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Chiefnj2
02-12-2013, 07:33 PM
Probably a duplicate, but worth discussing where it isn't buried in mounds of mega-thread BS.
http://secondroundstats.com/2013/02/01/smith-barkley-glennon-and-wilson-a-metrics-breakdown/

and
http://secondroundstats.com/2013/02/08/nassib-dysert-and-manuel-a-metrics-breakdown/

Pretty cool comparisons.

"Weak" armed Barkley has the best completion % of the big 4 on passes over 20 yards.

Geno Smith is horrible under center, has the worst 3rd down completion% of the big 4 and his passes average less than 5 yards in the air. On the plus side when he throws mid-range he has very good accuracy 6-20 yards.

Wilson is below "average" on all passes over 5 yards.

Nassib seems to have the most consistency looking at accuracy/depth.

htismaqe
02-12-2013, 07:40 PM
You forgot to mention that while Geno threw a high amount of screens, many of those attempts equal negative yardage, so they bring down his average considerably. He actually threw WAY LESS passes in the 1-5 range than any of the other QBs.

Barkley actually threw the most passes (in terms of percentage of attempts) less than 5 yards by quite a wide margin. And on top of that, his accuracy in the 1-5 range was WAY below average.

This actually has been discussed before and the bottom line was that it benefits Glennon most.

O.city
02-12-2013, 07:41 PM
Well, as has been discussed, I'd say some of Wilson's stems from the fact that he had poopy fart at WR this year, and Geno wasn't good from under center probably because he wasn't there much at all.

digger
02-12-2013, 08:23 PM
How about these stats?http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb171/digger12291970/qb.jpg

htismaqe
02-12-2013, 08:28 PM
All jokes aside, I did notice something interesting in that spreadsheet.

Mike Glennon got sacked THIRTY SIX times. He got sacked once every 15.67 attempts.

Tyler Wilson played behind absolute SHIT and got sacked HALF as much.

That's a huge red flag, IMO.

KCrockaholic
02-13-2013, 12:28 AM
All jokes aside, I did notice something interesting in that spreadsheet.

Mike Glennon got sacked THIRTY SIX times. He got sacked once every 15.67 attempts.

Tyler Wilson played behind absolute SHIT and got sacked HALF as much.

That's a huge red flag, IMO.

There's different ways to look at that. More 5 to 7 step drops/deeper passes will lead to more sacks taken. Wilson threw a ton of shallow crosses and they didn't use him on as many deep drop backs. I wouldn't look too much into the sack numbers. We all know Glennon is a statue, but it's not something to look too much into.

htismaqe
02-13-2013, 07:53 AM
There's different ways to look at that. More 5 to 7 step drops/deeper passes will lead to more sacks taken. Wilson threw a ton of shallow crosses and they didn't use him on as many deep drop backs. I wouldn't look too much into the sack numbers. We all know Glennon is a statue, but it's not something to look too much into.

Dude, he averaged like 3 sacks a game.

That's definitely something to look into.

Canofbier
02-14-2013, 11:40 AM
Dude, he averaged like 3 sacks a game.

That's definitely something to look into.

Quit talking like that!

http://sportscasm.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ShaunSmith1-300x199.jpg

You're getting someone excited.

Dayze
02-15-2013, 09:36 AM
1 sack every 15 attempts? JFC.
http://i.imgur.com/VIFvW.gif

Canofbier
02-15-2013, 09:57 AM
1 sack every 15 attempts? JFC.
http://i.imgur.com/VIFvW.gif

http://www.ngngsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/shaun-smith.jpg

bowener
02-15-2013, 12:16 PM
http://www.ngngsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/shaun-smith.jpg
LMAO

Hoover
02-15-2013, 12:55 PM
So we should draft Geno...

digger
02-25-2013, 09:26 PM
Check these numbers.