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the Talking Can
01-20-2013, 09:53 AM
this is really just a way of asking which players you like in the draft, beyond the obvious one's the Chiefs might be looking at...

I mostly watch sec and big 12, so there are a ton of players I know nothing about, particularly in later rounds...

but, to the premise...players the Chiefs are unlikely to draft due to round or need....so

I love ogletree from UGA (ILB)...he was just coming into his own at the end of the year, and will have a longer more productive career than Jones (and clowns te'o)

he isn't a need like QB,CB,S and is being mocked mid-first (but if he slipped, I'd take him)

KCFaninSEA
01-20-2013, 10:00 AM
D'Andre Hopkins WR. Clemson. He may make it to the top of round 2 so they may actually get this guy. WR is, IMO, the 2nd most needed position on team, even if Bowe is resigned.

ArrowheadMagic
01-20-2013, 10:09 AM
D'Andre Hopkins WR. Clemson. He may make it to the top of round 2 so they may actually get this guy. WR is, IMO, the 2nd most needed position on team, even if Bowe is resigned.

This. S Matt Elam.. ILB Niko Johnson.. One of the top 2 TE's ... RB Stephan Taylor.

Pestilence
01-20-2013, 10:13 AM
Braxton Cave, C, ND

alanm
01-20-2013, 10:44 AM
Rex Burkhead, RB, Nebraska

Big Chief Homer
01-20-2013, 11:15 AM
Oregon State Cb Jordan Poyer projected last I checked early 2nd round

Chocolate Hog
01-20-2013, 11:24 AM
Montee Ball

Buehler445
01-20-2013, 11:39 AM
Rex Burkhead, RB, Nebraska

Burkhead is a pretty decent little back. I like the way he runs, but don't know if he's big enough. Where is he projected?

alanm
01-20-2013, 01:11 PM
Burkhead is a pretty decent little back. I like the way he runs, but don't know if he's big enough. Where is he projected?He's big enough. He fluctuates between 210 and 220. If he hadn't missed most all the season with a sprained MCL he would of probably had a great senior year. I've heard he's projected in the 3 or 4th rnd. I've a feeling he's one of those guys that are destined to end up playing for the Patriots. I think Pelini has a pipeline set up with Bellichek.

DaneMcCloud
01-20-2013, 03:43 PM
D'Andre Hopkins WR. Clemson. He may make it to the top of round 2 so they may actually get this guy. WR is, IMO, the 2nd most needed position on team, even if Bowe is resigned.

Uh, starting cornerback opposite Flowers? Starting Safety opposite Berry? Starting ILB next to Johnson? Backup QB?

Wide receiver is about 8th on the list.

Ceej
01-20-2013, 04:09 PM
I think the appropriate answer is: all of the good ones.

Sfeihc
01-20-2013, 04:38 PM
Dion Sims, TE, MSU

KCFaninSEA
01-20-2013, 05:55 PM
Uh, starting cornerback opposite Flowers? Starting Safety opposite Berry? Starting ILB next to Johnson? Backup QB?

Wide receiver is about 8th on the list.

Never said the ones you mentioned weren't needed. All are, but the receivers on this team are awful. Baldwin is a heck of a lot worse at his position than Lewis is. Baldwin just disappears. Bowe has his moments and getting somebody else to take the double teams off of him will open things up for whoever is calling signals. Last in passing this year. Most of that is the QB play, no question, but the crappy receivers we have need to share some blame there. Now, if Bowe leaves, that compounds the issue immensely. Try not to worry about a backup QB until one is found that can produce as a starter. There is no guarantee that any QB acquired, whether it be in the draft, FA or a trade will be productive. Hope so but......

Jewish Rabbi
01-20-2013, 06:22 PM
Geno

AussieChiefsFan
01-20-2013, 06:23 PM
Tavon Austin

WhitiE
01-20-2013, 07:16 PM
Geno

This

BossChief
01-20-2013, 09:24 PM
Uh, starting cornerback opposite Flowers? Starting Safety opposite Berry? Starting ILB next to Johnson? Backup QB?

Wide receiver is about 8th on the list.

I don't think re-signing Bowe and Albert is enough. We need to draft Geno a toy. EVERYTHING over the course of the next couple years needs to be predicated on building around Geno and helping him succeed.

While I really like Baldwin/Breaston/Bowe and think Dexter can play a role for us, I think we would be foolish to gamble with our current crop of receivers if we have a chance at grabbing another premier weapon in the second or third.

Chocolate Hog
01-20-2013, 11:55 PM
Id like to see us sign Keary Williams and go after another position in the draft

RunKC
01-21-2013, 02:27 AM
Damontre Moore.

Amazing pass rusher, outstanding run stopper. Solid coverage skills. If we had a QB already I'd want this guy at 1.

AussieChiefsFan
01-21-2013, 03:18 AM
Jesse Williams

spanky 52
01-21-2013, 04:44 AM
TE Ertz, Stanford.

htismaqe
01-21-2013, 08:57 AM
Damontre Moore.

Amazing pass rusher, outstanding run stopper. Solid coverage skills. If we had a QB already I'd want this guy at 1.

This.

htismaqe
01-21-2013, 08:58 AM
I don't think re-signing Bowe and Albert is enough. We need to draft Geno a toy. EVERYTHING over the course of the next couple years needs to be predicated on building around Geno and helping him succeed.

While I really like Baldwin/Breaston/Bowe and think Dexter can play a role for us, I think we would be foolish to gamble with our current crop of receivers if we have a chance at grabbing another premier weapon in the second or third.

While I agree with you in principle, I've changed my thinking in terms of how we acquire said "weapon". I think we should put on a full court press to get Percy Harvin myself.

OnTheWarpath58
01-21-2013, 10:00 AM
While I agree with you in principle, I've changed my thinking in terms of how we acquire said "weapon". I think we should put on a full court press to get Percy Harvin myself.

I read that Pittsburgh is NOT going to tag Mike Wallace and let him test the market.

Either would be great pickups, IMO.

Gonna take draft picks to acquire Harvin, only cash for Wallace.

the Talking Can
01-21-2013, 10:13 AM
Montee Ball

kind of like him too, but only in rounds later than he'll probably go...

off topic, but i think cyrus gray could benefit from Reid, and is a solid skill set for a WC offense...

Chocolate Hog
01-21-2013, 10:43 AM
I read that Pittsburgh is NOT going to tag Mike Wallace and let him test the market.

Either would be great pickups, IMO.

Gonna take draft picks to acquire Harvin, only cash for Wallace.

I would love Bowe/Wallace but just dont see them spending thaf money on 2 WR's

OnTheWarpath58
01-21-2013, 11:01 AM
I would love Bowe/Wallace but just dont see them spending thaf money on 2 WR's

Harvin isn't exactly going to come cheap either. Picks and cash.

ChiefsCountry
01-21-2013, 11:17 AM
Eddie Lacy

Frosty
01-21-2013, 11:31 AM
My homer pick this year for WR is Oregon State's Markus Wheaton. He is very fast (he beat Oregon's De'Anthony Thomas in the 100 meter during track season) with very good hands. He is also an outstanding teammate and hasn't ever had any off field problems. I think he compares favorably to a little bigger Desean Jackson.

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2013/01/markus-wheaton-scouting-report.html

Pestilence
01-21-2013, 11:38 AM
My homer pick this year for WR is Oregon State's Markus Wheaton. He is very fast (he beat Oregon's De'Anthony Thomas in the 100 meter during track season) with very good hands. He is also an outstanding teammate and hasn't ever had any off field problems. I think he compares favorably to a little bigger Desean Jackson.

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2013/01/markus-wheaton-scouting-report.html

I'd love to have Wheaton on the Chiefs.

htismaqe
01-21-2013, 12:07 PM
I read that Pittsburgh is NOT going to tag Mike Wallace and let him test the market.

Either would be great pickups, IMO.

Gonna take draft picks to acquire Harvin, only cash for Wallace.

Harvin is a different player than Wallace.

I don't think we need a WR myself.

We need one of the X factor guys that can line up anywhere. You know like Dexter McCluster, only not sucky.

OnTheWarpath58
01-21-2013, 12:09 PM
Harvin is a different player than Wallace.

I don't think we need a WR myself.

We need one of the X factor guys that can line up anywhere. You know like Dexter McCluster, only not sucky.

LMAO

Chocolate Hog
01-21-2013, 12:13 PM
Harvin isn't exactly going to come cheap either. Picks and cash.

Id rather spend the 2nd round pick on a wr to be honest.

HemiEd
01-21-2013, 02:05 PM
Arthur Brown, but the need for ILB stronger. It would be nice if they could pick him up as Hali is not going to be around forever, nor is DJ.

But Pioli screwed off so many picks, the team is still behind and isn't in a position to draft depth.

htismaqe
01-21-2013, 02:31 PM
Id rather spend the 2nd round pick on a wr to be honest.

Like I said, I don't think we need a WR (assuming we sign Bowe that is).

We need a matchup problem.

RustShack
01-21-2013, 07:18 PM
Not saying I want this guy, but figured this is a good thread for it. Jeremy Reeves from Iowa State is pretty good, his only problem is height. That's probably the only reason he ended up at ISU because everyone thought he was too short. He was able to overcome it in the Big12, but the NFL would be a lot harder. Like a 42" vert though that's what's helped him overcome it. Likely undrafted. Last year him and Leonard Johnson were like our Carr and Flowers. One game one was the best CB, the next the other guy was.

Rambozo
01-21-2013, 07:33 PM
Ogletree - he's a converted safety who is a 4-3 MLB. He doesn't fit in a 3-4 defense.

Molitoth
01-21-2013, 08:17 PM
I don't think re-signing Bowe and Albert is enough. We need to draft Geno a toy. EVERYTHING over the course of the next couple years needs to be predicated on building around Geno and helping him succeed.

While I really like Baldwin/Breaston/Bowe and think Dexter can play a role for us, I think we would be foolish to gamble with our current crop of receivers if we have a chance at grabbing another premier weapon in the second or third.

Why does Geno "need a toy"?

He will come into this team with a bunch of other receivers that he needs to establish a chemistry with. Baldwin could end up being his fav receiver for all we know. Don't waste picks on "toys" unless you already know Geno needs one.

We need a CB and safety first.

the Talking Can
01-21-2013, 08:27 PM
Ogletree - he's a converted safety who is a 4-3 MLB. He doesn't fit in a 3-4 defense.

while i agree he doesn't fill our need for a thumper, he played in a 3-4 at georgia...

Rambozo
01-21-2013, 08:35 PM
while i agree he doesn't fill our need for a thumper, he played in a 3-4 at georgia...

Yes he did but that was college football. He could probably do alright in the 3-4 in the pros but, he could be a pro bowler in the cover 2 or 4-3 imo.

the Talking Can
01-21-2013, 08:44 PM
Yes he did but that was college football. He could probably do alright in the 3-4 in the pros but, he could be a pro bowler in the cover 2 or 4-3 imo.

agreed

RustShack
01-21-2013, 09:32 PM
Ogletree - he's a converted safety who is a 4-3 MLB. He doesn't fit in a 3-4 defense.

4-3 MLB is an ILB in the 3-4, and would be the one that Belcher played for us...