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Saul Good
01-30-2013, 08:13 AM
Would you support the legalization of weed if it meant making alcohol illegal?

Dayze
01-30-2013, 08:23 AM
sure, why not. as long as drug tests were illegal too.
:)

tooge
01-30-2013, 08:24 AM
Sure, it's easier to brew your own beer and Rum

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 08:25 AM
Sure, it's easier to brew your own beer and Rum

Growing weed smells MUCH better.

Dayze
01-30-2013, 08:26 AM
not to get completely DC/off-track, but the fact that weed is illegal is retarded.

and I haven't smoked in probably 20 years.

okoye35chiefs
01-30-2013, 09:05 AM
where is the abstain from both option? :bolt:

BigMeatballDave
01-30-2013, 09:06 AM
Having done both, alcohol is far more dangerous when abused.

okoye35chiefs
01-30-2013, 09:07 AM
Having done both, alcohol is far more dangerous when abused.

:clap:

Rain Man
01-30-2013, 09:08 AM
I voted no. I'm not a fan of either, but the smell of marijuana makes me nauseous. If people are drinking alcohol it doesn't impact me unless they kill me with their car. If people are smoking marijuana it pervades the air around them and makes me sick. And I live in Denver, so I know what I'm talking about.

KC Tattoo
01-30-2013, 09:10 AM
In before Bump

unnecessary drama
01-30-2013, 09:11 AM
Having done both, alcohol is far more dangerous when abused.

I agree even though I have little experience with marijuana

Saul Good
01-30-2013, 09:21 AM
I voted no. I'm not a fan of either, but the smell of marijuana makes me nauseous. If people are drinking alcohol it doesn't impact me unless they kill me with their car. If people are smoking marijuana it pervades the air around them and makes me sick. And I live in Denver, so I know what I'm talking about.

That's a pretty big "unless".

I think it's interesting that the poll is split exactly down the middle, btw.

Predarat
01-30-2013, 09:27 AM
Next poll idea:

Would you allow the gubbment to ban knives if they back off Gun Control?

Rain Man
01-30-2013, 09:27 AM
That's a pretty big "unless".

I think it's interesting that the poll is split exactly down the middle, btw.

Yeah, I wouldn't want that to happen.

It's a classic case of having two scenarios: something really bad that's really rare, or something that's slightly bad that's common. In my case, I think the more common thing has a bigger lifestyle impact when you play the odds.

boogblaster
01-30-2013, 09:29 AM
yea .....

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 09:34 AM
I agree even though I have little experience with marijuana

Sucks to be you!

loochy
01-30-2013, 09:35 AM
In before Bump

lol yeah.

In before "weed cures cancer, aids, ebola, the flu, and Lou Gherig's"

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 09:36 AM
lol yeah.

In before "weed cures cancer, aids, ebola, the flu, and Lou Gherig's"

It cures idiocy.

Or at least makes it easier to tolerate...

KCUnited
01-30-2013, 09:36 AM
I have no problem with the current setup.

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-30-2013, 09:43 AM
I don't drink or drug anymore, so whatever.
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chefs fan in omaha
01-30-2013, 09:43 AM
Would you want the bus driver taking your kids to school to be stoned?

Nuff said

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-30-2013, 09:44 AM
Would you want the bus driver taking your kids to school to be stoned?

Nuff said

Otto did it for years...
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mr. tegu
01-30-2013, 09:48 AM
Most people don't have family get togethers and start smoking weed. Do you really want to be breaking the law to have wine at your Christmas dinner?

Fish
01-30-2013, 09:50 AM
Would you want the bus driver taking your kids to school to be stoned?

Nuff said

I wouldn't want a bus driver on any substance. But if I were forced to choose between the two, I'd rather have a driver stoned than drunk. The impairment from pot is "Safer" behind the wheel than the impairment from booze.

My bus driver back in school was an alcoholic....

Saul Good
01-30-2013, 09:51 AM
Would you want the bus driver taking your kids to school to be stoned?

Nuff said

No, I'd rather he be wasted. Good point.

WhiteWhale
01-30-2013, 09:52 AM
Would you want the bus driver taking your kids to school to be stoned?

Nuff said

I wouldn't want them to be drunk either.

I fail to see the point.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 09:53 AM
Would you want the bus driver taking your kids to school to be stoned?

Nuff said

Who said anything about that?

:facepalm:

WhiteWhale
01-30-2013, 09:56 AM
I wouldn't want a bus driver on any substance. But if I were forced to choose between the two, I'd rather have a driver stoned than drunk. The impairment from pot is "Safer" behind the wheel than the impairment from booze.

My bus driver back in school was an alcoholic....

I've noticed one problem is that there is this perception that people who smoke weed are under the influence of it 24/7 and never stop smoking. It's like saying everyone who has a beer is drunk 24/7, except nobody really assumes that. Most people enjoy a drink once and a while yet it is assumed they are not an alcoholic. Anyone who smokes weed, no matter the frequency, is assumed to be a 24/7 burn out.

BigMeatballDave
01-30-2013, 09:56 AM
Would you want the bus driver taking your kids to school to be stoned?

Nuff said

Would you want them to be drunk?

Most companies don't test for alcohol.

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-30-2013, 09:57 AM
They do now.
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Chief Roundup
01-30-2013, 09:57 AM
Would you want the bus driver taking your kids to school to be stoned?

Nuff said

No, but I would rather the driver be stoned instead of drunk if I had to choose between the 2.

PaulAllen
01-30-2013, 09:58 AM
Would you want the bus driver taking your kids to school to be stoned?

Nuff said

I always drove much more careful under marijuana.

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-30-2013, 09:58 AM
How about you do your work sober and then do your business on your own time? That sounds like a very American thing to do if you ask me.
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htismaqe
01-30-2013, 10:00 AM
I've noticed one problem is that there is this perception that people who smoke weed are under the influence of it 24/7 and never stop smoking. It's like saying everyone who has a beer is drunk 24/7, except nobody really assumes that. Most people enjoy a drink once and a while yet it is assumed they are not an alcoholic. Anyone who smokes weed, no matter the frequency, is assumed to be a 24/7 burn out.

Pretty much.

Stupid double standard.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 10:01 AM
I always drove much more careful under marijuana.

"School starts at 8:05 sharp, Paul. The kids cannot be arriving at the school at 10:15 anymore. Is that clear?"

Chief Roundup
01-30-2013, 10:02 AM
How about you do your work sober and then do your business on your own time? That sounds like a very American thing to do if you ask me.
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Anymore it seems the american thing to do is scream for and demand acceptance for perversions.

Chief Roundup
01-30-2013, 10:03 AM
"School starts at 8:05 sharp, Paul. The kids cannot be arriving at the school at 10:15 anymore. Is that clear?"

ROFL

PaulAllen
01-30-2013, 10:05 AM
"School starts at 8:05 sharp, Paul. The kids cannot be arriving at the school at 10:15 anymore. Is that clear?"

listen, if i got them there safe and sound isnt that all that matters? who cares if we swung by the 7-11 and the arcade for three hours?

Bowser
01-30-2013, 10:09 AM
Voted no, but there is no good reason for weed to be illegal.

I still have no clue why they don't legalize it. The tax revenue alone would pull us out of debt in a remarkably short time.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 10:10 AM
Anymore it seems the american thing to do is scream for and demand acceptance for perversions.

Perversions?

ROFL

Stoners don't fuck horses, dumbshit.

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-30-2013, 10:10 AM
lol
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Chief Roundup
01-30-2013, 10:12 AM
Perversions?

ROFL

Stoners don't **** horses, dumbshit.

It was a general statement not meant about the weed. Dumbshit.

Bowser
01-30-2013, 10:12 AM
Perversions?

ROFL

Stoners don't fuck horses, dumbshit.

Don't try to cover your tracks.

JASONSAUTO
01-30-2013, 10:16 AM
i like to drink but i would much rather weed be legal.

Rain Man
01-30-2013, 10:20 AM
Perversions?

ROFL

Stoners don't **** horses, dumbshit.


That's only because there aren't any horses in Florida.

Mr. Laz
01-30-2013, 10:22 AM
Voted no, but there is no good reason for weed to be illegal.

I still have no clue why they don't legalize it. The tax revenue alone would pull us out of debt in a remarkably short time.

and reduce the power of mexican drug lords


maybe it would even give the Mexican Government a chance to take control of their country.

dmahurin
01-30-2013, 10:24 AM
If I could come home from work and legally smoke a bowl instead of drink a couple beers to wind down that would be awesome. I would sleep better and late night tv would be funnier.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 10:34 AM
It was a general statement not meant about the weed. Dumbshit.

It was a joke, dumbshit.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 10:35 AM
Don't try to cover your tracks.

Which tracks?

http://rlv.zcache.com.au/horse_tracks_postcard-p239471381774913173baanr_400.jpg

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 10:35 AM
and reduce the power of mexican drug lords


maybe it would even give the Mexican Government a chance to take control of their country.

It would make a dent for sure but make no mistake, there's more than just weed fueling that empire...

Ace Gunner
01-30-2013, 10:59 AM
obviously, alcohol is far more dangerous drug to societies.

I would firmly support a prohibition ban :D

I would also support transferring those 60% of drug war prisoners in american prisons into medically staffed nut houses equipped to handle and rehabilitate them -- and for far less a burden to our tax system.

ThaVirus
01-30-2013, 11:01 AM
I drink too often to be ok with that trade..

But I do recognize the fact that alcohol is basically poison and much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much more dangerous (to you and everyone else) when abused.

I can't ****ing believe weed is still illegal after all these years.

Ace Gunner
01-30-2013, 11:08 AM
the WOD is the impetus of all gun legislation and impending WOT legislation.

Lumpy
01-30-2013, 11:28 AM
I would be for that if it could be purchased from stores like alcohol and there wasn't an outrageous tax on it. I guess I'm just all about convenience and not getting taxed to death.

Chocolate Hog
01-30-2013, 11:29 AM
I support Lumpy taking selfies

Saul Good
01-30-2013, 11:32 AM
Closest poll in history.

Lumpy
01-30-2013, 11:35 AM
I support Lumpy taking selfies

:spock:

With or without duck face?

LMAO

philfree
01-30-2013, 11:44 AM
Alcohol or pot? Why not both? Cannonball!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/AmxcmpR1GQA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rudy lost the toss
01-30-2013, 11:48 AM
Id support mushrooms over alcohol...just for personal preference. Never been a huge fan of weed.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 11:54 AM
Id support mushrooms over alcohol...just for personal preference. Never been a huge fan of weed.

Have you ever done mushrooms...on weed?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h310/hootster1984/weed-halfbaked4.jpg

Nzoner
01-30-2013, 11:58 AM
I would be for that if it could be purchased from stores like alcohol and there wasn't an outrageous tax on it. I guess I'm just all about convenience and not getting taxed to death.

I would love to go to my favorite hangout and sit around the bar and order a large coffee and a bowl of power plant.

unnecessary drama
01-30-2013, 11:59 AM
Sucks to be you!

one of my ex's was a huge pot head and she'd made me get high with her after a night of drinking and it would flip me the fuck out and hurt my lungs

no thanks

I hated it

unnecessary drama
01-30-2013, 12:00 PM
though the whole 'pot makes you lazy' is invalid if you ask me

I worked with the hardest working dude ever and he was a huge pothead...when he was high he'd make a lot of mistakes, though...but his work ethic was impeccable

Bowser
01-30-2013, 12:02 PM
So Saul, what other drugs have you become addicted to after you fell in love with the gateway drug that is marijuana, and why do you want the rest of us to become a crackhead like you?

Rudy lost the toss
01-30-2013, 12:03 PM
Have you ever done mushrooms...on weed?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h310/hootster1984/weed-halfbaked4.jpg

I smoke a bit on the trip down. Makes it less of a bummer.

shrooms combined with drinking is much better

Rudy lost the toss
01-30-2013, 12:04 PM
I would be for that if it could be purchased from stores like alcohol and there wasn't an outrageous tax on it. I guess I'm just all about convenience and not getting taxed to death.

AMERICA!

Nzoner
01-30-2013, 12:05 PM
though the whole 'pot makes you lazy' is invalid if you ask me

I worked with the hardest working dude ever and he was a huge pothead...when he was high he'd make a lot of mistakes, though...but his work ethic was impeccable

In my line of work I deal with mostly business owners and over the years after gaining a relationship/trust with them it's amazing how many of them smoke weed and for the most part they're all quite successful business owners with a great work work ethic and major creativity/ideas.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 12:15 PM
one of my ex's was a huge pot head and she'd made me get high with her after a night of drinking and it would flip me the fuck out and hurt my lungs

no thanks

I hated it

Well duh. STOP DRINKING. :D

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 12:16 PM
though the whole 'pot makes you lazy' is invalid if you ask me

I worked with the hardest working dude ever and he was a huge pothead...when he was high he'd make a lot of mistakes, though...but his work ethic was impeccable

I work with some high profile individuals in companies with household names.

The idea that potheads are all burned-out losers is fallacious to say the least.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 12:16 PM
I smoke a bit on the trip down. Makes it less of a bummer.

shrooms combined with drinking is much better

Ewww, yuck.

Don't combine anything with drinking. Booze ruins it.

|Zach|
01-30-2013, 12:18 PM
Not interested in making drinking illegal but the number of people who can't control it and the extent to which it effects their lives while that process gets glorified is always shocking.

DC.chief
01-30-2013, 12:19 PM
Would you want the bus driver taking your kids to school to be stoned?

Nuff said

You don't think that happens anyways regardless of the law?

Pablo
01-30-2013, 12:48 PM
I like my booze on the weekends and rarely smoke , but weed is far less harmful to society in general IMO.

BWillie
01-30-2013, 01:06 PM
48% said yes...WTF...No alcohol during tailgating and social events? Come on now

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 01:12 PM
48% said yes...WTF...No alcohol during tailgating and social events? Come on now

Dude, why would you need alcohol at tailgates when you could legally smoke weed?

No fights with Raider fans and all the food tastes that much better.

BWillie
01-30-2013, 01:34 PM
Dude, why would you need alcohol at tailgates when you could legally smoke weed?

No fights with Raider fans and all the food tastes that much better.

Because weed is not fun, AT ALL IMO. Truth be told, I do agree it's less dangerous than alcohol. But it is like the least fun drug ever. Makes me just want to sit around, do nothing, and stare at something.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 01:36 PM
Because weed is not fun, AT ALL IMO. Truth be told, I do agree it's less dangerous than alcohol. But it is like the least fun drug ever. Makes me just want to sit around, do nothing, and stare at something.

Dude, there is something seriously wrong with you.

Lumpy
01-30-2013, 01:37 PM
Dude, there is something seriously wrong with you.

Yeah. He forgot to list munchies.

Molitoth
01-30-2013, 01:38 PM
Weed takes a few hits to get a head change, and typically a joint costs about $5 that you can share with a group of people.

It takes about 6 beers to get me buzzed, and then I'm bloated and I wake up with a headache the next day. 6 beers at a restaurant or bar is about $25+.

DaFace
01-30-2013, 01:39 PM
Oohh...that's a tough one. I'd say yes simply because I'm 100% sure that it's the less harmful of the two drugs in terms of impact on personal health and societal health both.

However, it's really not realistic to think that alcohol will ever be illegal in this country again. There's way too much money tied up in it to think you could actually shut it down. Not to mention the fact that prohibition of either of them is useless.

Nzoner
01-30-2013, 01:40 PM
Yeah. He forgot to list munchies.

CHEETOS!!!! :)

Lumpy
01-30-2013, 01:41 PM
CHEETOS!!!! :)

FUNYUNS!!

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 01:42 PM
Weed takes a few hits to get a head change, and typically a joint costs about $5 that you can share with a group of people.

It takes about 6 beers to get me buzzed, and then I'm bloated and I wake up with a headache the next day. 6 beers at a restaurant or bar is about $25+.

If you're getting the RIGHT weed, it only takes ONE hit to get a head change. ;)

A person that only smokes by themselves, on occasion, smoking the good stuff, could literally make $50 worth last WEEKS.

Can't do that with booze. Nor can you catch a mind altering booze buzz without ruining the day after.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 01:43 PM
FUNYUNS!!

Original flavor CHEX MIX.

http://bargainbriana.com/wp-content/uploads/chex-mix.jpg

Nzoner
01-30-2013, 01:48 PM
If you're getting the RIGHT weed, it only takes ONE hit to get a head change. ;)


Power Plant :)

Fish
01-30-2013, 01:51 PM
Because weed is not fun, AT ALL IMO. Truth be told, I do agree it's less dangerous than alcohol. But it is like the least fun drug ever. Makes me just want to sit around, do nothing, and stare at something.

Yeah. And you know what else sucks? Tits and ass. Boring.....

Also, I've always found BBQ to be bland and nasty.

Chief Roundup
01-30-2013, 01:51 PM
FUNYUNS!!

Velvetta, Rotel with Italian Sausage and of course some Tostitos. Oh Yeah!

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 01:51 PM
Yeah. And you know what else sucks? Tits and ass. Boring.....

Also, I've always found BBQ to be bland and nasty.

COMMUNIST!!!

DaneMcCloud
01-30-2013, 01:52 PM
No. Plus, in Cali, all you need is a prescription, which couldn't be any easier obtain.

It won't be long before it's legal throughout the U.S.

It just doesn't make sense for marijuana to be illegal in 2013.

DaFace
01-30-2013, 01:54 PM
No. Plus, in Cali, all you need is a prescription, which couldn't be any easier obtain.

It won't be long before it's legal throughout the U.S. It just doesn't make sense to make it illegal in 2013.

Yeah, I'm pretty confident it's only a matter of time at this point. Colorado and Washington will prove that it's no big deal over the next few years, and then things will move pretty quickly for the rest of the country. I'd be surprised if more than a handful of states still have it illegal a decade from now.

-King-
01-30-2013, 01:54 PM
Yes.

I am biased because I don't drink much but I do smoke. You can control what you do when you're high, but not when you're drunk. It's not even a comparison which one is more dangerous.

Molitoth
01-30-2013, 01:56 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty confident it's only a matter of time at this point. Colorado and Washington will prove that it's no big deal over the next few years, and then things will move pretty quickly for the rest of the country. I'd be surprised if more than a handful of states still have it illegal a decade from now.

The last states to legalize will be Kansas and Missouri, just you watch.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 01:56 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty confident it's only a matter of time at this point. Colorado and Washington will prove that it's no big deal over the next few years, and then things will move pretty quickly for the rest of the country. I'd be surprised if more than a handful of states still have it illegal a decade from now.

That's the one good thing about living in Iowa, we'll be towards the front of the line.

-King-
01-30-2013, 01:57 PM
Because weed is not fun, AT ALL IMO. Truth be told, I do agree it's less dangerous than alcohol. But it is like the least fun drug ever. Makes me just want to sit around, do nothing, and stare at something.

Have you ever jerked off while high? No lie, it will change your life.

DaFace
01-30-2013, 01:57 PM
The last states to legalize will be Kansas and Missouri, just you watch.

Wouldn't surprise me - especially Kansas.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 01:58 PM
Yes.

I am biased because I don't drink much but I do smoke. You can control what you do when you're high, but not when you're drunk. It's not even a comparison which one is more dangerous.

You certainly CAN control what you do when you're drinking but if you're capable, I would argue you're NOT DRUNK. ;)

The point of gratification with drink is just slightly past the point of no return. No thanks, do not enjoy.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 01:59 PM
Have you ever jerked off while high? No lie, it will change your life.

OMFG

TMI

TMI

-King-
01-30-2013, 02:03 PM
You certainly CAN control what you do when you're drinking but if you're capable, I would argue you're NOT DRUNK. ;)

The point of gratification with drink is just slightly past the point of no return. No thanks, do not enjoy.

I've only been drunk once in my life. I just don't enjoy the feeling of not knowing what you did the previous day. I don't understand how people like that.

Chief Roundup
01-30-2013, 02:09 PM
Have you ever jerked off while high? No lie, it will change your life.

Uh how about just having the real thing instead of your hand.

DaneMcCloud
01-30-2013, 02:11 PM
I work with some high profile individuals in companies with household names.

The idea that potheads are all burned-out losers is fallacious to say the least.

Many of the most successful people I know smoke every single day. Some guys smoke when they work because they say is keeps them "focused", other do it to chill the fuck out after a long day.

It's pure fallacy that it makes you a complete couch potato that doesn't give a shit about life.

DaFace
01-30-2013, 02:16 PM
Many of the most successful people I know smoke every single day. Some guys smoke when they work because they say is keeps them "focused", other do it to chill the **** out after a long day.

It's pure fallacy that it makes you a complete couch potato that doesn't give a shit about life.

I think most of the perception stems from the fact that it IS illegal. Since that's the case, people who are trying to get ahead in life keep it covert, while those who are more of the "burn out" types don't care and, thus, are more visible.

As it becomes more commonly accepted, I think the perception will slowly change.

Strongside
01-30-2013, 02:23 PM
Many of the most successful people I know smoke every single day. Some guys smoke when they work because they say is keeps them "focused", other do it to chill the **** out after a long day.

It's pure fallacy that it makes you a complete couch potato that doesn't give a shit about life.

Basically half my family are functioning stoners. It's never been my thing, but I don't demonize it. I'm for legalization 100%. Take money from the dealers and cartels and help out our national debt...it only makes sense.

So many people hate this 'drug' without ever having tried it or done any actual research on it. Sure, people can abuse it...just like anything. Obesity is our country's biggest issue right now, but we're not banning cholesterol.

There is a reason that any pot dealer you encounter doesn't want this thing legalized. These guys are illegally making money hand over fist off of the shit. People are dying in mass numbers every day in Mexico because of it. Legalize it, tax it, and treat it with the same laws as alcohol.

It also bothers me when people pull the 'drugs destroy families' card when it comes to pot. The only way pot destroys your family is if the individual(s) using it don't have their priorities straight. They, like I said before, abuse it...lose motivation and become content. My dad has smoked grass for as long as I can remember. I knew from an early age that it was illegal, but I never understood why. He didn't abuse it, he didn't become mean when he was on it (like he did when he drank) and he wasn't hurting anyone. My mom doesn't smoke, but they got along fine and still do. You could easily say that he was setting a bad example for his kids, but I don't smoke today either...and if that did pop into your head, do you drink in front of your kids? Because it's the same damn thing.

The bottom line is that if you drink, don't hate on pot. It's virtually the same concept. One directly kills people in mass numbers though, and it ain't the trees.

bevischief
01-30-2013, 02:27 PM
Make it legal and tax it. There is so many uses for it, it is not funny. Between the tax benefit and the releasing of the people in prison for it would free up a lot money. Just apply the same laws as cigarettes for smoking it in public and apply

Strongside
01-30-2013, 02:30 PM
Make it legal and tax it. There is so many uses for it, it is not funny. Between the tax benefit and the releasing of the people in prison for it would free up a lot money. Just apply the same laws as cigarettes for smoking it in public and apply

The prison release thing is a whole different animal. You can't just release guys that went in 10 years ago on a pot bust and have since become institutionalized criminals. It's sad, but a large portion of those who go through the penal system come out far worse than when they went in. It dehumanizes people, puts you into a routine, and, in some cases, turns people into killers.

BigMeatballDave
01-30-2013, 02:44 PM
Yeah. And you know what else sucks? Tits and ass. Boring.....

Also, I've always found BBQ to be bland and nasty.

LMAO

bevischief
01-30-2013, 02:50 PM
The prison release thing is a whole different animal. You can't just release guys that went in 10 years ago on a pot bust and have since become institutionalized criminals. It's sad, but a large portion of those who go through the penal system come out far worse than when they went in. It dehumanizes people, puts you into a routine, and, in some cases, turns people into killers.

That is up to the parole broad to make that decision. My family has been in law enforcement for about the last 40 years. With over 27 years in the Bureau of prisons. I have had a personal tour of the federal prison in Leavenworth, KS by my dad. I know all about institutionalized inmates.

DC.chief
01-30-2013, 03:02 PM
Uh how about just having the real thing instead of your hand.

Or have the real thing while high.. Its the greatest thing. Jerking it high is great as well.

I'd like to add that the stoner stereotype is kinda bullshit. Of course there are plenty turds that fit that build though. I personally smoke everyday. Sometimes before I go in to work in the morning. And believe it or not, I have my shit together. I have several friends that smoke as much or maybe even more than me that are very successful as well.

ThaVirus
01-30-2013, 03:05 PM
I've only been drunk once in my life. I just don't enjoy the feeling of not knowing what you did the previous day. I don't understand how people like that.

Dude, you just have to know when to quit. I can go out, sip on 4 or 5 beers, FEEL AMAZING, then tell you damn near exactly what I did the night before.

Alcohol really is a great social lubricant. It's the idiots that don't know when to stop that ruin it for everyone.

Chief Roundup
01-30-2013, 03:11 PM
Or have the real thing while high.
Duh wasn't that implied?

oldman
01-30-2013, 03:34 PM
Having survived the '60s and early '70s and having a pretty good life, I support legalizing pot. Like someone said earlier, legalize it, regulate it's quality, and tax it. It won't drive the cartels completely out of business, but it'll put a dent in their net worth. As for making liquor illegal, nope. I think we've tried that once before and it didn't work, it just spawned the early cartels, aka Organized Crime.
With any mind/mood altering substance, you have to know your limits. It doesn't matter if it's grass, beer, or Zoloft.

Dayze
01-30-2013, 03:36 PM
as a youth, we used to spend about $5 on a 12 pack of Nat light; smoke up; and watch American Gladiators, followed by Baywatch Nights.

good times.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 03:38 PM
Or have the real thing while high.. Its the greatest thing. Jerking it high is great as well.

I'd like to add that the stoner stereotype is kinda bullshit. Of course there are plenty turds that fit that build though. I personally smoke everyday. Sometimes before I go in to work in the morning. And believe it or not, I have my shit together. I have several friends that smoke as much or maybe even more than me that are very successful as well.

I tend to look at it this way:

Pot smokers aren't losers but I know a lot of losers that smoke pot.

People that don't have their shit straight do all kinds of stupid things and a great many of them haven't ever smoked pot. Pot didn't cause them to be wastoids, they were that way to being with.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 03:39 PM
Dude, you just have to know when to quit. I can go out, sip on 4 or 5 beers, FEEL AMAZING, then tell you damn near exactly what I did the night before.

Alcohol really is a great social lubricant. It's the idiots that don't know when to stop that ruin it for everyone.

Sometimes I like to completely alter my perception. Can't do that on 4 or 5 beers and definitely can't do that and feel fine the next morning...

Strongside
01-30-2013, 03:40 PM
Sometimes I like to completely alter my perception. Can't do that on 4 or 5 beers and definitely can't do that and feel fine the next morning...

I know that feel bro...
http://forum.grasscity.com/photopost/data/501/shrooms3.jpg

bevischief
01-30-2013, 03:44 PM
Dude, you just have to know when to quit. I can go out, sip on 4 or 5 beers, FEEL AMAZING, then tell you damn near exactly what I did the night before.

Alcohol really is a great social lubricant. It's the idiots that don't know when to stop that ruin it for everyone.

Yep.

-King-
01-30-2013, 03:51 PM
Uh how about just having the real thing instead of your hand.

Nope. When you're high and having sex you tend to think too much instead of just enjoying it. Masturbating is just a simple process.

ThaVirus
01-30-2013, 03:52 PM
Sometimes I like to completely alter my perception. Can't do that on 4 or 5 beers and definitely can't do that and feel fine the next morning...

Yeah, I get that urge VERY infrequently. I like to be in control, or at least feel like it; and when I get to the point where I know I'm twisted, it loses its appeal to me. Not to mention the bullshit ass hangover the next day. The headache and lethargic feeling is enough to make me cap myself at 5 or 6 drinks.

Also, I'm a pretty mellow guy (surprisingly even more mellow when drunk), but I can't be responsible for my actions after I've reached a certain point. When I've had too many I'll start saying everything that comes to my mind and dealing with the fallout (especially with women) the next day just isn't worth it..

Strongside
01-30-2013, 03:53 PM
Nope. When you're high and having sex you tend to think too much instead of just enjoying it. Masturbating is just a simple process.

I had sex on X once in college. It was mindblowing.

-King-
01-30-2013, 03:56 PM
Dude, you just have to know when to quit. I can go out, sip on 4 or 5 beers, FEEL AMAZING, then tell you damn near exactly what I did the night before.

Alcohol really is a great social lubricant. It's the idiots that don't know when to stop that ruin it for everyone.

I know. I drink socially on occasion. Last time I drank alcohol was new years, and before that... I honestly couldn't tell you.

Just my preference. I'd rather chill with friends with some weed than alcohol.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 04:04 PM
Yeah, I get that urge VERY infrequently. I like to be in control, or at least feel like it;

See, that's the rub for me.

With alcohol, completely altering perception and being "out of control" are inseparable. The amount of alcohol it takes for me to be "in another world" is also the amount of alcohol that has me dancing in public fountains, not remembering a thing I did, and feeling like shit the next morning.

With marijuana, being "out of control" isn't even part of the picture. I can completely step off into the 12th dimension and not have to worry about doing something stupid that I don't remember the next day. Even when I'm talking to Jesus, I'm still in complete control.

ThaVirus
01-30-2013, 04:13 PM
See, that's the rub for me.

With alcohol, completely altering perception and being "out of control" are inseparable. The amount of alcohol it takes for me to be "in another world" is also the amount of alcohol that has me dancing in public fountains, not remembering a thing I did, and feeling like shit the next morning.

With marijuana, being "out of control" isn't even part of the picture. I can completely step off into the 12th dimension and not have to worry about doing something stupid that I don't remember the next day. Even when I'm talking to Jesus, I'm still in complete control.

Yeah, I feel what you're saying. That's one of the reasons I wish I was a smoker as opposed to a drinker.

The problem for me is that I get paranoid and legitimately think I'm going to die when I smoke. Everything slows down, I can hear/feel my heartbeat (which is usually beating wayyy faster than it should) and get really scared. That and the fact that I get probably the worst cotton mouth imaginable pretty much ruins the high for me.

Dayze
01-30-2013, 04:16 PM
I've even had the option to smooke over the years. Maybe have taken a puff or two once in a very very blue moon.

even if i was legal, I'm not even sure I'd smoke all that often, if at all.

hmmm. Interesting - I wonder if it would effect me.

houstonwhodat
01-30-2013, 04:51 PM
not to get completely DC/off-track, but the fact that weed is illegal is retarded.

and I haven't smoked in probably 20 years.


This is why I'm moving to Colorado ASAP.

houstonwhodat
01-30-2013, 04:52 PM
I got my dog high once and she peed on the couch.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-30-2013, 05:02 PM
I quit smoking pot a while back, and I consume more alcohol than I ever have. That said if only one can be legal, weed is the easy winner. Alcohol does so much more harm than good, and weed doesn't do any real harm at all besides robbing some of it's users of their motivation and ambition.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-30-2013, 05:02 PM
This is why I'm moving to Colorado ASAP.

Seattle is better, and their law is better too for the common smoker. Money is better up there as well.

houstonwhodat
01-30-2013, 05:03 PM
Seattle is better, and their law is better too for the common smoker. Money is better up there as well.


OK either or.

I like the mountains though, seems like it is always raining in Seattle.

htismaqe
01-30-2013, 05:04 PM
OK either or.

I like the mountains though, seems like it is always raining in Seattle.

There's mountains in Seattle. And a lot less snow...

BWillie
01-31-2013, 12:45 AM
Yeah, I feel what you're saying. That's one of the reasons I wish I was a smoker as opposed to a drinker.

The problem for me is that I get paranoid and legitimately think I'm going to die when I smoke. Everything slows down, I can hear/feel my heartbeat (which is usually beating wayyy faster than it should) and get really scared. That and the fact that I get probably the worst cotton mouth imaginable pretty much ruins the high for me.

Yeah I get the same thing in addition to just sitting somewhere indefinitely just looking at shit. It just isnt fun for me at all. I don't drink often anymore, probably twice a month and its jus5 a more fun, free feeling. If you just have enough to get you buzzed thats all you really need. I only get hung over if I just go get plowed. Even if I have 7 or 8 I still fe3l perfectly fine the next day.

AussieChiefsFan
01-31-2013, 04:52 AM
Neither should be illegal IMO

BigMeatballDave
01-31-2013, 07:12 AM
Yeah I get the same thing in addition to just sitting somewhere indefinitely just looking at shit. It just isnt fun for me at all. I don't drink often anymore, probably twice a month and its jus5 a more fun, free feeling. If you just have enough to get you buzzed thats all you really need. I only get hung over if I just go get plowed. Even if I have 7 or 8 I still fe3l perfectly fine the next day.

It's not for everyone.

I remember this dude used throw up every time he got high. He tried to get used to it, but could not.

A few years later, he started smoking meth.

Go figure. :)

htismaqe
01-31-2013, 07:49 AM
It's not for everyone.

I remember this dude used throw up every time he got high. He tried to get used to it, but could not.

A few years later, he started smoking meth.

Go figure. :)

Definitely not for pussies. :p

I had a roommate who would get dizzy all the time.

So I made him listen to "Billy the Mountain" once - he puked all over our neighbor. ROFL

patteeu
01-31-2013, 08:22 AM
I'm curious about the motivation behind this poll. It seems like a strange question.

htismaqe
01-31-2013, 08:41 AM
I'm curious about the motivation behind this poll. It seems like a strange question.

He's a government informant.

Rausch
01-31-2013, 08:45 AM
even if i was legal, I'm not even sure I'd smoke all that often, if at all.

hmmm. Interesting - I wonder if it would effect me.

This.

Even once legal employers will frown upon either one being in your system...

Rausch
01-31-2013, 08:45 AM
He's a government informant.

That's SNArc...

htismaqe
01-31-2013, 08:47 AM
This.

Even once legal employers will frown upon either one being in your system...

Depends on the employer and your position.

The more menial the job and the lower you are on the totem pole, the more it matters.

Rausch
01-31-2013, 08:49 AM
Depends on the employer and your position.

The more menial the job and the lower you are on the totem pole, the more it matters.

Airline Pilots are menial jobs?...

htismaqe
01-31-2013, 08:53 AM
Airline Pilots are menial jobs?...

You found a solid exception.

Rausch
01-31-2013, 08:54 AM
You found a solid exception.

Military?

Law enforcement?

FBI?

CIA?...

Saul Good
01-31-2013, 08:54 AM
I'm curious about the motivation behind this poll. It seems like a strange question.

Someone made a post in another thread about legalizing weed because it's safer than alcohol, so I thought it would be interesting to see where people stood if it were an either/or situation. Frankly, I'm stunned that this many people sided with weed.

htismaqe
01-31-2013, 08:57 AM
Military?

Law enforcement?

FBI?

CIA?...

I know quite a few guys in law enforcement that aren't regularly drug tested.

The other 3 are government jobs, I'm talking about common folk.

EDIT: And I guarantee you that as you advance in the ranks of the CIA or FBI, the "tolerance" goes WAY up.

Rausch
01-31-2013, 09:00 AM
EDIT: And I guarantee you that as you advance in the ranks of the CIA or FBI, the "tolerance" goes WAY up.

The more power you gain the less you're subjected to anything.

Not in all cases, but most, the more physical labor you do the less you get paid...

htismaqe
01-31-2013, 09:02 AM
The more power you gain the less you're subjected to anything.

That was my point.

The reality is, unless your job involves your own safety (like in a manufacturing setting where they have OSHA regulations) or someone else's (your example of an air traffic controller), you're not getting drug tested unless you do something REALLY stupid.

A lot of companies just don't mess with it anymore, except for perhaps at the date of initial hire.