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petegz28
01-25-2013, 05:54 PM
Thankfully there are some smart Democrats in office...

The new legislation prohibits the sale or transfer of 158 of the most commonly owned military-style assault weapons. It exempts all assault weapons legally possessed prior to passage of the law and excludes more than 2,200 hunting and sporting rifles.

Baucus, in a Jan. 16 statement, said that “before passing new laws, we need a thoughtful debate that respects responsible, law-abiding gun owners in Montana instead of a one-size-fits-all directive from Washington.”

“The answer isn’t simply in limiting guns,” said Andrea Helling, a spokeswoman for Tester. The senator also told the Missoulian newspaper that an assault weapons ban wouldn’t have stopped the shootings in Newtown.

Begich said he was “not interested” in a ban, during a Jan. 10 conference call with reporters.

“I don’t believe that we need to pile on new laws and suddenly that solves all the problems,” he said. Manchin told CNN on Jan. 13 that the debate can’t be “about guns and guns only and a “stand-alone ban” will “not go anywhere.”

Two freshmen also expressed skepticism about an assault weapons ban.

“There isn’t any amount of gun regulation or gun executive orders that will solve the problem of identifying people who could potentially do this and making sure they get the help and their families get the help so they don’t do this,” Heitkamp told North Dakota’s KXMB-TV and KXMC-TV Jan. 15.

Scott Ogden, a spokesman for King, said the senator “remains skeptical” about an assault weapons ban, though he was waiting for more details. And Collins is concerned that the proposed legislation is “far broader in the kinds of rifles that would be banned than was the case in the law in effect between 1994 and 2004,” said her spokesman, Kevin Kelley.

Further dimming prospects for the assault weapon ban, Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, both Democrats, voted against extending a previous ban in 2004. Neither has made any public statements since Newtown indicating that they will change their positions.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-25/assault-weapons-ban-lacks-democratic-votes-to-pass-senate.html

notorious
01-25-2013, 06:06 PM
ROFL


That's a damn shame.

stonedstooge
01-25-2013, 06:08 PM
Will Dirty Harry Reid even allow the Senate to vote on it? I'm sure there are bunches of Democrats that don't want to go on record with a vote in the House and Senate

notorious
01-25-2013, 06:08 PM
But, like a friend told me, in two years things can change dramatically.


If the Pubs lose the House, gun owners will be under direct assault. They will use the so-called "Research" by the CDC to impose their will.

Prison Bitch
01-25-2013, 06:43 PM
Amazing those fools have the votes for any of their dumb ideas.

Prison Bitch
01-25-2013, 06:44 PM
But, like a friend told me, in two years things can change dramatically.


If the Pubs lose the House, gun owners will be under direct assault. They will use the so-called "Research" by the CDC to impose their will.

Dens are going to get killed in the 2014 senate races anyway.

Bwana
01-25-2013, 06:50 PM
I figured as much and will sell off some of my AR's tomorrow for a LARGE profit. Fuck mining for gold or the stock market, I bought a shit load of AR's and will sell them a month later for a 2k profit on each one of them.

Thanks Obama, thanks Feinstein! I'm starting to warm up to this "Hope and Change." :)

A Salt Weapon
01-25-2013, 07:27 PM
Be careful. We said the same thing about obamacare and we all know how that turned out.
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2bikemike
01-25-2013, 07:30 PM
Be careful. We said the same thing about obamacare and we all know how that turned out.
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Yeah I have no confidence in level heads prevailing.

Not to mention if you lived in a fugged up state like Calif. your are bound to see changes locally.

rockymtnchief
01-25-2013, 07:55 PM
I figured as much and will sell off some of my AR's tomorrow for a LARGE profit. Fuck mining for gold or the stock market, I bought a shit load of AR's and will sell them a month later for a 2k profit on each one of them.

Thanks Obama, thanks Feinstein! I'm starting to warm up to this "Hope and Change." :)

Let me know what ya got!

Bwana
01-25-2013, 08:00 PM
Let me know what ya got!

Heh, H-man, if I would have had it to do over again I would have bought about 50-100 more of the scary AK/AR guns.

petegz28
01-25-2013, 08:02 PM
Be careful. We said the same thing about obamacare and we all know how that turned out.
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True. However even Reid has said pretty much from the get go that the votes were not there and if anything the House Repubs would block it. I think they are going to make this push and then try to get the Pubs to settle for things like 10 round magazines as a compromise, etc.

LiveSteam
01-25-2013, 08:10 PM
Heh, H-man, if I would have had it to do over again I would have bought about 50-100 more of the scary AK/AR guns.

Its how I feel about the $80.00 Tula SKS's of the early 90's.

rockymtnchief
01-25-2013, 08:26 PM
Heh, H-man, if I would have had it to do over again I would have bought about 50-100 more of the scary AK/AR guns.

Me too. It sucks living in the sticks sometimes.

I sold my Colt Match HBar AR15 at the beginning of December. :banghead: I made a good profit, but was late trying to replace it after the big assault rifle rampage.

I put in an order for a DDM4 V1 at your boys at Butts over 5 weeks ago. They don't return my calls. I have no idea if they're trying to get me one or just threw all my info away.

cosmo20002
01-25-2013, 08:32 PM
Dems don't have votes for Weapons Ban



What's the difference? I thought Obama was going to issue an executive order repealing the 2nd Amendment.

petegz28
01-25-2013, 08:44 PM
What's the difference? I thought Obama was going to issue an executive order repealing the 2nd Amendment.

Cry a little more for us

cosmo20002
01-25-2013, 08:48 PM
Cry a little more for us

Crying? I'm mocking you. All the hysterics about "Obama taking our guns away!"

BucEyedPea
01-25-2013, 08:50 PM
But Obama would take them all away, 'cept for squirtguns ( maybe),if he could get away with it.
All govt leaders would like to be totalitarian if they could.

petegz28
01-25-2013, 08:52 PM
Crying? I'm mocking you. All the hysterics about "Obama taking our guns away!"

Mocking me? Like you have room.... let's see what we hear from your side of the isle every fucking day...

the right hates blacks
the right hates poor people
the right hates poor black people
the right hates minorities
the right hates women
the right hates minority women
the right hates kids
the right hates minority kids
the right hates poor minority kids
the right hates old people
the right hates poor old people
the right wants everyone to die in the streets
the right never wants to help anyone
the right only cares about the rich white guy


what else have I left off? I know there has to be more

go bowe
01-25-2013, 09:01 PM
Mocking me? Like you have room.... let's see what we hear from your side of the isle every fucking day...

the right hates blacks
the right hates poor people
the right hates poor black people
the right hates minorities
the right hates women
the right hates minority women
the right hates kids
the right hates minority kids
the right hates poor minority kids
the right hates old people
the right hates poor old people
the right wants everyone to die in the streets
the right never wants to help anyone
the right only cares about the rich white guy


what else have I left off? I know there has to be more

yes, grasshopper, truth is the path to enlightenment...

A Salt Weapon
01-25-2013, 09:01 PM
Mocking me? Like you have room.... let's see what we hear from your side of the isle every fucking day...

the right hates blacks
the right hates poor people
the right hates poor black people
the right hates minorities
the right hates women
the right hates minority women
the right hates kids
the right hates minority kids
the right hates poor minority kids
the right hates old people
the right hates poor old people
the right wants everyone to die in the streets
the right never wants to help anyone
the right only cares about the rich white guy


what else have I left off? I know there has to be more

Bravo!
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Bwana
01-25-2013, 09:04 PM
Me too. It sucks living in the sticks sometimes.

I sold my Colt Match HBar AR15 at the beginning of December. :banghead: I made a good profit, but was late trying to replace it after the big assault rifle rampage.

I put in an order for a DDM4 V1 at your boys at Butts over 5 weeks ago. They don't return my calls. I have no idea if they're trying to get me one or just threw all my info away.

You might wants to give Daddy O's Pawn a call as well.

https://plus.google.com/105181034281610434953/about?gl=us&hl=en#105181034281610434953/about?gl=us&hl=en

cosmo20002
01-25-2013, 09:08 PM
Mocking me? Like you have room.... let's see what we hear from your side of the isle every ****ing day...

the right hates blacks
the right hates poor people
the right hates poor black people
the right hates minorities
the right hates women
the right hates minority women
the right hates kids
the right hates minority kids
the right hates poor minority kids
the right hates old people
the right hates poor old people
the right wants everyone to die in the streets
the right never wants to help anyone
the right only cares about the rich white guy


what else have I left off? I know there has to be more

Yes, what is your point?

A Salt Weapon
01-25-2013, 09:15 PM
Yes, what is your point?

That you're a fucking retard.
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cosmo20002
01-25-2013, 09:17 PM
But Obama would take them all away, 'cept for squirtguns ( maybe),if he could get away with it.
All govt leaders would like to be totalitarian if they could.

Loony. What, he would name himself dictator for life if people had no guns? If he was so inclined, he could do that now. No matter what the citizenry has in its arsenal right now, he has more.

rockymtnchief
01-25-2013, 09:17 PM
You might wants to give Daddy O's Pawn a call as well.

https://plus.google.com/105181034281610434953/about?gl=us&hl=en#105181034281610434953/about?gl=us&hl=en

Butts is a Daniel Defense dealer. DD had the V1 in stock and ready to ship Dec 26th. They were still in stock until the 28th. That's what I get for trying to buy local. I'm pretty pissed. I was in there the 23rd and called on the 26th and 28th. I'll just be patient for now.

A Salt Weapon
01-25-2013, 09:25 PM
Yes, what is your point?

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth.

You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a slug than be seen with you. You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beast who sired you and then killed himself in recognition of what he had done. Your daddy was a bastard, your mamma was a whore, and you wouldn't be here if the rubber hadn't tore. I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you.

You have all the appeal of a booger. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood.

May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Sheep won't have sex with you––only trash such as yourself.

You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.
And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile, one-handed, slack-jawed, drooling, meatslapper. On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool.

You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of a used condom. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have toe jam. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away forever.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid, so stupid it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid.
You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid.
Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me.
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cosmo20002
01-25-2013, 09:29 PM
You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth.

You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a slug than be seen with you. You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.


Neat. You can cut and paste. You're a nut.

notorious
01-26-2013, 08:10 AM
Butt-Hurt tears are delicious.

KILLER_CLOWN
01-26-2013, 08:15 AM
This is a hold up: Rahm Emanuel takes gun battle to banks

Mayor Rahm Emanuel is taking his gun control push to private banks and asking major lenders in Chicago to stop doing business with firearms manufacturers.

In a letter to TD Bank and Bank of America on Thursday, Mr. Emanuel asked the CEOs to force gun manufacturers they do business with to “find common ground with the vast majority of Americans who support a military weapons and ammunition ban.”

TD Bank provides $60 million in credit to Smith & Wesson; Bank of America provides a $25 million line to Sturm, Ruger & Co.

Mr. Emanuel can’t force the banks to comply, and so far, CEOs haven’t responded, the Boston Globe reports.

But the Chicago pol did just convince city officials to divest $5 billion in pension fund investments from companies that manufacture guns.

And that effort is reverberating among states. New York and California have both halted pension investments in companies that do business with the gun industry, according to various media reports.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/25/rahm-emanuel-takes-battle-against-guns-banks/#ixzz2J5wsAWOI
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

notorious
01-26-2013, 08:21 AM
This is a hold up: Rahm Emanuel takes gun battle to banks

Mayor Rahm Emanuel is taking his gun control push to private banks and asking major lenders in Chicago to stop doing business with firearms manufacturers.

In a letter to TD Bank and Bank of America on Thursday, Mr. Emanuel asked the CEOs to force gun manufacturers they do business with to “find common ground with the vast majority of Americans who support a military weapons and ammunition ban.”

TD Bank provides $60 million in credit to Smith & Wesson; Bank of America provides a $25 million line to Sturm, Ruger & Co.

Mr. Emanuel can’t force the banks to comply, and so far, CEOs haven’t responded, the Boston Globe reports.

But the Chicago pol did just convince city officials to divest $5 billion in pension fund investments from companies that manufacture guns.

And that effort is reverberating among states. New York and California have both halted pension investments in companies that do business with the gun industry, according to various media reports.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/25/rahm-emanuel-takes-battle-against-guns-banks/#ixzz2J5wsAWOI
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter




You have got to be kidding.

KILLER_CLOWN
01-26-2013, 08:23 AM
You have got to be kidding.

Rahmbozo: never let a good crisis go to waste is unfortunately not kidding, a major league asshat.

Direckshun
01-30-2013, 02:04 PM
A plurality of Texans would actually be fine with the ASB.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/01/texans-support-assault-weapons-ban-mixed-on-cornyn.html#more

Heh.

Fish
01-30-2013, 02:15 PM
Be careful. We said the same thing about obamacare and we all know how that turned out.
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Well that's considerably different. A weapons ban would be taking away things that are currently legal. Obamacare is adding something that many people don't want. Taking existing legal possessions away is infinitely harder to implement.

RNR
01-30-2013, 03:02 PM
A plurality of Texans would actually be fine with the ASB.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/01/texans-support-assault-weapons-ban-mixed-on-cornyn.html#more

Heh.

Maybe they are hoping to get rid of some of the guns this administration handed out~

notorious
01-31-2013, 07:55 AM
Bump for more tears.