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Mr_Tomahawk
03-12-2013, 07:47 AM
, Chase Daniel has been very hot and league sources anticipate he will sign a deal worth in excess of $3 million a year, with Kansas City being very interested.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/21858975/freeagency-forecast-with-underwhelming-class-expect-more-trades

Rausch
03-12-2013, 07:49 AM
I'm as big a homer as anybody but....meh...

O.city
03-12-2013, 07:49 AM
Looks like we are throwing numbers at the QB spot. Can't get upset with that.

Mr_Tomahawk
03-12-2013, 07:49 AM
Another undersized "meh" arm...

Superturtle
03-12-2013, 07:50 AM
Chubbs to the rescue.

O.city
03-12-2013, 07:51 AM
He did learn behind Brees and looked good in the preseason. Meh, who knows.

Rausch
03-12-2013, 07:52 AM
Looks like we are throwing numbers at the QB spot. Can't get upset with that.

I will admit it's a huge upgrade over Stanzi...

patteeu
03-12-2013, 07:52 AM
He'd be better than any backup we've had in a long time.

Tribal Warfare
03-12-2013, 07:52 AM
Stanzi vs Daniel

a DEATH MATCH!!!!!!!!!!!

O.city
03-12-2013, 07:53 AM
MU fans will be easily spotted in this thread.

Frazod
03-12-2013, 07:53 AM
I'm as big a homer as anybody but....meh...

Clearly you're not as big a home as me, because I FUCKING LOVE THIS IDEA :rockon:

ChiefsOne
03-12-2013, 07:53 AM
He'd be better than any backup we've had in a long time.

He would have started last year if he would have been on the roster.

Rausch
03-12-2013, 07:54 AM
Clearly you're not as big a home as me, because I ****ING LOVE THIS IDEA :rockon:

He'd be the new 0dd T0dd by week 3...:evil:

Frazod
03-12-2013, 07:54 AM
Stanzi vs Daniel

a DEATH MATCH!!!!!!!!!!!

That would be a quick death for Stanzi.

O.city
03-12-2013, 07:54 AM
Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl
As @JasonLaCanfora points out, the Chiefs are very interested in QB Chase Daniel. 1 of 6 teams on his trail.

Frazod
03-12-2013, 07:54 AM
He'd be the new 0dd T0dd by week 3...:evil:

SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH :cuss:

Saul Good
03-12-2013, 07:54 AM
No way. This guy eats boogers. Get me Todd Reesing.

Superturtle
03-12-2013, 07:55 AM
That article also talks about the Vikings Buccaneers and Cardinals having interest in Cassel. ROFL

Brainiac
03-12-2013, 07:55 AM
I hadn't even considered Chase Daniel. I'm all for bringing him in, since it looks like the chances of the Chiefs drafting Geno Smith are vanishing.

At least we won't have the shit group of quarterbacks we had last year. My hope is that any competent quarterback will look great compared to what we've had to endure for the last 4 years, kind of like how Kyle Orton looked like Johnny Unitas compared to Matt Cassel.

Rausch
03-12-2013, 07:55 AM
SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH :cuss:

By that I mean cult status B/U QB...

King_Chief_Fan
03-12-2013, 07:55 AM
I will admit it's a huge upgrade over Stanzi...
and Quinn and Cassel

Rausch
03-12-2013, 07:57 AM
and Quinn and Cassel

Quinn is already gone and Ca$$hole being cut is inevitable...

tooge
03-12-2013, 08:00 AM
It would be a huge upgrade for our backup QB spot. He looked solid in preseason for NO, and I'm sure sitting behind DB for a few years didn't hurt. I'd have taken him over any of the three we had on the roster last year. I would think the Chiefs would have an inside track since he went to college around here no?

rageeumr
03-12-2013, 08:01 AM
Now this is a move I can get behind.

I posted this in another thread, but I've been secretly rooting for Brees to tweak something and miss a week or two since Daniel won the backup job in NO. He always plays really well in preseason and I want to see what the kid can do in the league.

I don't think he has the tangibles to be elite, but I think he can be a solid backup.

Lzen
03-12-2013, 08:01 AM
Meh.

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-12-2013, 08:01 AM
I only know a Chase Daniels

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-12-2013, 08:02 AM
MU fans will be easily spotted in this thread.

He'd be a solid backup option. He was good enough for Peyton and New Orleans in that role.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
03-12-2013, 08:02 AM
Brad Smith sounds more exciting.

Rausch
03-12-2013, 08:03 AM
It would be a huge upgrade for our backup QB spot. He looked solid in preseason for NO, and I'm sure sitting behind DB for a few years didn't hurt. I'd have taken him over any of the three we had on the roster last year. I would think the Chiefs would have an inside track since he went to college around here no?

Couldn't hurt.

Having a respectable b/u wouldn't hurt either...

Mr. Arrowhead
03-12-2013, 08:03 AM
Chubby Chase

Rausch
03-12-2013, 08:04 AM
Chubby Chase

Too fat./Omaha

RyFo18
03-12-2013, 08:05 AM
Would have rather gone after Shaun Hill last year...It's a new name to add to the mix. I sure as hell wish he had more than 8 regular season pass attempts to watch.

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:LOL:LMAO

Mr_Tomahawk
03-12-2013, 08:05 AM
noodle arm 3.0

Fat Elvis
03-12-2013, 08:05 AM
He'd be a solid backup option. He was good enough for Peyton and New Orleans in that role.

He kept getting cut and re-signed....

rageeumr
03-12-2013, 08:07 AM
He kept getting cut and re-signed....

He hasn't been cut since 2009.

kepp
03-12-2013, 08:08 AM
He kept getting cut and re-signed....

In his first year, yes. Then he eventually beat out another QB (forget who it was) for the backup job.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
03-12-2013, 08:08 AM
He an Sanchise could have booger wars. Bring back Brunell to NY!

Inmem58
03-12-2013, 08:08 AM
So, we won't draft a QB then?

OrtonsPiercedTaint
03-12-2013, 08:10 AM
IF you are an agent with a QB? Attach interest to KC. profit

ChiefMojo
03-12-2013, 08:11 AM
Even as a KU fan I can get behind Daniel. This FA class of QB is just as bad as the draft class. Pickings are slim and Daniel is quite a solid choice considering.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 08:11 AM
Fuck that.

DA_T_84
03-12-2013, 08:14 AM
He'd love to be picked.

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Pestilence
03-12-2013, 08:16 AM
Say goodbye to ANY QB being drafted this year or next.

jd1020
03-12-2013, 08:18 AM
Say goodbye to ANY QB being drafted this year or next.

This fucking franchise...

Frazod
03-12-2013, 08:20 AM
Daniel didn't a miss a beat taking over for Brees with NO's offense during the preseason games I've watched. This would be a massive upgrade over anything we had in years.

Rausch
03-12-2013, 08:22 AM
Say goodbye to ANY QB being drafted this year or next.

:spock:

Mr_Tomahawk
03-12-2013, 08:23 AM
This will be like reliving stanzimania all over again on this board....

Direckshun
03-12-2013, 08:23 AM
Yeah, if we bring on Chase Daniel, the dream of Geno is buried.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
03-12-2013, 08:25 AM
Daniels could take Alberts hunting for deers.

Frazod
03-12-2013, 08:26 AM
This will be like reliving stanzimania all over again on this board....

Well, except that Daniel doesn't FUCKING SUCK, sure.

duncan_idaho
03-12-2013, 08:26 AM
As a Mizzou fan...

Daniel is an interesting option, but I'm not expecting the guy to turn into Drew Brees 2.0. I'd place low odds on that.

He IS a smart football junky who is extremely accurate and good at reading defense both pre- and post-snap. Arm strength is a concern, like Quinn and Cassel. Question would be, if he ever got snaps, if his moxy, accuracy and ability to read the D would make up for it (that's how Brees gets by).

Fritz88
03-12-2013, 08:31 AM
I'll take him.
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Pestilence
03-12-2013, 08:31 AM
:spock:

He's 26. If we drafted a QB it would be in the 7th round as a strictly developmental guy.

Direckshun
03-12-2013, 08:33 AM
He's 26. If we drafted a QB it would be in the 7th round as a strictly developmental guy.

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Pestilence
03-12-2013, 08:35 AM
Reid figured out what we've been doing wrong all these years. It wasnt that we were bringing in other teams backups. It's that we weren't bringing in enough of them!

ILChief
03-12-2013, 08:39 AM
Yeah, if we bring on Chase Daniel, the dream of Geno is buried.

It already is

58-4ever
03-12-2013, 08:40 AM
Color me unimpressed.

Rausch
03-12-2013, 08:42 AM
He's 26. If we drafted a QB it would be in the 7th round as a strictly developmental guy.

We can draft a QB whenever we want.

Chase isn't going to change any of that...

DA_T_84
03-12-2013, 08:42 AM
Color Me Bad.

FYP

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 08:44 AM
With Glass Smith at QB, he'll have a much better chance of getting some PT here.

CoMoChief
03-12-2013, 08:45 AM
that would be hilarious if he beat out Alex Smith

King_Chief_Fan
03-12-2013, 08:48 AM
at least we are not bringing in Vince Young....................................................................................are we?STFU

Brainiac
03-12-2013, 08:49 AM
Last week I heard some guy on the Sirius NFL channel raving about Chase Daniel. I believe he was a scout for some NFL team. I didn't pay that much attention to it because I wasn't even thinking about Daniel as a possibility for the Chiefs.

As I recall, he compared a team picking up Chase Daniel to the Packers' acquisition of Brett Favre. I think everyone would agree that a comparison like that sounds pretty ridiculous. He did concede that Chase Daniel is obviously no Brett Favre, but he talked about how well Daniel has played for New Orleans in the preseason games and said some team could pick up a pretty high quality quarterback for next to nothing if they acquire him.

Sounds like a pretty low-risk acquisition to me. It would indicate that Reid and Dorsey don't see a whole lot to be excited about in this draft class, so they're doing everything they can to address the quarterback position in other ways. That's the complete opposite of what Scott ***** did.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 08:49 AM
Alex Smith
Chase Daniel - May want to watch tape on him before you bash. NFL tape.
Mike Scott (rookie QB)

Light years ahead of

Cassell
Quinn
Stanzi

Rausch
03-12-2013, 08:49 AM
at least we are not bringing in Vince Young....................................................................................are we?STFU

Randal Cunningham!LMAO

O.city
03-12-2013, 08:49 AM
We can draft a QB whenever we want.

Chase isn't going to change any of that...

3 million dollars plus says otherwise.

Inmem58
03-12-2013, 08:49 AM
that would be hilarious if he beat out Alex Smith

Our organization doesn't like to be embarrassed. They'll keep playing Smith until he gets hurt........again.

Rausch
03-12-2013, 08:50 AM
3 million dollars plus says otherwise.

Not really.

I think if anything not adding a developmental guy in the draft is against both what Dorsey and Phat Andy are about...

RyFo18
03-12-2013, 08:51 AM
Alex Smith
Chase Daniel - May want to watch tape on him before you bash. NFL tape.
Mike Scott (rookie QB)

Light years ahead of

Cassell
Quinn
Stanzi

What tape exists for Daniel other than preseason against backups? C'mon.

And it's Matt Scott. :thumb:

O.city
03-12-2013, 08:51 AM
Why add a 3rd string developmental guy when you could have a positional guy that could actually contribute? Doesn't make alot of sense.

Ace Gunner
03-12-2013, 08:51 AM
he would fit in with the other midgets...

Inmem58
03-12-2013, 08:52 AM
Nothing beats getting players out of the bargain bin.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 08:52 AM
We can draft a QB whenever we want.

Chase isn't going to change any of that...

Yeah he is. He'd be 26 and making $3 million a year. He's not a 3rd string QB.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 08:56 AM
What tape exists for Daniel other than preseason against backups? C'mon.

And it's Matt Scott. :thumb:

No tape exists. In fact nobody should consider giving this guy a job due to his weak arm and he is a retread.

Rausch
03-12-2013, 08:56 AM
Yeah he is. He'd be 26 and making $3 million a year. He's not a 3rd string QB.

The 49'ers signed the deal with Smith and the next year replaced him.

Alex Smith is the best short term solution out there so we went and got him. If you can upgrade that position this year or next for 1/2 the cost you'd be an idiot not to...

kepp
03-12-2013, 08:59 AM
No tape exists. In fact nobody should consider giving this guy a job due to his weak arm and he is a retread.

LMAO Look at the other guys we've given jobs to for the last few years.

duncan_idaho
03-12-2013, 09:01 AM
Also... honestly would have rather taken a shot with signing Daniel as a FA and drafting a QB either at 1 or 34 than trading for Alex Grbonossel.

Lower opportunity cost with signing Daniel as a FA, and similar upside (Yes, Smith is more proven, but what he ISN'T is also proven).

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 09:01 AM
Alex Smith
Chase Daniel - May want to watch tape on him before you bash. NFL tape.
Mike Scott (rookie QB)

Light years ahead of

Cassell
Quinn
Stanzi

Better does not equal good.

suds79
03-12-2013, 09:02 AM
Chase should personally thank Russel Wilson for opening the idea to GMs everywhere that being short isn't a deal breaker. ;)

buddha
03-12-2013, 09:04 AM
Chase Daniel would be a terrific QB option in KC. For some reason, either by competition or injury, I doubt he'd be a back up for long.

buddha
03-12-2013, 09:05 AM
Chase should personally thank Russel Wilson for opening the idea to GMs everywhere that being short isn't a deal breaker. ;)

Fran Tarkenton, Doug Flutie, Drew Brees, and several dozen others who came before Russell Wilson say hi.

ChiefMojo
03-12-2013, 09:06 AM
Again a solid option but $3 million would be way over paying IMO.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 09:08 AM
Better does not equal good.

Great insight.

58-4ever
03-12-2013, 09:09 AM
Again a solid option but $3 million would be way over paying IMO.

What insight do you have about our cap situation and why do you care about other people's money?

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 09:09 AM
What insight do you have about our cap situation and why do you care about other people's money?

Exactly.

suds79
03-12-2013, 09:09 AM
Fran Tarkenton, Doug Flutie, Drew Brees, and several dozen others who came before Russell Wilson say hi.

Relax it was a little tongue in cheek. ;)

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 09:10 AM
Great insight.

You would be suprised how many justify this dumb ass move by saying "He's better then Cassell!"

Discuss Thrower
03-12-2013, 09:12 AM
Too short and is a product of the spread.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 09:14 AM
You would be suprised how many justify this dumb ass move by saying "He's better then Cassell!"

I take it you're a Geno or nobody guy. When Akili Smith pt. 2 washes out of the NFL in 3 years we'll see what your take is..

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-12-2013, 09:14 AM
Look, if they are really sold on wasting the 1-1 on a RT, it makes more sense than anyone else available. Fuck any of the QB's that would be available in the 3rd.

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 09:16 AM
I take it your a Geno or nobody guy. When Akili Smith pt. 2 washes out of the NFL in 3 years we'll see what your take is..

Yeah, those black guys always bust out :facepalm: You know since skin color is about the only thing those guys have in common.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 09:17 AM
Yeah, those black guys always bust out.

Get it out, get it all out. Race had to play into this. :rolleyes:

duncan_idaho
03-12-2013, 09:19 AM
Get it out, get it all out. Race had to play into this. :rolleyes:

Geno Smith and Akili Smith have two things in common:

Race and last name.

Nothing else tracks, so it's a dumb comparison.

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-12-2013, 09:19 AM
Get it out, get it all out. Race had to play into this. :rolleyes:

How else do the two compare? Their skillset and experience is NOTHING alike.

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 09:20 AM
Get it out, get it all out. Race had to play into this. :rolleyes:

Okay. I'll put you in the no QB in this draft will ever be better then Alex Smith camp. We'll see how that plays out in a few years.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 09:21 AM
Umm - I didn't make up the comparison. It's been out there for awhile..

Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel talked to anonymous scouts about Smith:

Hed be the only (quarterback) Id consider, one scout said. Hes really poised. Really good vision. Hes not one of those system guys who just chucks it to the first guy. He can see the field and read defenses. Hes athletic. Hes gotten a lot better, too, and should get a lot better in the pros. Another scout compared him to Akili Smith, a draft bust from 1999. That will end the conversation, that scout said.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 09:21 AM
Wow....ONE scout compared him to Akili Smith......so he's Akili Smith.

:facepalm:

duncan_idaho
03-12-2013, 09:24 AM
Akili Smith:

One year starter
Best completion percentage in college: 58 percent
Career completion percentage in college: 57 percent
24 years old at start of first NFL season
Had spent two developmental years playing minor-league baseball
JUCO transfer


Geno Smith:

Three-year starter
Best completion percentage in college: 71 percent
Career completion percentage in college: 67 percent
22 years old at start of first NFL season
Football-focused with no other real interests

Mr_Tomahawk
03-12-2013, 09:25 AM
do not want


Hope this is all speculation...

duncan_idaho
03-12-2013, 09:25 AM
Umm - I didn't make up the comparison. It's been out there for awhile..

Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel talked to anonymous scouts about Smith:

Hed be the only (quarterback) Id consider, one scout said. Hes really poised. Really good vision. Hes not one of those system guys who just chucks it to the first guy. He can see the field and read defenses. Hes athletic. Hes gotten a lot better, too, and should get a lot better in the pros. Another scout compared him to Akili Smith, a draft bust from 1999. That will end the conversation, that scout said.

That scout is a racist moron.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 09:26 AM
Akili Smith

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0423/nfl_i_asmith1_576.jpg



Geno Smith

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/177/708/hi-res-162515042_crop_exact.jpg?w=650&h=440&q=75



I see your comparisons.

buddha
03-12-2013, 09:27 AM
:facepalm:Yes...black QBs can ONLY be compared to other black QBs, don't you guys know that? :facepalm:

Geno and Akili have nothing in common...style of play, arm strength, mobility, field command...all different.

When will the dumbassery end around here?

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 09:28 AM
If it makes you feel better then he can be called Blaine Gabbert pt. 2

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 09:29 AM
Akili Smith

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0423/nfl_i_asmith1_576.jpg



Geno Smith

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/177/708/hi-res-162515042_crop_exact.jpg?w=650&h=440&q=75



I see your comparisons.

Good one.

buddha
03-12-2013, 09:29 AM
Umm - I didn't make up the comparison. It's been out there for awhile..

Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel talked to anonymous scouts about Smith:

Hed be the only (quarterback) Id consider, one scout said. Hes really poised. Really good vision. Hes not one of those system guys who just chucks it to the first guy. He can see the field and read defenses. Hes athletic. Hes gotten a lot better, too, and should get a lot better in the pros. Another scout compared him to Akili Smith, a draft bust from 1999. That will end the conversation, that scout said.

So something is relevant and true because it has been out there for awhile?

Almost every bad stereotype about black men has been out there "for awhile".

You are on the wrong end of this conversation, Bootlegged. Grow up.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 09:31 AM
So something is relevant and true because it has been out there for awhile?

Almost every bad stereotype about black men has been out there "for awhile".

You are on the wrong end of this conversation, Bootlegged. Grow up.

Cry me a river. I simply stated a comparison that has been made by multiple people that think he will wash out of the league. You are the idiots that had to bring race up.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 09:32 AM
If it makes you feel better then he can be called Blaine Gabbert pt. 2

Because they have NOTHING in common.

You fucking suck at this.

buddha
03-12-2013, 09:32 AM
Cry me a river. I simply stated a comparison that has been made by multiple people that think he will wash out of the league. You are the idiots that had to bring race up.

Ha..ha...ha.....ha! Yeah, there were no racial undertones to your posts. Right. Got it Chief!

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 09:33 AM
It's funny that I've yet to see a comparison to Tim Couch, who is probably the closest prospect to Geno that busted out. Although Geno has a much better TD:INT ratio. It's also Akili Smith, Vince Young, or Jamarcus Russell.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 09:33 AM
Because they have NOTHING in common.

You ****ing suck at this.

I would hope you disagree with me on this or anything else in life.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 09:35 AM
Explain to me how Blaine Gabbert and Geno Smith are comparable.

tony77
03-12-2013, 09:35 AM
He would have started last year if he would have been on the roster.

Not with scott running things.

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 09:36 AM
Explain to me how Blaine Gabbert and Geno Smith are comparable.

They were both top prospects coming out of high school... and that's all I got.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 09:39 AM
Wow. A high draft choice that is a bust. Is it really this hard? God forbid I didn't use a white guy. Leaf, Couch, Gabbert, what the fuck ever. Find something else to bitch about.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 09:40 AM
Geno Smith is already a bust and he hasn't been drafted yet?

You can see into the future?

Go fuck yourself, racist.

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 09:41 AM
Wow. A high draft choice that is a bust. Is it really this hard? God forbid I didn't use a white guy. Leaf, Couch, Gabbert, what the **** ever. Find something else to bitch about.

It's cool bro. I know a few guys that love them some mediocre Alex Smith rather then take the east coast brother.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 09:41 AM
Geno Smith is already a bust and he hasn't been drafted yet?

You can see into the future?

Go **** yourself, racist.

Get back to flipping burgers before the lunch crowd overwhelms you.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 09:43 AM
Get back to flipping burgers before the lunch crowd overwhelms you.

Cool story bro.

MahiMike
03-12-2013, 09:43 AM
Way better than Blame Gabbert. And he's learned from the best. Lot to be said for QB's that sit behind HOF players.

ILChief
03-12-2013, 09:49 AM
Way better than Blame Gabbert. And he's learned from the best. Lot to be said for QB's that sit behind HOF players.

Sure worked for that Cassel guy

Detoxing
03-12-2013, 09:50 AM
Oh please no.

Alex Smith, Chase Daniel and Ricky Stanzi? Oh the hilarity that would ensue.

jd1020
03-12-2013, 09:53 AM
Oh please no.

Alex Smith, Chase Daniel and Ricky Stanzi? Oh the hilarity that would ensue.

Same shit, different regime.

patteeu
03-12-2013, 09:57 AM
That scout is a racist moron.

Don't be ridiculous. You're seriously suggesting that an NFL scout is a racist? That's pretty unlikely.

Completion percentage and whether or not a guy has played baseball aren't the only points of comparison.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:00 AM
Don't be ridiculous. You're seriously suggesting that an NFL scout is a racist? That's pretty unlikely.

Completion percentage and whether or not a guy has played baseball aren't the only points of comparison.

Show me the comparisons then. Akili Smith and Geno Smith having nothing in common outside of their last name and skin color.

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 10:00 AM
Don't be ridiculous. You're seriously suggesting that an NFL scout is a racist? That's pretty unlikely.

Completion percentage and whether or not a guy has played baseball aren't the only points of comparison.

I don't know if anyone is purely a racist on that comment but they are stereotyping for sure.

bevischief
03-12-2013, 10:00 AM
Can't be any worse than what we saw the past few years.

GoTrav
03-12-2013, 10:00 AM
so was Chase signed or not. I saw something on his twitter that he was...can't make that out in this thread though lol

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:01 AM
Well holy shit. Looks like another black QB gets compared to Akili Smith.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/649354-nfl-draft-2011-comparing-this-years-stars-to-recent-draftees/entry/57427-nfl-draft-2011-why-cam-newton-is-the-next-akili-smith

jd1020
03-12-2013, 10:01 AM
so was Chase signed or not. I saw something on his twitter that he was...can't make that out in this thread though lol

He can't be signed until 4ET...

duncan_idaho
03-12-2013, 10:03 AM
Don't be ridiculous. You're seriously suggesting that an NFL scout is a racist? That's pretty unlikely.

Completion percentage and whether or not a guy has played baseball aren't the only points of comparison.

Please find something about Akili Smith and Geno Smith that is similar other than last name and skin color.

Experience as a quarterback at a high level? Nope.

Accuracy? Nope.

Focus on football? Nope.

Style of offense? Nope.

Downfield passing accuracy? Nope.

Ability to read defenses? Nope.

They have similar arm strength, so I guess that's one other thing that's similar.

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 10:04 AM
You would be suprised how many justify this dumb ass move by saying "He's better then Cassell!"

Can't be any worse than what we saw the past few years.

And there it is LMAO

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:04 AM
Hmmmm.....Kiper compares Newton to Akili Smith.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/09/kiper-calls-newton-one-year-wonder-like-akili-smith/

mcaj22
03-12-2013, 10:08 AM
im not a homer by any means and i know its only preseason but this dude has the potential of being groomed in another teams farm system and he could come in training camp and absolutely crap on Alex Smith

i fully expect Alex Smith to get hurt at some point this season since hes the injury prone king thats played in only 80 of a possible 112 games, so at his 70 percent durability, Chase Daniel will at least start a few real NFL games for us, and we can see what he has.

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 10:10 AM
im not a homer by any means and i know its only preseason but this dude has the potential of being groomed in another teams farm system and he could come in training camp and absolutely crap on Alex Smith

i fully expect Alex Smith to get hurt at some point this season since hes the injury prone king thats played in only 80 of a possible 112 games, so at his 70 percent durability, Chase Daniel will at least start a few real NFL games for us, and we can see what he has.

I don't think you need to be a homer to believe another teams backup QB is better then Alex Smith. As a matter of fact the 49ers felt the same way last year.

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:10 AM
let me ask a question

is this one of those guys that was a 'if he was 3" taller he'd be a 1st round pick' guys or...?

just curious

tooge
03-12-2013, 10:10 AM
Andy Reid's offense needs a very accurate passer that doesn't have to have a rifle for an arm, ala Alex Smith.

Chase Daniel would be a perfect backup in this system. He's smart, he is accurate, and he is a football junky.

This move would be for a back up only. nothing more. Not sure why people wouldn't want to improve the backup position on this team when currently we have Cassel and Stanzi on the roster.

okcchief
03-12-2013, 10:11 AM
I'm a KU fan, and never thought he would be a NFL QB. I have liked what I have seen from him in limited action, and liked that he learned under a great QB who is a similar size etc. I'm actually ok with this as a backup option as long as we cut Stanzi and still draft someone. However, if they are doing this instead of drafting a QB I don't like it as much.

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:11 AM
well what this is telling me is...

everyone still thinking there is a shot in the world we take Geno at #1 is just batshit crazy

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 10:12 AM
Andy Reid's offense needs a very accurate passer that doesn't have to have a rifle for an arm, ala Alex Smith.

Chase Daniel would be a perfect backup in this system. He's smart, he is accurate, and he is a football junky.

This move would be for a back up only. nothing more. Not sure why people wouldn't want to improve the backup position on this team when currently we have Cassel and Stanzi on the roster.

Because it eliminates the possibility, in the short term, of having a franchise QB one snap away from playing. Or at least a possible one like Kaepernick last year. So someone like Bray or Wilson backing up Alex gives you at least a slim chance of hitting on the QB.

duncan_idaho
03-12-2013, 10:12 AM
let me ask a question

is this one of those guys that was a 'if he was 3" taller he'd be a 1st round pick' guys or...?

just curious

I would put it at...

"If he was 3" taller, he'd be a second- or third-round pick. If he was 3" taller and had an average NFL arm, he'd be a late first-round pick."

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:12 AM
Andy Reid's offense needs a very accurate passer that doesn't have to have a rifle for an arm, ala Alex Smith.

Chase Daniel would be a perfect backup in this system. He's smart, he is accurate, and he is a football junky.

This move would be for a back up only. nothing more. Not sure why people wouldn't want to improve the backup position on this team when currently we have Cassel and Stanzi on the roster.

So we're going to sign a 26 year old QB to a $3 million/year contract to be a backup?

Where the fuck are setting ourselves up for the future?

mcaj22
03-12-2013, 10:13 AM
Andy Reid's offense needs a very accurate passer that doesn't have to have a rifle for an arm, ala Alex Smith.

Chase Daniel would be a perfect backup in this system. He's smart, he is accurate, and he is a football junky.

This move would be for a back up only. nothing more. Not sure why people wouldn't want to improve the backup position on this team when currently we have Cassel and Stanzi on the roster.

every starting QB Reid has ever had in his system has had a cannon for an arm

Alex Smith bucks that trend and is the first noodle dick that cant throw farther than 20 yards under Reid as a starting QB

mcaj22
03-12-2013, 10:14 AM
I don't think you need to be a homer to believe another teams backup QB is better then Alex Smith. As a matter of fact the 49ers felt the same way last year.


i sadly feel that way about most "good" NFL teams and their backups right now, that includes Chase Daniel that I would rather give a starting shot to than Alex ****ing Smith

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:14 AM
I love Chiefs fans.

Alex Smith and Chase Daniel. Welp....it's better than Cassel and Quinn.

Fuck.

mcaj22
03-12-2013, 10:15 AM
yea but if it was Chase Daniel and rookie first round QB ala the Seattle Seahawks with Flynn and Wilson, then everyone would be happy.

but you know we cant do whatever good teams ever do.

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:17 AM
I love Chiefs fans.

Alex Smith and Chase Daniel. Welp....it's better than Cassel and Quinn.

****.

well

it's true

I guess the Pioli regime just detached me so much emotionally that I no longer have to yell and scream and bitch and moan...sometimes I just want to enjoy being a Chiefs fan even if it means we'll never win anything

it's better than being a little bitch like 90% of the board since the Smith trade

duncan_idaho
03-12-2013, 10:17 AM
yea but if it was Chase Daniel and rookie first round QB ala the Seattle Seahawks with Flynn and Wilson, then everyone would be happy.

but you know we cant do whatever good teams ever do.

... until 10 years after they did it, when all the other good teams have moved on to the new, smart thing to do.

Chase Daniel + a QB taken at No. 1 or No. 34 + whatever you take at the other pick ... much better than Alex Smith + whatever you take at No. 1.

Similar upside. Much lower cost.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:19 AM
well

it's true

I guess the ***** regime just detached me so much emotionally that I no longer have to yell and scream and bitch and moan...sometimes I just want to enjoy being a Chiefs fan even if it means we'll never win anything

it's better than being a little bitch like 90% of the board since the Smith trade

I've calmed down since the Smith trade. As it stands right now....I'm holding out hope that we fill the major holes in FA and draft a QB at #1 (Geno Smith) or trade down a couple of spots and draft Barkley. If that doesn't happen.....I'll go into morphine Chiefs mode. I'll watch the games....but I really won't give a shit one way or another. I'll end up paying more attention to fantasy football.

And since I've got you here. Better keeper.....

Doug Martin (4th round)
Colin Kaepernick (18th round)

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 10:20 AM
Akili Smith

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0423/nfl_i_asmith1_576.jpg



Geno Smith

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/177/708/hi-res-162515042_crop_exact.jpg?w=650&h=440&q=75





I see your comparisons.

I see what you did there.

Raysuss.

mcaj22
03-12-2013, 10:20 AM
just our luck we get a GM and a coach who come from "Build through the draft/BPA" philosophies and the first thing they fucking do is trade for a 30 year old backup crap veteran injury prone slapdick to be their starter

after drafting QBs and BPA for a fucking decade.

nychief
03-12-2013, 10:21 AM
We have a starting QB with concussion concerns...we need a vet backup QB. Everybody should relax...I doubt this comes to fruition anyway.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:22 AM
just our luck we get a GM and a coach who come from "Build through the draft/BPA" philosophies and the first thing they fucking do is trade for a 30 year old backup crap veteran injury prone slapdick to be their starter

after drafting QBs and BPA for a fucking decade.

And this is why I think that Geno Smith still has a legitimate shot to be drafted by us.

1. Reid and Dorsey think that this roster isn't a 2-14 roster. They believe that coaching and a better QB can win them a lot more games. Hence the trade for Alex Smith.

2. They know that Alex Smith isn't their QBoTF....so they'll draft Geno to sit behind him for a year. Geno gets to learn under Andy Reid and Alex Smith....and has zero pressure his first year in the league.

And yes....I do realize this has a 20% chance of happening.

King_Chief_Fan
03-12-2013, 10:23 AM
I love Chiefs fans.

Alex Smith and Chase Daniel. Welp....it's better than Cassel and Quinn.

****.

don't mistake acknowledgement as acceptance....at least they didn't stand pat:D.....This is a year or two process to fix this train wreck

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 10:23 AM
Sure worked for that Cassel guy


:LOL:

CassHole will prolly wind up starting for the Cards this year...

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 10:24 AM
Well holy shit. Looks like another black QB gets compared to Akili Smith.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/649354-nfl-draft-2011-comparing-this-years-stars-to-recent-draftees/entry/57427-nfl-draft-2011-why-cam-newton-is-the-next-akili-smith

Bleacher Report is raysuss.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:25 AM
Bleacher Report is raysuss.

Mel Kiper said the same shit.

ChiTown
03-12-2013, 10:25 AM
LMAO

patteeu
03-12-2013, 10:26 AM
Show me the comparisons then. Akili Smith and Geno Smith having nothing in common outside of their last name and skin color.

Please find something about Akili Smith and Geno Smith that is similar other than last name and skin color.

That's really pretty easy. Both of them were/are supposed to have very strong arms. Neither of them were runners but both of them were able to use their legs when they need to. Both were supposed to be pretty intelligent. You dopes are so quick to call racism but neither of you even know what you're talking about. I don't know why that scout compared GS to Akili, but I'm confident that he's got a better grasp of both of those players skillsets than either of you.

Experience as a quarterback at a high level? Nope.

Both of them played at major colleges so I don't know where you get this.

Accuracy? Nope.

Downfield passing accuracy? Nope.

Maybe not, but they had almost identical passer efficiency ratings their senior years. Geno (163.9). Akili (167.3).

Ability to read defenses? Nope.

What do you know about their abilities to read defenses? Please.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:26 AM
If we sign him....I'd like to see the amount of Daniels custom jerseys that get ordered.

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:27 AM
I've calmed down since the Smith trade. As it stands right now....I'm holding out hope that we fill the major holes in FA and draft a QB at #1 (Geno Smith) or trade down a couple of spots and draft Barkley. If that doesn't happen.....I'll go into morphine Chiefs mode. I'll watch the games....but I really won't give a shit one way or another. I'll end up paying more attention to fantasy football.

And since I've got you here. Better keeper.....

Doug Martin (4th round)
Colin Kaepernick (18th round)

Kaepernick and it isn't even close.

Especially in traditional QB leagues Kaepernick is a 2 for 1...he'll get you 60 rushing yards a game and a TD every other game.

Of course I only play in 2 QB leagues anymore so perhaps I over value the QB position...but I don't see how you pass on an 18th round keeper like Kaepernick who is an elite QB and you'll get to keep for years and years and years at low round value.

Doug Martin had 2 or 3 GREAT games but he plays for Tampa Bay...doesn't really excite me all that much. He's already on my do not draft in '13 list...not because I don't think he'll be a top 10-12 RB, but because he'll be drafted like a top 5-7 back and I don't put him there.

Of course, I undervalue RB's and never take them early as well because I think the real value in fantasy (just like the NFL) is getting elite receivers who have elite QB's throwing them the balls...

you build by getting an elite QB, two elite WR's (with an elite QB), and an elite TE (with an elite QB)...and then you worry about RB's.

duncan_idaho
03-12-2013, 10:27 AM
And this is why I think that Geno Smith still has a legitimate shot to be drafted by us.

1. Reid and Dorsey think that this roster isn't a 2-14 roster. They believe that coaching and a better QB can win them a lot more games. Hence the trade for Alex Smith.

2. They know that Alex Smith isn't their QBoTF....so they'll draft Geno to sit behind him for a year. Geno gets to learn under Andy Reid and Alex Smith....and has zero pressure his first year in the league.

And yes....I do realize this has a 20% chance of happening.

I would do backflips if I thought that was a real 20 percent chance. More like 0.2 percent.

patteeu
03-12-2013, 10:27 AM
I don't know if anyone is purely a racist on that comment but they are stereotyping for sure.

What about the people who jump to the conclusion that racism is involved? Aren't they looking past any possibile non-racial similarities because they're so focused on the race of the individuals involved?

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 10:27 AM
Mel Kiper said the same shit.
Mel Kiper is raysuss.

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:29 AM
and we aren't drafting a QB #1 overall...

our only shot of a QB is if we can parlay our #1 into the #10-#15 and see if Geno or Matt falls there and Reid/Dorsey think it's a good value pick.

As it stands, I've pretty much came to the realization we're taking an OT #1...which ruins draft day for me...but I'm done losing sleep and yelling and screaming at this team.

If they suck again, they suck again. I'll just enjoy being a fantasy guru like I did in 2012.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:29 AM
Kaepernick and it isn't even close.

Especially in traditional QB leagues Kaepernick is a 2 for 1...he'll get you 60 rushing yards a game and a TD every other game.

Of course I only play in 2 QB leagues anymore so perhaps I over value the QB position...but I don't see how you pass on an 18th round keeper like Kaepernick who is an elite QB and you'll get to keep for years and years and years at low round value.

Doug Martin had 2 or 3 GREAT games but he plays for Tampa Bay...doesn't really excite me all that much. He's already on my do not draft in '13 list...not because I don't think he'll be a top 10-12 RB, but because he'll be drafted like a top 5-7 back and I don't put him there.

Of course, I undervalue RB's and never take them early as well because I think the real value in fantasy (just like the NFL) is getting elite receivers who have elite QB's throwing them the balls...

you build by getting an elite QB, two elite WR's (with an elite QB), and an elite TE (with an elite QB)...and then you worry about RB's.

Well....I'd get him for a max of 3 years.....but I understand what you're saying. I was already planning on keeping him....just wanted to get another opinion.

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:30 AM
I would do backflips if I thought that was a real 20 percent chance. More like 0.2 percent.

I agree...we're not taking Geno Smith at #1. I put that at 0%.

If we can trade down to the middle of the 1st and he's magically still there then maybe.

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 10:32 AM
I agree...we're not taking Geno Smith at #1. I put that at 0%.

If we can trade down to the middle of the 1st and he's magically still there then maybe.



Oh man...if we could trade down to even just the middle of the 1st...

that would be the best-case scenario.

duncan_idaho
03-12-2013, 10:33 AM
That's really pretty easy. Both of them were/are supposed to have very strong arms. Neither of them were runners but both of them were able to use their legs when they need to. Both were supposed to be pretty intelligent. You dopes are so quick to call racism but neither of you even know what you're talking about. I don't know why that scout compared GS to Akili, but I'm confident that he's got a better grasp of both of those players skillsets than either of you.



Both of them played at major colleges so I don't know where you get this.



Maybe not, but they had almost identical passer efficiency ratings their senior years. Geno (163.9). Akili (167.3).



What do you know about their abilities to read defenses? Please.

Geno Smith was a three-year starter at a high-major team. Akili Smith was a one-year starter who spent two years at JUCO.

Reading defenses? Only what I've read about them, in various areas.

Racism/stereotyping, call it what you want. But I've worked and spoken with a lot of NFL scouts. There is no doubt in my mind that stereotyping/racism comes into play with them, especially with QBs.

Akili Smith is still a dumb comparison for Geno Smith, but I will give you that it's less dumb than some of the other black QBs he has been compared to.

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:34 AM
yeah in my ideal world we can trade down to like #6...and then trade down again to like #12-#15

recover what we traded for Alex Smith + some...

I could see the Bears being quite interested in a Luke Joeckel...if they want to swap 1sts with us and throw in there 2nd + a 2014 2nd (or even 1st if we get lucky) sign me up!

doesn't seem like a Patriots way kind of trade though

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:35 AM
Who are the Browns trading up to #1 for?

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:36 AM
I'd trade #1 for #20, #52 and a 2014 1st. No problem.

jd1020
03-12-2013, 10:36 AM
I could see the Bears being quite interested in a Luke Joeckel...if they want to swap 1sts with us and throw in there 2nd + a 2014 2nd (or even 1st if we get lucky) sign me up!

Thats like Alex Smith trade level rape. Getting less than half value back.

I'd rather pick Geno Smith.

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:37 AM
Who are the Browns trading up to #1 for?

I didn't look who was picking where...I just used 6 as an example.

but yeah...the Bears are all like 'omg we need a LT'...

ok so trade up, take Joeckel at 1, give him his 4 years and 25M...

and then give us 20, 52, and 2014 #1 (or even 2, I don't care) and I'm ok with it.

I don't see anyone at 1 I want over 20 if we aren't taking a QB...we don't need a fucking tackle or DL.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:37 AM
I think if we found out a way to get out of the #1 spot....it'd be a lot easier to trade down into the middle of the round. It's getting out of the #1 that's going to be hard.

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 10:37 AM
doesn't seem like a Patriots way kind of trade though

that almost got you a neg rep.

Raysuss.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:38 AM
The LT free agency signings are going to tell us a lot.

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:38 AM
Thats like Alex Smith trade level rape. Getting less than half value back.

that value chart is total bullshit and it's even more total bullshit when there is no elite #1 talent in the draft

this draft fucking sucks up top

especially for us

this isn't Luck/RGIII year where the top 2 picks were worth a metric shit ton

this is Joeckel/Loutietiiatiaita/Shit year...

you take what you can get if you're the Chiefs because there is no one at #1 worth taking if Reid doesn't like the QBs

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:39 AM
that almost got you a neg rep.

Raysuss.

Emery is a Pioli scout...

that is what the 'Patriots way' comment was...

but feel free to neg rep me, I don't give a flying fuck...I prefer neg to posi

jd1020
03-12-2013, 10:39 AM
that value chart is total bullshit and it's even more total bullshit when there is no elite #1 talent in the draft

Nah, not really.

Pretty sure I've seen a graph comparing actual compensation vs the trade value chart and it was damn near a 1:1 correlation.

And I don't care how shitty this draft may appear. 19 fucking spots better yield more than 2 terrible 2nds.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:41 AM
I think the Eagles might be a possibility for a trade down partner. They could be looking at trading up for someone like Dion Jordan or a LT.

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:43 AM
Nah, not really.

Pretty sure I've seen a graph comparing actual compensation vs the trade value chart and it was damn near a 1:1 correlation.

And I don't care how shitty this draft may appear. 19 ****ing spots better yield more than 2 terrible 2nds.

if you think anyone is offering us RGIII level of compensation for our shitty year #1 pick you're on meth

I don't want an OT or a DL...

and Reid doesn't want a QB...

so whatever the fuck it takes for us to get out of OL-ville at #1 sign me the fuck up...even if we have to take a 3rd rate offer that moves us down to the middle of the 1st but recovers the Smith compensation...

I don't care if we get $0.60 on the $1 for our #1 pick this year if it means we don't take an OT

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 10:44 AM
Emery is a ***** scout...

that is what the 'Patriots way' comment was...

but feel free to neg rep me, I don't give a flying ****...I prefer neg to posi


I thought it was funny.

Jeez, I don't take ANY of this that seriously...

unnecessary drama
03-12-2013, 10:45 AM
neg rep

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 10:46 AM
if you think anyone is offering us RGIII level of compensation for our shitty year #1 pick you're on meth

I don't want an OT or a DL...

and Reid doesn't want a QB...

so whatever the **** it takes for us to get out of OL-ville at #1 sign me the **** up...even if we have to take a 3rd rate offer that moves us down to the middle of the 1st but recovers the Smith compensation...

I don't care if we get $0.60 on the $1 for our #1 pick this year if it means we don't take an OT
:thumb::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::rockon:

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 10:46 AM
I love Chiefs fans.

Alex Smith and Chase Daniel. Welp....it's better than Cassel and Quinn.

****.

We should all respect your mad talent evaluation skills.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=258553

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:47 AM
I don't even think that we'd get a 1st round pick next year unless we traded WAY down in the 1st round. A move in the top 10 this year probably will only get us picks in this years draft.

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 10:47 AM
neg rep

fair enough

patteeu
03-12-2013, 10:49 AM
Geno Smith was a three-year starter at a high-major team. Akili Smith was a one-year starter who spent two years at JUCO.

Reading defenses? Only what I've read about them, in various areas.

Racism/stereotyping, call it what you want. But I've worked and spoken with a lot of NFL scouts. There is no doubt in my mind that stereotyping/racism comes into play with them, especially with QBs.

Akili Smith is still a dumb comparison for Geno Smith, but I will give you that it's less dumb than some of the other black QBs he has been compared to.

Ok, that's close enough. I doubt that it's the best possible comparison. I don't know enough to know whether it's a really dumb comparison or not. I just think that the original reaction from the people calling bootlegged racist suggesting that there's absolutely no basis for comparison other than race (when that's obviously not the case) was low class.

Sorter
03-12-2013, 10:50 AM
Ok, that's close enough. I doubt that it's the best possible comparison. I don't know enough to know whether it's a really dumb comparison or not. I just think that the original reaction from the people calling bootlegged racist suggesting that there's absolutely no basis for comparison other than race (when that's obviously not the case) was low class.

No, it's an absolutely terrible comparison IMO.

gblowfish
03-12-2013, 10:53 AM
My favorite Chase Daniel picture, at Nebraska:

royr17
03-12-2013, 10:54 AM
I think the Eagles might be a possibility for a trade down partner. They could be looking at trading up for someone like Dion Jordan or a LT.

Remember too not only do they need offensive tackle help but they need a qb too and are clearly interested in geno smith. I'd rather see us trade down with Philly and they take Geno instead of Geno landing in Oakland.

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 10:54 AM
I don't even think that we'd get a 1st round pick next year unless we traded WAY down in the 1st round. A move in the top 10 this year probably will only get us picks in this years draft.


Ok.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 10:55 AM
FWIW, I know two former WVU players that have stood on the field for every game for the past 10+ years. They both laughed when I asked them about Geno as #1 overall. Both were surprised to hear that he was even considered a first rounder. This was Nov/Dec -so before all the draft hype.

B14ckmon
03-12-2013, 10:55 AM
You guys excited for the Alex deal to official here soon?

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 10:55 AM
Ok, that's close enough. I doubt that it's the best possible comparison. I don't know enough to know whether it's a really dumb comparison or not. I just think that the original reaction from the people calling bootlegged racist suggesting that there's absolutely no basis for comparison other than race (when that's obviously not the case) was low class.

Ironically, it's actually raysuss in and of itself.

Gnome saine??

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 10:56 AM
You guys excited for the Alex deal to official here soon?

for sure - he's not Casshole.

B14ckmon
03-12-2013, 10:56 AM
Remember too not only do they need offensive tackle help but they need a qb too and are clearly interested in geno smith. I'd rather see us trade down with Philly and they take Geno instead of Geno landing in Oakland.

Only way Eagles are trading up, is to leapfrog us to get Dion Jordan.

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 10:56 AM
Ok, that's close enough. I doubt that it's the best possible comparison. I don't know enough to know whether it's a really dumb comparison or not. I just think that the original reaction from the people calling bootlegged racist suggesting that there's absolutely no basis for comparison other than race (when that's obviously not the case) was low class.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say his avi probably influenced your rush to his defense. It's a stupid comparison and I'd say 90% chance influenced by skin color.

Dave Lane
03-12-2013, 10:57 AM
Daniel didn't a miss a beat taking over for Brees with NO's offense during the preseason games I've watched. This would be a massive upgrade over anything we had in years.

Gigantic homer alert. I'd rather have trick shot to be fair. Stanzi 2.0, no interest one way or the other. A. Smith would be happy, he'd be safely ensconced as the starter for life.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 10:57 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say his avi probably influenced your rush to his defense. It's a stupid comparison and I'd say 90% chance influenced by skin color.

And others to their attack.

Sorter
03-12-2013, 10:57 AM
FWIW, I know two former WVU players that have stood on the field for every game for the past 10+ years. They both laughed when I asked them about Geno as #1 overall. Both were surprised to hear that he was even considered a first rounder. This was Nov/Dec -so before all the draft hype.

LMAO

patteeu
03-12-2013, 10:58 AM
No, it's an absolutely terrible comparison IMO.

Personally, I think Ryan Leaf is a better one. But Geno is probably more similar to Akili than Ryan in terms of intelligence.

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 10:59 AM
FWIW, I know two former WVU players that have stood on the field for every game for the past 10+ years. They both laughed when I asked them about Geno as #1 overall. Both were surprised to hear that he was even considered a first rounder. This was Nov/Dec -so before all the draft hype.

Kurt Warner seemed impressed,but hey let's go with your two guys standing on the WV sidelines.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:59 AM
FWIW, I know two former WVU players that have stood on the field for every game for the past 10+ years. They both laughed when I asked them about Geno as #1 overall. Both were surprised to hear that he was even considered a first rounder. This was Nov/Dec -so before all the draft hype.

Names.

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 10:59 AM
And others to their attack.

You'd be wrong again.

Mosbonian
03-12-2013, 10:59 AM
Interestingly enough I saw this yesterday.....not sure who was smoking what when they compiled this, but I saw no QB's in the 1st round.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1561444-2013-nfl-mock-draft-projecting-all-32-first-round-picks#/articles/1561444-2013-nfl-mock-draft-projecting-all-32-first-round-picks

patteeu
03-12-2013, 10:59 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say his avi probably influenced your rush to his defense. It's a stupid comparison and I'd say 90% chance influenced by skin color.

So you're stereotyping him on the basis of an avatar? Really?

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 10:59 AM
Personally, I think Ryan Leaf is a better one. But Geno is probably more similar to Akili than Ryan in terms of intelligence.

Jesus Fucking Christ. Now you're comparing him to Ryan Leaf?

B14ckmon
03-12-2013, 10:59 AM
FWIW, I know two former WVU players that have stood on the field for every game for the past 10+ years. They both laughed when I asked them about Geno as #1 overall. Both were surprised to hear that he was even considered a first rounder. This was Nov/Dec -so before all the draft hype.

I'm actually related to every WVU player to have ever played. They all told me you are full of shit.

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 11:00 AM
Personally, I think Ryan Leaf is a better one. But Geno is probably more similar to Akili than Ryan in terms of intelligence.

I don't see that either. I still like my Tim Couch comparison, but it's mine so I'm a tad bias.

duncan_idaho
03-12-2013, 11:00 AM
Ok, that's close enough. I doubt that it's the best possible comparison. I don't know enough to know whether it's a really dumb comparison or not. I just think that the original reaction from the people calling bootlegged racist suggesting that there's absolutely no basis for comparison other than race (when that's obviously not the case) was low class.

QBs Geno Smith has been compared to, at varying times, on this website and others:

Vince Young
Cam Newton
Akili Smith
Pat White
Donovan McNabb
JaMarcus Russell
RGIII

When the best comparisons, if you look at the strengths and weaknesses of Geno Smith, are truly Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers.

That's why so many of us are quick to jump all over someone who compares Geno Smith to a random QB who isn't a good comparison but IS black and decently athletic.

Sorter
03-12-2013, 11:00 AM
Gigantic homer alert. I'd rather have trick shot to be fair. Stanzi 2.0, no interest one way or the other. A. Smith would be happy, he'd be safely ensconced as the starter for life.

I'm no Daniel fan but I was impressed by his play during the pre season (which can mean different things for different people).

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 11:01 AM
Kurt Warner seemed impressed,but hey let's go with your two guys standing on the WV sidelines.

I get it. You love Geno Smith. Nobody else can have an opinion.

patteeu
03-12-2013, 11:01 AM
So you're stereotyping him on the basis of an avatar? Really?

Reading fail.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 11:02 AM
I'm actually related to every WVU player to have ever played. They all told me you are full of shit.

Todd Sauerbrun's cousin. Thought so.

Sorter
03-12-2013, 11:02 AM
Personally, I think Ryan Leaf is a better one. But Geno is probably more similar to Akili than Ryan in terms of intelligence.

Ryan Leaf is so dumb TBG's Av just fucking loses it when Leaf's name is mentioned.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 11:02 AM
Interestingly enough I saw this yesterday.....not sure who was smoking what when they compiled this, but I saw no QB's in the 1st round.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1561444-2013-nfl-mock-draft-projecting-all-32-first-round-picks#/articles/1561444-2013-nfl-mock-draft-projecting-all-32-first-round-picks

Here's the issues with that.

1. It's Bleacher Report.
2. This is in his pick for the Chiefs.

The Chiefs recently released right tackle Eric Winston after a disappointing season, which clears the way for Joeckel to push Branden Albert over to the right side despite his apparent resistance. Still, it would be unlikely for new head coach Andy Reid to draft a guy to play right tackle with the first overall pick.

Dorsey already said that Albert is their LT and the league views him as a LT.

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 11:02 AM
So you're stereotyping him on the basis of an avatar? Really?

Not at all. I'm familiar with the DC land and each other like to defend "their guys".

patteeu
03-12-2013, 11:02 AM
Jesus ****ing Christ. Now you're comparing him to Ryan Leaf?

LMAO :Poke:

BigCatDaddy
03-12-2013, 11:03 AM
I get it. You love Geno Smith. Nobody else can have an opinion.

I'm a QB guy and Geno is the best one in this field. We've hashed this arguement a million times here so I'm not going to do it again.

Frazod
03-12-2013, 11:04 AM
Gigantic homer alert. I'd rather have trick shot to be fair. Stanzi 2.0, no interest one way or the other. A. Smith would be happy, he'd be safely ensconced as the starter for life.

Like I give a fuck about your opinion, cumstain. Shouldn't you be off burning a bible or something?

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 11:04 AM
LMAO :Poke:

Don't do that to me.....you bastard.

mcaj22
03-12-2013, 11:04 AM
catch a glipse of our future QB battle right here in this 2011 preseason juggernaut battle!

you can watch Alex Smith throw 3 yard screen passes on 3rd and long and Chase Daniel run for his life! yippieeeeee Chiefs

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wIpuIhHG-rw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

patteeu
03-12-2013, 11:04 AM
QBs Geno Smith has been compared to, at varying times, on this website and others:

Vince Young
Cam Newton
Akili Smith
Pat White
Donovan McNabb
JaMarcus Russell
RGIII

When the best comparisons, if you look at the strengths and weaknesses of Geno Smith, are truly Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers.

That's why so many of us are quick to jump all over someone who compares Geno Smith to a random QB who isn't a good comparison but IS black and decently athletic.

I wonder how many of the Geno Smith fanatics around here would approve of your Alex Smith comparison.

nychief
03-12-2013, 11:04 AM
You know who Geno smith reminds me of? Sidney Poitier.

Spott
03-12-2013, 11:05 AM
I don't really know if he would fit this offense. He has actually worked very hard and is probably a better fit for an offense like New Orleans, although he won't get to start there unless Brees gets hurt. I think he can have some success in the league, but probably not in KC.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-12-2013, 11:05 AM
LMAO

This board is full of fools whose higher thought processes function as though shrapnel from an IED turned their frontal lobe into a doily. Of those fools, Bootlegged/Lattimer is the dumbest.

If you had a son, the first thought that would go through your head is, "If he's the opposite of that dumbfuck, I've succeeded as a parent."

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 11:05 AM
Here's the issues with that.

1. It's Bleacher Report.
2. This is in his pick for the Chiefs.



Dorsey already said that Albert is their LT and the league views him as a LT.

Here is the issue with your issue. You know nothing about football.

Originally Posted by Pestilence View Post
**** that. Kuechly is basically the only pick that I would be pissed about.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-12-2013, 11:06 AM
I wonder how many of the Geno Smith fanatics around here would approve of your Alex Smith comparison.

I don't think you understand the context of how he was applying strengths and weaknesses.

rabblerouser
03-12-2013, 11:06 AM
So you're stereotyping him on the basis of an avatar? Really?

First racism, now idealogical bigotry...

wonder what's next - totalitarian absolutism!??

look out, CP...

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 11:07 AM
Here is the issue with your issue. You know nothing about football.

Originally Posted by Pestilence View Post
**** that. Kuechly is basically the only pick that I would be pissed about.

Wow. You found one post where I didn't like Kuechly. That proves what?

Go back to the DC.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 11:08 AM
Wow. You found one post where I didn't like Kuechly. That proves what?

Go back to the DC.

It's but a sampling of your lack of knowledge. I'm sure there is more.

patteeu
03-12-2013, 11:08 AM
You know who Geno smith reminds me of? Sidney Poitier.

:LOL:

He reminds me of a President of the United States except that he doesn't throw like a girl.

Pestilence
03-12-2013, 11:09 AM
It's but a sampling of your lack of knowledge. I'm sure there is more.

No...it's a sampling of my opinion. Show your opinion on the fucking draft.

B14ckmon
03-12-2013, 11:09 AM
It's but a sampling of your lack of knowledge. I'm sure there is more.

Shouldn't you be cleaning your guns in your bomb shelter while dressing up your Rand Paul sex doll?

Sorter
03-12-2013, 11:10 AM
This board is full of fools whose higher thought processes function as though shrapnel from an IED turned their frontal lobe into a doily. Of those fools, Bootlegged/Lattimer is the dumbest.

If you had a son, the first thought that would go through your head is, "If he's the opposite of that dumb****, I've succeeded as a parent."

ROFL

patteeu
03-12-2013, 11:10 AM
I don't think you understand the context of how he was applying strengths and weaknesses.

Why? Am I the guy who reacted with hostility to the comparison?

Dave Lane
03-12-2013, 11:10 AM
Like I give a **** about your opinion, cumstain. Shouldn't you be off burning a bible or something?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltwekc8lJ51r2hybuo1_250.gif

Ace Gunner
03-12-2013, 11:11 AM
so the midgets

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-12-2013, 11:13 AM
Why? Am I the guy who reacted with hostility to the comparison?

No, but you assumed that dozens of others would.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 11:13 AM
Shouldn't you be cleaning your guns in your bomb shelter while dressing up your Rand Paul sex doll?

See patteau - it has nothing at all to do with my avatar.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-12-2013, 11:14 AM
ROFL

I'd rather pack my colon with a pound of thermite and launch 20 gross of bottle rockets from my asshole than be in the same room as him while Kate Upton is sucking my dick. That's how worthless that motherfucker is.

B14ckmon
03-12-2013, 11:15 AM
See patteau - it has nothing at all to do with my avatar.

Don't take it personally, I dislike all rednecks.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 11:15 AM
I'd rather pack my colon with a pound of thermite and launch 20 gross of bottle rockets from my asshole than be in the same room as him while Kate Upton is sucking my dick. That's how worthless that mother****er is.

Been saving that one up very long?

patteeu
03-12-2013, 11:16 AM
No, but you assumed that dozens of others would.

I still do. I haven't been overly impressed with the ability of most members of the Geno mafia to function in the realm of nuance.

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 11:17 AM
Don't take it personally, I dislike all rednecks.

Great. Who are you?

Strongside
03-12-2013, 11:17 AM
I'd rather pack my colon with a pound of thermite and launch 20 gross of bottle rockets from my asshole than be in the same room as him while Kate Upton is sucking my dick. That's how worthless that mother****er is.

ROFL wut?

B14ckmon
03-12-2013, 11:19 AM
Great. Who are you?

A random person on an internet forum. Who are you?

Bootlegged
03-12-2013, 11:21 AM
No...it's a sampling of my opinion. Show your opinion on the ****ing draft.

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I have no idea why they would trade up for Barron. There isn't a team in front of them that would take Barron that high.


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He says the Cowboys may try to trade up to #11 from 14 to get Barron.

We could still get our man, and an extra pick.

What would it cost the Cowboys to move up to #11?

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I have no idea why they would trade up for Barron. There isn't a team in front of them that would take Barron that high.


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He says the Cowboys may try to trade up to #11 from 14 to get Barron.

We could still get our man, and an extra pick.

What would it cost the Cowboys to move up to #11?

Considering that I thought that the Bucs would go after Claiborne......

Next?

Once again....where is your opinion on anything draft related?