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31PriestWay
03-15-2013, 11:26 AM
@AdamSchefter: Now official... RT @GeoffSchwartz76: Excited to officially be a new member of the @kcchiefs!

Mr. Laz
03-15-2013, 11:26 AM
hope he's good!!

lcarus
03-15-2013, 11:26 AM
nice!

tyton75
03-15-2013, 11:27 AM
We need to change the name of the Lounge back to something more freaking positive! This front office is kicking ass and taking names!

Bump
03-15-2013, 11:27 AM
can we still haz #1 pick at LT?

ptlyon
03-15-2013, 11:27 AM
hope he doesn't suck!!

FYP

DaKCMan AP
03-15-2013, 11:27 AM
PBJ PBJ PBJ


L'Chaim

OrtonsPiercedTaint
03-15-2013, 11:27 AM
JETSIFICATION -shit wrong big man that's DEVITO

Mr. Flopnuts
03-15-2013, 11:28 AM
Beautiful. Great signing.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 11:28 AM
They are building a team that will not count on the first overall pick at all the first year.

I wonder why..... :spock:

Answer:

Andy Reid is all in on qbs and isn't done at the position. PBJPBJPBJ

KCrockaholic
03-15-2013, 11:28 AM
Glorious. And he's a good player.

KCrockaholic
03-15-2013, 11:28 AM
They are building a team that will not count on the first overall pick at all the first year.

I wonder why..... :spock:

Answer:

Andy Reid is all in on qbs and isn't done at the position.

I love the words you say.

31PriestWay
03-15-2013, 11:28 AM
Hey Teicher I thought we were done in Free Agency

ptlyon
03-15-2013, 11:30 AM
This front office is kicking ass and taking names!

Can we call it that?

Actually, I'm not sure we can truthfully call it that when the two qbs traded for suck.

oldandslow
03-15-2013, 11:30 AM
Hey Teicher I thought we were done in Free Agency

Seriously, no one knows what Dorsey/Reid are gonna do...***** did nothing but enforce rules about silence.

Dorsey/Reid just let the actions speak for themselves.

Detoxing
03-15-2013, 11:30 AM
They are building a team that will not count on the first overall pick at all the first year.

I wonder why..... :spock:

Answer:

Andy Reid is all in on qbs and isn't done at the position. PBJPBJPBJ

Hold on to that hope. I am too.

Mr. Laz
03-15-2013, 11:31 AM
They are building a team that will not count on the first overall pick at all the first year.

I wonder why..... :spock:

Answer:

Andy Reid is all in on qbs and isn't done at the position. PBJPBJPBJ
The more holes they fill in free agency, the greater the possibility that you could be correct. :thumb:

Dante84
03-15-2013, 11:31 AM
Hey Teicher I thought we were done in Free Agency

HEY

TEICHER

LEAVE THOSE CHIEFS ALONE

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 11:31 AM
1 year deal

Direckshun
03-15-2013, 11:31 AM
My fear is twofold:

1. That they'd still like to draft an offensive tackle, because they still think Albert's a lost cause.

and

2. That would mean Schwartz was signed as a guard, thereby invalidating TWO high OL picks we made in 2012.

MrGiggity
03-15-2013, 11:31 AM
Boner!

B14ckmon
03-15-2013, 11:32 AM
Depth pick. The guy isn't a starter.

ptlyon
03-15-2013, 11:32 AM
I love the words you say.

He uses his mouth prettier than a $20 whore!

Direckshun
03-15-2013, 11:32 AM
1 year deal

Is it?

Hog Farmer
03-15-2013, 11:32 AM
In need of a LB and kick return guy now.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 11:33 AM
How are we still signing players?

We have to be close to the cap by now.

WhitiE
03-15-2013, 11:33 AM
HEY

TEICHER

LEAVE THOSE CHIEFS ALONE

Wow :clap:

Mr. Laz
03-15-2013, 11:33 AM
now all the Chiefs fans on twitter should follow him and make him feel the love.

:)


https://twitter.com/GeoffSchwartz76

B14ckmon
03-15-2013, 11:33 AM
How are we still signing players?

We have to be close to the cap by now.

Depth player. Costs peanuts.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 11:33 AM
Depth pick. The guy isn't a starter.

I bet you shed a tear while typing this.

Frosty
03-15-2013, 11:33 AM
We need to change the name of the Lounge back to something more freaking positive! This front office is kicking ass and taking names!

The "May the Schwartz Be With You" Lounge

KC_Lee
03-15-2013, 11:33 AM
How are we still signing players?

We have to be close to the cap by now.

Magic? Aliens? Magical Aliens?

Hog Farmer
03-15-2013, 11:34 AM
Depth pick. The guy isn't a starter.


Niether was your MOM !

B14ckmon
03-15-2013, 11:34 AM
I bet you shed a tear while typing this.

Why? The guy hasn't started an NFL game since 2010, and he was awful.

KC Tattoo
03-15-2013, 11:35 AM
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Mr. Laz
03-15-2013, 11:35 AM
Depth player. Costs peanuts.

I gave your mom some great 'depth' the other night.


:hump:

saphojunkie
03-15-2013, 11:35 AM
Geno or trade.

Been saying it for weeks, and just like the national media starting to admit that Geno is worth #1, so too will the planeteers eventually understand that there will be MULTIPLE offers for our first pick.

Geno or trade. I am going to be cautiously optimistic from now on.

Pawnmower
03-15-2013, 11:35 AM
NICE! Now we wont have to draft an OL unless albert is walking after this season???

B14ckmon
03-15-2013, 11:36 AM
NICE! Now we wont have to draft an OL unless albert is walking after this season???

Once again, the guy isn't a starter.

saphojunkie
03-15-2013, 11:36 AM
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LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Just...perfect.

notorious
03-15-2013, 11:37 AM
Just wait. When we draft Geno Smith this place will go nuts.

saphojunkie
03-15-2013, 11:37 AM
Once again, the guy isn't a starter.

No one cares about your opinion on a player you heard of for the first time 8 minutes ago.

scott free
03-15-2013, 11:37 AM
I gave your mom some great 'depth' the other night.


:hump:

LMAO

Dude is a classic troll.

Pawnmower
03-15-2013, 11:37 AM
Once again, the guy isn't a starter.

oh. fml.

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 11:38 AM
Depth pick. The guy isn't a starter.

He will start. Probably at LG

oldandslow
03-15-2013, 11:38 AM
Just wait. When we draft Geno Smith this place will go nuts.

So much crow will have to be eaten they just might go extint lol

Pawnmower
03-15-2013, 11:38 AM
Just wait. When we draft Geno Smith this place will go nuts.

PANDEMONIUM

BossChief
03-15-2013, 11:39 AM
Joeckel/Fisher? Nah, we have Albert and signed our right tackle in free agency

A DE? Nah we just spent 10 million on 2 DEs in FA

OLB? Hali and Houston...Nuff said.

Corner? Ask Sean Smith and Danta Robinson

WR? Who?

RB? Haha

Seriously, how do we NOT take Geno with intentions of sitting him between one and two seasons to learn Andy Reids complicated system?

NOBODY else offers the reward to overall team impact.

Carlota69
03-15-2013, 11:39 AM
No one cares about your opinion on a player you heard of for the first time 8 minutes ago.
LMAO

DaKCMan AP
03-15-2013, 11:40 AM
The "May the Schwartz Be With You" Lounge

Salute Your Schwartz

http://www.feistees.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/anwna.jpg

notorious
03-15-2013, 11:40 AM
So much crow will have to be eaten they just might go extint lol

I don't know if it is the right or wrong move, but for the second time in YEARS (first being Pioli getting fired), this place will be happy at the same time.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 11:41 AM
He will start. Probably at LG

Haha

A 6'7" 335 pound left guard?

Carlota69
03-15-2013, 11:41 AM
Joeckel/Fisher? Nah, we have Albert and signed our right tackle in free agency

A DE? Nah we just spent 10 million on 2 DEs in FA

OLB? Hali and Houston...Nuff said.

Corner? Ask Sean Smith and Danta Robinson

WR? Who?

RB? Haha

Seriously, how do we NOT take Geno with intentions of sitting him between one and two seasons to learn Andy Reids complicated system?

NOBODY else offers the reward to overall team impact.

There is hope for sure!:p

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 11:41 AM
Joeckel/Fisher? Nah, we have Albert and signed our right tackle in free agency

A DE? Nah we just spent 10 million on 2 DEs in FA

OLB? Hali and Houston...Nuff said.

Corner? Ask Sean Smith and Danta Robinson

WR? Who?

RB? Haha

Seriously, how do we NOT take Geno with intentions of sitting him between one and two seasons to learn Andy Reids complicated system?

NOBODY else offers the reward to overall team impact.

2 OT on 1 year deals

WayneBowe
03-15-2013, 11:44 AM
They are building a team that will not count on the first overall pick at all the first year.

I wonder why..... :spock:

Answer:

Andy Reid is all in on qbs and isn't done at the position. PBJPBJPBJ

Stealing your words in 3,2,1... (Twitter)

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 11:44 AM
Haha

A 6'7" 335 pound left guard?


Geoff Schwartz - T - Chiefs

Chiefs agreed to terms with G/T Geoff Schwartz, formerly of the Vikings.
Schwartz appeared in 13 games as a reserve last season after losing the Vikings' right guard job to Brandon Fusco. Schwartz missed all of 2011 with a hip injury, but was a 16-game starter for the Panthers in 2010, primarily at right guard. He'll be a swing man off the Chiefs' bench, and could start in a pinch.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 11:44 AM
Nothing not to like here. He hasn't played many snaps the rest of his career.

http://i.imgur.com/L1vvX6T.jpg

Why? The guy hasn't started an NFL game since 2010, and he was awful.

Awful?

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 11:45 AM
My fear is twofold:

1. That they'd still like to draft an offensive tackle, because they still think Albert's a lost cause.

and

2. That would mean Schwartz was signed as a guard, thereby invalidating TWO high OL picks we made in 2012.

I bet that Dorsey is waiting to see what kind of contract that Long gets. That will determine where Albert sits.

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 11:46 AM
Albert - Asamoah - Hudson - Schwartz - Allen

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 11:46 AM
Awful?

Hes acting like he knows him...

BossChief
03-15-2013, 11:46 AM
2 OT on 1 year deals

And 2 more developmental guys in Allan (who the team likes at RT) and Stephonson that we drafted in the second and third round very recently.

Bowser
03-15-2013, 11:47 AM
Depth pick. The guy isn't a starter.

Can you feel Geno just becoming less and less of a reality for you?

At least you have your Bridgewater sig.

Frosty
03-15-2013, 11:47 AM
I think Schwartz is probably insurance in case Allen doesn't get it done at RT. If Allen does well there, Asamoah could move to LG and Schwartz could play RG. I imagine they will still go with a guard or center later in the draft, too.

Mr. Laz
03-15-2013, 11:48 AM
Albert - Asamoah - Hudson - Schwartz - Allen
Allen at Right tackle?


If Schwartz does go to guard then i think it would be Donaldson at RT

DaKCMan AP
03-15-2013, 11:49 AM
Allen at Right tackle?


If Schwartz does go to guard then i think it would be Donaldson at RT

Is Donaldson half has good as Donald Stephenson?

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 11:49 AM
Allen at Right tackle?


If Schwartz does go to guard then i think it would be Donaldson at RT

It's Stephenson.

And Allen can play both LT and RT. Allen at LG was another Pioli failure.

Mr. Laz
03-15-2013, 11:50 AM
Is Donaldson half has good as Donald Stephenson?

LMAO

BossChief
03-15-2013, 11:50 AM
I bet that Dorsey is waiting to see what kind of contract that Long gets. That will determine where Albert sits.
Exactly. John Dorsey has flat out said that he is trying to get Albert signed long term. They just want it to be a fair deal.

Direckshun
03-15-2013, 11:50 AM
Stephen Donaldson just needs a chance.

Frosty
03-15-2013, 11:50 AM
Allen at Right tackle?


If Schwartz does go to guard then i think it would be Donaldson at RT

The Bad Guy said his source says the Chiefs view Allen as the RT to replace Winston.

Bowser
03-15-2013, 11:51 AM
Stephen Donaldson just needs a chance.

Can he play (insert CP position of choice here)?

Bootlegged
03-15-2013, 11:51 AM
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KCUnited
03-15-2013, 11:52 AM
I like Tackleson at Guard.

Kerberos
03-15-2013, 11:53 AM
Boner!

They signed him too?

Frosty
03-15-2013, 11:55 AM
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Man, I totally forgot he was a Duck.

NM, I hate this signing. :mad:

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 11:56 AM
I'm pretty sure this is just a depth signing. If Reid values tackles as much as people say he does, then this guy probably isn't the RT, because he's more of a run blocker than a pass blocker.

He didn't start any games in Minnesota last year, so this is almost certainly not to start. I have a feeling they see him as a swing guard and emergency tackle.

Albert
Asamoah
Allen
Hudson
Schwartz
Stephenson

Still points to Joeckel at 1.1.

Mr. Laz
03-15-2013, 11:57 AM
I'm pretty sure this is just a depth signing. If Reid values tackles as much as people say he does, then this guy probably isn't the RT, because he's more of a run blocker than a pass blocker.

He didn't start any games in Minnesota last year, so this is almost certainly not to start. I have a feeling they see him as a swing guard and emergency tackle.

Albert
Asamoah
Allen
Hudson
Schwartz
Stephenson

Still points to Joeckel at 1.1.
why are you anti-Geno?

Ceej
03-15-2013, 11:57 AM
Can we just trot out all linemen out there?

Have Alex Smith hand the ball off to JC every snap.

Christ almighty.

DTHOF
03-15-2013, 11:58 AM
peehole talked the talk but AR and Dorsey are walking the walk. So this is what the anit-Patriot Way looks like. I ike it

BossChief
03-15-2013, 11:58 AM
MOTHERFUCK YOU, HAMAS JENKINS!

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 11:59 AM
why are you anti-Geno?

Because I hate freedom and love the terrorists

QuikSsurfer
03-15-2013, 12:00 PM
No one cares about your opinion on a player you heard of for the first time 8 minutes ago.

I said god damn!

DTLB58
03-15-2013, 12:00 PM
13.20 SIGNING! Another player announcement with Geoff Schwartz announcing on twitter that he has signed with the Kansas City Chiefs. Schwartz was bizarrely underused with the Vikings this past season who made it clear they wanted Brandon Fusco at right guard for the long term even though Schwartz outperformed him whenever he was given snaps on the field. For the season Schwartz earned a +5.8 grade on 160 snaps and figures to have the chance to win a starting job in Kansas City under new head coach Andy Reid. Though hampered by injuries Schwartz has always graded well when he has been on the field and if given a fair chance should earn a starting job with the Chiefs and upgrade either of their guard spots. Jon Asamoah was impressive (+15.0) at right guard this past season so the vulnerable member of that interior figures to be last year’s rookie left guard Jeff Allen who earned a -19.5 grade for the season. However under new stewardship this interior could be somewhat in flux with starting spots up for grabs.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/03/15/2013-free-agency-live-blog-day-4/

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 12:02 PM
It's going to be Asamoah and Schwartz starting at the guard positions. It's just a matter of which one goes where.

Goldmember
03-15-2013, 12:03 PM
he shoulda been a docta

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 12:03 PM
It's going to be Asamoah and Schwartz starting at the guard positions. It's just a matter of which one goes where.

Most likely scenario. That Allen pick was just awful.

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 12:04 PM
Most likely scenario. That Allen pick was just awful.

Not if you let Allen and Stephenson battle it out for RT.....which is what I think is going to happen.

PGM
03-15-2013, 12:04 PM
Solid signing.

Piss off Cockmon

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 12:06 PM
Not if you let Allen and Stephenson battle it out for RT.....which is what I think is going to happen.

When Stephenson wins - and he'll probably win - then the pick officially becomes awful.

There was a ton of talent on the board when he came off; that pick was poor from the second it was made.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 12:06 PM
Not if you let Allen and Stephenson battle it out for RT.....which is what I think is going to happen.

Is that what you think will happen or what you want to happen?

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 12:07 PM
Is that what you think will happen or what you want to happen?

It's 50/50. The Bad Guy said that his source claims that they view Allen as a RT. Whether there is truth to that....I don't know. But Allen would be a better fit as a RT than he would be at OG.

TEX
03-15-2013, 12:09 PM
FUCK YOU FAT SCOTT - THIS is how FREE AGENCY is supposed to WORK! Totally opposite from the Patriot, I mean Tom Brady way...

DTLB58
03-15-2013, 12:09 PM
Sam Munson of PFF said he thinks Schwartz is a Pro Bowl caliber OG now that he is 100% healthy. Per 610.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 12:09 PM
It's 50/50. The Bad Guy said that his source claims that they view Allen as a RT. Whether there is truth to that....I don't know. But Allen would be a better fit as a RT than he would be at OG.

This.

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 12:14 PM
this is a GREAT signing. underrated player. We should have signed him last year but Scooter ya know, awful at everything

i love this new FO going out and getting it

i also love that players want to come in and PLAY for Andy Reid and his gang of merry misfits. Awesome to have a coach that isnt a bumbling idiot from a high bro club of coaching frauds thanks to backing into a once in a NFL lifetime late round QB that keep a bunch of idiots employed for longer than they should have

HemiEd
03-15-2013, 12:15 PM
Joeckel/Fisher? Nah, we have Albert and signed our right tackle in free agency

A DE? Nah we just spent 10 million on 2 DEs in FA

OLB? Hali and Houston...Nuff said.

Corner? Ask Sean Smith and Danta Robinson

WR? Who?

RB? Haha

Seriously, how do we NOT take Geno with intentions of sitting him between one and two seasons to learn Andy Reids complicated system?

NOBODY else offers the reward to overall team impact.

I want to believe this so bad, but this roller coaster has too many ups and downs, so I am going to just watch and hope for a while.

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 12:17 PM
Joeckel/Fisher? Nah, we have Albert and signed our right tackle in free agency

A DE? Nah we just spent 10 million on 2 DEs in FA

OLB? Hali and Houston...Nuff said.

Corner? Ask Sean Smith and Danta Robinson

WR? Who?

RB? Haha

Seriously, how do we NOT take Geno with intentions of sitting him between one and two seasons to learn Andy Reids complicated system?

NOBODY else offers the reward to overall team impact.


we definitely still need a real starting DE and or an ILB

those are musts and clear needs

BossChief
03-15-2013, 12:17 PM
The truth I that there is very little chance we draft Geno...but it's fun to dream until its official.

PGM
03-15-2013, 12:18 PM
this is a GREAT signing. underrated player. We should have signed him last year but Scooter ya know, awful at everything

i love this new FO going out and getting it

i also love that players want to come in and PLAY for Andy Reid and his gang of merry misfits. Awesome to have a coach that isnt a bumbling idiot from a high bro club of coaching frauds thanks to backing into a once in a NFL lifetime late round QB that keep a bunch of idiots employed for longer than they should have

People are flocking to a 2-14 team. Crazy.

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 12:18 PM
The truth I that there is very little chance we draft Geno...but it's fun to dream until its official.

I'm going to think it's a possibility until the minute they trade that pick away or they take someone else at 1.1.....because it is a fucking possibility.

allen_kcCard
03-15-2013, 12:19 PM
The truth I that there is very little chance we draft Geno...but it's fun to dream until its official.

I am like think Geno possible. But say is hard till it easy.

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 12:19 PM
People are flocking to a 2-14 team. Crazy.

they are flocking to the credible reputation of the new regime.

fuck the Patriots Way. I hope these guys make a Chiefs Way themselves.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 12:20 PM
I'll tell you this: if this team drafts Geno it will win a Super Bowl, not because Geno is necessarily the GOAT, but because the organization will have played three dimensional chess whilst most others played checkers.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 12:20 PM
I am like think Geno possible. But say is hard till it easy.

This?

Mr. Flopnuts
03-15-2013, 12:21 PM
I'm going to think it's a possibility until the minute they trade that pick away or they take someone else at 1.1.....because it is a fucking possibility.

Dream a little dream. I'm dreaming it too. Whatever they do though, it's better than anyone I've seen to this point in my lifetime rooting for the Chiefs. At least on paper. Nothing matters until September.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 12:22 PM
I'll tell you this: if this team drafts Geno it will win a Super Bowl, not because Geno is necessarily the GOAT, but because the organization will have played three dimensional chess whilst most others played checkers.

And if they don't, that decision will ultimately lead to their firings.

Is it possible they could view Geno as the BPA, though?

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 12:52 PM
Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71

Geoff Schwartz said on call he feels he is better at guard. But he can do tackle. Chiefs told him "the best five will roll."

Ace Gunner
03-15-2013, 01:01 PM
hope he's good!!

don't you know -- "we don't need good linemen" :D

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 01:06 PM
And if they don't, that decision will ultimately lead to their firings.

Is it possible they could view Geno as the BPA, though?

Wait, what?

You're saying that if the Chiefs pass on Geno Smith, Reid and Dorsey will be fired before their contracts are up?

What?

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 01:07 PM
Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71

Geoff Schwartz said on call he feels he is better at guard. But he can do tackle. Chiefs told him "the best five will roll."

That is good news, especially considering that Schwartz is on his third team in three years and Asamoah is in a contract year.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 01:09 PM
Pretty impressive pants-shitting by the server.

ptlyon
03-15-2013, 01:11 PM
Pretty impressive pants-shitting by the server.

:clap:

Douche Baggins
03-15-2013, 01:12 PM
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DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 01:13 PM
Pretty impressive pants-shitting by the server.

It was just flushing the final remnants of Cassel

Brainiac
03-15-2013, 01:14 PM
I'll tell you this: if this team drafts Geno it will win a Super Bowl, not because Geno is necessarily the GOAT, but because the organization will have played three dimensional chess whilst most others played checkers.
I was thinking the same thing. Andy Reid and John Dorsey will look like geniuses.

Ace Gunner
03-15-2013, 01:16 PM
Wait, what?

You're saying that if the Chiefs pass on Geno Smith, Reid and Dorsey will be fired before their contracts are up?

What?

have you been away? Dorsey/Reid are on the hot seat before they can even play one game as a staff/team.

ChiefsNow
03-15-2013, 01:19 PM
now all the Chiefs fans on twitter should follow him and make him feel the love.

:)


https://twitter.com/GeoffSchwartz76

Done

KC_Lee
03-15-2013, 01:19 PM
The truth I that there is very little chance we draft Geno...but it's fun to dream until its official.

I am like think Geno possible. But say is hard till it easy.

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HemiEd
03-15-2013, 01:25 PM
I'll tell you this: if this team drafts Geno it will win a Super Bowl, not because Geno is necessarily the GOAT, but because the organization will have played three dimensional chess whilst most others played checkers.

Well said

DeezNutz
03-15-2013, 01:30 PM
I still think that Barkley could be in play in the first for the Chiefs, just not necessarily at 1/1. Trade down then draft QB.

Brainiac
03-15-2013, 01:38 PM
And if they don't, that decision will ultimately lead to their firings.

Is it possible they could view Geno as the BPA, though?
You're smoking the crack pipe. When and if those guys ever get fired (which would be at least 5 years from), it won't be because they didn't draft Geno Smith. It would be because they displayed Poili-esque suckitude over a long period of time, like ***** did. ***** wasn't fired because of Matt Cassel. ***** was fired for a hundred different reasons that all had the same root cause: his idiocy and arrogance.

Brainiac
03-15-2013, 01:40 PM
have you been away? Dorsey/Reid are on the hot seat before they can even play one game as a staff/team.

No, they are not. After pulling the trigger on Pioli, Clark isn't going to jump the gun on Reid/Dorsey. They've got 5 years.

Marcellus
03-15-2013, 01:44 PM
You're smoking the crack pipe. When and if those guys ever get fired (which would be at least 5 years from), it won't be because they didn't draft Geno Smith. It would be because they displayed Poili-esque suckitude over a long period of time, like ***** did. ***** wasn't fired because of Matt Cassel. ***** was fired for a hundred different reasons that all had the same root cause: his idiocy and arrogance.

This x whatever it takes to make the point.

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 01:44 PM
No, they are not. After pulling the trigger on *****, Clark isn't going to jump the gun on Reid/Dorsey. They've got 5 years.

Buzz was being facetious

beach tribe
03-15-2013, 01:47 PM
Allen at Right tackle?


If Schwartz does go to guard then i think it would be Donaldson at RT

I'm actually putting my money on Allen ending up our RT and doing very well there.

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 01:59 PM
Geoff Schwartz ‏@GeoffSchwartz76

Welcome new followers. If you enjoy sports, food n random musings, u will be entertained. I also give away game tickets to every home game

Micjones
03-15-2013, 04:37 PM
Excellent signing!
He's probably slightly inferior to Winston as a run blocker, but he's better in pass pro. DEFINITELY not a depth signing. He will start along this offensive line.

Mr. Laz
03-15-2013, 04:38 PM
I'm actually putting my money on Allen ending up our RT and doing very well there.
that's apparently the rumor around here

BossChief
03-15-2013, 05:06 PM
Wait, what?

You're saying that if the Chiefs pass on Geno Smith, Reid and Dorsey will be fired before their contracts are up?

What?

If we pass on Geno and commit to Alex Smith, we are subjecting ourselves to mid first rounders the next few years. He isn't good enough to win it all with, nor is he bad enough to get us a top 5 pick. The existing talent on this team ensures that.

If we don't draft a guy high in the draft, we are stuck in the same repeating cycle we have been in FOREVER.

you know the drill...sort through other teams backups every couple years, try to decide if we can turn a Kevin Kolb into an Aaron Rodgers every year because we will be looking at the third or 4th best QB of each class.

Basically the Eagles of the last 4 years.

What did that get Andy Reid?

Feel free to bookmark this post.

BigRock
03-15-2013, 05:14 PM
If we pass on Geno and commit to Alex Smith, we are subjecting ourselves to mid first rounders the next few years. He isn't good enough to win it all with, nor is he bad enough to get us a top 5 pick. The existing talent on this team ensures that.

If we don't draft a guy high in the draft, we are stuck in the same repeating cycle we have been in FOREVER.

Unless the FO is willing to pay some exorbitant price to get a QB they want. If only they would give us some indication that they'd be willing to do such a thing.

RunKC
03-15-2013, 05:23 PM
If we pass on Geno and commit to Alex Smith, we are subjecting ourselves to mid first rounders the next few years. He isn't good enough to win it all with, nor is he bad enough to get us a top 5 pick. The existing talent on this team ensures that.

If we don't draft a guy high in the draft, we are stuck in the same repeating cycle we have been in FOREVER.

you know the drill...sort through other teams backups every couple years, try to decide if we can turn a Kevin Kolb into an Aaron Rodgers every year because we will be looking at the third or 4th best QB of each class.

Basically the Eagles of the last 4 years.

What did that get Andy Reid?

Feel free to bookmark this post.

Good QB's are starting to come out all over the draft. Kaepernick, Dalton, Rodgers, Wilson, Flacco etc etc.

If they want a new QB, they'll have plenty of opportunities to take a good one in better QB classes.

Ace Gunner
03-15-2013, 05:25 PM
No, they are not. After pulling the trigger on *****, Clark isn't going to jump the gun on Reid/Dorsey. They've got 5 years.

Sarcasm. it lives here:D

theelusiveeightrop
03-15-2013, 05:28 PM
Nice

The Bad Guy
03-15-2013, 05:33 PM
Good QB's are starting to come out all over the draft. Kaepernick, Dalton, Rodgers, Wilson, Flacco etc etc.

If they want a new QB, they'll have plenty of opportunities to take a good one in better QB classes.

This. Absolutely This.

JASONSAUTO
03-15-2013, 05:37 PM
Good QB's are starting to come out all over the draft. Kaepernick, Dalton, Rodgers, Wilson, Flacco etc etc.

If they want a new QB, they'll have plenty of opportunities to take a good one in better QB classes.
Two were first rounders..

Two were high seconds, one fell because he is a midget, how many of them have actually won a super bowl?

That's right. The two first rounders.
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Chiefnj2
03-15-2013, 05:39 PM
This. Absolutely This.

Yep. Accept mediocrity because there will be a better class of QBs in 2-3 years. Haven't heard that before. Oh wait, it's been repeated the last 40 years. Great plan, if you are a fan of the Broncos, Raiders or Chargers.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 05:47 PM
Good QB's are starting to come out all over the draft. Kaepernick, Dalton, Rodgers, Wilson, Flacco etc etc.

If they want a new QB, they'll have plenty of opportunities to take a good one in better QB classes.

You are suggesting that we gamble our life savings on lottery tickets.

...

You know what's funny?

If we were able to win enough games to be picking 9th or 10th, the discussion right now would most likely be how much it would take to trade up past everyone else to take Geno.

RunKC
03-15-2013, 05:48 PM
Two were first rounders..

Two were high seconds, one fell because he is a midget, how many of them have actually won a super bowl?

That's right. The two first rounders.
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None of them were top 10 picks.

And you can't really judge Kaep, Dalton and Wilson on SB's. They've barely started their careers.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 05:53 PM
None of them were top 10 picks.

And you can't really judge Kaep, Dalton and Wilson on SB's. They've barely started their careers.

I have a project for you.

Find me the last superbowl winner that drafted its left tackle in the top five.

JASONSAUTO
03-15-2013, 05:53 PM
None of them were top 10 picks.

And you can't really judge Kaep, Dalton and Wilson on SB's. They've barely started their careers.
You can't judge them on a year or less of playing either.

But a lot of people have Wilson and kaepernick in their to five qb lists already.

That a little premature, but if you guys want to do that I'm going to ask how many super bowls they have won.

Isn't that the point of all this? To win a super bowl?
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keg in kc
03-15-2013, 05:54 PM
Choosing not to take a great QB right now at number one because you'd rather, on some indeterminate future date, using some indeterminate future pick, select some other indeterminate quarterback, sounds to me like the very definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 05:54 PM
I have a project for you.

Find me the last superbowl winner that drafted its left tackle in the top five.

Baltimore Jonathan Ogden

keg in kc
03-15-2013, 05:57 PM
Baltimore Jonathan OgdenIf there was a Jonathan Ogden in this class, people might be okay with that. Hell, if there was 2/3 of a Jonathan Ogden in this class, people might be okay with that. We're basically talking about drafting John Tait at #1.

RunKC
03-15-2013, 06:04 PM
I have a project for you.

Find me the last superbowl winner that drafted its left tackle in the top five.

In this draft OT might just be the best pick.

JASONSAUTO
03-15-2013, 06:06 PM
In this draft OT might just be the best pick. fuck that.
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RunKC
03-15-2013, 06:10 PM
Kind of funny

Schaub-3rd rd
Brady-6th rd
Manning-1st overall
Flacco-Mid first rd
Dalton-2nd rd
Luck-1st overall

Ryan-3rd overall
Wilson-3rd rd
Kaepernick-2nd rd
Rodgers-Late first rd
RG3-2nd overall
Ponder-1st round

2/3 of the playoff QB's were not drafted in the top 10.

JASONSAUTO
03-15-2013, 06:12 PM
Kind of funny

Schaub-3rd rd
Brady-6th rd
Manning-1st overall
Flacco-Mid first rd
Dalton-2nd rd
Luck-1st overall

Ryan-3rd overall
Wilson-3rd rd
Kaepernick-2nd rd
Rodgers-Late first rd
RG3-2nd overall
Ponder-1st round

2/3 of the playoff QB's were not drafted in the top 10.
what round was the winner drafted in?
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RunKC
03-15-2013, 06:12 PM
I have a project for you.

Find me the last superbowl winner that drafted its left tackle in the top five.

Fact: QB's picked in the 2nd-7th round have had more success in the last 25 years than QB's picked 1st overall.

RunKC
03-15-2013, 06:14 PM
what round was the winner drafted in?
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He was drafted 18th overall, which means we don't have to pick 1st in the draft, or even top 5, to get a franchise QB.

Thanks for proving that point for me LMAO

keg in kc
03-15-2013, 06:16 PM
You don't have to pick first in the draft to get a franchise anything. So let's just concede the pick altogether.

kcgizmo
03-15-2013, 06:19 PM
Did we get Schwartz or what, I did not see him updated in the free agency thread?

ChiefsCountry
03-15-2013, 06:21 PM
Fact: QB's picked in the 2nd-7th round have had more success in the last 25 years than QB's picked 1st overall.

Just 25% of the Super Bowl wins.
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JASONSAUTO
03-15-2013, 06:22 PM
He was drafted 18th overall, which means we don't have to pick 1st in the draft, or even top 5, to get a franchise QB.

Thanks for proving that point for me LMAO no one had ever said they have to be drafted first overall.

BUT.drafting first should give you the best shot at getting the best one
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RunKC
03-15-2013, 06:32 PM
Just 25% of the Super Bowl wins.
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I bet % that goes up in the coming years considering 2/3 of last years playoff QB's weren't first round picks.

JASONSAUTO
03-15-2013, 07:12 PM
I bet % that goes up in the coming years considering 2/3 of last years playoff QB's weren't first round picks.

we will see. I'm not ready to crown any of the Youngs. Too small of a sample size
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Douche Baggins
03-15-2013, 07:14 PM
Fact: QB's picked in the 2nd-7th round have had more success in the last 25 years than QB's picked 1st overall.

You're comparing 6 rounds to one pick.

Seems fair.

Dipshit.

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 07:15 PM
:thumb:Did we get Schwartz or what, I did not see him updated in the free agency thread?

Yes.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 07:26 PM
Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, John Elway.

12 Super Bowls alone. All picked 1.1.

I'd love to play poker with some of you, because your understanding of implied odds is absolutely pathetic.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 07:43 PM
In this draft OT might just be the best pick.
Shoot youself.
Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, John Elway.

12 Super Bowls alone. All picked 1.1.

I'd love to play poker with some of you, because your understanding of implied odds is absolutely pathetic.

It's amazing that in a league where you can draft a first round QB and have a legit shot at stabilizing your team for 13-15 years half the time you take that chance, that there are still people that think you shouldn't do that and instead, buy a bunch of lottery tickets that have a 1:20 shot at hitting.

This fanbase is fuckarded.

We have had an absolutely ELITE left tackle and didnt win shit.
We have had an absolutely ELITE pass rusher and didnt win shit.

We have passed on damn near every quarterback that has won the last few superbowls and yet, still, there are DROVES of fans that are totally ok with putting their dicks back into the blender.

It's truly awe inspiring.

patteeu
03-15-2013, 07:57 PM
:facepalm: Here's that "drafting a QB is pure chance" assumption again.

ChiefGator
03-15-2013, 08:07 PM
Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, John Elway.

12 Super Bowls alone. All picked 1.1.

I'd love to play poker with some of you, because your understanding of implied odds is absolutely pathetic.

Who are Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, and John Elway.. when did they last win?

Were they before the era of free agency?

EDIT: I looked up Terry Bradshaw.. he wishes he has the stats of Matt Cassel.

KC_Lee
03-15-2013, 08:20 PM
Who are Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, and John Elway.. when did they last win?

Were they before the era of free agency?

EDIT: I looked up Terry Bradshaw.. he wishes he has the stats of Matt Cassel.

:spock:

ChiefGator
03-15-2013, 08:22 PM
:spock:

Point is, the business of football has changed a lot since them. Citing them as an example is completely foolish.

And if you look at their stats, Cassel is far better than Bradshaw.

Baby Lee
03-15-2013, 08:23 PM
They signed him too?

He's dead.

AussieChiefsFan
03-15-2013, 08:24 PM
Hell yes!

RunKC
03-15-2013, 08:24 PM
we will see. I'm not ready to crown any of the Youngs. Too small of a sample size
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Let's be real. Kaep and Wilson are probably gonna win a ring each and boost that %.

RunKC
03-15-2013, 08:26 PM
Shoot youself.

I'm not the biggest proponent of OT at 1. I'd rather have a pass rusher of some kind, but it seems like it's going to be OT.

This is going to be like the DV regime. Build the OL to help the QB succeed.

ChiefGator
03-15-2013, 08:27 PM
Let's be real. Kaep and Wilson are probably gonna win a ring each and boost that %.

I do believe in Kaep.. he is a phenomenal talent athletically. He has and will continue to rewrite history books with this speed and athleticism. I like Wilson, but I see a sophomore slump next year.

JASONSAUTO
03-15-2013, 08:31 PM
Let's be real. Kaep and Wilson are probably gonna win a ring each and boost that %.

Lets really be real and realize that they both haven't proven shit. One season, fuck half a season for kapernick, doesn't make a career. WE will see how they do when teams get some tape on them
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ChiefGator
03-15-2013, 08:35 PM
Lets really be real and realize that they both haven't proven shit. One season, **** half a season for kapernick, doesn't make a career. WE will see how they do when teams get some tape on them
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Exactly.. a different QB got the niners into such a good position, and Kaep just came in at the end when that niners QB got injured and couldn't finish his good run. There's only about 9 games (including playoffs) of take on him.

JASONSAUTO
03-15-2013, 08:43 PM
Exactly.. a different QB got the niners into such a good position, and Kaep just came in at the end .

Don't know what you are saying exactly about. I don't agree with what's posted here at all
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scott free
03-15-2013, 08:47 PM
I like Wilson, but I see a sophomore slump next year.

I dont, theres a lot of evidence that says theres a real walk behind the talk with him, like he doesnt just give the smart answer because he's smart enough to know what the questioner wants to hear... but because thats what he genuinely does and thinks.

He isnt nearly the physical specimen kaepernick is, but i bet he has the brain to offset that enough to approximate or eventually surpass him.

Seattle is going to be a reeeal BITCH for the next several years imo, wilson works too hard and seattle is just too deep and talented for a sophomore slump.

Setsuna
03-15-2013, 08:51 PM
Yall won't get Geno and will have Alex Smith, yet yall are celebrating. CP turning into True Fans.

penbook
03-15-2013, 08:52 PM
Yall won't get Geno and will have Alex Smith, yet yall are celebrating. CP turning into True Fans.

Dorsey said BPA and after Genos pro day how can he not be the BPA. I believe what Dorsey says and so far he has followed through. Geno would just be icing on top of the cake.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 08:53 PM
If you believe what Dorsey says you should listen to what he said at Smith's PC. He's the guy in their mind. Give it up.

penbook
03-15-2013, 08:58 PM
If you believe what Dorsey says you should listen to what he said at Smith's PC. He's the guy in their mind. Give it up.

Yes but that doesnt mean Geno cant be the #2. If Reid feels like Geno is better than Alex than Geno will start.

This isnt like Piolis butt buddy cassell where everyone knew he sucked but pioli was tied to him.

Reid and Dorsey want to win.

ChiefsCountry
03-15-2013, 09:00 PM
We have passed on damn near every quarterback that has won the last few superbowls and yet, still, there are DROVES of fans that are totally ok with putting their dicks back into the blender.

You would think people would learn when only Len Dawson and Joe Montana have playoff wins with this franchise. Sorry Steve DeBerg has one, but that proves the point. Only one win in the franchise was without a stud quarterback leading it, should tell people what this team needs.

RunKC
03-15-2013, 09:18 PM
You would think people would learn when only Len Dawson and Joe Montana have playoff wins with this franchise. Sorry Steve DeBerg has one, but that proves the point. Only one win in the franchise was without a stud quarterback leading it, should tell people what this team needs.

There are none of those QB's in this draft. It sucks, but it's the reality of it.

Gotta try next time unless Alex Smith is winning playoff games.

penbook
03-15-2013, 09:22 PM
Good God people on the Kcchiefs official fb page are stupid as hell. They ask the fans what do you want to do with the #1 pick.

I heard answers like ogletree, wilson, joeckel, millner, lacy, and teo.

I only heard one person say Geno. Another said take Geno and trade Alex.

MotherfuckerJones
03-15-2013, 09:24 PM
There are all kinds of smokescreens right now. You can't believe everything. But I do know theyre not taking Geno. Theyre gona trade back for picks

penbook
03-15-2013, 09:26 PM
There are all kinds of smokescreens right now. You can't believe everything. But I do know theyre not taking Geno. Theyre gona trade back for picks

Thats what Im hoping for too. Hopefullt the Bills trade with us. We will get a lot of picks this and next year.

milkman
03-15-2013, 09:29 PM
Who are Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, and John Elway.. when did they last win?

Were they before the era of free agency?

EDIT: I looked up Terry Bradshaw.. he wishes he has the stats of Matt Cassel.

Entirely different era, and nearly an entirely differnt game then.

Terry Bradshaw was an outstanding QB, and probably the most underrated great QB ever.

Douche Baggins
03-15-2013, 09:30 PM
If you believe what Dorsey says you should listen to what he said at Smith's PC. He's the guy in their mind. Give it up.

Well, we were told actually that Reid is basically a pathological liar in press conferences...so Dorsey may be too.

Just trying to find one sliver of hope for G-dawg.

penbook
03-15-2013, 09:32 PM
Well, we were told actually that Reid is basically a pathological liar in press conferences...so Dorsey may be too.

Just trying to find one sliver of hope for G-dawg.

Reid and Dorsey are here to win.

If they feel like they draft Geno and can beat out Alex than Geno will start.

KCChiefsFan88
03-15-2013, 10:46 PM
I hate the Alex Smith trade, but I'll Reid/Dorsey credit... the Chiefs are actually an active participant in free agency for once.

Welcome to the modern, free agency-era NFL, KC... it only took 20 years.

Douche Baggins
03-15-2013, 10:54 PM
Welcome to the modern, free agency-era NFL, KC... it only took 20 years.

BS.

No welcoming them to the present until 7+ YPA and at least 3600 yards.

That's asking for slightly above average.

MotherfuckerJones
03-15-2013, 11:07 PM
The only stat I care for is wins

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-15-2013, 11:09 PM
Luxury Pick forthcoming...
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boogblaster
03-15-2013, 11:27 PM
good .....

BossChief
03-15-2013, 11:44 PM
Well, we were told actually that Reid is basically a pathological liar in press conferences...so Dorsey may be too.

Just trying to find one sliver of hope for G-dawg.

Im not sure id call him a liar, misinformation is part of his job...but he has no problem making "business decisions" that effect his perception...here are a few examples...

In 2010, he named Donovan McNabb the starter for the year....then, weeks later, he traded him to a division foe...named Kolb the starter for the season...a few weeks later he benched him in favor of Vick...Vick was the unquestioned starter with a 100 million dollar contract in 2011 and went into 2012 the unquestioned starter, until Reid benched his 100 million dollar QB at the halfway point in favor of a third round rookie.

If you go back and watch the press conferences prior to any of those moves, he acts like no change is gonna happen.

PA Chiefs
03-16-2013, 04:49 AM
Im not sure id call him a liar, misinformation is part of his job...but he has no problem making "business decisions" that effect his perception...here are a few examples...

In 2010, he named Donovan McNabb the starter for the year....then, weeks later, he traded him to a division foe...named Kolb the starter for the season...a few weeks later he benched him in favor of Vick...Vick was the unquestioned starter with a 100 million dollar contract in 2011 and went into 2012 the unquestioned starter, until Reid benched his 100 million dollar QB at the halfway point in favor of a third round rookie.

If you go back and watch the press conferences prior to any of those moves, he acts like no change is gonna happen.

They are not finished with the QB position A.Smith as of right now is the starter but if Chase or a rookie we draft light it up in camp and the preseason we will have a high priced backup Reid is no ***** he will not go down with this QB he wants to win:thumb:

penbook
03-16-2013, 06:24 AM
They are not finished with the QB position A.Smith as of right now is the starter but if Chase or a rookie we draft light it up in camp and the preseason we will have a high priced backup Reid is no ***** he will not go down with this QB he wants to win:thumb:

Chase Daniel I feel can beat out Alex.

buddha
03-16-2013, 08:44 AM
Chase Daniel I feel can beat out Alex.

He can...however, he will likely see playing time first due to injury.

Chiefshrink
03-16-2013, 08:51 AM
Excellent signing! DEFINITELY not a depth signing. He will start along this offensive line.

Agreed :thumb: Dorsey watched this guy firsthand in GB as Peterson's run production was better under Schwartz than it was under Fusco. Can you imagine IF Reid was a run first guy? Jamaal could actually challenge the single season rushing record.

Chiefshrink
03-16-2013, 08:55 AM
Entirely different era, and nearly an entirely differnt game then.

Terry Bradshaw was an outstanding QB, and probably the most underrated great QB ever.

:thumb:

Bradshaw was just a flat out "GAMER in BIG GAMES"

buddha
03-16-2013, 09:15 AM
:thumb:

Bradshaw was just a flat out "GAMER in BIG GAMES"

Bradshaw was primarily a game manager who had a bazooka for a throwing arm. Pittsburgh was a great running team, so Terry never put up gaudy numbers.

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-16-2013, 09:15 AM
Bradshaw and Mean Joe were my faves as a kid.
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milkman
03-16-2013, 09:22 AM
Bradshaw was primarily a game manager who had a bazooka for a throwing arm. Pittsburgh was a great running team, so Terry never put up gaudy numbers.

Bradshaw's game evolved as time passed and age took it's toll on Franco Harris.

It was still a running league, but those Steelers won SBs on the arm of Bradshaw when they needed plays to win.

Chiefshrink
03-16-2013, 09:23 AM
Bradshaw was primarily a game manager who had a bazooka for a throwing arm. Pittsburgh was a great running team, so Terry never put up gaudy numbers.

But his Bazooka Arm was a "Gamer Arm" when needed:thumb: And you can't say that about a lot of NFL system QBs. Let alone having a bazooka arm. Just sayin.