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DenverChief
02-04-2013, 01:37 AM
Just thought it would be interesting to see who has us drafting who in one spot

Bleacher report - Luke Joeckel
USA Today - Luke Joeckel
Chicagonow.com -Luke Joeckel
Walter football - Geno Smith
CBS Sports - Geno Smith
NFL.com - Luke Joeckel
FFtoolbox.com (5 mocks) Geno X3, Joeckel and Star Loutulelei
draftek.com -Luke Joeckel
footballfuture.com - Geno Smith
draftsite.com - Geno Smith
nflfutures.com - Geno Smith
sportingnews.com - Luke Joeckel
SI.com - Luke Joeckel
SBnation.com - Geno Smith


Interesting split - seems the "big boys" in the media think Luke Joeckel and the smaller fish think Geno. With the exception of CBS why do you think that is?

Mr_Tomahawk
02-04-2013, 06:37 AM
Because the big-shots don't know shit...

Dave Lane
02-04-2013, 07:50 AM
Because big shots think they know more than what the fans who care more about their teams do.

Dayze
02-04-2013, 08:36 AM
if anything, the Super Bowl once again proved how important the QB position is. Both teams demonstrated this.

you get a QB you think has the skillset you want, and you tailor the offensive philosophy to those strengths. Aside from only a few straight up Pocket Passers, the pocket passer trait is on life support.

The only QBs I consider straight up Pocket Passers (in that, they have no shot outside of the pocket / needing to run.

P. Manning
E. Manning
Brady

CaptainMorgan
02-04-2013, 12:55 PM
if anything, the Super Bowl once again proved how important the QB position is. Both teams demonstrated this.

you get a QB you think has the skillset you want, and you tailor the offensive philosophy to those strengths. Aside from only a few straight up Pocket Passers, the pocket passer trait is on life support.

The only QBs I consider straight up Pocket Passers (in that, they have no shot outside of the pocket / needing to run.

P. Manning
E. Manning
Brady

Uh...Flacco, Schaub, Ryan, Palmer can be added to that list. While a bit more mobile than Peyton and Brady, I'd also list Cutler, Brees, Fitzpatrick, Bradford and Stafford as pretty much pure pocket passers...

BossChief
02-04-2013, 01:38 PM
They can't sign Albert soon enough.

wazu
02-04-2013, 10:51 PM
They can't sign Albert soon enough.

I don't think they have any plans to even try to re-sign Albert.

htismaqe
02-05-2013, 09:06 AM
I don't think they have any plans to even try to re-sign Albert.

They've been talking to his agent for a week and a half.

Dayze
02-05-2013, 10:25 AM
Uh...Flacco, Schaub, Ryan, Palmer can be added to that list. While a bit more mobile than Peyton and Brady, I'd also list Cutler, Brees, Fitzpatrick, Bradford and Stafford as pretty much pure pocket passers...

i was mentioning them from the stand point of they have zero shot and scrambling from the pocke tot pick up yards. if they do they're lucky.

those other guys have enough wheels to make a few yards if they need to.

CaptainMorgan
02-05-2013, 12:57 PM
i was mentioning them from the stand point of they have zero shot and scrambling from the pocke tot pick up yards. if they do they're lucky.

those other guys have enough wheels to make a few yards if they need to.

I hear ya, and I agree that having at least some decent mobility puts more pressure on the D and makes for a more dynamic player (that said I'd take an elite "pocket passer" over a mediocre passer with great wheels any day of the week).

However, looking simply at career ypc stats, there is really very little difference between E. Manning (1.9), P. Manning (2.0), Brady (1.9), Brees (1.9), Schaub (1.8), Palmer (1.7), Flacco (2.1), Rivers (1.5) and Ryan (2.5).

ncCHIEFfan
02-05-2013, 01:06 PM
They can't sign Albert soon enough.

They may hold out on "officially" singing Albert until after the draft...helps with the draft poker-face:hmmm:

ncCHIEFfan
02-05-2013, 01:07 PM
I don't think they have any plans to even try to re-sign Albert.

Got a reason for thinking this? :huh:

Dayze
02-05-2013, 03:14 PM
I hear ya, and I agree that having at least some decent mobility puts more pressure on the D and makes for a more dynamic player (that said I'd take an elite "pocket passer" over a mediocre passer with great wheels any day of the week).

However, looking simply at career ypc stats, there is really very little difference between E. Manning (1.9), P. Manning (2.0), Brady (1.9), Brees (1.9), Schaub (1.8), Palmer (1.7), Flacco (2.1), Rivers (1.5) and Ryan (2.5).

hmm . interesting. I didn't realize that.
I would've thought Mannings would have the least.

MahiMike
03-21-2013, 08:51 PM
Geno in the 2nd?

http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1.asp

buddha
03-22-2013, 02:33 AM
We have so much more draft leverage in potential trades if Albert is resigned before the draft.

Der Flöprer
03-23-2013, 06:40 AM
Geno in the 2nd?

http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1.asp

ROFL Thanks for that interesting piece on last year's draft.