind to die. They feel like the vet basicly killed the cat but there is nothing they can really do.


Sorry to hear about your loss man it sucks.

PRIEST
12-18-2012, 06:31 PM
RIP Ralphie.





This

DomerNKC
12-18-2012, 07:21 PM
sorry dude...

Valiant
12-18-2012, 07:22 PM
The vet insisted our old cat get her teeth cleaned as the "healthy thing to do" even though she's 16 years old and slowing down.

We said we weren't going to put her through that much stress just to get her teeth cleaned. We were worried something like this might happen.

Very sorry for your loss, Laz. There are tons of good vets out there just like there are lots of good doctors out there, but I'm sure there are also crap vets that don't do their homework in situations like this.

Are dog is 13, never had her teeth cleaned.. Breath stinks, but that is understandable.. Most 80yo breath stinks..

I am afraid of the same thing.. Sorry for your pet loss..

cdcox
12-18-2012, 07:25 PM
Dang, that sucks. Sorry Laz.

chasedude
12-18-2012, 07:28 PM
Wow Laz! So sorry to hear that. I feel for you loss of a cool friend.

mlyonsd
12-18-2012, 07:49 PM
Sorry Laz for your loss. I had to put our 14 year old cat down in October. One doesn't think much about a cat until they leave the family.

Hydrae
12-18-2012, 08:00 PM
He was a big boy!

That is a tragic way to lose a friend. I am sorry it happened this way.

threebag02
12-18-2012, 09:16 PM
RIP Ralphy Boy

petegz28
12-18-2012, 09:18 PM
Sorry to hear. I have had my dog's teeth cleaned twice and I felt bad each time. I won't do it again. It's so hard on them but the Vets insist it has to be done.

GloryDayz
12-18-2012, 09:20 PM
Wow!!!!!!!!!!! Dentist fail!

Sorry to hear it man!

La literatura
12-18-2012, 09:21 PM
I've never heard of anything like that happening before. Really crazy. Sorry to hear, Laz.

mikeyis4dcats.
12-18-2012, 09:22 PM
sorry to hear that. we got back from puerto vallarta last week late and had to take our cat to the vet and have him put down. that sucked.

Bugeater
12-18-2012, 09:25 PM
Well that sucks complete ass. Sorry Laz.

O.city
12-18-2012, 09:30 PM
Preventing tooth decay doesn't necessarily require twice-a-year professional "cleanings" at $200-$300 a pop...

Sure it does. :)


It doesn't hurt tho. I'll put it this way, would you rather pay 400 bucks per year and keep them clean, or not pay it for a year or two and pay 4000 for a RC and crown.

mikeyis4dcats.
12-18-2012, 09:41 PM
actually, aside from decay, dental cleanings in pets is mostly important for preventing bacterial infections that can cause serious liver and heart problems.

listopencil
12-19-2012, 01:11 AM
Wow, I have never heard of that happening. Sorry to hear that.

bricks
12-19-2012, 02:25 AM
My condolensces Laz.

htismaqe
12-19-2012, 06:40 AM
Sure it does. :)


It doesn't hurt tho. I'll put it this way, would you rather pay 400 bucks per year and keep them clean, or not pay it for a year or two and pay 4000 for a RC and crown.

Never heard of a pet getting a root canal and crown.

Furthermore, the only root canal I've ever had was because I cracked a filling that was put in when I was 7.

I've had my teeth cleaned probably 3 times in my entire adult life and I have "some of the best teeth" my dentist has "ever seen".

So thanks. You can think it doesn't hurt if you want - I think Laz would beg to differ.

Don't anesthetize your pets for GETTING THEIR TEETH CLEANED.

htismaqe
12-19-2012, 06:42 AM
actually, aside from decay, dental cleanings in pets is mostly important for preventing bacterial infections that can cause serious liver and heart problems.

The stories like Laz' (pets dying under anesthesia) are everywhere. Yet somehow, I don't see a bunch of stories about how someone's pet died because they didn't get their teeth cleaned.

tooge
12-19-2012, 08:35 AM
Wow!!!!!!!!!!! Dentist fail!

Sorry to hear it man!

Can we please be clear that this WASN'T A DENTIST, IT WAS A VETERANARIAN TRYING TO BE A DENTIST. There is a big difference. Give your dog or cat hard food and chews and bones to keep their teeth clean.

htismaqe
12-19-2012, 08:41 AM
Can we please be clear that this WASN'T A DENTIST, IT WAS A VETERANARIAN TRYING TO BE A DENTIST. There is a big difference. Give your dog or cat hard food and chews and bones to keep their teeth clean.

:bravo:

And please be sure to give your dogs GOOD bones - beef bones that have not been cooked/boiled, or bully sticks. Rawhide is hard on their digestive system and cooked bones can splinter and kill a dog.

Extra Point
12-19-2012, 08:44 AM
RIP Ralph.

mikey23545
12-19-2012, 08:49 AM
Ralph was a big, good lookin' boy...I bet he was a cool old kitty...

So, so sorry you lost him, Laz, especially the way you did. Deepest condolences for losing a member of your family.

Fried Meat Ball!
12-19-2012, 09:10 AM
Sorry for your loss, Laz. Ralph looked like a cool cat. I'm still not over losing my Rosebud, but once you grieve, new kitties will help.

Mr. Laz
12-19-2012, 09:37 AM
Thanks to all


btw - if you live in the O.P. area don't let the Cherokee Animal Clinic clean you pet's teeth


bastards!! :cuss:


i would like to Belcher the entire lot of them

Al Czervik
12-19-2012, 09:45 AM
That sucks Laz....sorry to hear that....
RIP to Ralph and screw the Cherokee Animal Clinic

Richard_Cuckold
12-19-2012, 10:05 AM
that sucks. Really sorry for your loss

Rain Man
12-19-2012, 10:21 AM
I'm sorry to hear about this. It's tragic that it happened while you were doing good for him.

Dayze
12-19-2012, 11:02 AM
my wife would need to take 2 weeks bereavment if that happened to one of our dogs.