New Russian nuclear submarine enters service

[notorious]

New Russian nuclear submarine enters service

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-nuclear-submarine-enters-160331789.html

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MOSCOW (AP) — The Russian navy on Thursday hoisted its flag on a new nuclear powered submarine intended to form a key part of the country's future nuclear deterrent. It is part of an ambitious weapons modernization effort that comes as the military is preparing for a naval exercise off Syria's shores.

Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said the war games in the Mediterranean will be the biggest such exercise since Soviet times and involve ships from all four Russian fleets. The maneuvers have been seen as a demonstration of Russian naval power and a show of support for an old ally, whom Moscow has shielded from international sanctions.

Shoigu made the statement after commissioning the new Yury Dolgoruky nuclear submarine, which carries 16 Bulava intercontinental ballistic missiles. It is the first of a new series of Borei-class submarines that will replace older Soviet-built ships. Another submarine of the same type is currently undergoing sea trials and two others are now under construction.

President Vladimir Putin congratulated the Yuri Dolgoruky's crew during a conference call Thursday, hailing the ship as a "powerful weapon that will guarantee our security."

"Submarines of that class will become an important element of sea-based strategic forces, a guarantor of global balance and security of Russia and its allies," Putin said.

Commissioning of the new submarines is part of an ambitious arms modernization program that envisages spending over 20 trillion rubles ($657 billion) on new weapons through 2020.

Putin said Thursday that 4 trillion rubles ($132 billion) of that money will be spent on commissioning the new submarines and other navy ships. "Modernization of the navy is one of the most important priorities in our work to strengthen the armed forces," he said.

Putin said the navy will commission the total of eight Borei-class ICBM nuclear submarines and eight nuclear submarines of a different Yasen class intended to hunt for enemy ships.

The construction of the Yuri Dolgoruky, named after a medieval Russian prince who founded Moscow, began in 1995 but was slowed down by a post-Soviet economic meltdown and it wasn't until 2009 when it finally entered sea trials. The submarine's commissioning was delayed further by problems with the new Bulava intercontinental ballistic missile intended to arm it.

The Bulava experienced a string of failures during tests that dragged on for years, raising doubts about the future of the most expensive military project in Russia's post-Soviet history. Recent tests, however, have been successful, allowing the navy to finally commission the submarine.

Shoigu, who attended the commissioning of the new submarine at a shipyard in Severodvinsk, said that the Bulava is fully combat ready.

Facing questions about Bulava, Putin's chief of staff Sergei Ivanov also insisted that "the navy has no reason to doubt its reliability."

A hawkish Russian Cabinet member marked the ceremony with a tongue-in-cheek comment mimicking the Cold War-era diatribes of Soviet leaders. "You bourgeoisie tremble! You are screwed!" Dmitry Rogozin, deputy prime minister in charge of military industries, wrote on Twitter.

Rogozin, a nationalist politician in the past, has been known for his bellicose and sometimes crude statements.

[notorious]

I love Naval Warships.

This is big news considering the Russians had the most largest submarine force in the world until the Soviet Union crumbled.

[El Jefe]

To the DC in............

[ncCHIEFfan]

Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!:mad:

[notorious]

To the DC in............

Nah, people will be civil and talk about the cool aspects of naval ships.


It will end up in the pictures forum in the worst case.

[notorious]

Nah, people will be civil and talk about the cool aspects of naval ships.


It will end up in the pictures forum in the worst case.

Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!:mad:



God Damnit.

[crazycoffey]

red october

[ncCHIEFfan]

Nah, people will be civil and talk about the cool aspects of naval ships.


It will end up in the pictures forum in the worst case.

Ok...my bad...sorry won't happen again

[rockymtnchief]

A nice shot of the inside.
http://libcom.org/files/imagecache/article/images/library/alec_baldwin1[1].jpg

[the Talking Can]

Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!:mad:

frankly, on behalf of the US, we wish bigoted pussies like you would leave

[Marco Polo]

Thanks for sharing.

[penguinz]

Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!:mad:Your and idiot.

[notorious]

red october

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http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4602191447133029&pid=15.1

Big boat.

[ncCHIEFfan]

frankly, on behalf of the US, we wish bigoted pussies like you would leave

??? Please explain how you came to this conclusion!

[blaise]

Let's not tard the place up now.

[Reerun_KC]

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5065446581535598&pid=15.1
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Big boat.

What ever happened to that boat?

[notorious]

The aft part of the Russian sub looks a lot like an Ohio-Class sub.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4803307581014450&pid=15.1

[Steron]

The construction of the Yuri Dolgoruky, named after a medieval Russian prince who founded Moscow, began in 1995 but was slowed down by a post-Soviet economic meltdown and it wasn't until 2009 when it finally entered sea trials.

And it only took them 14 years to build it.

[notorious]

What ever happened to that boat?

They still have them. Most are mothballed, though.

I think they had 6 Typhoon class subs during the end of the Cold War.

[Reerun_KC]

They still have them. Most are mothballed, though.

I think they had 6 Typhoon class subs during the end of the Cold War.

http://content.screencast.com/users/AllshoreBryan/folders/Jing/media/837efe37-8f54-445a-8278-71454c5093f9/2013-01-11_0812.png

[CoMoChief]

That's a badass sub

[cyborgtable]

On a side note Russia has tripled their space budget also, where are they getting their money? Cool sub nonetheless. I'm waiting for us to get our metamaterial technology high enough to make wake-less subs as well as sound proof

[ct]

Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!:mad:

ya know what else we have? idiots like you still have the right to spew your ignorance at will

[notorious]

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"In service/no missles"


WTF? LMAO

[ncCHIEFfan]

ya know what else we have? idiots like you still have the right to spew your ignorance at will

so sorry to offend any of my tender, new age american brothers.

I fought 8 long years for the rights of Old Glory and I didn't spew anything but typed a few simple facts.

Again, I do apologies!

[El Jefe]

God Damnit.

LMAO. This made me laugh, thumbs up!

[El Jefe]

ya know what else we have? idiots like you still have the right to spew your ignorance at will

Funny how it goes both ways isn't it?

[notorious]

LMAO. This made me laugh, thumbs up!

LMAO


Boy did you nail it. ;)

[El Jefe]

LMAO


Boy did you nail it. ;)

I thought your response was more comical than anything else. I was just pulling your chain :p

[Radar Chief]

Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!:mad:

“Continue to build”? My understanding of the Russian military is that it is a sad state of disrepair. The Russian bear has mange.
China is a different animal though.

[Stanley Nickels]

Again, I do apologies!

Not very well.

[ct]

so sorry to offend any of my tender, new age american brothers.

I fought 8 long years for the rights of Old Glory and I didn't spew anything but typed a few simple facts.

Again, I do apologies!

8 years of service earns my respect. turning around and being a a-hole flushes it right down the toilet. that's america, exactly what you fought for, am I right?

[notorious]

Badass Akula class sub:

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5033947315047321&pid=15.1

The 45 kt speedster Alfa Class sub:

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4674162224531176&pid=15.1

[Radar Chief]

Badass Akula class sub:

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5033947315047321&pid=15.1

The 45 kt speedster Alfa Class sub:

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4674162224531176&pid=15.1

They do have some sleek looking subs, makes me wonder how they are so noisy but I know little about the Navy.

[ncCHIEFfan]

I do appreciate the respect and I am not one to take respect lightly, let alone flush it down the toilet as though it doesn't matter!

What I fought for? I left the USMC as an E-6 after giving 8 years of my life because I realized ( through discernment ) what I believed was worth giving my life for and what my children were having to sacrifice for, doesn't exist in this country any longer.

I usually stay away from DC type topics because of my passion for this once Great Nation. This morning I slipped. Should had stayed away from commenting in this thread.

Again Sorry for offending you guys! Go Chiefs!

[notorious]

They do have some sleek looking subs, makes me wonder how they are so noisy but I know little about the Navy.

They probably maxed out everything in the sub just like they did with everything else, fine sound details be damned.

The energy it takes to move a big boat at 45 kts is astounding. The reactor had to be glowing.

[ChiefGator]

No worries...

It is kind of funny though that Russia is building up their Navy with more nuclear submarines. I think that time is long gone.. are they really going to start blowing off nukes at everyone? Bunch of crazy bastards.

Of course, I wish it was more about disarming the nukes, but then the nuclear material would probably just be sold to Iran anyway.

[notorious]

No worries...

It is kind of funny though that Russia is building up their Navy with more nuclear submarines. I think that time is long gone.. are they really going to start blowing off nukes at everyone? Bunch of crazy bastards.
.

When it comes to defense/deterance:

One nuclear submarine = Entire conventional force



I was surprised to see how much money they were putting into their subs.

[Bewbies]

I read this and my first thought sounded like something out of a Clancey book. Loved reading his submarine chase/battle/hunt scenes...

[Amnorix]

Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!:mad:


I fought 8 long years for the rights of Old Glory and I didn't spew anything but typed a few simple facts.

Again, I do apologies!


You're wrong. Not just my opinion, just plain, obvious fact.

WE spend over 40% of all dollars spent in the world on the military. Let me say that again: for every 60 cents spent by everybody else in teh world combined, we spend about 40 cents.

http://cdn1.globalissues.org/i/military/12/country-distribution-2011.png

We spend more on the military now, in inflation adjusted dollars, than we did during the Cold War.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/InflationAdjustedDefenseSpending.PNG/800px-InflationAdjustedDefenseSpending.PNG


We also spend more than twice as much on the military as China, and about TEN times more than Russia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/spending.htm



I'll stop there and stop arguing political stuff in this thread as I don't want to be the guy who gets it bounced to DC, but I couldn't let that one pass. The consistent unbelievable ignorance about US military spending is just incredibly annoying.

[ncCHIEFfan]

You're wrong. Not just my opinion, just plain, obvious fact.

WE spend over 40% of all dollars spent in the world on the military. Let me say that again: for every 60 cents spent by everybody else in teh world combined, we spend about 40 cents.

http://cdn1.globalissues.org/i/military/12/country-distribution-2011.png

We spend more on the military now, in inflation adjusted dollars, than we did during the Cold War.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/InflationAdjustedDefenseSpending.PNG/800px-InflationAdjustedDefenseSpending.PNG


We also spend more than twice as much on the military as China, and about TEN times more than Russia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/spending.htm



I'll stop there and stop arguing political stuff in this thread as I don't want to be the guy who gets it bounced to DC, but I couldn't let that one pass. The consistent unbelievable ignorance about US military spending is just incredibly annoying.

Ok..this is my last comment in this forum! With all dues respect sir, I never mentioned spending but since you did I will reply. One of the biggest problems with this Nation is thinking more spending means better. We have and continue to over spend leaving us weak and very vulnerable. I could give many many examples and facts but I will do everyone here the favor and not.

[crossbow]

I do appreciate the respect and I am not one to take respect lightly, let alone flush it down the toilet as though it doesn't matter!

What I fought for? I left the USMC as an E-6 after giving 8 years of my life because I realized ( through discernment ) what I believed was worth giving my life for and what my children were having to sacrifice for, doesn't exist in this country any longer.

I usually stay away from DC type topics because of my passion for this once Great Nation. This morning I slipped. Should had stayed away from commenting in this thread.

Again Sorry for offending you guys! Go Chiefs!

People don't debate the ideas now, they attack the person.

[ottawa_chiefs_fan]

On a side note Russia has tripled their space budget also, where are they getting their money?

You obviously haven't been to a strip club lately.

[Dave Lane]

Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!:mad:

Dumbass.

Yes we spend more on our military than the entire world combined. We are so weak...

[notorious]

The "Oscar" class sub was designed for one thing: to destroy an Aircraft Carrier.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4719439770812542&pid=15.1
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4910591559402988&pid=15.1

This fat bastard carries 72 large anti-ship missles.

[LiveSteam]

Dumbass.

Yes we spend more on our military than the entire world combined. We are so weak...

LMAO

[Rausch]

Dumbass.

Yes we spend more on our military than the entire world combined. We are so weak...

You are aware that will change soon?...

[gblowfish]

What does Jered at Subway think of this? He's an expert on subs.

[Molitoth]

Or every country could work together in building a resource based economy, instead of figuring out new ways to kill ourselves off.

[DJ's left nut]

The Kirov Class battlecruisers are probably fairly obsolete at this point (and in fact I think there's only 1 left), but man those things are imposing.

[Easy 6]

That things friggin massive.

But i'm not too worried, our military is never going to let itself feel outgunned, no matter what we hear about budget cuts theres an entirely different budget thats not on the books.

[Demonpenz]

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[Demonpenz]

Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!:mad:

The sad part is the younger generation just stands back and does nothing. Makes you wonder why we even fought so hard to begin with.

[demonhero]

Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!:mad:


we are fine.. we still have 12,345,678,945,6123 puddles, and 1 bulldog.

[bevischief]

The US military never lets the public know anything till the replacement is already on-line.

[ChiTown]

A nice shot of the inside.
http://libcom.org/files/imagecache/article/images/library/alec_baldwin1[1].jpg

Thanks, Asshole! Now, I'm completely jonesing to watch The Hunt for Red October..:cuss:

[Dave Lane]

You are aware that will change soon?...

Oh noes we will spend like 20% less than the entire rest of the world. Now I'm a skeered...

[Radar Chief]

Thanks, Asshole! Now, I'm completely jonesing to watch The Hunt for Red October..:cuss:

Could be worse, you could be jonesing to watch To Wong Fu.

[ChiTown]

The sad part is the younger generation just stands back and does nothing. Makes you wonder why we even fought so hard to begin with.

ROFL

You are a wicked man, penz.

[Strongside]

Call of Duty video games are going to come true. Some radical militant group will reform the Soviet Union, overthrow the Russian govt and assume power of the Nukes. They will then hit the Eastern US with an E.M.P. and it's Red Dawn for real.

Ain't takin' muh guns, bitches.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!:mad:

Jobs! They took 'em!!!!

[Cephalic Trauma]

we are fine.. we still have 12,345,678,945,6123 puddles, and 1 bulldog.

That must have been one hell of a storm.

[demonhero]

Come on... what do you expect when our IT support is outsourced.

[Discuss Thrower]

Oh noes we will spend like 20% less than the entire rest of the world. Now I'm a skeered...

The point is the remaining will be spent unwisely: lining the pockets of MI lobbyists and funneling pork to keep fat cat Congressmen in power.

[jallmon]

I love Naval Warships.

This is big news considering the Russians had the most largest submarine force in the world until the Soviet Union crumbled.

As a submariner on a fast attack boat (USS Guardfish, SSN-612), during the Cold War, I want to agree that the Soviets did out number our boats. However, they were very noisy. The Soviet strategy was to flood the ocean with low-tech boats that traveled in "wolf packs." Our strategy was to have much quieter lone wolves that would, and did, track them down.

Now, the Russians may be getting quieter boats, but we have other technology to find them, such as satellites and Gawd knows what.

My concern is that I was hoping for a dynamic DC and OC for the Chiefs. Do we have that?

[Shaid]

Russia and China are continuing to build their Military bigger and better while the U.S. continues to weak'n our entire country not just the military. What a bright future we have

But look on the bright side....we still have our "rights"...to kill unwanted babies and we will have legal pillowbiter marriages!:mad:

ROFL

[Tombstone RJ]

As a submariner on a fast attack boat (USS Guardfish, SSN-612), during the Cold War, I want to agree that the Soviets did out number our boats. However, they were very noisy. The Soviet strategy was to flood the ocean with low-tech boats that traveled in "wolf packs." Our strategy was to have much quieter lone wolves that would, and did, track them down.

Now, the Russians may be getting quieter boats, but we have other technology to find them, such as satellites and Gawd knows what.

My concern is that I was hoping for a dynamic DC and OC for the Chiefs. Do we have that?

nope, kc is still lagging behind the Broncos in firepower, class and overall awesomeness. Just thought I'd make the analogy brotha.

[Tombstone RJ]

China has been waging economic war on the US for the better part of 30 years. All war is about economics. Until the friggen morons in DC realize this, prepare your anus.