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31PriestWay
03-13-2013, 07:22 AM
@JasonLaCanfora: Free agent WR Donnie Avery is visiting the KC Chiefs today

milkshock
03-13-2013, 07:25 AM
that will do

Superturtle
03-13-2013, 07:26 AM
DHB please?

RunKC
03-13-2013, 07:27 AM
Solid WR.

milkshock
03-13-2013, 07:28 AM
could be a solid no.2 guy

wazu
03-13-2013, 07:28 AM
DHB please?

Either would be great. Avery is higher risk/reward.

royr17
03-13-2013, 07:30 AM
Either would be great. Avery is higher risk/reward.

yes, hasnt Avery had injury problems since he entered the nfl with the rams ?

DaKCMan AP
03-13-2013, 07:32 AM
I'd be fine with him or DHB. Both would add speed on the outside.

Don't really want Amendola - the guy just can't stay healthy.

I'm not opposed to Greg Jennings - the guy is only 1 year older than Avery.

All have strikes against them - which is why they're available.

Bootlegged
03-13-2013, 07:34 AM
SPEEEEEEEEED

DaKCMan AP
03-13-2013, 07:34 AM
yes, hasnt Avery had injury problems since he entered the nfl with the rams ?

No. He played his entire rookie year - was voted Rams ROY over Chris Long. Two years later in 2010 he was injured in the 3rd preseason game and missed the entire season. In 2011 he missed half of the year with Tennessee. Last year with Indy he played in all 16 games.

cabletech94
03-13-2013, 07:36 AM
can't teach speed.

you can manufacture it, and you can buy it.

but you can't teach it.

oldandslow
03-13-2013, 07:38 AM
Would be very happy with this. Exactly what we need to stretch the field.

RunKC
03-13-2013, 07:39 AM
Averages 600 yards and 3 TD's in 3 out of 4 years starting 15 or 16 games.

Direckshun
03-13-2013, 07:40 AM
I'd rather have DHB. I don't know. What do I know.

RunKC
03-13-2013, 07:42 AM
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caligula
03-13-2013, 07:53 AM
No matter which metric you choose to use, Avery doesn't come out looking good.

The easiest place to start is his hands. I mentioned this last offseason, but Avery has always struggled with drops. For the last four years, he's never had a drop rate less than 11% (Average this year was about 9%), and this past season he ranked 79th in the league with a drop rate of 16.67%. This wouldn't be as big of a deal if he made the most of his big play ability, but Avery never did.

Of 10 catchable balls Avery was thrown on deep passes, he dropped four of them, the second highest total in the league and the worst drop rate. When he did manage to catch the ball, deep or not, Avery rarely turned the play into something more, averaging just 3.5 yards after the catch per reception (74th in the league and worst among the Colts' top four receivers). On the flip side, you have a guy like Hilton, who caught 10 of his 11 catchable deep passes, and averaged 7.7 YAC, 5th best in the league.

Add it all up, and you get a wide receiver, in Avery, who was 80th in DVOA and 100th in PFF's grades, one of the worst wide receivers in football.

coltsauthority.com/2013-articles/february/donnie-avery-the-wildcat-and-pep-hamilton.html

ChiefMojo
03-13-2013, 08:19 AM
Has had some drop issues and some injury issues BUT is really fast!

To be honest was probably the #1 WR I have had my eye on outside of Mike Wallace (who I knew was going to be to expensive). We desperately need a speed deep threat guy IMO. Avery fits that mold!

Hoover
03-13-2013, 08:24 AM
He seems like a perfect fit for the Reid style offense. Pairing him with Bowe would be nice.

Chiefshrink
03-13-2013, 08:37 AM
Don't really want Amendola - the guy just can't stay healthy.

Add Jennings to that as well.

Mr. Laz
03-13-2013, 10:21 AM
meh ... seems like Avery should be 40 years old by now.

DJ's left nut
03-13-2013, 10:22 AM
I'd rather have DHB.

He's going to take the field. Donnie Avery almost certainly will not.

Avery has wheels and you'd like to think he can provide a good complement to Bowe, but A) his history suggests that he's not as productive as his tools even when he is on the field and B) he's probably not going to be on the field nearly as often as you'd like.

I like DHB better, but ultimately I guess I'd just target whoever comes cheaper and would be willing to work on a 3-year deal that you can ditch after 2.

-King-
03-13-2013, 10:25 AM
He'd be a good 3rd WR. Not 2nd though.
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Mr. Laz
03-13-2013, 10:27 AM
I'd rather have DHB.

He's going to take the field. Donnie Avery almost certainly will not.

Avery has wheels and you'd like to think he can provide a good complement to Bowe, but A) his history suggests that he's not as productive as his tools even when he is on the field and B) he's probably not going to be on the field nearly as often as you'd like.

I like DHB better, but ultimately I guess I'd just target whoever comes cheaper and would be willing to work on a 3-year deal that you can ditch after 2.
The defense has to pay attention to DHB because occasionally he will catch the ball and burn them.

DaKCMan AP
03-13-2013, 10:28 AM
Add Jennings to that as well.

Not the same. Jennings got hurt at the end of 2011 and missed the first half of last season with a groin injury. Prior to that the guy missed a total of 5 games in 5 seasons. Over his career he's averaged 2.3 games missed per year.

Amendola, on the other hand, has played 1 full season in his career and averaged 5.5 games missed per year.

DJ's left nut
03-13-2013, 10:29 AM
He'd be a good 3rd WR. Not 2nd though.
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And in fairness, if you believe in Baldwin, Avery's probably a better fit than DHB.

Avery can excel in the slot and I don't see DHB being a slot-guy; he's not quick enough in and out of his breaks. So if you think Baldwin can be a 45-50 catch; 7-800 yard guy, then Avery in the slot is a better pickup than going after DHB and effectively destroying any value Baldwin may have.

So Avery could potentially be a much better 'overall' addition, but I think DHB would be a better addition in a vacuum.

mcaj22
03-13-2013, 10:31 AM
i think DHB can be a solid #2.

he was a solid #2 on bad Oakland teams so if he got on a team worth a damn, logic does say....

DaKCMan AP
03-13-2013, 10:32 AM
I'd rather have DHB.

He's going to take the field. Donnie Avery almost certainly will not.

Avery has wheels and you'd like to think he can provide a good complement to Bowe, but A) his history suggests that he's not as productive as his tools even when he is on the field and B) he's probably not going to be on the field nearly as often as you'd like.

I like DHB better, but ultimately I guess I'd just target whoever comes cheaper and would be willing to work on a 3-year deal that you can ditch after 2.

I think Avery's injury concern is overstated. He blew out his knee in 2010 and missed the entire season. The following year he only played in 8 out of 16 games for Tennessee. Last year he was back to form and played in all 16 games for Indy.

I'd be fine with Avery or DHB, but I think Avery fills our need for speed on the outside to stretch the field. I haven't given up on Baldwin......yet, and DHB is similar to his size (much faster, though) & doesn't have the greatest hands.

ChiefMojo
03-13-2013, 10:32 AM
I'm looking at Avery as the #3 and a replacement to Breaston. Reason I would really like the signing.

Rausch
03-13-2013, 10:33 AM
And in fairness, if you believe in Baldwin, Avery's probably a better fit than DHB

I have no faith at all in Baldwin.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-13-2013, 10:33 AM
I'm looking at Avery as the #3 and a replacement to Breaston. Reason I would really like the signing.

Agree if the price is right.

mcaj22
03-13-2013, 10:34 AM
you know damn well they are going to overpay for even Donnie Avery lol

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-13-2013, 10:37 AM
you know damn well they are going to overpay for even Donnie Avery lol

You do know that all those deals last night the chiefs can get out of them easy?

Mr. Laz
03-13-2013, 10:38 AM
3 years, 27 million!!!

Rausch
03-13-2013, 10:38 AM
you know damn well they are going to overpay for even Donnie Avery lol

After about 8 years of pocketing cash and giving fans the finger I'm just fine with overpaying for a year or two...

DJ's left nut
03-13-2013, 10:39 AM
I think Avery's injury concern is overstated. He blew out his knee in 2010 and missed the entire season. The following year he only played in 8 out of 16 games for Tennessee. Last year he was back to form and played in all 16 games for Indy.

I'd be fine with Avery or DHB, but I think Avery fills our need for speed on the outside to stretch the field. I haven't given up on Baldwin......yet, and DHB is similar to his size (much faster, though) & doesn't have the greatest hands.

Avery has awful hands, for whatever that's worth.

mcaj22
03-13-2013, 10:40 AM
After about 8 years of pocketing cash and giving fans the finger I'm just fine with overpaying for a year or two...

they were like the #1 cash spending team under Scooter for that 2-14 squad

wazu
03-13-2013, 10:46 AM
Wow, didn't realize DHB is 2.5 years younger than Avery. Similar career stats.

DaKCMan AP
03-13-2013, 10:49 AM
Avery has awful hands, for whatever that's worth.

They all have marks against them, otherwise they'd be getting $10mil+ deals like Wallace, Bowe, Harvin.

silver5liter
03-13-2013, 10:50 AM
Had no idea he was only 28. Seems like hes been in the league for a while.

okcchief
03-13-2013, 10:51 AM
DHB and Avery are about the same in my book. Either gives you a guy that can stretch the field, and both have questionable hands. Not bummed or thrilled about either.

DJ's left nut
03-13-2013, 10:55 AM
They all have marks against them, otherwise they'd be getting $10mil+ deals like Wallace, Bowe, Harvin.

Oh I know; I was just pointing out that when you cite DHB's unsteady hands as a mark against him, you should probably not use it to try to distinguish between the two.

Avery's are as bad or worse.

BigCatDaddy
03-13-2013, 10:55 AM
At this point I'd take Avery and DHB. We basically only have 1 WR.

silver5liter
03-13-2013, 11:06 AM
@AdamSchefter: Former Colts WR Donnie Avery signing with KC Chiefs.

Mr. Laz
03-13-2013, 11:07 AM
3 years, 27 million!!!

c'mon say it ... you know it's going to happen.


LMAO

DTLB58
03-13-2013, 11:15 AM
I'm looking at Avery as the #3 and a replacement to Breaston. Reason I would really like the signing.

Exactly.