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Pestilence
02-08-2013, 11:55 AM
I'm bored.....and I'll probably catch shit for this....but whatever.

Here is the scenario:

You are the Chiefs GM. You are taking ANY OTHER position but QB with the #1 overall pick because you know, without a shadow of a doubt, that you can trade back up into the 1st round....say 15-20 range for Geno Smith. Not only can you trade up to get him....but it's really only going to cost you your high 2nd round pick and a swap of picks in the 4th.

So....who do you take with the #1 pick?

Canofbier
02-08-2013, 12:06 PM
Silly scenario, but I ended up choosing Milliner, even though he's probably not worth taking #1 overall. Lotulelei would probably be the better pick, but I'm goddamned sick of taking defensive line early in the draft. Plus, our lackluster CB play has been a big problem since Carr left.

Pestilence
02-08-2013, 12:16 PM
Oh....and don't rape me, SNR.

SNR
02-08-2013, 12:19 PM
In the interest of playing this game by its intended rules, I'd take Damontre Moore

SNR
02-08-2013, 12:20 PM
Oh....and don't rape me, SNR.

Hey, you're the one who gave me an out in the poll.

Pestilence
02-08-2013, 12:25 PM
Damnt....I forgot the Manti Te'o selection.

chiefscafan
02-08-2013, 12:45 PM
I don't think geno is lasting pass top 10 but saying he does I do this:

I take the de from Florida state Bjoern Werner
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Nightfyre
02-08-2013, 12:47 PM
How can you "know" that Geno Smith will last to 15-20?

Pestilence
02-08-2013, 01:32 PM
How can you "know" that Geno Smith will last to 15-20?

Because I'm hypothetical time traveler.

Fat Elvis
02-08-2013, 02:32 PM
I'd trade back a bit in the first round and pick up another pick in the second and a first next year.

Pestilence
02-08-2013, 02:36 PM
I'd trade back a bit in the first round and pick up another pick in the second and a first next year.

Get back to your hypothetical thread if you want to try that bullshit.

RunKC
02-08-2013, 03:02 PM
Dee Milliner but Sheldon Richardson would be very entertaining. I think he's easily going in the top 10.

NJChiefsFan
02-09-2013, 12:16 AM
Milliner hits the need, that or Moore since Milliner probably isn't BPA here, even with need factored in.

Sfeihc
02-09-2013, 05:49 AM
Simple one here, if the Chiefs resign Albert then Star is the choice if not then Uncle Luke would be the pick.

Saccopoo
02-09-2013, 09:18 AM
You take Geno and then take David Amerson with your second rounder. Same guy as Milliner and was the better player at CB in 2011. He gambled a bit more in 2012, but Amerson has all the tools to be elite.

Nightfyre
02-09-2013, 12:47 PM
There are no truly elite players in this draft. Sort of interesting. There isn't a Von Miller or a Suh or a Long yet everyone still wants us to magically trade down so we can take a second rate QB. Why can't the Chiefs have a QB?

Saccopoo
02-09-2013, 01:44 PM
There are no truly elite players in this draft. Sort of interesting. There isn't a Von Miller or a Suh or a Long yet everyone still wants us to magically trade down so we can take a second rate QB. Why can't the Chiefs have a QB?

I think this is a pretty darn good draft from a depth and talent perspective, and I think that there are some high level players.

IMO, Geno Smith is as good a prospect at the QB position as anybody that's come out the past ten years. His numbers/production/accuracy at the college level are absolutely ridiculous. He's prototype size, damn near perfect delivery, very good arm, experienced, etc. He's an easy #1 pick in the draft.

Think about the last draft when we took Dontari Poe at #11. There's two guys in this draft that are markedly better than him in Starlite Lotulelei and John Hankins. There's four cornerbacks in Milliner, Banks, Rhodes and Amerson who have incredibly high ceilings. A bunch of stud rush ends in Werner, Jones, Mingo, Montgomery, Moore, Jordan, Okafor, Ansah, etc. A couple of elite level guards in Warmack and Cooper. Some really nice ILB prospects in Ogletree, Minter, Te'o, Bostic, Johnson. A lot of really good looking receivers. The QB's are deep and experienced.

The only position that isn't really talented and deep is the offensive tackles.

The main problem is that you are coming off a class that featured the most hyped prospect in years in Luck and a lot of the rookie QB's did really well this past year.

I personally think it's a very good draft and the Chiefs should be able to get three immediate starters at the QB, CB and ILB positions.

Nightfyre
02-09-2013, 07:50 PM
I think you have a bunch of B+ prospects at every position. First round talents about 45 players deep or so I would estimate, but no infallible "can't miss" guys.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
02-09-2013, 08:21 PM
If the QBs have the possibility of rising after the combine(which most assume a given). Then there is the possibility of someone else other than QB rising. That some other team falls in love with. So trading down is the option for me, just not very far.

Count Zarth
02-09-2013, 08:31 PM
Geno doesn't make it past the Raiders. This is a silly post.

Old Dog
02-13-2013, 12:55 PM
If the league assigns me Geno at #15 and takes away my 2nd and moves my 4th down I'm taking Wilson at #1, so I don't know if I should have voted for "other" or "F U"

saphojunkie
02-13-2013, 02:31 PM
In the interest of playing this game by its intended rules, I'd take Damontre Moore

So you're the other one. Nice to know.

I realize we have Houston and Hali, but I just don't have a problem with having multiple pass rushers. If the Giants can essentially run 4 defensive ends on their front, why couldn't the Chiefs figure out how to have three pass rushers out of 4 linebacking spots in obvious passing downs?

saphojunkie
02-13-2013, 02:32 PM
Geno doesn't make it past the Raiders. This is a silly post.

In this world, the Raiders have traded for Alex Smith and extended Carson Palmer and signed Matt Moore to a three year deal.

Sorter
02-13-2013, 03:59 PM
So you're the other one. Nice to know.

I realize we have Houston and Hali, but I just don't have a problem with having multiple pass rushers. If the Giants can essentially run 4 defensive ends on their front, why couldn't the Chiefs figure out how to have three pass rushers out of 4 linebacking spots in obvious passing downs?

While I have advocated this in the past, the reasons the Giants have been so successful at it is that in pass rushing situations, both JPP and Tuck can play inside at either the 3 or 2 tech. JPP is best suited out on the edge but being able to have him, Kiwanuka, Osi, and Tuck all rush the passer is nasty.