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KC native
03-12-2013, 11:47 PM
Everyone else gets an official thread, so I want one too.

I've seen several people make mentions of F1 on here. So, I'm giving us a thread. No more Speed bs coverage. NBC looks like they are taking it serious and will have some good coverage.

With DVRs now, it's no longer a pain in the ass to watch the races. So watch them and discuss

And if you don't watch F1. You suck. Best racing on the planet.

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Following is this week’s coverage schedule for the Rolex Australian Grand Prix on NBC Sports Network:

Date Program Time Network
Friday, March 15 Practice #1 12:00 a.m. NBC Sports Network
Friday, March 15 Practice #2 1:30 a.m. NBC Sports Network
Sat., March 16 Qualifying 2 a.m. NBC Sports Network
Sat., March 16 Qualifying Re-Air 1:30 p.m. NBC Sports Network
Sunday, March 17 Australian Grand Prix 1:30 a.m. NBC Sports Network
Sunday, March 17 F1 Extra 4 a.m. NBC Sports Network
Sunday, March 17 Race Re-Air 1 p.m. NBC Sports Network
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More practice times for the entire season can be found here.

2013 FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP SCHEDULE (Subject to change, all times ET):

Date Grand Prix Time Re-Air (NBCSN) Network
Sun., March 17 Australia 1:30 a.m. 1 p.m. NBC Sports Network
Sun., March 24 Malaysia 3:30 a.m. 3 p.m. NBC Sports Network
Sun., April 14 China 2:30 a.m. 1 p.m. NBC Sports Network
Sun., April 21 Bahrain 7:30 a.m. Noon NBC Sports Network
Sun., May 12 Spain 7:30 a.m. 2 p.m. NBC Sports Network
Sun., May 26 Monaco 7:30 a.m. 10:30 a.m. NBC
Sun., June 9 Canada 2 p.m. 7 p.m. NBC
Sun., June 30 United Kingdom 7:30 a.m. Noon CNBC
Sun., July 7 Germany 7:30 a.m. Noon CNBC
Sun., July 28 Hungary 7:30 a.m. 1 p.m. NBC Sports Network
Sun., Aug. 25 Belgium 7:30 a.m. Midnight NBC Sports Network
Sun., Sept. 8 Italy 7:30 a.m. 1 p.m. NBC Sports Network
Sun., Sept. 22 Singapore 7:30 a.m. 1:30 p.m. NBC Sports Network
Sun., Oct. 6 Korea 1:30 a.m. 4 p.m. NBC Sports Network
Sun., Oct. 13 Japan 1:30 a.m. 1 p.m. NBC Sports Network
Sun., Oct. 27 India 5:00 a.m. 1 p.m. NBC Sports Network
Sun., Nov. 3 Abu Dhabi 7:30 a.m. 6 p.m. NBC Sports Network
Sun., Nov. 17 USA (Austin) 1 p.m. 6 p.m. NBC
Sun., Nov. 24 Brazil 11 a.m. 4:30 p.m. NBC

KC native
03-12-2013, 11:48 PM
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F1 Primer: The teams and cars

The F1 rules have been largely stable since 2009. The current generation of cars use 2.4-liter V8 engines which produce around 750bhp.

This is enhanced by the addition of a Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS). This is basically a hybrid engine which gives drivers an extra 80bhp for up to 6.6 seconds per lap.

Another acronym which comes up often in F1 is DRS. The Drag Reduction System was introduced in 2011 to increase overtaking. It allows a driver to lower his rear wing and increase his top speed, but only on designated parts of the circuit and only when they’re within a second of the car in front.

F1′s engine specification has been ‘frozen’ for several years. That has led teams to focus on the aerodynamics of their cars as the best way of improving performance. And the undoubted masters of that at the moment are Red Bull.

Technical director Adrian Newey has been a key part of the team’s dominance of the past three seasons. His unending quest for performance has brought Red Bull in conflict with the sport’s rule makers on several occasions.

A team with the passion and heritage of Ferrari needs no introduction. They are the only outfit who’ve participated in every season of the world championship since its inauguration in 1950.

They wield immense political clout within the sport and their impatience at going four years without any championship silverware is clearly growing.

McLaren’s status as one of the sport’s top teams is belied by the fact that they haven’t won the constructors’ championship for 15 years. Their relationship with engine supplier Mercedes, which began in 1995, appears to be in its twilight phase.

Mercedes returned to F1 as a full factory team in 2010 but have only won one race since. The hiring of Lewis Hamilton from McLaren this year is a clear signal of their intentions.

The Lotus name appears in F1 but it is no longer connected to the sports car maker. The team which was known as Renault until last year have won championships before and are dark horse contenders for success this year.

Sauber mark the 20th anniversary of their arrival in F1 this year. The independent team owned by Peter Sauber is now run by F1′s first female team principal, Monisha Kaltenborn. Fellow independents Williams have multiple championships to their name and ended an eight-year winless streak last season.

Force India has two home races per year: the Indian Grand Prix and the British Grand Prix, the latter held at Silverstone circuit outside their factory gates.

The role of Toro Rosso in F1 is as a junior team for Red Bull who use it to evaluate potential drivers of the future.

There is room for 26 cars in Formula One at present, but only 22 of the spaces are filled. Three new teams entered F1 in 2010 but one of those, HRT, collapsed during the winter. Only Caterham and Marussia remain, and they are yet to score a point in three years.

KC native
03-12-2013, 11:49 PM
.The Formula One world championship is contested by 22 of the best drivers from around the world.

The champions

Red Bull’s Sebastian Vettel (Germany) is shooting for a four consecutive drivers’ championship title, which has only been done twice before in the sport’s 63-year history.

Ferrari’s Fernando Alonso (Spain) is among those trying to stop him. Since winning the 2005 and 2006 titles Alonso has come within a whisker of three more championships in 2007, 2010 and 2012.

Lewis Hamilton has turned his back on the McLaren team which propelled him into F1 and to the 2008 title, and taken over from Schumacher at Mercedes. Fellow Briton Jenson Button, Hamilton’s successor as champion in 2009, remains at McLaren.

And finally there’s Lotus’s enigmatic Kimi Raikkonen (Finland) who won last year on his return from a two-year lay-off which included rally and NASCAR appearances.

Race winners

Mark Webber (Australia) and Felipe Massa (Brazil) have the unenviable task of partnering two of F1′s top talents, Vettel and Alonso respectively.

Nico Rosberg (Germany) and Pastor Maldonado (Venezuela) scored their breakthrough Grand Prix victories last year. Rosberg, son of 1982 world champion Keke, is yet to establish himself as a regular front-runner, and faces a stern challenge from Hamilton this year.

Maldonado’s win was one of few high points in a season which saw too many incidents. The same can be said of Romain Grosjean (France), who was quick but too incident-prone in 2012.

Up-and-comers

One of the most interesting storylines ahead of the 2013 season is how Sergio Perez (Mexico) will fare having been promoted to McLaren in Hamilton’s place.

Another one to watch is Nico Hulkenberg (Germany), who led 30 laps of last year’s season finale in an unfancied Force India. He’s moved to Sauber, and is tipped as a future Ferrari driver.

His fellow German Adrian Sutil returns to F1 following a one-year absence. He is reunited at Force India with 2011 team mate Paul di Resta (Britain), which promises to be an absorbing intra-team battle.

Red Bull junior drivers Jean-Eric Vergne (France) and Daniel Ricciardo (Australia) remain at their junior team Toro Rosso for a second year, bidding for a chance to join the senior team. Sophomore driver Charles Pic (France) moves from Marussia to tail-end rivals Caterham.

Rookies

Five new drivers arrive in the sport this year. You can read more about them in this earlier article:

Bugeater
03-12-2013, 11:55 PM
Schedule in the OP would be helpful. I don't normally watch this but I'd be willing to check it out if I had a clue when it was on.

something cooler
03-12-2013, 11:58 PM
Schedule in the OP would be helpful. I don't normally watch this but I'd be willing to check it out if I had a clue when it was on.

You should've started this thing then.

Bugeater
03-13-2013, 12:01 AM
You should've started this thing then.
I'm not THAT interested in it.

something cooler
03-13-2013, 12:03 AM
I'm not THAT interested in it.

I don't even know how I got in this fucking thread.

Bugeater
03-13-2013, 12:11 AM
I don't even know how I got in this fucking thread.
That generally happens when you click on the thread title on the front page. So ya gonna watch some F1 or not

KC native
03-13-2013, 12:18 AM
Schedule in the OP would be helpful. I don't normally watch this but I'd be willing to check it out if I had a clue when it was on.

Added. Didn't even think of that.

Bugeater
03-13-2013, 12:23 AM
Shit, when you said NBC I thought you meant network NBC. I don't think I have NBC Sports Network.

Dylan
03-13-2013, 12:30 AM
NBC Sports Group has signed a four-year deal with Formula One for the exclusive U.S. media rights to the world's most popular global motorsports series.

The deal that begins next season will air four races on NBC. The remaining 16 races, and all practices and qualifying sessions will be on cable NBC Sports Network in what's expected to total more than 100 hours of annual programming.

All 20 races will be live streamed on NBC Sports Live Extra, the NBC Sports Group’s live-stream platform that is available online at NBCSports.com as well as on mobile and tablet apps.

“We are thrilled to add the top international open-wheel racing series to our already-strong motorsports portfolio,” said Jon Miller, President, Programming, NBC Sports and NBC Sports Network. “Formula 1 is a perfect fit for the NBC Sports Group as it provides content across three platforms — broadcast, cable and digital — for nine months a year with more than 100 hours of premier programming annually.”

The 2013 F1 Grand Prix schedule includes 20 races in 19 countries from March through November, including the Austin, Texas, race on Sunday, Nov. 17 on NBC. The 2013 season begins on Sunday, March 17 in Australia on NBC Sports Network and concludes on Sunday, Nov. 24 in Brazil on NBC. NBC’s first race will be the Grand Prix of Canada, which will be broadcast on Sunday, June 9. The famed Grand Prix of Monaco is scheduled for Sunday, May 26, on NBC Sports Network.

“NBC and its various media assets have a huge profile throughout the United States, and I am obviously delighted to have concluded this agreement. I feel that they will promote Formula One to a level not seen before in the United States,” said Bernie Ecclestone, Formula One Group CEO. “I very much look forward to working with NBC. Together, we will endeavor to broaden the scope of Formula One coverage available to U.S. viewers incorporating additional digital content in particular that has not been available before.”

Cable network Speed had been the U.S. rights holder to F1 for the last 17 years, but told The Associated Press on Friday it had been outbid by another network.

Dylan
03-13-2013, 12:31 AM
F1
Friday, March 15 Practice #1 12:00 a.m. NBC Sports Network
Friday, March 15 Practice #2 1:30 a.m. NBC Sports Network

Sat., March 16 Qualifying 2 a.m. NBC Sports Network
Sat., March 16 Qualifying Re-Air 1:30 p.m. NBC Sports Network

Sunday, March 17 Australian Grand Prix 1:30 a.m. NBC Sports Network
Sunday, March 17 F1 Extra 4 a.m. NBC Sports Network
Sunday, March 17 Race Re-Air 1 p.m. NBC Sports Network

HIChief
03-13-2013, 02:54 AM
I started watching F1 last season. There were some real good races that went right down to the wire. You never knew who was going to win, what with tires and fuel management being major factors. Yeah, I'm looking forward to this season, especially if the Chiefs lay another egg. And, thanks for posting the schedule.

KC native
03-13-2013, 09:38 AM
I started watching F1 last season. There were some real good races that went right down to the wire. You never knew who was going to win, what with tires and fuel management being major factors. Yeah, I'm looking forward to this season, especially if the Chiefs lay another egg. And, thanks for posting the schedule.

No problem. Last season was awesome. I think we're in for something similar due to the planned tire degradation making most of the races 2 stoppers at least.

KC native
03-13-2013, 09:45 AM
Shit, when you said NBC I thought you meant network NBC. I don't think I have NBC Sports Network.

If you have cable/sat and have ESPN and Foxsports you should have it.

something cooler
03-13-2013, 11:24 AM
That generally happens when you click on the thread title on the front page. So ya gonna watch some F1 or not

Probably.

KC native
03-13-2013, 11:30 AM
If any of you have the chance to attend the US race this year, do it. I went to the innuagral race last year and it was a blast. They had everything really well organized. Should only get better.

alpha_omega
03-13-2013, 11:45 AM
Dig it...I am a F1 fan. I will be watching this thread.

This is the best racing on the planet (and now on the Planet).

KC native
03-15-2013, 10:16 AM
Wooooooooooooooo Getting closer.
nfiniti Red Bull Racing’s Sebastian Vettel topped the time sheets in the second Friday practice session for the Australian Grand Prix.

Vettel, who was also quickest in first practice, set the pace with an afternoon lap time of 1m25.908s, 0.264 seconds ahead of the team mate Mark Webber.

Mercedes’ Nico Rosberg finished third despite hitting problems in the final minutes of the session, which resulted in both Rosberg and Hamilton stopping on track with a suspected gearbox failure.

As expected, tyre degradation played a factor in the afternoon practice session, causing a late-session spin for Webber who slid sideways and backwards down the track after losing grip on the exit of Turn 13. Lap times on the short runs also dropped off dramatically after the first flying laps.

Results for the Friday practice sessions are as follows:

Pos. No. Driver Car Best lap Gap Laps
1 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull – Renault 1’25.908 33
2 2 Mark Webber Red Bull – Renault 1’26.172 0.264 31
3 9 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’26.322 0.414 26
4 7 Kimi Raikkonen Lotus – Renault 1’26.361 0.453 38
5 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus – Renault 1’26.680 0.772 32
6 3 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’26.748 0.840 35
7 10 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1’26.772 0.864 28
8 4 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’26.855 0.947 32
9 15 Adrian Sutil Force India – Mercedes 1’27.435 1.527 35
10 11 Nico Hulkenberg Sauber – Ferrari 1’28.187 2.279 34
11 5 Jenson Button McLaren 1’28.294 2.386 30
12 14 Paul di Resta Force India – Mercedes 1’28.311 2.403 37
13 6 Sergio Perez McLaren 1’28.566 2.658 33
14 19 Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso – Ferrari 1’28.627 2.719 31
15 12 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber – Ferrari 1’28.772 2.864 33
16 16 Pastor Maldonado Williams – Renault 1’28.852 2.944 36
17 18 Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso – Ferrari 1’28.968 3.060 36
18 17 Valtteri Bottas Williams – Renault 1’29.386 3.478 39
19 22 Jules Bianchi Marussia – Cosworth 1’29.696 3.788 32
20 20 Charles Pic Caterham – Renault 1’30.165 4.257 37
21 23 Max Chilton Marussia – Cosworth 1’30.600 4.692 36
22 21 Giedo van der Garde Caterham – Renault 1’32.450 6.542 11

theelusiveeightrop
03-15-2013, 10:28 AM
Do naked women drive the cars?

KC native
03-15-2013, 10:34 AM
Do naked women drive the cars?

Nope but damn near naked women stand by them before the race.

Demonpenz
03-15-2013, 11:46 AM
It is a nice change of pace because nascar is in the stoneage as far as technoligy is concerned.

KC native
03-16-2013, 12:08 AM
It is a nice change of pace because nascar is in the stoneage as far as technoligy is concerned.

Holy shit. Is that a serious demonpenz post?

KC native
03-16-2013, 12:08 AM
Qualifying is on NOW.

alpha_omega
03-16-2013, 09:23 PM
Looking forward to it. DVR set...watching it in the morning.

Dylan
03-17-2013, 12:40 AM
I would like to see Vittel make a pass on Sutil - or did he give up that idea?


Live Streaming:

http://www.coolsport.tv/stream7.html

Dylan
03-17-2013, 01:06 AM
Wow. Kimi might have advantage unless his car fails.

I like Kimi - He is the epitome of awesome. The guy is simply a massive driving talent. He gets into any car, is instinctive and gets up to speed with everything quicker than anyone else. Kimi was on his way to NASCAR last year.

Where are the F1 lovers - sleeping? LOL

Dylan
03-17-2013, 01:13 AM
Wow. Alonso is FLYING. I hope he doesn't pass Kimi!

Kimi is leading

Edit: What a move by Hamilton. Passes Sutil (for 5th). I'm not sure if their tires will hold up.

This race was over when Kimi passed Hamilton in the first couple of laps.

3 to go... Let's go Kimi - Hold off Alonso

KIMI WON!

Brilliant performance by the 'Iceman.'

Great job Lotus.

Dylan
03-17-2013, 02:25 AM
Kimi Raikkonen wins season-opening Australian Grand Prix
http://images.brisbanetimes.com.au/2013/03/17/4117114/Prix33-20130317191044166233-620x414.jpg

Raikkonen held off Ferrari's Fernando Alonso of Spain and German Red Bull
world champion Sebastian Vettel at the chequered flag. Raikkonen coasted
to the finish line and beat Alonso by 12.4secs with Vettel a further 9.8secs
away in third.

http://images.theage.com.au/2013/03/17/4117059/art-prixraikkonen-620x349.jpg

alpha_omega
03-17-2013, 07:05 AM
Great race. Congrats to Lotus.

KC native
03-17-2013, 08:37 PM
Kimi is a beast. I loved his radio communcation at the end of the race "SeeItoldyouguyswehadagreatcar"

Championship should be real interesting. Ferrari is starting fast. Red Bull is in their usual form. And Lotus has come out swinging. Raikonnen has a real shot at the driver's championship. Even Mercedes had a good pace. If they get their electrical and gearbox demons figured out quick, Lew Hamilton will be up there too.

Demonpenz
03-17-2013, 09:21 PM
Good race. Wheel to wheel start was better action than I have seen in awhile out of F1. Cars looked good..track looked good...good show.

KC native
03-23-2013, 08:56 PM
Malaysia starts tonight at 2:30 AM.


Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel beat the Ferrari drivers to take pole position in a rain-affected qualifying session for the Malaysian Grand Prix.

The world champion was nearly a second quicker than Felipe Massa, who edged out team-mate Fernando Alonso with the last lap of the session.

Mercedes drivers Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg were fourth and sixth, split by Red Bull's Mark Webber.

Lotus's Kimi Raikkonen was seventh ahead of McLaren's Jenson Button.
Raikkonen was later given a three-place grid penalty for impeding Rosberg and dropped down to 10th place, behind Button, Force India's Adrian Sutil and McLaren's Sergio Perez.

Vettel and the two Ferrari drivers were the three final cars to cross the line in a session that started in the rain and dried throughout, but always stayed too wet for 'slick' dry-weather tyres.

Alonso was first to cross the line, displacing Hamilton as the fastest man, before Vettel beat him by just over a second, and then Massa split them with the final lap.

Vettel and Massa came in for a fresh set of intermediates prior to their final runs, but Alonso elected to stay out.

The Brazilian out-qualified Alonso for the fourth successive race - this time by the margin of 0.14secs.

"We thought it was best come in for new tyres and we confirmed that pretty soon," said Vettel. "I was surprised by the gap in the end."

Massa said: "I don't know if we were able to be second and third in the dry - there were other quick cars like Webber and Kimi.

"It was a good qualifying for us. We took the right decision to stop to change tyres and managed to put a good lap together."

Team-mate Alonso added: "It is a long time since being in the top three, since Hockenheim [in July last year] so it is nice to be back here.

"Starting third gives you the realistic opportunity of a podium and it gives you also the possibility of winning the race. It is a good position to start [from] and we are very happy."

Hamilton lost out by not stopping to fit a fresh set of 'intermediate' tyres.
He said: "Our strategy was to stay out; we thought it would dry up a bit more, but it didn't. But there's lots of positives to take out so I am excited about the race."
The rain hit halfway through the second part of qualifying and Force India's Paul di Resta was one of those to lose out as a result.

The Scot was called in by his team to change tyres and to do so he had to abort a faster lap and by the time he was out on the track again it was raining.

He ended up 15th, behind Lotus's Romain Grosjean, Sauber's Nico Hulkenberg, Toro Rosso's Daniel Ricciardo and the second Sauber of Esteban Gutierrez.

Lotus blamed the failure of their weather radar for Grosjean missing out on the top 10 shoot-out.

Williams continued to struggle, just as they had at the first race of the season in Australia a week ago, with Pastor Maldonado 16th and team-mate Valtteri Bottas 18th after failing to progress beyond the first knock-out session, which was held in the dry.


Top 10 qualifiers:

1. Sebastian Vettel (Ger), Red Bull - 1min 49.674secs
2. Felipe Massa (Bra), Ferrari - 1:50.587
3. Fernando Alonso (Spa), Ferrari - 1:50.727
4. Lewis Hamilton (GB), Mercedes - 1:51.699
5. Mark Webber (Aus), Red Bull - 1:52.244
6. Nico Rosberg (Ger), Mercedes - 1:52.519
7. Kimi Raikkonen (Fin), Lotus - 1:52.970
8. Jenson Button (GB), McLaren - 1:53.175
9. Adrian Sutil (Ger), Force India - 1:53.439
10. Sergio Perez (Mex), McLaren - 1:54.136

Demonpenz
03-23-2013, 08:59 PM
is the race going to be live on TV somewhere? How does Ferrari not kick more dick haha

KC native
03-23-2013, 09:02 PM
is the race going to be live on TV somewhere? How does Ferrari not kick more dick haha

Yea, NBC Sports network. 2:30AM

Dayze
03-23-2013, 09:10 PM
nice; thanks for the scheudle. rep, ...fucker.

Dylan
03-24-2013, 12:21 AM
Malaysia Grand Prix: Whom are you picking?

Alonso
Massa
Kimi

Kimi was given a three-place penalty for blocking Rosberg during qualifying. He starts 10th on the grid - which might be too far back to be on podium.

However, they have to get through the start and you never know what is going to happen with these lastest 2013 tires -

I wonder whom Vettel will defend at the start - Alonso or Massa.

Guess, I am going to set my alarm...

Dylan
03-24-2013, 02:20 AM
WOW ... Alonso is out! Webber clipped his wing -- HUGE mistake by Ferrari, not pitting Alonso..."Ferrari pit crew waiting"


I think Webber also clipped Vettel's wing.

J.C. what a cluster f. Woke me right up! Can't believe that happened.

Nico on the move - coming up on Hamilton...

You're sleeping?

Dylan
03-24-2013, 10:24 AM
RACE RESULTS

The Malaysian Grand Prix
Sepang, Malaysia;
56 laps; 310.408km
24 March 2013

Classified:

Pos Driver Team Time/Gap
1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1h38m56.681s
2. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault + 4.298s
3. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes + 12.181s
4. Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 12.640s
5. Felipe Massa Ferrari + 25.648s
6. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault + 35.564s
7. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault + 48.479s
8. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari + 53.044s
9. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes + 1m12.357s
10. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1m27.124s
11. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault + 1m28.610s
12. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap
13. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth + 1 lap
14. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault + 1 lap
15. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault + 1 lap
16. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth + 2 laps
17. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes + 3 laps
18. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 5 laps
Fastest lap: Perez, 1m39.199s



World Championship standings, round 2:

Drivers:
1. Vettel 40
2. Raikkonen 31
3. Webber 26
4. Hamilton 25
5. Massa 22
6. Alonso 18
7. Rosberg 12
8. Grosjean 9
9. Sutil 6
10. Di Resta 4
11. Hulkenberg 4
12. Button 2
13. Perez 2
14. Vergne 1

alpha_omega
03-24-2013, 09:08 PM
WOW ... Alonso is out! Webber clipped his wing -- HUGE mistake by Ferrari, not pitting Alonso..."Ferrari pit crew

Wow is right. I had read your post before I watched the replay, and I still was surprised when I saw it.

Al Bundy
03-24-2013, 09:36 PM
I know next to nothing about F-1, I swore I just a guy hit some switch the flung him around another car... what the hell was I seeing?

Dylan
03-25-2013, 12:22 AM
Wow is right. I had read your post before I watched the replay, and I still was surprised when I saw it.

Did you hear Vettel defied team orders to win the race over his teammate Weber?

I get it - Formula 1 a team will give an order to their driver to maintain a gap or in nonprofessional terms, not to pass their teammate in managed situations – especially near the end of a race.

I get it - Teams do not want to see both of their drivers racing each other and end up in the fence and giving away points. I get it - if driver #1 is going for the world championship – the team does not want to see driver #2 winning a race and interfering with driver #1 points.

Nevertheless, as a fan I don’t like it – I just want to see the most skilled driver with the best car win. That is all.

Here is a good review of Malaysian Grand Prix review:

Vettel defies team orders to seize victory
Alonso out early
Webber takes lead
“Mark is too slow”
War breaks out at Red Bull
No smiles on the podium

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/03/24/2013-malaysian-grand-prix-review/

Dylan
03-25-2013, 12:27 AM
I know next to nothing about F-1, I swore I just a guy hit some switch the flung him around another car... what the hell was I seeing?

You can be hooked fast on Formula 1. The technology behind an F1 car is so interesting and complex. In this sport, the technical director is more important than the driver is. They employ the best research and development scientists, who make the car.

The only downside, you will have to watch Formula 1 races live - in the middle of the night. Otherwise, you would miss NASCAR races when FOXsports replays F1 in the US.

Dylan
03-25-2013, 01:11 AM
I know next to nothing about F-1, I swore I just a guy hit some switch the flung him around another car... what the hell was I seeing?

It sounds like you are talking about the DRS button that reduces the race car's aerodynamic drag in order to overtake another race car in F1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_reduction_system

KC native
03-25-2013, 09:59 AM
Did you hear Vettel defied team orders to win the race over his teammate Weber?

I get it - Formula 1 a team will give an order to their driver to maintain a gap or in nonprofessional terms, not to pass their teammate in managed situations – especially near the end of a race.

I get it - Teams do not want to see both of their drivers racing each other and end up in the fence and giving away points. I get it - if driver #1 is going for the world championship – the team does not want to see driver #2 winning a race and interfering with driver #1 points.

Nevertheless, as a fan I don’t like it – I just want to see the most skilled driver with the best car win. That is all.

Here is a good review of Malaysian Grand Prix review:

Vettel defies team orders to seize victory
Alonso out early
Webber takes lead
“Mark is too slow”
War breaks out at Red Bull
No smiles on the podium

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/03/24/2013-malaysian-grand-prix-review/

I fell asleep Sat night and watched it last night.

Vettel's move on Webber was bullshit. Webber turned down his engine on team orders and expected Vettel to do the same and not take it to him. If the order to turn down his engine and hold position hadn't been given then Webber would have been pushing and kept the lead. Sneaky German was sneaky.

KC native
03-25-2013, 10:01 AM
You can be hooked fast on Formula 1. The technology behind an F1 car is so interesting and complex. In this sport, the technical director is more important than the driver is. They employ the best research and development scientists, who make the car.

The only downside, you will have to watch Formula 1 races live - in the middle of the night. Otherwise, you would miss NASCAR races when FOXsports replays F1 in the US.

DVR and self discipline is key. If I haven't watched the race yet, I stay off of twitter and instagram.

KC native
03-25-2013, 10:03 AM
There were a ton of pit stop errors by a lot of teams this race. I have never seen anything like yesterday's race and I have been watching F1 religiously for 10-12 years.

Demonpenz
03-27-2013, 03:31 PM
Alonso was full of fail. Weird deal by Vettle. I am not totally sure he just wanted to win at all costs. I think he is confused as what has happened. Sucked for Mark Weber. F1 team orders sucks. F1 is for itself though not for the fans.

KC native
03-27-2013, 08:55 PM
Alonso was full of fail. Weird deal by Vettle. I am not totally sure he just wanted to win at all costs. I think he is confused as what has happened. Sucked for Mark Weber. F1 team orders sucks. F1 is for itself though not for the fans.

Alonso staying out wasn't his call. His team told him to stay out.

Vettel definitely wanted to win at all costs. Immediately after the race in interviews he admitted he fucked up. Red Bull won't do anything about it though. He should be suspended for at least a race.

Demonpenz
03-27-2013, 09:07 PM
I don't know. He just sounded confused. I wish he would either just say YOU GOD DAMN RIGHT I WANTED TO WIN instead of sounding like a dumbass. Although sometimes the drivers can sound like dumbasses simply because English is not their first language.

chefsos
03-28-2013, 03:40 PM
Random bump time. Just saw this and was inspired, no, compelled to post it.

http://i.imgur.com/GAIu7Xs.gif

I don't see that crazy six wheel Tyrrell anywhere though.

KC native
03-28-2013, 06:54 PM
Random bump time. Just saw this and was inspired, no, compelled to post it.

http://i.imgur.com/GAIu7Xs.gif

I don't see that crazy six wheel Tyrrell anywhere though.

I fucking love this gif. Yea, it's not in there. They did have like 4-5 of them when they did the Historic Grand Prix at the F1 race in Austin last November. Shit was cash.

KC native
04-13-2013, 07:11 PM
1:30 AM Tonight.

With the soft tires falling off so quickly, it will be interesting from a tire strategy perspective.

Chinese GP: Lewis Hamilton earns maiden Mercedes pole position

Mercedes driver Lewis Hamilton beat Lotus's Kimi Raikkonen and Ferrari's Fernando Alonso to pole position at the Chinese Grand Prix.

Hamilton was nearly 0.3 seconds quicker than Raikkonen as he took his first pole position for his new Mercedes team.

Team-mate Nico Rosberg was fourth ahead of Ferrari's Felipe Massa.
Sebastian Vettel was ninth as team-mate Mark Webber was disqualified for stopping on track with too little fuel.

The Australian will be thrown to the back of the grid, but has the choice of changing his set-up to enhance his chances of overtaking and starting from the pit lane, as his Red Bull team-mate Vettel did in the same circumstances in Abu Dhabi last November.

The rules dictate that any car that does not make it to the pits has to have enough fuel in it to provide a one-litre sample as well as the amount of fuel required to get it back to the pits from where it stopped.
Webber's had only 150ml left in it when it stopped with what Red Bull initially said was a fuel-pressure problem.

Red Bull said a problem with the fuel bowser, the machine that is used to pump fuel into the car, "caused an incorrect fuel measurement to be delivered to Mark's car".

Webber described the situation as "very disappointing".

Lotus driver Romain Grosjean was sixth ahead of the impressive Daniel Ricciardo's Toro Rosso and McLaren's Jenson Button, who like Vettel used 'medium' tyres in final qualifying in an attempt to gain an advantage in the race.

The drivers ahead of Button and Vettel will all have to pit relatively early to change the fragile 'soft' tyres while the 'mediums' will last around 20 laps.
But Vettel and Button will have to use the 'softs' later in the race.

"Obviously we are on a different strategy," Vettel said. "We will see whether it works tomorrow. But I am confident we did the right thing."

Mercedes team principal Ross Brawn said: "Those on the option will have to stop relatively early. It will be a fascinating race."

Hamilton's performance underlined the pace Mercedes had shown throughout the weekend and he was an impressive 0.377secs quicker than Rosberg, who made a mistake at the final corner.

Hamilton said: "[It's an] incredible feeling, so happy to have our first pole for some time. Ecstatic, the lap was great. I really hope we can carry that into tomorrow.

"[The gap is] really surprising because in [final practice] the Ferraris were really quick and we didn't know if we'd have enough pace."

Raikkonen said: "The gap is quite big still. We don't have that speed right now, we were second. Not too bad. The best I think I have been with the team. We are missing the downforce in the middle sector a bit. [We'll] see what we can do."

Alonso added: "Very happy. The weekend has been very good for us. The car felt competitive from Friday.

"The car is responding well and I think we have a good set-up for the race and if everything goes well we should be able to fight for the podium with both cars which is good for the team."

Qualifying result:

1. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes - 1:34.484
2. Kimi Raikkonen - Lotus - 1:34.761
3. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 1:34.788
4. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes - 1:34.861
5. Felipe Massa - Ferrari - 1:34.933
6. Romain Grosjean - Lotus - 1:35.364
7. Daniel Ricciardo - Toro Rosso - 1:35.998
8. Jenson Button - McLaren - 2:05.673
9. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull
10. Nico Hulkenberg - Sauber

Dylan
04-14-2013, 01:30 AM
Race is on!

Hamilton, Alonso and Kimi so far have been fun to watch.

Hamilton is dropping back.

Wow...Ferrari is hard to beat in the DRS zones

Edit: Webber had a collision Vergne as they were fighting for position.

Webber has a broken front wing.

Edit: No... Kimi gets into the back of Perez (I think it was Perez) - and now has a hole in the nose of his Lotus - damn

Edit: Webber's loses his right rear as it rolls across the road...

Dylan
04-14-2013, 01:56 AM
KC Native:

The Chinese Grand Prix:

They are leaving Kimi out - (damage is not serious) Kimi is right on Hamilton's tail - Looks like Ferrari needs fresh tires if they want to keep up with Hamilton and Kimi.

These cars are moving...Button and Grosjean had a DRS incident - not sure what happened.

Alonso up to second - Alonso passes Hulkenberg on the turn -

Alonso leads again, Vettel running second -

Hard to keep up - there are battles all over the place...they are flying.

Edit: Vettel came in for tires - think they are using a two-stop strategy

Edit: Vettel is fast - He just blew past Massi on the overlap - He's up to sixth (?)

It's now Alonso, Hamilton, Kimi and Button

hahahaha... Button is complaining about the traffic - as Vettel runs him down. Vettel's tires are fresher than Button's tires.

They are running over 200 mph. Hamilton is 4 sec. behind Kimi

Alonso leads by 19 sec. over Vettel and Button - all three still need a final stop. Hamilton is closing in on Kimi - 1.5 sec. behind

Alonso pulled an incredible DRS move in turn 1 (?). This is Alonso's race to lose. He just set the fastest lap. He is running a flawless race. Boy is flying.

Kim has now caught Button (running third), who is now struggling to keep up on old tires.

Edit: Vettel, running second, is trying to stay ahead of Button.

Great battle going on between Kimi and Hamilton - Kimi is running 1.5 sec. ahead of Hamilton and holding his own.

5 laps to go - Alonso is 11 sec. ahead of Kimi and Hamilton - Ferrari has the best car - and Alonso - well, is AWESOME...

Edit: Kimi is 2 sec. behind Alonso! WOW Vettel is closing in on Hamilton - fast.

OMG... What a finish... Alonso wins! Kimi second. Hamilton comes in third. Team Kimi beat him at the final pit stop!

That was very close for Hamilton and Vettel - If Vettel pitted earlier I think he would beat out Hamilton - so close.

Spanish national anthem plays in honor of the winner, Fernando Alonso.

Thrilling finish. Thrilling race!

Enjoy it, Sunday.

KC native
04-14-2013, 03:54 PM
KC Native:



Enjoy it, Sunday.

Yes, it was fantastic. I watched it live but held off for anybody who planned on watching it on their DVRs.

Great race from Fernando (he's my favorite driver, Kimi is #2, Perez #3). Ferrari looks strong. They had incredible pace and they should be the favorites to take Bahrain. Felipe's fall off kind of surprised me. He was real racy for the first half and then just disappeared.

Kimi is Kimi. That guy is one hell of a driver. If you give him a competent car, he will be a factor.

I think Vettel is a little rattled. It will be interesting to see how he performs in Bahrain. Vettel over his whole stretch at Red Bull has had the superior car over the entire field. This year he doesn't have that advantage at the start of the season. He is still a fantastic driver. His run from 10 to 4 was brilliant and if he wouldn't have pushed too hard on that first lap on the soft tires, he might have been able to catch Hamilton.

Bahrain will be fun to watch too.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/14/article-2308838-19489EF5000005DC-598_634x405.jpg

Dylan
04-20-2013, 06:11 PM
Business as usual in that part of the world - No?


Bahrain F1 race to go ahead amid tensions, protests
http://rt.com/files/news/1e/cb/60/00/20.jpg
Bahrain F1 race to go ahead amid tensions, protests

(Reuters) - Bahrain's controversial Formula One race will go ahead on Sunday despite opposition protests and street violence plaguing the island kingdom more than two years after pro-democracy protests began.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/20/us-bahrain-grandprix-idUSBRE93J07V20130420



Anonymous set to shutdown Formula One cars electric systems

HACKERS have allegedly taken control of three websites in Bahrain.
International hacking group Anonymous claimed it disrupted services of two websites of the Bahrain International Exhibition and Convention Centre, www.bahrainexhibitions.com, and the third belonging to Formula One.

"We'll hack #Formula1 cars electronic systems and crash them into one another," it said.

"We are not targeting websites only, we are trying to hack databases, e-mails, so bringing down websites is not all what we do."
The GDN reported earlier an official at the Interior Ministry's Cyber Crime Unit as saying that he was aware of threats against at least three websites by the group.

He said there were similar attempts last year, but added that experts were monitoring the situation and were ready to respond.

The official had said it was difficult to track down hackers targeting websites in Bahrain, but said the majority of attempts appeared to originate in the US.
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=351745


https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1769643466/258844_104131489680984_104118713015595_32268_721285_o__1__normal.jpeg Anonymous @YourAnonNews
Anonymous Op Bahrain | We've Begun The Countdown To Wreckage: Action Begins Friday - April 19, 2013 6:00 AM Manama Standard Time | #ExpectUs

KC native
04-20-2013, 06:27 PM
Business as usual in that part of the world - No?


Bahrain F1 race to go ahead amid tensions, protests
http://rt.com/files/news/1e/cb/60/00/20.jpg
Bahrain F1 race to go ahead amid tensions, protests



http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/20/us-bahrain-grandprix-idUSBRE93J07V20130420



Anonymous set to shutdown Formula One cars electric systems


http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=351745


https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1769643466/258844_104131489680984_104118713015595_32268_721285_o__1__normal.jpeg Anonymous @YourAnonNews
Anonymous Op Bahrain | We've Begun The Countdown To Wreckage: Action Begins Friday - April 19, 2013 6:00 AM Manama Standard Time | #ExpectUs


LOL @ anonymous taking credit for F1's telemetry problems this year. They switched something related to it (vendor or system) and have had multiple problems with telemetry in every race this year.

And of course Bahrain goes on. Ecclestone is a greedy little troll that would never pass by a $30M+ race fee.

Dylan
04-20-2013, 09:07 PM
LOL @ anonymous taking credit for F1's telemetry problems this year. They switched something related to it (vendor or system) and have had multiple problems with telemetry in every race this year.

And of course Bahrain goes on. Ecclestone is a greedy little troll that would never pass by a $30M+ race fee.

Wow. I had no idea a country pays that much money to host a race.

NASCAR's race fees must be $100 per car on Sunday and $50 special on Saturdays.

According the Washington Post, Bahrain pays an estimated $40 million a year to host the Formula One race...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/bahrain-protesters-battle-police-a-day-before-formula-one-race/2013/04/20/5b0298e0-a9f0-11e2-b029-8fb7e977ef71_story.html


Rating Formula One Races by How Fans Might Fare:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/16/sports/autoracing/16iht-srf1prix16.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

KC native
04-20-2013, 10:46 PM
Wow. I had no idea a country pays that much money to host a race.

NASCAR's race fees must be $100 per car on Sunday and $50 special on Saturdays.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/bahrain-protesters-battle-police-a-day-before-formula-one-race/2013/04/20/5b0298e0-a9f0-11e2-b029-8fb7e977ef71_story.html


Rating Formula One Races by How Fans Might Fare:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/16/sports/autoracing/16iht-srf1prix16.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Yes, Ecclestone's greed is a big threat to F1's sustainability. The sanctioning fees are excessive. The way the money is distributed is fucked off and heavily favors the top teams. He lines his pockets with the TV revenue. Less needs to be going in his and CVC's pockets and more needs to be going to ALL constructors. We lost HRT this year because they're broke. Marussia and Caterham are teetering of the brink. Sauber lucked out with giving Perez a shot and having Slim give the team a fuck load of money (which is why Gutierrez is there now).

Dylan
04-21-2013, 12:05 AM
Thank you.

KC native, any reason why or any thoughts on the new Pirelli's this season? I've noticed some teams have had nothing good to say about the tires so far.

And then, finally your thoughts on Lewis Hamilton.

Hamilton writes an exclusive column for BBC Sport. This week he was asked 'to name one driver currently racing in F1 that inspires him in some way'

"Fernando (Alonso), really. He feels to me like he's the most complete driver here. And with pure speed, he is rapid. He is such a quick driver but he's also very, very smart in how he does it. I really admire him for that.

"Fernando is always there. He has been the most consistent driver apart from Sebastian, who has also done an awesome job but he's been in the most dominant car.

"Before I got into F1, Fernando was the driver I most admired. Having driven alongside him and then been in the sport and seen him progress, it remains the same.

"Back in 2007, we were both immature and misbehaved. We took a long time to recover from that. Fernando probably said a lot of things through anger, as I did, and that got twisted and turned in the media which impacted on the fans. So there are people who don't like me and people who don't like him.

"He will go down as a legend. He will win more world championships. And to be in an era when there's a legend and to have him say such positive things about me, is a really cool feeling."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22209168

Hamilton had some very interesting things to say about why 'racing has become more strategic' this season, and on Perez and the way he was driving in the Chinese Grand Prix.

Thanks!

PornChief
04-21-2013, 12:46 AM
Seems like a 100 years ago that I went to Adelaide to see the 1st Australian GP (well, 1st of the modern era at least). That track was the best street circuit ever, and that race had Gods like Mansell, Piquet, Prost, Senna, Rosberg and Berger. I was young and we drank a lot so I don't remember much except I met Prost, he was cool, must have been about 5 feet tall.

PornChief
04-21-2013, 12:47 AM
also, Vettel is gay.

KC native
04-21-2013, 02:33 AM
Thank you.

KC native, any reason why or any thoughts on the new Pirelli's this season? I've noticed some teams have had nothing good to say about the tires so far.

And then, finally your thoughts on Lewis Hamilton.

Hamilton writes an exclusive column for BBC Sport. This week he was asked 'to name one driver currently racing in F1 that inspires him in some way'



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22209168

Hamilton had some very interesting things to say about why 'racing has become more strategic' this season, and on Perez and the way he was driving in the Chinese Grand Prix.

Thanks!

Two of my best friends are Lewis Hamilton fans. I've never been too keen on him. He's a great driver. He's just never really been likeable to me however he has matured and become much more tolerable over the last couple of years.

He is right about Alonso. He is the best driver out there IMO. Vettel is a phenom but Adrian Newey has given him the best car by far for the last 3 years. Ferrari gave Alonso chicken shit to start the year last year and he still managed to challenge for a championship. If ol' Crashy McCrasherson, Romain Grosjean, hadn't put him out on the first lap of one of Alonso's DNFs then Alonso may have won the championship last year.

On Perez, I understand them being ticked but I understand why he was driving that way. Whitmarsh told Perez prior to the race to be a lot more aggressive but McClaren hasn't given Perez the car to be more aggressive with. McClaren's lack of pace has been the real surprise of this year so far to me. Neither Button nor Perez have been able to put together a good race yet.

I love the new tires. It has made the teams react and respond. They can't just hit autopilot. The only teams complaining about the tires right now are the ones that can't get them to work properly. It has lessened the impact of Adrian Newey's aerodynamic dominance which I think is good for the sport.

KC native
04-21-2013, 02:33 AM
Seems like a 100 years ago that I went to Adelaide to see the 1st Australian GP (well, 1st of the modern era at least). That track was the best street circuit ever, and that race had Gods like Mansell, Piquet, Prost, Senna, Rosberg and Berger. I was young and we drank a lot so I don't remember much except I met Prost, he was cool, must have been about 5 feet tall.

That is fucking awesome. lucky bastard.

Dylan
04-21-2013, 11:27 AM
KC native: I really appreciate your willingness to respond to my questions. Thanks!

bandwagonjumper
04-21-2013, 02:21 PM
It might be a stupid question but how do NASCAR and Formula 1 compare? How much do the top drivers earn and could top drivers like Sebastian Vettel and Lewis Hamilton compete in NASCAR?

PornChief
04-21-2013, 04:12 PM
It might be a stupid question but how do NASCAR and Formula 1 compare? How much do the top drivers earn and could top drivers like Sebastian Vettel and Lewis Hamilton compete in NASCAR?

F1 drivers are paid way more, Alonso gets 30m euro, drivers on crap teams get a lot less, around 500,000. Mark Webber gets 10m euro which is about average. They'd make it easily in NASCAR, but that would be like Peyton going to the CFL.

Al Bundy
04-21-2013, 04:39 PM
Good win for Sato in the Indy car series.

KC native
04-21-2013, 08:38 PM
It might be a stupid question but how do NASCAR and Formula 1 compare? How much do the top drivers earn and could top drivers like Sebastian Vettel and Lewis Hamilton compete in NASCAR?

F1 drivers are paid way more, Alonso gets 30m euro, drivers on crap teams get a lot less, around 500,000. Mark Webber gets 10m euro which is about average. They'd make it easily in NASCAR, but that would be like Peyton going to the CFL.

Yea, and that's before sponsorships. F1 top drivers make a fuck ton of money. Michael Schumacher used to pull down more than Michael Jordan when he was at his peak.

KC native
04-21-2013, 08:41 PM
Fantastic race again today.

Alonso showed some grit. 3 pit stops in the first 30 laps because his wing was broken, but still managed to pull out 8th spot.

Perez went out there and gutted it out too. Tough defensive drive and nice finish. Out drove Button by a lot.

Vettel is Vettel. I wish Fernando wouldn't have had the technical problems. Should have been a great fight between them at the front.

Paul Di Resta ran a fantastic finish for himself and Force India. Can't believe he pulled off P4. He was almost on the podium but Crashy McCrasherson pulled out a great race.

KC native
05-11-2013, 10:56 PM
Race is at 6:30 AM CST for the early birds. I will be DVRing this per my usual.

Should be a great race.

Nico Rosberg beat Mercedes team-mate Lewis Hamilton to pole position at the Spanish Grand Prix.

The German took his second consecutive pole by 0.254 seconds from Hamilton, with Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel third ahead of Lotus's Kimi Raikkonen.

Ferrari's Fernando Alonso could manage only fifth on the grid in front of his adoring home fans, just 0.001secs quicker than team-mate Felipe Massa.

McLaren's Jenson Button was only 14th with team-mate Sergio Perez ninth.

Scot Paul di Resta was 10th as the top 10 was completed by Lotus's Romain Grosjean in seventh and Red Bull's Mark Webber in eighth.

Brazilian Massa was subsequently handed a three-place grid penalty for blocking Mark Webber during the Red Bull driver's timed lap in the second session, relegating the Ferrari driver to ninth on the grid.

"Congrats to Nico - really happy for the team," said Hamilton. "It's down to all the great work from the guys at the factory. But we've got to approach tomorrow with caution because it's going to be tough. I didn't have two option tyre sets, but I think Nico was quicker today."

Since 1997, the Spanish Grand Prix has been won from pole position every year bar one, when Vettel won from second in 2011.

But Mercedes have struggled for race pace this year and team principal Ross Brawn sounded doubtful when asked if they could win the grand prix, admitting others had been in better shape during the race-simulation runs in Friday practice.

However, world champion Vettel said: "Mercedes were in a league of their own. We were surprised by the pace they had today. I am happy to sit in third right behind them because they were out of reach.

"I expect them to be strong in the race because they have been quick all year on this track and I expect the people behind to put some pressure on, Lotus and Ferrari. We will have to look after ourselves and our own tyres and then see what we can do."

The improved Toro Rossos of Daniel Ricciardo and Jean-Eric Vergne were 11th and 12th ahead of Force India's Adrian Sutil.

"The car didn't feel too bad in Q1," said Button of his poor qualifying. "I got held up on my lap and lost about 0.3secs in last corner from this morning but then in Q2 I just didn't have the grip on my last run. The tyre pressures came in massively high. We're just looking now to see if they were set properly."

On whether he was surprised by team-mate Sergio Perez's pace, he said: "I am considering where we are. He did a good job, obviously got everything right."
Williams continued to struggle - both cars failed to get past the first knock-out session despite a major upgrade package.

Valtteri Bottas was 17th, 0.058secs ahead of team-mate Pastor Maldonado as the corner-entry instability that has plagued them all year seemed to still be a problem.
Deputy team principal Claire Williams said: "It's not why we come racing to not get drivers into Q2. The boys all work really hard, and we've got to improve. You never panic in these situations. The grid is so tight, we were only one tenth off getting into Q2 so I don't think it's time to panic."

Sauber's Esteban Gutierrez was handed the same punishment as Massa for impeding Kimi Raikkonen and will start the race in 19th position. The Mexican was previously given a five-place grid penalty for the last grand prix in Bahrain for his part in an incident with Adrian Sutil during the Chinese Grand Prix.



Driver Car Team Q1 Q2 Q3
1 Nico Rosberg 9 Mercedes 1:21.913 1:21.776 1:20.718
2 Lewis Hamilton 10 Mercedes 1:21.728 1:21.001 1:20.972
3 Sebastian Vettel 1 Red Bull 1:22.158 1:21.602 1:21.054
4 Kimi Raikkonen 7 Lotus 1:22.210 1:21.676 1:21.177
5 Fernando Alonso 3 Ferrari 1:22.264 1:21.646 1:21.218
6 Felipe Massa 4 Ferrari 1:22.492 1:21.978 1:21.219
7 Romain Grosjean 8 Lotus 1:22.613 1:21.998 1:21.308
8 Mark Webber 2 Red Bull 1:22.342 1:21.718 1:21.570
9 Sergio Perez 6 McLaren 1:23.116 1:21.790 1:22.069
10 Paul Di Resta 14 Force India 1:22.663 1:22.019 1:22.233
11 Daniel Ricciardo 19 Toro Rosso 1:22.905 1:22.127
12 Jean-Eric Vergne 18 Toro Rosso 1:22.775 1:22.166
13 Adrian Sutil 15 Force India 1:22.952 1:22.346
14 Jenson Button 5 McLaren 1:23.166 1:22.355
15 Nico Hulkenberg 11 Sauber 1:23.058 1:22.389
16 Esteban Gutierrez 12 Sauber 1:23.218 1:22.793
17 Valtteri Bottas 17 Williams 1:23.260
18 Pastor Maldonado 16 Williams 1:23.318
19 Giedo van der Garde 21 Caterham 1:24.661
20 Jules Bianchi 22 Marussia 1:24.713
21 Max Chilton 23 Marussia 1:24.996
22 Charles Pic 20 Caterham 1:25.070

Dylan
05-12-2013, 01:21 AM
Sunday, May 12 at 8 a.m. ET - That is better than 6 a.m. :D

Who is going to win the Spanish Grand Prix?

Red Bull have always been strong in Spain. I think Vettel will be hard to beat.

Kimi is strong in Spain. He has won this race twice. Kimi is 10 points behind Vettel after four races. Would like to see him win the race.

Alonso has not won here since 2006-not a good track record. Then again, he finished second last year.

Mercedes - Have they improved their race pace? Not sure.

Pirelli will bring medium and hard compound tires to Spain. Supposedly, they tweaked the hard compound tires so they hold up longer. But will they be durable?

I find the tire strategy confusing...I am not sure how long the driver can push the new tires.

My picks

1st place: Vettel / Kimi - Each driver will receive half a trophy..
2nd Alonso
3rd: Webber

KC native
05-12-2013, 10:52 PM
Finally got around to finishing the race.

Phenomenal drive from Alonso and Massa. Ferrrari decided they would just drive it hard the whole race and make 4 stops. Game changing strategy and it will be interesting to see if they keep it up. The mantra this year has been protect your tires as much as possible and Ferrari said fuck that and went for it. This will make the strategies later in the season much more interesting.

Kimi was Kimi. The mad Fin was excellent as usual. He has a great chance to win the driver's championship. There are mounting rumors that he could be headed to Red Bull to replace Webber next year. I don't know if I see Kimi at Red Bull. He really hated all the extra shit he had to do at Ferrari and Red Bull would have the same requirements for him.

Mercedes is fucked. They can pound out a fast lap to qualify high but they have problems with tire wear and they don't look like they are getting any better. They locked out the front row during qualifying and both Hamilton and Rosberg finished outside the top 5.

McClaren is also in a similar situation. Perez was faster than Button again and they made him stay behind him at the end of the race. Their lack of performance has been the biggest head scratcher of this season.

Donger
05-13-2013, 08:12 AM
The Pirelli tires are just ridiculous. Four stops, really? I read that the guys are so worried about degradation that they are seriously backing off. Something like three seconds a lap SLOWER than GP2 on the same track. That isn't F1.

alpha_omega
05-13-2013, 08:16 AM
Damn...busy weekend and i totally forgot this was on.

Donger
05-13-2013, 08:17 AM
Damn...busy weekend and i totally forgot this was on.

That's okay. It really wasn't a race.

KC native
05-13-2013, 09:29 AM
The Pirelli tires are just ridiculous. Four stops, really? I read that the guys are so worried about degradation that they are seriously backing off. Something like three seconds a lap SLOWER than GP2 on the same track. That isn't F1.

Pirelli gave the FIA what it wanted for F1. After the delaminations this week I think there will be changes to the tires. Most of the races will still probably be 3 stoppers though.

Donger
05-13-2013, 09:42 AM
Pirelli gave the FIA what it wanted for F1. After the delaminations this week I think there will be changes to the tires. Most of the races will still probably be 3 stoppers though.

Yeah, just reading that Hembery pretty much acknowledged that yesterday was stupid and will make the tires harder. It really is a shame. I watched the race by DVR yesterday and I pretty much played it back at 5X speed.

KC native
05-13-2013, 02:23 PM
Yeah, just reading that Hembery pretty much acknowledged that yesterday was stupid and will make the tires harder. It really is a shame. I watched the race by DVR yesterday and I pretty much played it back at 5X speed.

I like the increased degradation but yesterday's race was ridiculous. Monaco with these tires will be interesting.

Donger
05-13-2013, 02:31 PM
I like the increased degradation but yesterday's race was ridiculous. Monaco with these tires will be interesting.

It won't be as bad as Spain. There aren't any high energy corners at Monaco

KC native
05-25-2013, 07:24 PM
Hamilton to pole position

By Andrew Benson
Chief F1 writer in Monaco
Nico Rosberg won a close fight with Mercedes team-mate Lewis Hamilton and the two Red Bulls to take pole position at the Monaco Grand Prix.

It was Rosberg's third consecutive pole position as Sebastian Vettel edged out Red Bull team-mate Mark Webber to take third.

Vettel's title rivals, Lotus's Kimi Raikkonen and Ferrari's Fernando Alonso, were fifth and sixth. McLaren's Sergio Perez and Jenson Button took seventh and ninth.

Force India's Paul di Resta failed to make it past first qualifying and will line up 17th.
Rosberg, who has been the form man all weekend, was just 0.091 seconds quicker than Hamilton. The Englishman edged out Vettel by just 0.013secs.

The first two parts of qualifying were run in mixed conditions, with tyre choice between 'intermediate' tyres and dry-weather slicks tricky. And although the weather dried up for the top 10 shoot-out, and the drivers were able to use slicks throughout, spots of rain did return in the closing minutes.

"The conditions were all over the place," said Rosberg. "Then it started drizzling again so the lap times got a lot slower. It was changing so much - you have to be on the right tyres at the right time. Everything when to plan and the last lap went OK."

Raikkonen and Alonso were separated by just 0.002secs but both were almost a second off pole position.

Completing the top 10, Force India's Adrian Sutil was eighth and Toro Rosso's Jean-Eric Vergne 10th.

"I didn't expect to be here," said Hamilton. "I've been struggling all weekend. The first time I've have that in Monaco. Very happy to be here and lock out the front row."
"I was very close. Mercedes were very quick all weekend," added Vettel. "There was a bit more than a tenth missing and I think I had that today. It didn't come together on the last lap, I can only blame myself for that.

"But I am very happy there is not a Ferrari or Lotus ahead and I think we have a good chance tomorrow to win the race."

The top 10 shoot-out was run in dry conditions after rain affected the first two parts of qualifying.

Caterham's Giedo van der Garde took a career best 15th after making it through first qualifying, helped by Ferrari's Felipe Massa not running.

Ferrari were unable to repair the car in time after the Brazilian had a heavy crash in final practice.

Lotus driver Romain Grosjean, who also crashed in final practice, did just make it out on track and drove extremely well to make it through with just one flying lap.

But he was knocked out in the second session and ended up 13th, blaming traffic. He said he had the pace to qualify on the first two rows.

Force India's Paul di Resta failed to make it past the first knock-out session after his team failed to bring him in for a fresh set of tyres for a quick lap at the end. The Scot ended up 17th.

"I apologise for that; that was a mess," his engineer said over the radio after the session.

Qualifying result:

1. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes - 1:13.876
2. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes - 1:13.967
3. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull - 1:13.980
4 .Mark Webber - Red Bull - 1:14.181
5. Kimi Raikkonen - Lotus - 1:14.822
6. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 1:14.824
7. Sergio Perez - McLaren - 1:15.138
8. Adrian Sutil - Force India - 1:15.383
9. Jenson Button - McLaren - 1:15.647
10. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso - 1:15.703.

KC native
05-25-2013, 07:27 PM
Oh, and expect more Red Bull whining

20 May 2013 Last updated at 10:48 GMT
The FIA reject Pirelli's proposal to go back to last year's tyres

By Andrew Benson
Chief F1 writer

Formula 1's governing body has rejected a proposal from Pirelli to go back to last year's tyres in the wake of concerns over the state of the sport.

After the last race in Spain, Pirelli said it wanted to make changes to the tyres amid complaints their fragility had made tyre-management too important.

It proposed reverting to the tyres run in 2012 but F1's governing body, the FIA, says this would break the rules.

Only changes to prevent the series of recent failures will be allowed.

The FIA said going back to last year's tyres would not be allowed as it amounted to a change of specification.

Article 12.6.3 of the technical regulations dictates that it would require the agreement of all the teams for such a switch to happen.

Another part of the rules, article 12.5.2, gives the FIA leeway to ask the tyre supplier to change the tyre specification if it proves to be "technically unsuitable", but the governing body does not consider this to apply in this case.

World champions Red Bull, who feel that the performance of their car is being held back by needing to look after the tyres, have been pressuring Pirelli to make the tyres more durable.

Mercedes, who are having problems with excessive rear tyre usage, are also keen on a change.

Lotus, Ferrari and Force India, the three teams whose cars use up their tyres the least, do not accept that a change needs to be made.

The FIA has been concerned by the number of tyre failures in recent races and has asked Pirelli to modify the tyres to prevent this happening.

There were four similar failures in the last two races, where tyres that had been cut subsequently overheated and the tread tore off the carcass.

The issue is with the bonding between the tread and the carcass.

Pirelli will have to find a way to make that bond stronger without overly influencing performance. A source said that should not be particularly difficult.

A Pirelli spokeswoman said: "We are looking at what the change will be and trying to minimise its effect, so as not to advantage one team over another.

"We are trying to find the best solution that makes the least change in itself, hopefully will lead to (just) three pit stops, and to prevent the delaminations, which are not a safety issue but which don't look good."

A leading engineer told BBC Sport that the number of pit stops would likely naturally reduce from now on as the first five races were on some of the most demanding tracks in terms of tyre wear. He said that, of the remaining races this season, only Japan's Suzuka circuit compares with Malaysia, Bahrain and Barcelona.

Pirelli entered F1 in 2011 with a remit to supply tyres that wear out and/or degrade at a rate that will guarantee two or three pit stops at most races.

Guide to the tyres in Formula 1

In Spain on 5 May, Ferrari's Fernando Alonso made four pit stops on his way to victory, as did Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel in winning in Malaysia in March.

Alonso and Vettel each made three stops on their way to victory in China and Bahrain, while Lotus's Kimi Raikkonen made two in winning the first race of the season in Australia.
Pirelli has changed the construction and compound of the tyres this year in a way that makes them behave differently.

The teams were all provided with a set of 2013-specification tyres to try at last year's season-ending Brazilian Grand Prix.

Those who are against a change argue that all the teams have had the same data from Pirelli and that it is up to them to adapt their cars to suit the tyres.

KC native
06-09-2013, 12:29 PM
Canadian Grand Prix is on NBC right now. WATCH IT YOU FUCKS

Dylan
06-09-2013, 02:25 PM
Canadian Grand Prix is on NBC right now. WATCH IT YOU FUCKS

Vettel is the new Shumacher -

Three World Championships and only 25 years old...

It does not look like they will slow down any time soon - They have an amazing package.

KC native
06-09-2013, 02:35 PM
So Vettel is the new Shumacher?

It does not look like they will slow down any time soon - They have an amazing package.

Yes. Vettel's success is unprecedented. Just out of curiousity, I want to see how he performs outside of an Adrian Newey car. That's not meant to take anything from him. Mark Webber is in the same car and has not had the same success as Seb.

Prison Bitch
06-09-2013, 03:16 PM
First F1 race I ever watched, and it was boring.

KC native
06-09-2013, 11:45 PM
First F1 race I ever watched, and it was boring.

Because you're a dipshit. Today's race was badass.

Prison Bitch
06-10-2013, 07:26 AM
Because you're a dipshit. Today's race was badass.

Sure, whatever. Pole sitter leads wire to wire, never once threatened, and wins by 15 seconds. If that is "badass" then you have a weird concept of what racing is.

Donger
06-10-2013, 07:56 AM
Yes. Vettel's success is unprecedented.

:spock:

Mark Webber is in the same car and has not had the same success as Seb.

I wouldn't be too sure of that. At least not the exact car.

Donger
06-10-2013, 07:57 AM
Sure, whatever. Pole sitter leads wire to wire, never once threatened, and wins by 15 seconds. If that is "badass" then you have a weird concept of what racing is.

Did you notice the other 21 cars on the track?

alpha_omega
06-10-2013, 08:01 AM
Damn, I missed it again this week.

Prison Bitch
06-10-2013, 08:42 AM
Did you notice the other 21 cars on the track?

Not really, although TV did spend an inordinate amount of time on the 8-9 battle. Pretty engrossing stuff there finding out who would eke out the 8 spot. I just think wire-to-wire winning is lame but maybe you enjoy that type of racing?

Donger
06-10-2013, 08:49 AM
Not really, although TV did spend an inordinate amount of time on the 8-9 battle. Pretty engrossing stuff there finding out who would eke out the 8 spot. I just think wire-to-wire winning is lame but maybe you enjoy that type of racing?

Sure, I enjoy watching the race unfold behind the leader.

Prison Bitch
06-10-2013, 09:22 AM
Sure, I enjoy watching the race unfold behind the leader.

Fair enough. I thought the AFC West race was lame last year but I can see why others might've enjoyed how it unfolded behind the Broncos.


In other news, I do love the look of the Red Bull cars. Probably the best paint jobs in racing history, honestly:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Sebastian_Vettel_overtaking_Mark_Webber_2013_Malaysia_2.jpg/800px-Sebastian_Vettel_overtaking_Mark_Webber_2013_Malaysia_2.jpg

KC native
06-10-2013, 11:55 AM
:spock:



I wouldn't be too sure of that. At least not the exact car.

At his age, it is unprecedented. Youngest 3 time world champion. #3 (IIRC) on all time wins list. He is a machine.

And no, not the exact but similar enough that Webber should be winning more races than he does with a Newey car.

KC native
06-10-2013, 11:55 AM
Damn, I missed it again this week.

Should be rebroadcast a couple times during the week on NBC Sport Network.

KC native
06-10-2013, 11:58 AM
Not really, although TV did spend an inordinate amount of time on the 8-9 battle. Pretty engrossing stuff there finding out who would eke out the 8 spot. I just think wire-to-wire winning is lame but maybe you enjoy that type of racing?

And you missed Alonso's fabulous drive to go from 6th on the grid to 2nd on the podium. DiResta's and Massa's drives were also phenomenal. Even a backmarker team, Scuderia Toro Rosso, put a car in the top 10.

alpha_omega
06-10-2013, 11:58 AM
Should be rebroadcast a couple times during the week on NBC Sport Network.

I had a lot going on this weekend, so i might have missed it anyway...but they need to do a better job of advertising the times/channels.

Thanks, ill be on the lookout for the rebroadcast.

KC native
06-10-2013, 12:06 PM
I had a lot going on this weekend, so i might have missed it anyway...but they need to do a better job of advertising the times/channels.

Thanks, ill be on the lookout for the rebroadcast.

I just set my DVR to record everything F1 and have it as a high priority on the series manager.

Donger
06-10-2013, 12:09 PM
At his age, it is unprecedented. Youngest 3 time world champion. #3 (IIRC) on all time wins list. He is a machine.

And no, not the exact but similar enough that Webber should be winning more races than he does with a Newey car.

Meh, don't care about the age part. Much of his success is because of his car. Friggin Alonso win win every race in a RB.

KC native
06-10-2013, 12:12 PM
Meh, don't care about the age part. Much of his success is because of his car. Friggin Alonso win win every race in a RB.

I agree. Adrian Newey is a genius. Alonso is the best pure driver on the grid IMO.

Donger
06-10-2013, 12:16 PM
I agree. Adrian Newey is a genius. Alonso is the best pure driver on the grid IMO.

Most complete driver (car skill, tire management, intelligence, not seeing "red"). I'd say that Kimi is the most talented car handler. Lewis for sheer speed.

KC native
06-10-2013, 12:27 PM
Most complete driver (car skill, tire management, intelligence, not seeing "red"). I'd say that Kimi is the most talented car handler. Lewis for sheer speed.

I would put Kimi before Lewis. Kimi is a beast. The pace he has pulled out of the Lotus has been nothing short of amazing. If you give him a car that doesn't chew up tires then he always has a shot to win the race.

houstonwhodat
06-10-2013, 12:49 PM
I had a lot going on this weekend, so i might have missed it anyway...but they need to do a better job of advertising the times/channels.

Thanks, ill be on the lookout for the rebroadcast.

Keep a mental note.

Indy 500 weekend is the start of F1 with Monaco.

Every weekend thereafter until it ends.

Donger
06-10-2013, 12:53 PM
Every weekend thereafter until it ends.

That's wrong. There are some GPs that are scheduled consecutive Sundays, some are two Sundays apart, and some up to three weeks between.

For example, the British GP isn't until June 30.

http://www.planetf1.com/race-hub

Donger
06-10-2013, 01:14 PM
Webber icky:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/F0vdLNVLW4E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

houstonwhodat
06-10-2013, 01:21 PM
That's wrong. There are some GPs that are scheduled consecutive Sundays, some are two Sundays apart, and some up to three weeks between.

For example, the British GP isn't until June 30.

http://www.planetf1.com/race-hub


Yeah but you get the idea.

Just start watching beginning Indy weekend.

Donger
06-10-2013, 01:23 PM
Yeah but you get the idea.

Just start watching beginning Indy weekend.

The Formula One season starts in March.

houstonwhodat
06-10-2013, 01:42 PM
The Formula One season starts in March.

Yeah I know.

But I don't start watching until Monaco.

I do like the Melbourne race however.

KC native
06-10-2013, 06:52 PM
Yeah I know.

But I don't start watching until Monaco.

I do like the Melbourne race however.

You're missing great races if that's your starting point. Spain, for example, is awesome.

Donger
06-10-2013, 06:54 PM
Best circuit (track for you mouth breathers)?

Spa.

Donger
06-10-2013, 06:55 PM
Eau Rouge...

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_fpMxuY05IM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Donger
06-10-2013, 06:56 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/K2cNqaPSHv0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

KC native
06-10-2013, 06:59 PM
Best circuit (track for you mouth breathers)?

Spa.

Yes, Eau Rouge is fucking awesome.

KC native
06-10-2013, 07:01 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/K2cNqaPSHv0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

that is awesome. It's staggering how much faster they are. The Ferrari Challenge guys and Porsche GT3 Cup racing that were the support races for F1 in Austin looked like they were go carts in comparison.

JoeyChuckles
06-10-2013, 08:40 PM
Honest question: Saturday night I caught a glimpse of not Nascar cars on a circle race track in Dallas that I thought was interesting. I then tried to watch the Montreal thing yesterday but could not keep interest. What is the difference in the two that I watched?

I've never seen a Nascar race either, so I guess I am just confused in general. Perhaps I should Google it instead.

Donger
06-10-2013, 08:49 PM
that is awesome. It's staggering how much faster they are. The Ferrari Challenge guys and Porsche GT3 Cup racing that were the support races for F1 in Austin looked like they were go carts in comparison.

I'm trying to talk the wife into having a date weekend for the US GP this year. You went last year, yes?

Donger
06-10-2013, 08:51 PM
Honest question: Saturday night I caught a glimpse of not Nascar cars on a circle race track in Dallas that I thought was interesting. I then tried to watch the Montreal thing yesterday but could not keep interest. What is the difference in the two that I watched?

I've never seen a Nascar race either, so I guess I am just confused in general. Perhaps I should Google it instead.

F1 is a very different beast. Honestly, if my Dad hadn't gotten me up at the crack of fucking dawn to watch when I was a boy, I probably wouldn't watch now. It's an acquired taste to be sure. It is the epitome of motorsport, however, at least from a ME standpoint.

houstonwhodat
06-10-2013, 08:53 PM
I'm trying to talk the wife into having a date weekend for the US GP this year. You went last year, yes?

It's in Austin better get a room NOW.

Donger
06-10-2013, 08:54 PM
It's in Austin better get a room NOW.

Getting a room won't be an issue.

PornChief
06-11-2013, 05:19 AM
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PornChief
06-11-2013, 05:31 AM
You can also get the entire Senna movie at Vimeo. The Killer Years got removed from YouTube, seems i have to go to LiveLeak or Vimeo these days to find the best stuff.

KC native
06-11-2013, 01:35 PM
I'm trying to talk the wife into having a date weekend for the US GP this year. You went last year, yes?

Yes, it was phenomenal. The shuttles were on point. The people were welcoming. I was impressed how smooth it went for the first time hosting it. I already have my tickets and will be going back this year too. Should be even more of a blast because there is a UT game that weekend too. Last year 6th St was a little dead when I was there because it was the weekend before Thanksgiving and UT and TCU played on Thanksgiving.

KC native
06-11-2013, 01:38 PM
Honest question: Saturday night I caught a glimpse of not Nascar cars on a circle race track in Dallas that I thought was interesting. I then tried to watch the Montreal thing yesterday but could not keep interest. What is the difference in the two that I watched?

I've never seen a Nascar race either, so I guess I am just confused in general. Perhaps I should Google it instead.

F1 is all about the engineering and precision driving. NASCAR and affiliated series are what are called Spec Series. All the cars must fit a narrow set of specifications. F1, while having more specs recently, allows for whatever type of build as long as it doesn't run afoul of the rules.

KC native
06-11-2013, 01:40 PM
It's in Austin better get a room NOW.

I don't know about that. There were a lot of unsold rooms last year because of how much Austin hotels tried to jack up the prices. A lot of people stayed in San Marcos, New Braunfels, and San Antonio.

KC native
06-11-2013, 01:41 PM
You can also get the entire Senna movie at Vimeo. The Killer Years got removed from YouTube, seems i have to go to LiveLeak or Vimeo these days to find the best stuff.

:thumb: Rush looks like it is going to be a badass movie too.

Prison Bitch
06-11-2013, 01:48 PM
Honest question: Saturday night I caught a glimpse of not Nascar cars on a circle race track in Dallas that I thought was interesting. I then tried to watch the Montreal thing yesterday but could not keep interest. What is the difference in the two that I watched?

I've never seen a Nascar race either, so I guess I am just confused in general. Perhaps I should Google it instead.

F1 is the superior circuit with the superior cars, drivers, technology, purses, and worldwide appeal. It runs on racetracks, Nascar & Indy run on some tracks but mostly ovals. It's whatever you are into.


I've tried for decades to get into road racing but it just pains me to watch it. They never pass.


A friend of mine told me he tried to watch an hour of Montreal Sunday. "It was as boring as another person's dream" he said. F1 has to find a way to get more passing.

Donger
06-11-2013, 01:49 PM
Yes, it was phenomenal. The shuttles were on point. The people were welcoming. I was impressed how smooth it went for the first time hosting it. I already have my tickets and will be going back this year too. Should be even more of a blast because there is a UT game that weekend too. Last year 6th St was a little dead when I was there because it was the weekend before Thanksgiving and UT and TCU played on Thanksgiving.

Thanks.

Donger
06-11-2013, 01:53 PM
F1 is the superior circuit with the superior cars, drivers, technology, purses, and worldwide appeal. It runs on racetracks, Nascar & Indy run on some tracks but mostly ovals. It's whatever you are into.


I've tried for decades to get into road racing but it just pains me to watch it. They never pass.


A friend of mine told me he tried to watch an hour of Montreal Sunday. "It was as boring as another person's dream" he said. F1 has to find a way to get more passing.

Your friend must have fallen asleep then. There were over 20 passes on Sunday. F1 cars are heavily dependent on aerodynamic down force, and "towing" actually upsets the cars' balance horribly.

Now, that being said, I HATE DRS and KERS, which were introduced to aid overtaking.

houstonwhodat
06-11-2013, 02:30 PM
I don't know about that. There were a lot of unsold rooms last year because of how much Austin hotels tried to jack up the prices. A lot of people stayed in San Marcos, New Braunfels, and San Antonio.


Make sure you hit the Salt Lick BBQ when you go next time.

It's SW of Austin in Driftwood.

KC native
06-11-2013, 03:10 PM
Thanks.

No problem. I forgot to even mention the track. It was awesome. There were plenty of good food vendors. It was a little dusty but that should be better by the next race because they will have the landscaping done. I highly recommend it if you are an F1 fan. Oh and be prepared to walk. So wear comfortable shoes.

KC native
06-11-2013, 03:12 PM
Make sure you hit the Salt Lick BBQ when you go next time.

It's SW of Austin in Driftwood.

Yea we tried to make it there but it just didn't work out. Definitely making it by there this time.

houstonwhodat
06-11-2013, 03:41 PM
Yea we tried to make it there but it just didn't work out. Definitely making it by there this time.

Also go to:

Franklin's BBQ - try to get in line before it sells out
Stubbs BBQ - good food and music
Threadgill's - where Janis Joplin started to sing
La Zona Rosa - good blues and former SRV hangout
Antoines - blues and former SRV hangout
Hippy Hollow - naked bitches everywhere
Barton Springs - 68 deg natural spring
Austin City Limits - if you can get tickets
Steve Ray Vaughan Statue - spiritual

KC native
06-11-2013, 04:44 PM
Also go to:

Franklin's BBQ - try to get in line before it sells out
Stubbs BBQ - good food and music
Threadgill's - where Janis Joplin started to sing
La Zona Rosa - good blues and former SRV hangout
Antoines - blues and former SRV hangout
Hippy Hollow - naked bitches everywhere
Barton Springs - 68 deg natural spring
Austin City Limits - if you can get tickets
Steve Ray Vaughan Statue - spiritual

Went to Franklin's. Being from KC, I was not very impressed.

Donger
06-11-2013, 04:47 PM
I've been to County Line on the Hill a few times. Quite good. Nice views (for Texas) too.

HIChief
06-11-2013, 06:12 PM
I am an avid F1 Fan. Well, at least for the past two seasons. That being said, here are some of the things I dislike and like about the race:

Likes- The venues, particularly Spa, Silverstone, and Monaco. I always get nostalgic watching those races. The rivalries between constructors (it's been said Honda will re-enter next season). Felippe Masa and Lewis Hamilton--the two drivers I root for. The driver's women-damn! The car's-eye view and radio comms during the broadcast. The detailed info provided by the announcers about the cars, the rules, and the drivers.

Dislikes- Pirrelli Tires that all cars must use, and the mandatory tire change. Hell, if they're going to have constructors competition, then why not foster competition between the component vendors as well? DRS enabling for the trailing car--that seems unfair. No purse for the drivers--Huh?! The cash prizes all go to the constructors. The endless doting on Redbull's Sebastian Vettle by the announcers. I mean, he's a likeable guy and all, but jeeze!

But, I thoroughly enjoy F1; warts and all!

KC native
06-12-2013, 01:39 AM
I am an avid F1 Fan. Well, at least for the past two seasons. That being said, here are some of the things I dislike and like about the race:

Likes- The venues, particularly Spa, Silverstone, and Monaco. I always get nostalgic watching those races. The rivalries between constructors (it's been said Honda will re-enter next season). Felippe Masa and Lewis Hamilton--the two drivers I root for. The driver's women-damn! The car's-eye view and radio comms during the broadcast. The detailed info provided by the announcers about the cars, the rules, and the drivers.

Dislikes- Pirrelli Tires that all cars must use, and the mandatory tire change. Hell, if they're going to have constructors competition, then why not foster competition between the component vendors as well? DRS enabling for the trailing car--that seems unfair. No purse for the drivers--Huh?! The cash prizes all go to the constructors. The endless doting on Redbull's Sebastian Vettle by the announcers. I mean, he's a likeable guy and all, but jeeze!

But, I thoroughly enjoy F1; warts and all!

:thumb: Nice, I like the tire degradation but it should be reduced a little. Tires are the controversy for now until the constructors find something else to argue about.

Aside from cheering from Lew Ham, you seem like an alright guy.

Ecclestone needs to die though. Fuck that greedy troll.

PornChief
06-12-2013, 02:03 AM
anyone who thinks Vettel is a likeable guy doesn't pay attention.

KC native
06-12-2013, 02:04 AM
anyone who thinks Vettel is a likeable guy doesn't pay attention.

This. He is a prick that knows how to win. Can't fault him for wanting to be first every race though.

PornChief
06-12-2013, 02:11 AM
I don't fault him for wanting to win, they all do or they wouldn't be there. But consistently fucking over your teammates comes back to haunt you someday.

HIChief
06-12-2013, 04:56 PM
:thumb: Nice, I like the tire degradation but it should be reduced a little. Tires are the controversy for now until the constructors find something else to argue about.

Aside from cheering from Lew Ham, you seem like an alright guy.

Ecclestone needs to die though. **** that greedy troll.

My limited understanding of who Ecclestone is gave me the impression he is one of the main underwriters of the sport, and it might not be around today were it not for him. Educate me, please.

HIChief
06-12-2013, 04:59 PM
anyone who thinks Vettel is a likeable guy doesn't pay attention.

I guess NBCS didn't do me any favors by the profile they did on Vettle then. He must have been told to mind his P's and Q's. I'll continue to watch and see what you are talking about. It just seems to me like all the announcers ever do is gush about him. That made me suspicious, but I don't know enough to form a reasoned opinion of him as a driver or a person.

PornChief
06-12-2013, 08:48 PM
Of course Vettel comes across as lovely in interviews and TV appearances, most of them do because they get paid unholy sums by their sponsors etc. It's on the track and in the pits the real dude comes out. He isn't very popular with anyone.
Kimi Raikkonen is the exact opposite, it's hard not to like him and he's probably the most popular driver among his peers. Loose Hamilton used to be an enormous dick but he's grown up some and learned to get over himself.
I'm a Ferrari man and wish they'd get Kimi back, though Alonso is pretty cool. Give Kimi a car equal to Vettel's and I'll put my money on Kimi winning.

PornChief
06-12-2013, 08:54 PM
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2009/def/2009-Ferrari-F60-Kimi-Raikkonen-1600x1200.jpg

KC native
06-12-2013, 11:20 PM
Of course Vettel comes across as lovely in interviews and TV appearances, most of them do because they get paid unholy sums by their sponsors etc. It's on the track and in the pits the real dude comes out. He isn't very popular with anyone.
Kimi Raikkonen is the exact opposite, it's hard not to like him and he's probably the most popular driver among his peers. Loose Hamilton used to be an enormous dick but he's grown up some and learned to get over himself.
I'm a Ferrari man and wish they'd get Kimi back, though Alonso is pretty cool. Give Kimi a car equal to Vettel's and I'll put my money on Kimi winning.

I would love to see a Kimi and Alonso team. I don't think Kimi can handle the Ferrari promotional commitment again. That's a big reason why he quit after winning the championship. Lotus doesn't ask him to do nearly as much as Red Bull and Ferrari would.

I love Kimi though. He is my 2nd favorite driver. I love that he came back to F1.

KC native
06-18-2013, 03:50 PM
Aweseome gif on Alonso's pass on Hamilton from Montreal

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18qenjod1ppongif/ku-xlarge.gif

KC native
06-18-2013, 03:53 PM
My limited understanding of who Ecclestone is gave me the impression he is one of the main underwriters of the sport, and it might not be around today were it not for him. Educate me, please.

Might not be around, but Ecclestone has lined his pockets with F1 money while there are constructors who struggle to find funding every year.

He also sanctions races that should never happen (Bahrain for example) and is unwilling to negotiate substantial reductions to sanctioning fees for historic grand prix.

HIChief
06-30-2013, 04:07 PM
Might not be around, but Ecclestone has lined his pockets with F1 money while there are constructors who struggle to find funding every year.

"... for historic grand prix.

Oh, FIA underwrites the historic races as well? I was thinking about going to Nice, France next year so that I could catch the Monaco De Historiques before the actual GP. Anything I should know before I plunk down the plane fare?

Donger
06-30-2013, 04:09 PM
Well, the British GP was a farce. Nothing like tires exploding to spice up a race...

HIChief
06-30-2013, 04:27 PM
Well, the British GP was a farce. Nothing like tires exploding to spice up a race...

I kind of got discouraged after both my favorites were "blown" out of the race--Hamilton and Masa. Fortunately, it wasn't a total loss, as Vettle and RedBull finally got that dose of bad luck Alonzo said they were due for. And, Nico Rosberg added another win to his 2013 campaign. Gotta hand it to Weber too. That was a brilliant comeback from a lousy start. Though I guess you could argue the cautions helped him.

chefsos
06-30-2013, 04:39 PM
Well, the British GP was a farce. Nothing like tires exploding to spice up a race...Correct me if I'm wrong, but in this thread it must be spelled, "tyres". :)

Anyway, I was watching this race this morning, with Spanish commentary and the typically cryptic F1 graphics, so I was even more clueless about what was going on than I usually am. I couldn't even figure out where they were. I did guess, "Silverstone, maybe..." to myself, so yay me.

The commentators were having a good laugh about Vettel breaking, though. I understood that.

KC native
06-30-2013, 07:22 PM
Well, the British GP was a farce. Nothing like tires exploding to spice up a race...

Just finished it a couple mintues ago. Holy shit. Pirelli really screwed the pooch. Glad to see a dnf for vettel though.

chefsos
11-03-2013, 07:05 AM
Nonsensical Bump!

Just about every Sunday morning I'll flip through the bullshit on TV and often land on F1 on one of my five Spanish language channels (blow me Comcast) and I'll play a little game called, "Where the hell are they this week?"

Well, it's just past halfway through and the place looks kind of exotic, the sun has set and they are night racing. That in and of itself is pretty awesome; never saw that before. So, I guess it's in the Far East. Singapore, maybe? I'm not gonna Google it for a while.

Vettel has a big lead. Never saw THAT before, either:rolleyes:

chefsos
11-03-2013, 07:11 AM
Eh, I think I've got time differences all screwed up. It's probably Monday morning in the Far East. I also see Arabic writing on some signage. So, like, Bahrain or something. Final answer.

Dylan
11-24-2013, 10:55 AM
NBC

Vettel wins fourth World Championship and wins historic ninth consecutive race win in a season-ending Brazilian Grand Prix

Vettel, 26 is the youngest four-time Formula 1 champion.

WhawhaWhat
12-29-2013, 03:21 PM
Michael Schumacher in critical condition after skiing accident (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/29/sport/motorsport/michael-schumacher-skiing-f1-motorsport/index.html)

Michael Schumacher, the most successful driver in Formula One history, is in critical condition after suffering "severe head trauma" in a skiing accident in the French Alps on Sunday, hospital officials said.

KC native
12-29-2013, 09:36 PM
Michael Schumacher in critical condition after skiing accident (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/29/sport/motorsport/michael-schumacher-skiing-f1-motorsport/index.html)

Michael Schumacher, the most successful driver in Formula One history, is in critical condition after suffering "severe head trauma" in a skiing accident in the French Alps on Sunday, hospital officials said.

Sucks. Schumi is who got me into F1. Hope he ends up being ok.

alpha_omega
12-29-2013, 09:41 PM
Wow! hope it turns out ok for him.

GloryDayz
12-29-2013, 09:44 PM
Stunning news. Wow... Awesome race car driver, sad news...

Dylan
12-29-2013, 09:48 PM
Michael Schumacher in critical condition after skiing accident (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/29/sport/motorsport/michael-schumacher-skiing-f1-motorsport/index.html)

Michael Schumacher, the most successful driver in Formula One history, is in critical condition after suffering "severe head trauma" in a skiing accident in the French Alps on Sunday, hospital officials said.

Beyond words, how sad.