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|Zach|
01-25-2013, 06:04 AM
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal warned fellow Republicans they "must stop being the stupid party" during a fiery and sharp critique Thursday night at the Republican National Committee's Winter Meeting.

As top Republicans gather in Charlotte on Friday, many have focused on how to best reboot the party in the face of a 2012 election cycle that saw Democrats retain the White House and gain seats in both chambers of Congress.

For Jindal, a popular rising star in the party who is thought to be an early contender for the 2016 presidential nomination, that recalibration involves Republicans learning to "stop insulting the intelligence of voters.
In the address, Jindal outlined at least seven steps that he believes Republicans need to take in order to remain competitive. In a scathing takedown, he accuses the party of "looking backwards" and having an obsession with "identity politics."

"We must reject the notion that demography is destiny, the pathetic and simplistic notion that skin pigmentation dictates voter behavior," Jindal said.

Jindal also said that the GOP must work to reframe its messaging on restricting the size of government.

"We must not become the party of austerity. We must become the party of growth," Jindal said.

He went on to take some not-so-subtle swipes at former Republican nominee Mitt Romney, insisting Republicans "must compete for every single vote the 47 percent and the 53 percent." He also told RNC Chairman Reince Priebus that he hoped he was not relying on Romney's ORCA voter information system during his reelection bid at the meeting Friday.

But among Jindal's most provocative suggestions was the demand that the GOP needed to "stop insulting the intelligence of voters" and display more intelligence themselves. Jindal's comments seemed targeted squarely at conservative candidates in Senate races whose comments on rape and abortion appeared to submarine their electoral chances.

"We had a number of Republicans damage the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments," Jindal said.

The Louisiana governor also warned that Republicans were too associated with "big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes."

"We must not be the party that simply protects the well off so they can keep their toys," Jindal said. "We have to be the party that shows all Americans how they can thrive."

Jindal, who was elected last year to chair the Republican Governor's Association, has been among the party's most vocal critics in the aftermath of last year's election, and likely looks to position the governor as a forward-thinking voice as speculation begins to ramp up about 2016.
But his keynote address also served to underscore the theme of the entire Republican retreat, which has been singularly focused on rebooting the GOP brand.

According to excerpts of a speech to be given Friday, Priebus will call on the party to compete in every state across the country and invest in a new technological push. The RNC Chairman has also appointed a new committee to solicit grassroots feedback on a path forward for the party.

Republicans face a steep road to recovery. In a NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released last week, 49 percent of respondents said they had an unfavorable
view of the party the highest figure since 2008.

Moreover, President Obama's campaign infrastructure was thought to be technologically and structurally superior on Election Day. Last weekend, Democrats announced plans to keep that organization in place with the creation of a legacy nonprofit group to be led by the president's former campaign manager, Jim Messina.

But Priebus is optimistic that the GOP will bounce back.

"The good news is our principles are sound. We stand for opportunity and for liberty. Freedom is always a new idea an ever-fresh, revolutionary idea," he plans to say.


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/279243-jindal-republicans-must-stop-being-the-stupid-party#ixzz2IzYzLUA8

Silock
01-25-2013, 06:22 AM
Too sane to go anywhere in the party.

They just want to nominate him because he isn't white. Probably not the case any longer.

Bewbies
01-25-2013, 06:33 AM
Too sane to go anywhere in the party.

They just want to nominate him because he isn't white. Probably not the case any longer.

The idiots that run the GOP will want nothing to do with him now.

blaise
01-25-2013, 06:56 AM
It's called marketing. He's doing it for himself and the GOP needs to do a better job of it as a whole. Right now they're doing a terrible job of marketing to the generation of morons who type "lol" after sentences and watch MTV.

Garcia Bronco
01-25-2013, 07:17 AM
It's called marketing. He's doing it for himself and the GOP needs to do a better job of it as a whole. Right now they're doing a terrible job of marketing to the generation of morons who type "lol" after sentences and watch MTV.

lol...yep. :D

FD
01-25-2013, 09:32 AM
I await Sarah Palin's rebuttal.

Cave Johnson
01-25-2013, 10:17 AM
Governor Kenneth makes some excellent points....

ChiTown
01-25-2013, 10:21 AM
It's called marketing. He's doing it for himself and the GOP needs to do a better job of it as a whole. Right now they're doing a terrible job of marketing to the generation of morons who type "lol" after sentences and watch MTV.

ROFL - great fucking point!

Amnorix
01-25-2013, 10:22 AM
Think he makes perfect sense in many respects. There's no reason Republicans can't get more of the hispanic vote. When you're talking about emigrants who want to work hard to make money to send to their families -- that's right in their wheel house of work ethic and family-focused.

But they blow their own feet off over and over again by ACTING like, to be blunt, ignorant bigoted heartless assholes. Whether they ARE or not is an entirely different question -- that's how they come across. They need to reshape their image and expand their base by reaching out to democraphic groups that they have historically spurned.

dirk digler
01-25-2013, 10:23 AM
We must not be the party of austerity all the while I am going to cut Hospicare care for the poor.

htismaqe
01-25-2013, 10:24 AM
The Republicans weren't the only ones who bailed out banks and Wall Street.

It's funny how they pretend we have 2 parties and those 2 parties aren't COMPLETELY complicit in continuing to fleece the American people...

dirk digler
01-25-2013, 10:25 AM
But they blow their own feet off over and over again by ACTING like, to be blunt, ignorant bigoted heartless assholes.

That is because they are blunt, ignorant bigoted heartless assholes. LOL LOL LOL

BucEyedPea
01-25-2013, 10:32 AM
The Republicans weren't the only ones who bailed out banks and Wall Street.

It's funny how they pretend we have 2 parties and those 2 parties aren't COMPLETELY complicit in continuing to fleece the American people...

Yup! But that doesn't matter. The idea is for the left to Alinskyize the GOP, when it's more like a fight between the national socialists/mercantilists versus the communists. Where are the free-marketers and Constitutionalists? There are other ways between these two ideologies.

And Direckshun's first bolded sentence shows me Jindal is advocating Progressivism—what the GOP does anyway. Move left GOP! Move left!
The GOP got the Hispanic vote with Bush.

The real truth is people are disgusted with both parties.

BucEyedPea
01-25-2013, 10:36 AM
Who really cares about the Presidency. I'd rather have Congress, because that's the better hope for change. They have to have spines though. It's too easy to control one man in the executive branch. Just get the right CoS on him, and certain things will be the issues of the day.

CoMoChief
01-25-2013, 02:20 PM
BO's staff in his first term was almost all WallSt goons.

BucEyedPea
01-25-2013, 02:25 PM
Hispanics are usually Catholic. The GOP's social issues are in their camp. But they also like welfare spending and that doesn't endear them to GOP issues. I do think the left's hold over education and laxness on illegal immigration has helped them. So the left has no right to cry about gerrymandering.

Amnorix
01-25-2013, 02:44 PM
Hispanics are usually Catholic. The GOP's social issues are in their camp. But they also like welfare spending and that doesn't endear them to GOP issues. I do think the left's hold over education and laxness on illegal immigration has helped them. So the left has no right to cry about gerrymandering.


Your thought process is just plain strange. None of the sentences prior to the last has anything to do with the "conclusion" set forth in your last sentence, whether or not true.

blaise
01-25-2013, 02:48 PM
I see more conservatives on twitter trending toward this language. "Pro-Life. Pro-Gay" was one little bumper sticker type thing I saw recently.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-25-2013, 02:54 PM
The Republicans weren't the only ones who bailed out banks and Wall Street.

It's funny how they pretend we have 2 parties and those 2 parties aren't COMPLETELY complicit in continuing to fleece the American people...

Absofuckinglutely.

verbaljitsu
01-25-2013, 03:00 PM
My favorite story about Bobby Jindal:

He wrote an article about witnessing an exorcism. The title of the article is Physical Dimensions of Spiritual Warfare. http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=1294-jindal

In fairness, he wrote the article years ago, and his views may have changed.

But, it is hard to take a man seriously on the subject of intellectualism, when he talks about compelling Satan to leave a girl's body.

cosmo20002
01-25-2013, 03:15 PM
My favorite story about Bobby Jindal:

He wrote an article about witnessing an exorcism. The title of the article is Physical Dimensions of Spiritual Warfare. http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=1294-jindal

In fairness, he wrote the article years ago, and his views may have changed.

But, it is hard to take a man seriously on the subject of intellectualism, when he talks about compelling Satan to leave a girl's body.

Well, what would you expect him to do, just leave him there?

listopencil
01-25-2013, 03:23 PM
Well, what would you expect him to do, just leave him there?

Hey, now. Stop insulting the intelligence of voters.

KC native
01-25-2013, 03:53 PM
Hispanics are usually Catholic. The GOP's social issues are in their camp. But they also like welfare spending and that doesn't endear them to GOP issues. I do think the left's hold over education and laxness on illegal immigration has helped them. So the left has no right to cry about gerrymandering.

Aside from Amno's criticism, why do you act like you know something about Hispanics?

Yes, many of them are socially conservative. Despite that and unlike other US conservatives, they don't think their way of life should be imposed on everyone.

RedNeckRaider
01-25-2013, 03:57 PM
Aside from Amno's criticism, why do you act like you know something about Hispanics?

Yes, many of them are socially conservative. Despite that and unlike other US conservatives, they don't think their way of life should be imposed on everyone.

Of course not, that is why we have bilingual signs everywhere and have to push a number for English. Fuck off seriously~

listopencil
01-25-2013, 03:59 PM
Aside from Amno's criticism, why do you act like you know something about Hispanics?

Yes, many of them are socially conservative. Despite that and unlike other US conservatives, they don't think their way of life should be imposed on everyone.

It's always more complicated than any generalization can cover when you are referring to a large group of people.

RedNeckRaider
01-25-2013, 04:21 PM
It's always more complicated than any generalization can cover when you are referring to a large group of people.

Bullshit this nation has been a melting pot from the start. There has been immigration from countries that do not speak English from the beginning. Only one region has provided a population of people who refuse to assimilate. They refuse to obey our immigration laws or learn our language. They quickly learn how to benefit from our country and that is their only interest~

jettio
01-25-2013, 04:23 PM
Jindal is at times impressive, but sometimes he looks too much like the young Montgomery Burns and while that might help him get the GOP nomination, that could hurt him in the general election.

dirk digler
01-25-2013, 04:33 PM
Bullshit this nation has been a melting pot from the start. There has been immigration from countries that do not speak English from the beginning. Only one country has provided a population of people who refuse to assimilate. They refuse to obey our immigration laws or learn our language. They quickly learn how to benefit from our country and that is their only interest~

I disagree somewhat. 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics primarily speak English and use that as their main language.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/files/2012/04/2012-phc-identity-17.png

RedNeckRaider
01-25-2013, 04:37 PM
I disagree somewhat. 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics primarily speak English and use that as their main language.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/files/2012/04/2012-phc-identity-17.png

Please show me a comparable country or region where our country has had to accommodate on the level we have these people?

KC native
01-25-2013, 07:01 PM
Bullshit this nation has been a melting pot from the start. There has been immigration from countries that do not speak English from the beginning. Only one region has provided a population of people who refuse to assimilate. They refuse to obey our immigration laws or learn our language. They quickly learn how to benefit from our country and that is their only interest~

You are a dipshit. Like Dirk pointed out, Latino immigrants are one of the fastest assimilating immigrant populations. Asians are the fastest.


The rest of your post is exactly what Jindal is talking about though.

edit: You also have a very distorted view of our history and immigration (patterns, demographics, etc).

listopencil
01-25-2013, 10:31 PM
Bullshit this nation has been a melting pot from the start. There has been immigration from countries that do not speak English from the beginning. Only one region has provided a population of people who refuse to assimilate. They refuse to obey our immigration laws or learn our language. They quickly learn how to benefit from our country and that is their only interest~


You're full of shit.

listopencil
01-25-2013, 10:51 PM
Please show me a comparable country or region where our country has had to accommodate on the level we have these people?

Take your pick:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.svg/800px-Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.svg.png

listopencil
01-25-2013, 10:53 PM
I disagree somewhat. 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics primarily speak English and use that as their main language.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/files/2012/04/2012-phc-identity-17.png

Just to echo your point:

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2007/11/29/english-usage-among-hispanics-in-the-united-states/

listopencil
01-25-2013, 10:56 PM
God damn Germans, trying to take over our country by forcing their language upon us:



Abseil (descend by rope)
Angst (fear, depression, anger)
Ansatz (entry, mathematical approach)
Anschluss (connection)
Automat (machine)
Bildungsroman (a coming of age story)
Delicatessen (proper name for a deli)
Doppelganger (someone’s double, often used in literature)
Edelweiss (type of flower)
Fest (feast, celebration, party)
Gedenkenexperiment (experiment)
Gelandesprung (ski term)
Gesundheit (bless you)
Hinterland (backwoods)
Kaput (not working, broken)
Kindergarten (grade before first grade)
Kitsch (fake art, art mocking something else)
Kraut (herb, cabbage)
Leitmotif (theme, often used in literature)
To plunder (taking goods by force)
Poltergeist (ghost)
Realpolitik (political practice)
Rucksack (backpack)
Ubermensch (superhuman)
Wanderlust (pleasure, desire, wanting)
Wunderkind (child prodigy)
Liverwurst (type of food)
Gestapo (police force)
Noodle (a type of pasta, a pool tool)
Cobalt (a color)
Homburg (a felt hat, generally for a man)
Panzer (a type of German tank)
Pretzel (of the soft or hard variety)
Streusel (a dessert type of food)
Langlauf (cross country running or skiing)
Sparerib (a breed of meat)
Kuchen (coffee cakes)
Stollen (sweet yeast bread)
Waltz (a formal dance)
Umlaut (a specific rhetoric device involving vowels)
Autobahn (an expressway)
Rucksack (knapsack)
Meistersinger (member of a certain German guild from the 15th and 16th centuries)
Vorlage (a skiing position)
Pitchblende (a mineral)
Dachshund (breed of dog)
Haversack (a bag worn over the shoulder)
Echt (true, genuine)
Pumpernickel (type of bread)
Graupel (particulars of snow)
Spritz (a small amount of something, usually a liquid)
Seltzer (type of soda)
Nosh (small amount of food, or to eat a small amount of food)
Eiderdown (a type of down)
Bratwurst (a type of food)
Wagnerian (a follower of composer Richard Wagner)
Prattle (utter sounds)
Sauerbraten (a type of food)
Schnauzer (a breed of dog)
Gestalt (a psychological term)
Knapsack (a backpack or book bag)
Cringle (part of a sail on a boat)
Lederhosen (leather shorts)
Einkorn (an ancient type of wheat)
Feldspar (specific types of minerals)
Bagel (a type of food)
Fife (a small type of flute)
Verboten (forbidden)
Kohlrabi (type of cabbage)
Hamster (a small animal)

http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/word-lists/list-of-english-words-of-german-origin.html

KILLER_CLOWN
01-25-2013, 11:08 PM
God damn Germans, trying to take over our country by forcing their language upon us:



Abseil (descend by rope)
Angst (fear, depression, anger)
Ansatz (entry, mathematical approach)
Anschluss (connection)
Automat (machine)
Bildungsroman (a coming of age story)
Delicatessen (proper name for a deli)
Doppelganger (someones double, often used in literature)
Edelweiss (type of flower)
Fest (feast, celebration, party)
Gedenkenexperiment (experiment)
Gelandesprung (ski term)
Gesundheit (bless you)
Hinterland (backwoods)
Kaput (not working, broken)
Kindergarten (grade before first grade)
Kitsch (fake art, art mocking something else)
Kraut (herb, cabbage)
Leitmotif (theme, often used in literature)
To plunder (taking goods by force)
Poltergeist (ghost)
Realpolitik (political practice)
Rucksack (backpack)
Ubermensch (superhuman)
Wanderlust (pleasure, desire, wanting)
Wunderkind (child prodigy)
Liverwurst (type of food)
Gestapo (police force)
Noodle (a type of pasta, a pool tool)
Cobalt (a color)
Homburg (a felt hat, generally for a man)
Panzer (a type of German tank)
Pretzel (of the soft or hard variety)
Streusel (a dessert type of food)
Langlauf (cross country running or skiing)
Sparerib (a breed of meat)
Kuchen (coffee cakes)
Stollen (sweet yeast bread)
Waltz (a formal dance)
Umlaut (a specific rhetoric device involving vowels)
Autobahn (an expressway)
Rucksack (knapsack)
Meistersinger (member of a certain German guild from the 15th and 16th centuries)
Vorlage (a skiing position)
Pitchblende (a mineral)
Dachshund (breed of dog)
Haversack (a bag worn over the shoulder)
Echt (true, genuine)
Pumpernickel (type of bread)
Graupel (particulars of snow)
Spritz (a small amount of something, usually a liquid)
Seltzer (type of soda)
Nosh (small amount of food, or to eat a small amount of food)
Eiderdown (a type of down)
Bratwurst (a type of food)
Wagnerian (a follower of composer Richard Wagner)
Prattle (utter sounds)
Sauerbraten (a type of food)
Schnauzer (a breed of dog)
Gestalt (a psychological term)
Knapsack (a backpack or book bag)
Cringle (part of a sail on a boat)
Lederhosen (leather shorts)
Einkorn (an ancient type of wheat)
Feldspar (specific types of minerals)
Bagel (a type of food)
Fife (a small type of flute)
Verboten (forbidden)
Kohlrabi (type of cabbage)
Hamster (a small animal)

http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/word-lists/list-of-english-words-of-german-origin.html

Panzer (a type of German tank)
*-Pansy (a pissant little nothing)

so different....

listopencil
01-25-2013, 11:21 PM
Panzer (a type of German tank)
*-Pansy (a pissant little nothing)

so different....

Well, panzer is German for armor. A pansy is a type of flower.

KILLER_CLOWN
01-25-2013, 11:22 PM
Well, panzer is German for armor. A pansy is a type of flower.

Heh ya but I'm going with the slang term I know. :D

Even so tank=flower? just as bad.

listopencil
01-25-2013, 11:23 PM
Heh ya but I'm going with the slang term I know. :D

Yeah, but meanwhile, what are we going to do about all these damn Germans?

listopencil
01-25-2013, 11:26 PM
Even so tank=flower? just as bad.

The etymology is completely different.

KILLER_CLOWN
01-25-2013, 11:30 PM
The etymology is completely different.

Can't I have some fun @ 12:30 on a Saturday morning?

listopencil
01-25-2013, 11:46 PM
Can't I have some fun @ 12:30 on a Saturday morning?

Sure, sure. Here's a screaming sheep for you to laugh at, it always cracks me up. Plug in your headset:

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/SIaFtAKnqBU" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>


...and here's a nice song by Jason Mraz to bring it down a little:

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/cuSxfx9bNqo" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe>

SNR
01-25-2013, 11:59 PM
Yeah, but meanwhile, what are we going to do about all these damn Germans?

We could always send them to camp.

Pitt Gorilla
01-26-2013, 12:08 AM
Republicans remain relevant largely due to stupid people. Why would they want to alienate such a large part of their base?

RedNeckRaider
01-26-2013, 03:23 AM
Take your pick:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.svg/800px-Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.svg.png

I have not noticed the signs in their language or have I heard their language on phone recordings. Has our schools, and first responders been impacted a fraction of the level accommodating these other immigrants that they have been by Hispanics. I was unaware we had huge numbers of other nationalities sneaking into our country ignoring our laws~

BucEyedPea
01-26-2013, 05:19 AM
Henry Kissinger says we're creating an international society. Wonder who the "we" are when he says this. Anyhow, welcome to globalism.

CoMoChief
01-26-2013, 06:20 AM
Henry Kissinger says we're creating an international society. Wonder who the "we" are when he says this. Anyhow, welcome to globalism.

NWO

Ace Gunner
01-26-2013, 06:30 AM
"We must not become the party of austerity. We must become the party of growth,"

the spin is in -- republican leaders such as Nixon, Reagan & the Bush's are primarily responsible for gov't growth.

BucEyedPea
01-26-2013, 06:47 AM
"We must not become the party of austerity. We must become the party of growth,"

the spin is in -- republican leaders such as Nixon, Reagan & the Bush's are primarily responsible for gov't growth.

Yup! Jindal sounds like another RINO. The thing is govt should be under economic and fiscal austerity so that, we the people, can enjoy economic growth. How 'bout they say it like that?

BucEyedPea
01-26-2013, 06:49 AM
NWO

As of the past few months, I've come to the conclusion that globalism is the same thing as the NWO.

CoMoChief
01-26-2013, 09:04 AM
As of the past few months, I've come to the conclusion that globalism is the same thing as the NWO.

it is

Prison Bitch
01-26-2013, 09:32 AM
Where exactly in the quotes does he specifically say "the stupid party"?


They are the stupid party of course, as opposed to the Dems who are the evil party. But they are stupid for other reaons than the ones the Left lays out. They are stupid for not doing the things they should in defense of liberty and small government. I just want to see Jindal's actual speech to see where he said "stupid party" specifically.