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Jerm
03-15-2013, 02:00 PM
Found this earlier, just thought it was interesting....

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/3/15/4108146/mike-devito-chiefs-defense-bob-sutton-hybrid-34-43

"It's really different than anything I'd seen in any kind of traditional defense," DeVito told Soren Petro on The Program. "It's a hybrid 3-4 / 4-3. A lot of different fronts up front, a lot of different movements and things going on and shifts and things like that based on what the offense is doing. A lot of simulated pressure."

Pass rusher at #1 anyone? Dion Jordan come on down....:thumb:

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 02:12 PM
Found this earlier, just thought it was interesting....

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/3/15/4108146/mike-devito-chiefs-defense-bob-sutton-hybrid-34-43



Pass rusher at #1 anyone? Dion Jordan come on down....:thumb:

Ansah.

Ace Gunner
03-15-2013, 02:13 PM
IF they have the personnel to do it. And it is not new, Crennel ran his version during 2011 and it sucked because the Chiefs did not have BFF's that can run. Tyson J, Poe & Powe can run. maybe they go with them and Devito/Bailey as the fourth DL.

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:13 PM
Found this earlier, just thought it was interesting....

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/3/15/4108146/mike-devito-chiefs-defense-bob-sutton-hybrid-34-43



Pass rusher at #1 anyone? Dion Jordan come on down....:thumb:

Christopher Hansen ‏@ChrisHansenNFL

Andy Reid and John Dorsey chatting with Ziggy Ansah. Hmmm. #Chiefs



http://instagram.com/p/W4zrXhjioU/

Bootlegged
03-15-2013, 02:16 PM
http://instagram.com/p/W4zrXhjioU/

What size shirt does Reid have??? XXXXXL?

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 02:16 PM
100 percent will be the best pass rusher they think is BPA. so either a OLB, DE, DL penetrator. Some dude that can add pressure. Because currently we have TWO fucking guys on the whole roster that can pressure.

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:18 PM
What size shirt does Reid have??? XXXXXL?

size moo moo

ArrowheadMagic
03-15-2013, 02:18 PM
Well now Osi would make a little sense.

Demonpenz
03-15-2013, 02:19 PM
The Prius of the NFL

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 02:20 PM
http://instagram.com/p/W4zrXhjioU/

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865575726/Ziggy-Ansah-may-yet-add-to-his-resume.html

Folks in Provo say Kansas City’s new coach, Andy Reid, would love to take Ansah with the No. 1 pick but will go with Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel.

Lets hope we can get this guy if we trade down (I'd still want us to get Geno)

Tribal Warfare
03-15-2013, 02:21 PM
100 percent will be the best pass rusher they think is BPA. so either a OLB, DE, DL penetrator. Some dude that can add pressure. Because currently we have TWO fucking guys on the whole roster that can pressure.

NYG style

Count Alex's Losses
03-15-2013, 02:21 PM
This sounds like what we did in 2009.

And I'm not trying to be funny.

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 02:22 PM
did you really just say a Clancy Pendergast 2009 defense was a 3-4/4-3 hybrid? because you are 100 percent wrong

MotherfuckerJones
03-15-2013, 02:22 PM
Sign a guy like Osi to rotate along the dline and give us pass rush

tyton75
03-15-2013, 02:23 PM
I'm not ready to count Bailey out as not providing pressure. I think that he would be much better in a pressure style defense. Just sayin'

keg in kc
03-15-2013, 02:24 PM
did you really just say a Clancy Pendergast 2009 defense was a 3-4/4-3 hybrid? because you are 100 percent wrongActually if I remember correctly, he's actually right, at least in terms of talk. After he was hired that offseason, all the discussion was about how we'd be running a hybrid in the fall.

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:28 PM
This sounds like what we did in 2009.

And I'm not trying to be funny.

Everyone pretty much runs a hybrid now

DaWolf
03-15-2013, 02:59 PM
Actually if I remember correctly, he's actually right, at least in terms of talk. After he was hired that offseason, all the discussion was about how we'd be running a hybrid in the fall.

Yes, but was that more due to the fact that it would be by design, or because we were switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and they wanted to do the usual "well, such and such will still have a place in our defense because we are going to use multiple looks" type deal?

History has shown that Clancy Pendergast was just a placeholder until Pioli got Romeo to commit, so I'm not sure how many parallels we can draw from his failed stint...

SNR
03-15-2013, 03:12 PM
Who was it a month ago that said Ziggy Ansah was a potential top 5 pick? I think it was RunKC

If it turns out that way, I need to give that guy some dap.

SNR
03-15-2013, 03:13 PM
I'm not sure if Bob Newhart is the guy to do this. He doesn't exactly have a history of being a mad scientist capable of making wise decisions in these flex alignments

CoMoChief
03-15-2013, 03:15 PM
Trade down to JAX pick and we select Sheldon Richardson...who would tear it up in this defense.

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 03:18 PM
Actually if I remember correctly, he's actually right, at least in terms of talk. After he was hired that offseason, all the discussion was about how we'd be running a hybrid in the fall.

yea but when the season started they never did anything close to that

they ran an awful 34 without the personnel to do it

Easy 6
03-15-2013, 03:23 PM
I'd love to see Osi or Freeney brought in for rush help, but we've probably seen the end of the bigger name signings at this point.

But they better figure something out, Hali and Houston simply arent enough, we need someone who can spot both or fill in for an injury.

Mr. Laz
03-15-2013, 03:25 PM
i think i would rather see a hybrid 1-gap/2-gap system

KC Tattoo
03-15-2013, 03:52 PM
I want to see if Powe can get on the field hoping he didn't get much opportunity with Pioli Poe pick getting the favoritism.

ArrowheadMagic
03-15-2013, 03:54 PM
I want to see if Powe can get on the field hoping he didn't get much opportunity with ***** Poe pick getting the favoritism.

New regime previous picks dont have favoritism.

Easy 6
03-15-2013, 04:02 PM
Count me among those who really hope Reid will see something in Powe, in what few chances he's had he's demonstrated remarkable burst and quicks for a man his size.

Watching him collapse not one but three linemen to make a solo tackle was about all i needed to make me want to see more.

BigChiefTablet
03-15-2013, 04:05 PM
Who was it a month ago that said Ziggy Ansah was a potential top 5 pick? I think it was RunKC

If it turns out that way, I need to give that guy some dap.

Everyone has been saying it since he lit up the combine.

mikey23545
03-15-2013, 04:11 PM
So where will Dumervil fit in this scheme?...:evil:

Hoover
03-15-2013, 04:21 PM
What size shirt does Reid have??? XXXXXL?
kimono?

DTLB58
03-15-2013, 04:27 PM
What size shirt does Reid have??? XXXXXL?

Holy cow! That thing does have some extra in it for him to use as a napkin or two at Outback for supper tonight. :thumb:

milkman
03-16-2013, 11:27 AM
If I was planning on using a 34/43 hybrid, I'd move Dontari Poe to Rde with Jerrel Powe on the nose, and Tyson Jackson at LDE.

I would also switch sides with Hali and Houston, target a versatile LB in the third.

I would then be able to mix up my defense with the base personnel.

34 would have Jackson, Powe and Poe, left to right on the line, Hali, 3rd rounder, DJ, and Houston, left to right at LB.

Drop Hali on the line at RDE, move Jackson inside to DT in a 43 front.

Working like that wouldn't allow the offense to make playcalls based on personnel packages.

Chiefshrink
03-16-2013, 11:42 AM
So where will Dumervil fit in this scheme?...:evil:

Interesting you should say this. Dumervil flourished 'big time' when McDaniels switched to the 3/4. When Fox got here and switched back to the 4/3 is when Dumervil's production went down significantly and why the Broncos won't pay him what he wants regardless of the bullshit story you are getting from both sides in the supposed 'faxgate':rolleyes: Dumervil is much better in the 3/4 and I would take him in a heartbeat if he would sign.:thumb:

Chiefshrink
03-16-2013, 11:45 AM
Working like that wouldn't allow the offense to make playcalls based on personnel packages.

Specifically Manning:thumb:

saphojunkie
03-16-2013, 12:19 PM
We are trading down and taking a pass rusher. It will kill me to see it, but someone else is going to move up for Geno. And while Hali still has a lot of gas in the tank, I think that the state of the league clearly says you stock up on as many top level pass rushers as you can possibly get.

keg in kc
03-16-2013, 01:12 PM
Yes, but was that more due to the fact that it would be by design, or because we were switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and they wanted to do the usual "well, such and such will still have a place in our defense because we are going to use multiple looks" type deal?As I recall it was because that's what Pendergast had done with the Cardinals and there'd been a lot of talk about how it had worked for them in the playoffs.yea but when the season started they never did anything close to that

they ran an awful 34 without the personnel to do itIt's March. The exact same thing could happen this year, all hype and then they don't do it. Point was that the discussion right now is similar.

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 01:19 PM
i dont know about you but im a little tired of "simulated pressure" , how about some real fucking pressure other than TambaHawk??

B14ckmon
03-16-2013, 01:21 PM
As someone who is a fan of another team switching to a hybrid, Dion Jordan is easily the best player for this defense in this draft. Other than a high quality press corner that doesn't exist in this draft.

That said. If the Jaguars don't take him, the Eagles definitely will.

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-16-2013, 09:52 PM
Eagles are going to move up for Geno

Fat Elvis
03-16-2013, 10:07 PM
If I was planning on using a 34/43 hybrid, I'd move Dontari Poe to Rde with Jerrel Powe on the nose, and Tyson Jackson at LDE.

I would also switch sides with Hali and Houston, target a versatile LB in the third.

I would then be able to mix up my defense with the base personnel.

34 would have Jackson, Powe and Poe, left to right on the line, Hali, 3rd rounder, DJ, and Houston, left to right at LB.

Drop Hali on the line at RDE, move Jackson inside to DT in a 43 front.

Working like that wouldn't allow the offense to make playcalls based on personnel packages.

While I still hold out hope that we draft Geno, if we don't the only other player I really want in the first round is Ansah. You plug him into the system that you are describing and you have even more versatility.

As well as ASmith protects the ball and chews up the clock, with our new defensive personel+Ansah in your scheme and we could be looking at the top rated defense in the league in a year or two.

salame
03-17-2013, 02:12 AM
http://instagram.com/p/W4zrXhjioU/

look at those old white men wearing all white shoes

ugh

RunKC
03-17-2013, 02:41 AM
Who was it a month ago that said Ziggy Ansah was a potential top 5 pick? I think it was RunKC

If it turns out that way, I need to give that guy some dap.

LMAO

Hog Farmer
03-17-2013, 06:58 AM
The knock on Ansah is his motor, after 2 or 3 plays he has to go to the sideline to catch his breath.

threebag02
03-17-2013, 07:27 AM
The knock on Ansah is his motor, after 2 or 3 plays he has to go to the sideline to catch his breath.

Maybe one of the Bell brothers can help BUMP him up.

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-17-2013, 09:06 AM
He also said he was going to marry a whore and eat some rum ham.