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RunKC
02-06-2013, 04:44 PM
Doesn't matter which round really, but there seem to be quite a few good 3-4 DE prospects out there. Some of note:

Datone Jones UCLA
Sylvester Williams UNC-local Missouri kid too
Kawann Short Purdue
Brandon Williams Missouri State
Shariff Floyd Florida
William Gholston Michigan State

Any DE prospects you would like us to take a look at from round 2 on?

Oh and anyone who brings up an LSU DL or the Utah DT will be negged by me. :D

Sorter
02-06-2013, 04:49 PM
Sheldon Richardson.

And more Sheldon Richardson.

O.city
02-06-2013, 04:49 PM
Richardson from MU, but he won't be around near that long. I doubt Floyd will either.


The DT from Joplin had a good SR bowl, might be a good late rounder. I like Gholston alot, same with Floyd.


Williams would be a great get.

DaKCMan AP
02-06-2013, 04:57 PM
Sharrif Floyd

O.city
02-06-2013, 04:58 PM
Don't think there is anyway Floyd is available in the 2nd, but if he is, yeah.

I'm a little torn on that pick. There should be great CB's there and great DT prospects.

RunKC
02-06-2013, 05:20 PM
I too love Sheldon Richardson, though I severely doubt he'll make it out of the top 15, maybe not even out of the top 10.

I'm a really big fan of William Gholston. 6'7" 280 lbs who is really strong with an attitude. Could probably get him with our 3rd round pick. He has the body to put on weight too. Long long arms as well.

O.city
02-06-2013, 06:00 PM
I too love Sheldon Richardson, though I severely doubt he'll make it out of the top 15, maybe not even out of the top 10.

I'm a really big fan of William Gholston. 6'7" 280 lbs who is really strong with an attitude. Could probably get him with our 3rd round pick. He has the body to put on weight too. Long long arms as well.

I'm concerned that he didn't really improve over the last 2 years, and he never really rushed the passer very well.

RUSH
02-06-2013, 06:37 PM
Devin Taylor.

Though he's top heavy and has chicken legs so that scares me a little bit.

But if he can add some strength and weight (15-20 lbs) then I think he can be a steal.

Hoover
02-06-2013, 07:03 PM
I'm fine with anyone as long as their not from LSU.

RunKC
02-06-2013, 07:45 PM
I'm concerned that he didn't really improve over the last 2 years, and he never really rushed the passer very well.

Yeah he did have a few problems. I wouldn't be shocked to see us take a DE with our 2nd round pick because the value for them goes way down after the 2nd round where CB is extremely deep.

RunKC
02-06-2013, 08:05 PM
But to be honest I want us to bring in a FA DE to start like Chris Canty. Rotate guys this year why we build the roster up.

Saccopoo
02-06-2013, 11:07 PM
Joe Kruger, Utah; 6'7", 280 lbs.

Brother of current Ravens DE/LB Paul Kruger. Led the Utes in sacks in 2012.

DaKCMan AP
02-07-2013, 05:09 AM
Outside of the top guys, a lot of the 3-4 DE's this year are 'meh' for me. If we don't take Floyd, Richardson, Hankins, or Hunt at the top of 2 (most of them I expect to be gone in rd 1) then I'm not excited over a lot of the later round guys.

For the later rounds I like a lot of the corners, ILBs, and safeties much more.

RUSH
02-07-2013, 06:44 AM
Outside of the top guys, a lot of the 3-4 DE's this year are 'meh' for me. If we don't take Floyd, Richardson, Hankins, or Hunt at the top of 2 (most of them I expect to be gone in rd 1) then I'm not excited over a lot of the later round guys.

For the later rounds I like a lot of the corners, ILBs, and safeties much more.

Agreed. Very weak 3-4 DE class aside from the top few who will be gone in the 1st.

I do personally believe DE is the second greatest need on this team due to Dorsey and Jackson most likely being gone, but you can't force it.

CB and S are both stacked so hopefully the defensive picks are made on the secondary.

Frosty
02-07-2013, 08:24 AM
Datone Jones. A 3-4 DE that can actually rush the passer.

Rudy lost the toss
02-07-2013, 10:00 PM
I think Sam Montgomery could do fine in the 3-4

Nightfyre
02-08-2013, 07:56 AM
Sam Montgomery is a rush-backer in the 3-4 at the next level. Not a DE.

Sorter
02-08-2013, 08:05 AM
Sam Montgomery is a rush-backer in the 3-4 at the next level. Not a DE.
QFT

DaKCMan AP
02-08-2013, 08:06 AM
Sam Montgomery is a rush-backer in the 3-4 at the next level. Not a DE.

QFT

+2

Sorter
02-08-2013, 08:09 AM
I saw a mock this week that had Sheldon Richardson falling to 22. If that happens, phones better be ringing from KC.

DaKCMan AP
02-08-2013, 08:15 AM
I saw a mock this week that had Sheldon Richardson falling to 22. If that happens, phones better be ringing from KC.

Sharrif Floyd is more consistent and has a higher motor, IMO.

Rudy lost the toss
02-08-2013, 08:15 AM
+2

Whatever. Im tired of seeing non-athletic pieces of shit at the 3-4 DE. Why keep plugging in players who are mid-round tweener slugs who shouldn't have any business in the NFL? Why keep passing over legitimate 4-3 DE talent? I think we'll see longer, slightly leaner, more athletic DEs in 3-4 eventually. He could easily play at 280 and be fine. I think he's already close to 265-270

Yall can take your prototypes and conventions and shove them up your ass

DaKCMan AP
02-08-2013, 08:16 AM
Whatever. Im tired of seeing non-athletic pieces of shit at the 3-4 DE. Why keep plugging in players who are mid-round slug tweeners who have no true position? Why keep passing over legitimate 4-3 talent? I think we'll see longer, slightly leaner, more athletic DEs in 3-4 eventually. He could easily play at 280 and be fine.

Yall can take your prototypes and shove them up your ass

:stupid:

LMAO

Good luck stopping the run in a 3-4 base with your 260lb DE.

Sorter
02-08-2013, 08:19 AM
Sharrif Floyd is more consistent and has a higher motor, IMO.

I'm thinking he goes ahead of Sheldon. No way we're getting Floyd IMO. If either fall that far though (I'm also starting to think Rhodes from FSU goes in the first) I'm probably trading up.

Rudy lost the toss
02-08-2013, 08:21 AM
:stupid:

LMAO

Good luck stopping the run in a 3-4 base with your 260lb DE.

The idea would be to get him at 280. Like I said. If he weighs in at 260 Id pass. I think he'll come in closer to 270

Stopping the run is just as hard with 305 pound slugs who suck ass

DaKCMan AP
02-08-2013, 08:24 AM
I'm thinking he goes ahead of Sheldon. No way we're getting Floyd IMO. If either fall that far though (I'm also starting to think Rhodes from FSU goes in the first) I'm probably trading up.

My dream 2nd round scenario would be Xavier Rhodes, Sharrif Floyd, Matt Elam, Kenny Vaccaro, or Johnthan Banks.

I think all are gone before rd 2.

Nightfyre
02-08-2013, 08:27 AM
I think the top of the second will be chock full of legitimate first round talents no matter who goes in the first. This draft is just deep like that.

For example, how many safeties are going in the first? Corners? There will be first round talents at each position available in the second.

Sorter
02-08-2013, 08:28 AM
My dream 2nd round scenario would be Xavier Rhodes, Sharrif Floyd, Matt Elam, Kenny Vaccaro, or Johnthan Banks.

I think all are gone before rd 2.

I'm starting to think this as well. I guess Tavon would be a good consy prize if he's still there. If not, I'm going to be really pissed if the one year we switch to a 1-gap and have a competent GM that we miss out on all the legit DE prospects.

Sorter
02-08-2013, 08:29 AM
I think the top of the second will be chock full of legitimate first round talents no matter who goes in the first. This draft is just deep like that.

For example, how many safeties are going in the first? Corners? There will be first round talents at each position available in the second.

I hope so. It is starting to seem to me that there's going to be a lot more 3 techs, CBs, S, and WRs taken in the 1st round than I'd originally anticipated. Not happy about that one bit.

DaKCMan AP
02-08-2013, 08:36 AM
I hope so. It is starting to seem to me that there's going to be a lot more 3 techs, CBs, S, and WRs taken in the 1st round than I'd originally anticipated. Not happy about that one bit.

I'm not worried about WR. There will be WR talent available in rd 2.

Keenan Allen, Terrance Williams, Cordarrelle Patterson, Justin Hunter, Tavon Austin, DeAndre Hopkins, Da'Rick Rogers, Cobi Hamilton, Robert Woods aren't all going in rd 1 (not saying I'd take all of them at the top of rd 2).

Sorter
02-08-2013, 08:39 AM
I'm starting to think there's a legit chance Patterson, Allen, Austin all go in the 1st.

DaKCMan AP
02-08-2013, 08:42 AM
I'm starting to think there's a legit chance Patterson, Allen, Austin all go in the 1st.

Patterson & Allen, yes. Not sure about Austin.

Sorter
02-08-2013, 08:45 AM
Patterson & Allen, yes. Not sure about Austin.

I could see NE snagging him if they don't re-sign Welker, I could potentially see ATL, 49ers, Seahawks, Packers, even the Donks taking a hard look at him late as all teams are either likely losing a receiver to FA or don't have a competent #3. I threw the Donks in bc I have no idea if Stokely is playing next year or not.

Rudy lost the toss
02-08-2013, 10:47 AM
Sharrif Floyd is more consistent and has a higher motor, IMO.

Floyd's arm length might be an issue. Same with Jones. Do not want.

Rudy lost the toss
02-08-2013, 10:55 AM
Malliciah Goodman out of Clemson is intriguing