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Count Alex's Losses
12-18-2012, 11:23 PM
Well shit, thanks for those words, Matt. The best shit out of your mouth all year. In fact...thanks for speaking in past tense. :D

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/18/3972141/kc-may-have-seen-the-last-of-the.html

Six years is usually a long enough time to get to know a person. But Kansas City knows just one side of Dwayne Bowe, the persona he hauled out on fall Sundays.

The rest of his story may be known only to those who worked side by side with him for the Chiefs.

“People think Dwayne Bowe is one of those diva wide receivers, a loud-mouthed guy and all that,” quarterback Matt Cassel said. “But that’s not what he is at all. If you go around this locker room and talk to everyone, not one guy would say they have a problem with Dwayne Bowe and the manner he goes about his business.

“That’s the thing about Dwayne. A lot of people only see him on game day. He likes to have fun. He might do a touchdown celebration where he points to the back of his jersey and do all that. But that’s just for show. He’s not one of those guys who comes back to the huddle screaming for the ball or cussing people out. He’s respectful to players. He’s respectful to coaches. He’s not one of those guys that talks back. He just gets his work done. And then on Sunday, you know what? It’s OK to have some fun.”

Kansas City may get no more opportunities to get to know Bowe, unless he’s passing through town while playing for another team.

This much is certain: Bowe’s season is over. He missed last week’s game against Oakland because of broken ribs and won’t play Sunday against Indianapolis at Arrowhead Stadium or in the season’s final game against the Broncos in Denver.

His time with the Chiefs could be finished as well, though that is far from a sure thing. His contract, the one-year deal worth $9.5 million that he signed this season as the Chiefs’ franchise player, is up when the season is through.

The Chiefs declined to offer Bowe a long-term deal that satisfied him, making it unlikely they would do so next year, either. They could make him their franchise player again, but doing so would come at an even greater cost in 2013.

If he’s done in Kansas City, here’s what the Chiefs will miss the most: his remarkably consistent numbers. Except for 2009, when he missed five games, Bowe’s annual receptions fluctuated between 70 and 86, and his annual yardage fell between 995 and 1,162. He was on pace this year for 73 and 986 before his injury.

He ranks second in career catches among Chiefs wide receivers with 415, one behind Henry Marshall. He is third all-time among receivers at any position. Tight end Tony Gonzalez is the runaway leader.

“Dwayne has put up some great numbers,” said former wide receiver Eddie Kennison, a teammate of Bowe’s for one season with the Chiefs. “If anybody looks at his numbers, they’d have to say he did everything he was asked to do by the Chiefs. He came in and he produced. Nobody can really say anything different about Dwayne Bowe.”

Yet some maddening moments kept Bowe from taking his place as one of football’s elite receivers. He dropped passes at an alarming rate, including what would’ve been a touchdown reception toward the end of a 2008 game in New England that would’ve enabled the Chiefs to pull an upset for the ages. He coughed up an onside kick that cost the Chiefs a victory that same season against San Diego, and there were many others.

But he had some great games, too. He had a pair of 13-catch games in 2010. His juggling touchdown catch last year against Indianapolis is still shown on highlight reels. His streak of seven games with a touchdown reception is a team record.

Add it all up and, despite his flaws, Bowe is by some measures the best wide receiver the Chiefs have ever had.

“I think he’s an outstanding football player and really a tough matchup because of both his size and speed and his ability to go and get the ball,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen said. “He’s a big, physical receiver. He can go and get the ball on those contested throws. Anytime you have those big, physical guys that can really go up and get the ball, they present some real challenges.”

Bowe came into the NFL a ready-made player. He needed no transition period, catching eight passes for 164 yards against San Diego in his fourth professional game. But he refined his game greatly in those first few years with the Chiefs.

“He has grown so much since he’s come into the league,” said Travis Daniels, a college teammate at Louisiana State and for the last four seasons a defensive back for the Chiefs. “He had a lot of raw talent, but he didn’t really understand the game yet.

“We were apart for a few years by the time I got to the Chiefs. His knowledge of the game by then was so much better. He learned how to set up a defender. He didn’t just use his ability anymore. He understands defensive concepts. He knows how to read safeties.”

Bowe clashed with Todd Haley when he joined the Chiefs as head coach in 2009, but Haley’s insistence that Bowe adhere to a strict standard with regard to his work ethic made Bowe a better player. Bowe’s best season came in 2010, when he was named to the Pro Bowl after setting a Chiefs record with 15 receiving touchdowns.

“That was tough for him because he took a lot of criticism,” Cassel said. “But he responded like a true professional. He’s gotten better each and every year. That speaks to how hard he works. He doesn’t take days off.

“He was a guy that I was able to depend on. He was a guy that I was able to trust. I looked to him because he’s a guy I felt would consistently work to get open.”

If the cost was Bowe pointing to the nameplate on the back of his jersey after a touchdown, count Cassel among those who could live with that.

“He’s not one of those guys that’s a challenge for a quarterback to work with,” Cassel said. “He doesn’t have an ego in the locker room. He comes in, shuts his mouth and gets his work done. He’s here every day, 30 minutes before meetings start, and he’s with the receivers coach going through his routes and what he needs to do.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/18/3972141/kc-may-have-seen-the-last-of-the.html#storylink=cpy

O.city
12-18-2012, 11:29 PM
Well, he's def priority 1a and Albert is 1b for the new GM.

wazu
12-18-2012, 11:29 PM
Clearly not part of the "Right 53".

KC Tattoo
12-18-2012, 11:30 PM
I think the Chiefs keep Dwayne Bowe, we just don't have anyone else able to do the things he can do. His blocking for the RB is super great. Had Baldwin shown that he could excell at WR then I think Bowe would have been expendable but he is not expendable now.

tk13
12-18-2012, 11:37 PM
I don't think we'll even have an idea until we find out who the GM is. There will probably be talented players let go so the new GM can bring in his guys... just the way it works.

Buehler445
12-18-2012, 11:40 PM
I'll fucking kill everyone if Bowe walks. Everyone.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-18-2012, 11:44 PM
It would be extremely retarded to let Bowe walk.

Rugby Thompson
12-19-2012, 12:16 AM
Bowe just wouldn't look right in any other uniform.

Ace Gunner
12-19-2012, 12:21 AM
oh how nice -- matt cassel delivering stale news

Ace Gunner
12-19-2012, 12:22 AM
It would be extremely retarded to let Bowe walk.

you mean like letting tony g walk? of course you do.

Ace Gunner
12-19-2012, 12:23 AM
Bowe just wouldn't look right in any other uniform.

you mean like Jared Allen in a Vikes uni? Uh Huh

Sorter
12-19-2012, 12:44 AM
Bowe needs to be catching passes from Geno next year.

L.A. Chieffan
12-19-2012, 12:47 AM
Later dude

Discuss Thrower
12-19-2012, 12:53 AM
"Kansas City doesn't need a 3 year rebuild."

Uh huh. We'll be just fine when Bowe and Albert hit FA, DJ, Tamba and Jamaal lose a step because of age, and a new GM (if there is even a new one) brings in his own guys to set the tone.

The Chiefs will be lucky to come within a cunt's hair of a playoff win before 2015.

Chiefs316
12-19-2012, 12:58 AM
Cassel's language in the past tense is more a sign that he has thrown his last pass to Bowe because he sees his end is here. I would hope they find a way to sign Bowe but my hope well has just about run dry with this regime. Clark can refill the well but letting Bowe walk ain't gonna do it.

jd1020
12-19-2012, 01:00 AM
I'll ****ing kill everyone if Bowe walks. Everyone.

That requires going outside in 40 degree weather.

jd1020
12-19-2012, 01:05 AM
I really don't care if Bowe walks.

He'll probably get franchised again. Pioli, after getting an extension, will draft Luke Joeckel. Crennel will retire. Josh McDaniels will be hired to take his place. Matt Cassel will be promoted back to starter. 2nd round pick will be traded for Mark Sanchez and all will be normal in the land of Chiefs.

Count Alex's Losses
12-19-2012, 01:20 AM
I really don't care if Bowe walks.

He'll probably get franchised again. Pioli, after getting an extension, will draft Luke Joeckel. Crennel will retire. Josh McDaniels will be hired to take his place. Matt Cassel will be promoted back to starter. 2nd round pick will be traded for Mark Sanchez and all will be normal in the land of Chiefs.

You're a shitty troll.

SNR
12-19-2012, 02:00 AM
"Kansas City doesn't need a 3 year rebuild."

Uh huh. We'll be just fine when Bowe and Albert hit FA, DJ, Tamba and Jamaal lose a step because of age, and a new GM (if there is even a new one) brings in his own guys to set the tone.

The Chiefs will be lucky to come within a cunt's hair of a playoff win before 2015.
"Colts are the most talent-void team ever... it's a wonder that Peyton won jack shit with them"

-Everybody in 2011

KCrockaholic
12-19-2012, 02:07 AM
Bowe needs to be catching passes from Geno next year.

Exactly this

Rugby Thompson
12-19-2012, 03:07 AM
I would lose a lot of interest in this team if we didn't draft Geno and keep Bowe. At least fitzgerald had warner, Bowe has had no one and I pray to god he stays loyal and doesn't end up catching passes from romo or tannehill.

InChiefsHell
12-19-2012, 07:10 AM
If Bowe does leave, Chiefs fans will rue the day. Even those who think he "sucks". Seriously, this man will excel with a good QB.

Keep the home grown players, FFS. Especially the ones who are actually GOOD.

Marcellus
12-19-2012, 07:15 AM
Clearly not part of the "Right 53".

I dont want to ever see or hear this phrase as soon as Pioli is fired, it will no longer have any relevance to the Chiefs.

New GM means anything can happen with Bowe.

DaKCMan AP
12-19-2012, 07:16 AM
Priority #1 for the new GM should be to resign either Bowe or Albert. I don't care which.

Re-sign one of them then work to sign the other - but use the tag if necessary.

BoneKrusher
12-19-2012, 07:19 AM
oh how nice -- matt cassel delivering stale news

good thing he can deliver anything at all w/o a fumble or an INT.

Guru
12-19-2012, 07:24 AM
The only thing Cassel will miss is being able to throw passes behind Bowe. Bowe can't wait to be done with that crap.

Scorp
12-19-2012, 07:25 AM
Anyone that actually thinks Bowe is going to resign in KC is bat shit crazy. The only way he is back is if we franchise tag him.

DaKCMan AP
12-19-2012, 07:27 AM
Anyone that actually thinks Bowe is going to resign in KC is bat shit crazy. The only way he is back is if we franchise tag him.

So sign Albert and franchise Bowe. Problem solved.

If we're going to lose Bowe I either force him to stay another year or franchise him and get something in return. It's been speculated/reported that Bowe is the top target for Miami. Franchise him and then turn him for a 1st & 3rd.

Marcellus
12-19-2012, 07:32 AM
Anyone that actually thinks Bowe is going to resign in KC is bat shit crazy. The only way he is back is if we franchise tag him.

Anyone who thinks they KNOW what is going to happen with a new GM, coach, and QB situation is even battier shitiier crazier.

FA doesn't start until what March? Bowe has already said he would like to to stay in KC. We get a new GM and suddenly there is that new car smell all over the franchise Anything is possible.

htismaqe
12-19-2012, 07:33 AM
"Kansas City doesn't need a 3 year rebuild."

Uh huh. We'll be just fine when Bowe and Albert hit FA, DJ, Tamba and Jamaal lose a step because of age, and a new GM (if there is even a new one) brings in his own guys to set the tone.

The Chiefs will be lucky to come within a ****'s hair of a playoff win before 2015.

Dude, go get some Lexapro. You've turned into a giant vagina.

htismaqe
12-19-2012, 07:33 AM
Anyone that actually thinks Bowe is going to resign in KC is bat shit crazy. The only way he is back is if we franchise tag him.

I suppose anybody that thinks Pioli is getting fired is crazy too?

A new GM changes the game. Dramatically.

DaKCMan AP
12-19-2012, 07:35 AM
Dude, go get some Lexapro. You've turned into a giant vagina.

/signed Reggie Wayne, Robert Mathis, and Dwight Freeney.

Rausch
12-19-2012, 07:44 AM
A new GM changes the game. Dramatically.

This.

This is what I'm hoping for...

Dayze
12-19-2012, 08:12 AM
if we end up losing bowe and carr in the same year, I'm going to be irate. the man has earned his money. IMO he's a top 5 WR and could only go up with a real fucking QB and OC.

We've band-aided the WR for YEARs and we finally draft and dvelop one that pans out 10-fold, and we're dumb enough to possibly lose him.

htismaqe
12-19-2012, 08:18 AM
if we end up losing bowe and carr in the same year, I'm going to be irate. the man has earned his money. IMO he's a top 5 WR and could only go up with a real ****ing QB and OC.

We've band-aided the WR for YEARs and we finally draft and dvelop one that pans out 10-fold, and we're dumb enough to possibly lose him.

He's no Lake Dawson.

And Sylvester Morris he ain't.

CoMoChief
12-19-2012, 08:26 AM
Bowe's gonna walk.

He has to be tired of playing w/ shit QB's. I know I would be.

Dave Lane
12-19-2012, 08:27 AM
Clearly not part of the "Right 53".

Black Boob would cut him this minute.

MahiMike
12-19-2012, 08:29 AM
I think the Chiefs keep Dwayne Bowe, we just don't have anyone else able to do the things he can do. His blocking for the RB is super great. Had Baldwin shown that he could excell at WR then I think Bowe would have been expendable but he is not expendable now.

Why not? So we can win 3 games next year?

KC Tattoo
12-19-2012, 08:32 AM
Why not? So we can win 3 games next year?

Why wouldn't you want Dwayne Bowe with Geno Smith??????????? We can win more than three games and help out Geno Smith develop with a stud WR.

KC_Lee
12-19-2012, 08:36 AM
He's no Lake Dawson.

And Sylvester Morris he ain't.

Or Snoop Minnis...or J.J. Birden...

Shag
12-19-2012, 08:43 AM
Hopefully, a new GM and the promise of a new QB will be enough to keep Bowe in KC. Going to be monumentally pissed if he leaves...

beach tribe
12-19-2012, 08:49 AM
"Colts are the most talent-void team ever... it's a wonder that Peyton won jack shit with them"

-Everybody in 2011

I'm still not backing down from the point of view that this actually is a talented team.
Do we have huge holes? Yes.
Do we have talent? Yes.
With the right coach and QB, (EDIT: and a few holes filled) this could be a PO team, and there's nothing anyone can say that will change my mind about that.

BigMeatballDave
12-19-2012, 08:49 AM
you mean like letting tony g walk? of course you do.

TG was 32 at the time.

Bowe is 28.

Huge difference.

mcaj22
12-19-2012, 08:50 AM
"Colts are the most talent-void team ever... it's a wonder that Peyton won jack shit with them"

-Everybody in 2011

that's correct

seeing as how the 3/4s of the Colts roster was turned over between 2011 and 2012.

I know you were trying to joke, but it is absolutely a true formula that Chiefs should also be doing

beach tribe
12-19-2012, 08:51 AM
Why not? So we can win 3 games next year?

Getting rid of talented players is never a good idea. It's just another hole to fill.

mcaj22
12-19-2012, 08:52 AM
we wont have to get rid of the 5 or 6 talented players on the team,

what we will have to get rid of is all the overrated non-productive Pioli bust draft picks and replace them real evaluated talent

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-19-2012, 08:53 AM
Letting go of Bowe just because he isn't "your guy" would be fucking retarded.

mcaj22
12-19-2012, 08:55 AM
Letting go of Bowe just because he isn't "your guy" would be ****ing retarded.

just like letting go of Carr

it's the same scenario this GM has put this team in because of his stupid ego and the fact that he wants to put his lesser talented players in the spotlight over a prior regimes draft picks who are clearly 100 times better

New England got away with this because they had Tom Brady to cover their backs everytime they let someone good walk for nothing, but you know, we dont and never will have that luxory

beach tribe
12-19-2012, 08:56 AM
just like letting go of Carr

it's the same scenario this GM has put this team in because of his stupid ego and the fact that he wants to put his lesser talented players in the spotlight over a prior regimes draft picks who are clearly 100 times better

Pioli won't be there though.

htismaqe
12-19-2012, 08:56 AM
just like letting go of Carr

it's the same scenario this GM has put this team in because of his stupid ego and the fact that he wants to put his lesser talented players in the spotlight over a prior regimes draft picks who are clearly 100 times better

So you're assuming that the next GM is going to be the same A #1 fuckstick that Pioli is?

mcaj22
12-19-2012, 08:57 AM
So you're assuming that the next GM is going to be the same A #1 ****stick that Pioli is?

no I said the next GM is going to come in and cut all the pile of shit players Pioli protects and has forced to play and us fans watch a horrible product of talent.

and I hope guys like Breaston are vindicated.

BoneKrusher
12-19-2012, 08:58 AM
Bowe proved last week he belongs in KC, look at the passing yardage piled up in his absence. (26 yards per quarter)

end of story.

htismaqe
12-19-2012, 08:59 AM
no I said the next GM is going to come in and cut all the pile of shit players Pioli protects and has forced to play and us fans watch a horrible product of talent.

and I hope guys like Breaston are vindicated.

I guess I don't understand then.

Bowe isn't a shit player that Pioli protects...

rabblerouser
12-19-2012, 09:01 AM
Bowe proved last week he belongs in KC, look at the passing yardage piled up in his absence. (26 yards per quarter)

end of story.

And if I'm Bowe's agent, that is my starting and ending point :

Here are your numbers with Bowe - xxxxxxxx

And your numbers without him - xx

BoneKrusher
12-19-2012, 09:02 AM
And if I'm Bowe's agent, that is my starting and ending point :

Here are your numbers with Bowe - xxxxxxxx

And your numbers without him - xx

absolutely.

Rausch
12-19-2012, 09:03 AM
TG was 32 at the time.

Bowe is 28.

Huge difference.

Yeah.

Bowe is the ONLY playmaker in the passing game now...

mcaj22
12-19-2012, 09:04 AM
I guess I don't understand then.

Bowe isn't a shit player that Pioli protects...

that's the problem, guys like Bowe on the cusp of walking for nothing because Pioli DOES protect his own picks.

I know a new GM can come in and save this scenario but the 4 years prior that was not the case.

DC.chief
12-19-2012, 09:17 AM
I'll punch a baby seal in the face if we don't bring bowe back. He's the only receiver we have thats worth a shit. Even with all his drops.

We need to tag Bowe again, draft a wr (austin?) with our 2nd round pick and then hopefully either baldwin steps up or we add solid FA wr. That would be a pretty good scenario for our new franchise QB.

htismaqe
12-19-2012, 09:18 AM
that's the problem, guys like Bowe on the cusp of walking for nothing because Pioli DOES protect his own picks.

I know a new GM can come in and save this scenario but the 4 years prior that was not the case.

Well, a new GM will be here in about 3 weeks and the past 4 years are all but irrelevant now.

So still not sure what your point is. :D

rabblerouser
12-19-2012, 09:26 AM
Imagine a new GM, who walks in, signs Alex Smith, drafts Geno, and trades for Matt Flynn - THOSE are the three QBs going into camp.

He signs Bowe long-term, signs Colquitt long-term, and franchises Albert.

And brings in Greg Jennings.

The rest of the draft gets used on O-Line, DB, and LBs...

I mean, they DO have the cap space for all of that, and more.

Ahhh, a guy can dream, can't he???

DaKCMan AP
12-19-2012, 09:31 AM
Imagine a new GM, who walks in, signs Alex Smith, drafts Geno, and trades for Matt Flynn - THOSE are the three QBs going into camp.

He signs Bowe long-term, signs Colquitt long-term, and franchises Albert.

And brings in Greg Jennings.

The rest of the draft gets used on O-Line, DB, and LBs...

I mean, they DO have the cap space for all of that, and more.

Ahhh, a guy can dream, can't he???


Why the hell would we trade for Matt Flynn or sign Greg Jennings?

mcaj22
12-19-2012, 09:40 AM
Well, a new GM will be here in about 3 weeks and the past 4 years are all but irrelevant now.

So still not sure what your point is. :D

i forget what the OP was that started it.

pretty much the same convo going on in 5 different threads about how people think there is more talent on this team outside of 6 players or that we dont need guys like Bowe or a roster overhaul (to go with a rookie QB, of course)

htismaqe
12-19-2012, 09:45 AM
i forget what the OP was that started it.

pretty much the same convo going on in 5 different threads about how people think there is more talent on this team outside of 6 players or that we dont need guys like Bowe or a roster overhaul (to go with a rookie QB, of course)

Well, I'm lost. :drool:

:thumb:

jd1020
12-19-2012, 09:46 AM
You're a shitty troll.

Not trolling.

I really don't care if Bowe is back or not. He's here now and the Chiefs are 2-12. The Chiefs have 1 winning season since drafting Bowe, capped off with an embarrassing playoff loss.

Bowe doesn't make or break the team.

The shit about Pioli being extended was just me preparing myself for disappointment backed up by 43 years of fail.

BigMeatballDave
12-19-2012, 09:55 AM
Not trolling.

I really don't care if Bowe is back or not. He's here now and the Chiefs are 2-12. The Chiefs have 1 winning season since drafting Bowe, capped off with an embarrassing playoff loss.

Bowe doesn't make or break the team.

:facepalm:

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-19-2012, 09:56 AM
JFC never go full Blackbob

Count Alex's Losses
12-19-2012, 09:57 AM
Not trolling.

I really don't care if Bowe is back or not. He's here now and the Chiefs are 2-12. The Chiefs have 1 winning season since drafting Bowe, capped off with an embarrassing playoff loss.

Bowe doesn't make or break the team.

The shit about Pioli being extended was just me preparing myself for disappointment backed up by 43 years of fail.

Bla bla bla bla.

Bowe only helps this team.

You can fuck off.

jd1020
12-19-2012, 09:58 AM
Bla bla bla bla.

Bowe only helps this team.

You can **** off.

Would you miss Bowe if this team had a franchise QB coupled with a competent OC that understands when it's 3rd and 3 you have to call plays where routes at least run 3 yards and not 2 1/2, every. single. ****ing. time?

Shag
12-19-2012, 09:59 AM
Not trolling.

I really don't care if Bowe is back or not. He's here now and the Chiefs are 2-12. The Chiefs have 1 winning season since drafting Bowe, capped off with an embarrassing playoff loss.

Bowe doesn't make or break the team.

The shit about Pioli being extended was just me preparing myself for disappointment backed up by 43 years of fail.

Why stop there? Let's really cut some dead weight and axe Charles, Albert, DJ, and Hali. Those guys don't know how to win...

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-19-2012, 09:59 AM
How bout we flush that turd Pioli, keep Bowe, AND hire an awesome HC, whilst drafting a badass QB like Geno!!!

jd1020
12-19-2012, 10:00 AM
How bout we keep Bowe AND hire an awesome HC, whilst drafting a badass QB like Geno!!!

I don't care what happens if this team gets a franchise QB and a revamped, competent, staff.

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-19-2012, 10:02 AM
We are still trying to compete with all the teams that have franchise QB's and competent staffs. Getting a QB puts us on the map. We need all these talented guys that have suffered through the dark ages.

BoneKrusher
12-19-2012, 10:02 AM
How bout we flush that turd Pioli, keep Bowe, AND hire an awesome HC, whilst drafting a badass QB like Geno!!!

This X 1000

Count Alex's Losses
12-19-2012, 10:20 AM
Would you miss Bowe if this team had a franchise QB coupled with a competent OC that understands when it's 3rd and 3 you have to call plays where routes at least run 3 yards and not 2 1/2, every. single. ****ing. time?

Dude, our WR talent is utter shit....

Just shut up.

jd1020
12-19-2012, 10:21 AM
Dude, our WR talent is utter shit....

Just shut up.

Is that because of the WRs or the QB and OC?

McCluster is the #1 target and your boy Breaston is riding the bench.

Rausch
12-19-2012, 10:23 AM
Is that because of the WRs or the QB and OC?

We have 2 legit players in Breaston and Bowe.

That's it.

It goes straight PS after that...

jd1020
12-19-2012, 10:28 AM
We have 2 legit players in Breaston and Bowe.

That's it.

It goes straight PS after that...

That's your opinion.

My opinion is that its unfair to evaluate guys like Baldwin because of the way this offense is run and who the QB is.

On teams with a franchise QB its a revolving door of quality WRs. They let one go that you think "that's going to kill their offense" and then John Doe comes in and lights the world on fire.

Give me a franchise QB and a competent staff and I would not give 2 shits if Bowe is here or not.

Count Alex's Losses
12-19-2012, 10:28 AM
Is that because of the WRs or the QB and OC?

McCluster is the #1 target and your boy Breaston is riding the bench.

If Breaston is our #1 WR next year, IT'S BAD.

We need Bowe.

Stop this insanity.

bobbything
12-19-2012, 10:28 AM
I fear a nightmare scenario here in KC; Pioli is granted another year, we let Bowe and Albert walk, take Te'o with our pick, sign a brokedick Wes Welker, trade for Alex Smith, and suck sh*t for the next 3 years.

Wendler, I know you're saying Pioli is finished. I'm not convinced. I'd say there's still about a 10%-15% chance he's back. I have nothing to go on but my gut feeling. I cannot trust this organization.

Count Alex's Losses
12-19-2012, 10:35 AM
Wendler, I know you're saying Pioli is finished. I'm not convinced.

http://i.imgur.com/xQjnV.gif

TEX
12-19-2012, 10:37 AM
I fear a nightmare scenario here in KC; Pioli is granted another year, we let Bowe and Albert walk, take Te'o with our pick, sign a brokedick Wes Welker, trade for Alex Smith, and suck sh*t for the next 3 years.

Wendler, I know you're saying Pioli is finished. I'm not convinced. I'd say there's still about a 10%-15% chance he's back. I have nothing to go on but my gut feeling. I cannot trust this organization.

Funny thing is that would not be any worse than this past year. Just shows how FUCKED UP things are.

Rausch
12-19-2012, 10:38 AM
That's your opinion.

My opinion is -

$#it.

It's $3it.

Fucking stupid...

DaKCMan AP
12-19-2012, 10:39 AM
People judging our WR corps with the QB performance over the past 2 season are morons (like Clay).

Demaryius Thomas two seasons without Manning:
54 receptions (109 targets) 834yds 6TDs

Demaryius Thomas in 14 games with Manning:
78 receptions (119 targets) 1210yds 8TDs

Count Alex's Losses
12-19-2012, 10:44 AM
Demaryius Thomas showed flashes of potential even before Manning. He had over TWO HUNDRED YARDS in a playoff game last year.

The same goes for Eric Decker.

Baldwin has shown almost NOTHING. On a consistent basis.

I've beaten this horse to death already, but Bowe and Breaston were fine last year with Cassel. Chambers was fine in 2010 with Cassel.

Real talent shines through. The garbage players get lost in the pile of suck.

DaKCMan AP
12-19-2012, 10:54 AM
Real talent shines through. The garbage players get lost in the pile of suck.

Like Stevie Johnson his first 2 years?
Like Brandon Marshall his first season?
Like Vincent Jackson his first 3 years?
Like Roddy White his first 2 years?
Like Steve Smith his first season?

BigMeatballDave
12-19-2012, 11:14 AM
Like Stevie Johnson his first 2 years?
Like Brandon Marshall his first season?
Like Vincent Jackson his first 3 years?
Like Roddy White his first 2 years?
Like Steve Smith his first season?

Ouch

Rausch
12-19-2012, 11:16 AM
Like Stevie Johnson his first 2 years?
Like Brandon Marshall his first season?
Like Vincent Jackson his first 3 years?
Like Roddy White his first 2 years?
Like Steve Smith his first season?

Guess what they all had that we don't...

Dayze
12-19-2012, 11:19 AM
Guess what they all had that we don't...

Pie?

mcaj22
12-19-2012, 11:34 AM
the fact that you are even trying to relate and compare Baldwin to that list of WRs is pathetic you idiot homer


"STOP PROTECTING SHITTY PLAYERS" needs to be the motto around here

DaKCMan AP
12-19-2012, 11:38 AM
the fact that you are even trying to relate and compare Baldwin to that list of WRs is pathetic you idiot homer


"STOP PROTECTING SHITTY PLAYERS" needs to be the motto around here

ROFL

Baldwin = garbage player

Breaston = just a guy needing to be vidicated

Double-standard much you hypocritical douche?

STFU

Rausch
12-19-2012, 11:40 AM
Pie?

Fuck...you're right...

DaKCMan AP
12-19-2012, 11:41 AM
Joe Horn was a pile of trash that people shouldn't have protected. /mcaj22

Easy 6
12-19-2012, 01:05 PM
I would be flat out shocked if the new regime doesnt make a very strong effort to keep him, he's one of those players who can really ease the transition with consistent production at a critical spot.

They'd be FOOLS not to keep him.

jd1020
12-19-2012, 01:06 PM
They'd be FOOLS not to keep him.

You are talking about the Chiefs, dude.

They wouldn't be fools. They are fools.

Easy 6
12-19-2012, 01:09 PM
You are talking about the Chiefs, dude.

They wouldn't be fools. They are fools.

With any luck, Clark wont get fooled again.

whoman69
12-19-2012, 01:15 PM
It seems incredible that the best receive we have had here since Otis Taylor is going to be dumped when his alternative caught 18 passes this year.

DaKCMan AP
12-19-2012, 01:25 PM
Not trolling.

I really don't care if Johnson is back or not. He's here now and the Lions are 4-10. The Lions have 1 winning season since drafting Johnson, capped off with a playoff loss.

Calvin Johnson doesn't make or break the team.



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