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Mr. Laz
12-18-2012, 04:54 PM
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F indicates positions TBD by coin flip

* Note that the opponent's cumulative W-L record is based on each team's full 16-game schedule and no just on the games they have played to date.</small>
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** Indicates W-L record of remaining oppponents</small>
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</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Team
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>*W-L
</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>Opp W-L %</small>
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>Remaining games
</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>**W-L</small>
</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td>1</td><td><small>Kansas City</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">2-12</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.500</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Indianapolis; @ Denver
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">20-8</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td>2
</td><td>Jacksonville</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">2-12</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.540</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">New England; @ Tennessee
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"> 15-13</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td>3
</td><td>Oakland</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">4-10</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.455</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Carolina; @ San Diego
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"> 10-18</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td><dt>4
</dt></td><td><dt>Philadelphia</dt></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">4-10
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.513</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Washington; @ NY Giants
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">16-12
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">5
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Detroit
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">4-10</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.567
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Atlanta; Chicago
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">20-8</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td><dt>6
</dt></td><td><dt>San Diego</dt></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">5-9</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.460</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ NY Jets; Oakland
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">10-18</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">7</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Buffalo
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;">5-9</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.491</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Miami; NY Jets
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">12-16</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">8</td><td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Cleveland</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">5-9</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.500</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Denver; @ Pittsburgh
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">18-10
</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td><dt>9</dt></td><td><dt>Carolina</dt></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">5-9</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.513</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Oakland; @ New Orleans
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">10-18
</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><td><dt>10</dt></td><td>Tennessee</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">5-9</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.518</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Green Bay; Jacksonville
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">12-16
</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><td>11
</td><td>Arizona</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">5-9</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.563</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Chicago; @ San Francisco
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">18-9-1</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td style="vertical-align: top;">12
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Tampa Bay</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">6-8
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.493</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">St. Louis; @ Atlanta
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">18-9-1
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">13
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Miami
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;">6-8</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.504
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Buffalo; @ New England
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">15-13</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">14
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">NY Jets</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;">6-8</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.504</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">San Diego; @ Buffalo
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">10-18
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">15
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">New Orleans</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;">6-8</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.520</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Dallas; Carolina
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">13-15
</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td>16</td><td>St. Louis
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">6-7-1</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.540</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Tampa Bay; @ Seattle
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">15-13
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">17</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Pittsburgh</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">7-7</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.469</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Cincinnati; Cleveland
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">13-15
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top;">18</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Dallas</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">8-6
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.513</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">New Orleans; @ Washington
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">14-14</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;" align="left"><td style="vertical-align: top;">19
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Chicago
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">8-6</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.513</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Arizona; @ Detroit
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">9-19</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td>20</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">NY Giants
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">8-6</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.529</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Baltimore; Philadelphia
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">13-15</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top;">21P</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Cincinnati</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">8-6</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;">.446</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Pittsburgh; Baltimore
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">16-12</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td>22P</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">St. Louis (from Washington)
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">8-6</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.502</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Philadelphia; Dallas
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">12-16
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">23P</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Minnesota</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">8-6
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;">.518</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Houston; Green Bay
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">22-6
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">24P
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Indianapolis</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;">9-5</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.455</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Kansas City; Houston
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">14-14
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top;">25P
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Baltimore</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">9-5</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.500</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">NY Giants; @ Cincinnati
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">16-12
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top;">26P
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Seattle
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">9-5</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.509
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">San Francisco; St. Louis
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">16-10-2</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td style="vertical-align: top;">27P
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Green Bay
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">10-4
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.500
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Tennessee; @ Minnesota
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">13-15
</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td>28P
</td><td>New England</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">10-3</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.505</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Jacksonville; Miami
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">8-20</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">29P
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">San Francisco</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">10-3-1</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;">.500</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Seattle; Arizona
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">14-14</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td style="vertical-align: top;">30P</td><td>Denver</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">11-3</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.455</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Cleveland; Kansas City
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">7-21</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold;"><td style="vertical-align: top;">31P
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">Atlanta</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">12-2</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.415</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">@ Detroit; Tampa Bay
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">10-18
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">32P
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Houston</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">12-2</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.487</td><td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>Minnesota; @ Indianapolis</small>
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>17-11</small></td></tr></tbody></table>
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the Talking Can
12-18-2012, 04:58 PM
how in hell is detroit 4-10...schwartz is a terrible coach

SNR
12-18-2012, 04:58 PM
Fuck you, Jacksonville. Go be the largest municipality in a highly populated state that nobody cares about at all!

CaliforniaChief
12-18-2012, 04:58 PM
So the way I see it is that the magic number is 2:

1. 1 Chiefs loss + 1 Jaguars win.

2. 2 Chiefs lossess

3. 2 Jaguars wins.

I suppose Oakland could get #1 if we win out, Jax wins out, and Oak loses out.

Looking good.

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-18-2012, 04:58 PM
Gonna suck having the Jags pick first in round 2.

Chief Roundup
12-18-2012, 05:01 PM
Top 4 teams all need QB's depending on the Eagles opinion of Foles.

CaliforniaChief
12-18-2012, 05:03 PM
I'd rather pick first in the first round than in the second.

Mr. Laz
12-18-2012, 05:03 PM
Jags will get destroyed by New England next week but they can beat Tennessee.

the Talking Can
12-18-2012, 05:06 PM
1 Kansas City
2 Jacksonville
3 Oakland
4 Philadelphia



7 Buffalo
8 Cleveland

11Arizona


14NY Jets


all those teams will be looking for a QB, imo...with the jets, cardinals, and bills willing to move up

Sorter
12-18-2012, 05:08 PM
how in hell is detroit 4-10...schwartz is a terrible coach

To be fair, Stafford has been terrible in the red zone this year, as well as the first half of games. I don't think Schwartz is the answer their but I'm not going to lump all of the blame on him. If he doesn't produce next year, provided they upgrade at WR, RCB, safety, and find another edge rusher whilst retaining Avril, I think they'll be competing for a WC spot.

KC_Lee
12-18-2012, 05:11 PM
Jags will get destroyed by New England next week but they can beat Tennessee.

Jax will beat TN, count on it. The owner has not extended Munch's contract and the players know that he may be dumped soon.

the Talking Can
12-18-2012, 05:13 PM
To be fair, Stafford has been terrible in the red zone this year, as well as the first half of games. I don't think Schwartz is the answer their but I'm not going to lump all of the blame on him. If he doesn't produce next year, provided they upgrade at WR, RCB, safety, and find another edge rusher whilst retaining Avril, I think they'll be competing for a WC spot.


stafford has been disappointing, but you should be able to coach those tools into something better, imo, or devise a better system

....but maybe stafford is just stubborn

Sorter
12-18-2012, 05:22 PM
stafford has been disappointing, but you should be able to coach those tools into something better, imo, or devise a better system

....but maybe stafford is just stubborn

I'd probably say it is both, in addition to him having essentially a "sophomore slump". Last year was his first full year. I do think that Stafford has potential to be elite once the top tier guys (Brees, Brady, Manning) retire.

Chief Roundup
12-18-2012, 05:24 PM
1 Kansas City
2 Jacksonville
3 Oakland
4 Philadelphia



7 Buffalo
8 Cleveland

11Arizona


14NY Jets


all those teams will be looking for a QB, imo...with the jets, cardinals, and bills willing to move up

The bottum half of that list will be missing out.
The Raiders might be in a good position. If the first 2 picks are QB. There will be some teams wanting to secure that QB.
Just can't really see more than 4 QB's going in the first.

the Talking Can
12-18-2012, 05:28 PM
The bottum half of that list will be missing out.
The Raiders might be in a good position. If the first 2 picks are QB. There will be some teams wanting to secure that QB.
Just can't really see more than 4 QB's going in the first.

i don't think there are more than 3 worth it...but the pressure for a QB will definitely bump some up

i bet barkley goes by 15 and glennon goes top-20 (which is nuts) if the hype on him continues...

Sorter
12-18-2012, 05:29 PM
The bottum half of that list will be missing out.
The Raiders might be in a good position. If the first 2 picks are QB. There will be some teams wanting to secure that QB.
Just can't really see more than 4 QB's going in the first.

I could see hypothetically, a team falling in love with Nassib/Glennon and taking either at the end of the 1st round. I doubt it but fuck, Weeden was a 1st round pick.

BigMeatballDave
12-18-2012, 05:30 PM
If the Chiefs and Jags both finish 2-14, who gets #1?

Sorter
12-18-2012, 05:31 PM
If the Chiefs and Jags both finish 2-14, who gets #1?

We do via Strength of Schedule

ChiefsandO'sfan
12-18-2012, 05:31 PM
If the Chiefs and Jags both finish 2-14, who gets #1?

Chiefs but then it flip flops every round.

BigMeatballDave
12-18-2012, 05:32 PM
We do via Strength of Schedule

Okay, thanks. Wasn't clear on how that worked.

Sorter
12-18-2012, 05:34 PM
Chiefs but then it flip flops every round.

Yup. Here's to hoping the Jags beat Tennessee. Weeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!

Nightfyre
12-18-2012, 05:49 PM
how in hell is detroit 4-10...schwartz is a terrible coach

This was my first thought as well.

Big Chief Homer
12-18-2012, 06:11 PM
No way we win either one of our last 2 games

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs71

If the Broncos win one and the Patriots lose 1 game. The Broncos clinch a 1st round bye. The Broncos win out and they still clinch bye


Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs71

The #Colts can clinch a playoff spot with a victory over the #Chiefs

Both teams still have everything to play for.

Dayze
12-18-2012, 06:45 PM
bring in Stanzi and let's keep this suckage going!

Count Zarth
12-18-2012, 09:58 PM
how in hell is detroit 4-10...schwartz is a terrible coach

Losing follows Gunther like a bad penny.