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B14ckmon
03-15-2013, 02:03 PM
I was listening to 1010xl Jacksonville radio and this was mentioned and made me think. First off I should point out that as a Jaguars fan I don't think I'd be on board with this due to the value of our 33rd pick and our needs but;

What if the Jaguars were to give up something like the 33rd pick (And MAYBE another later round pick) to flip picks with the Chiefs, and then the Chiefs ended up traded that #2 AGAIN for someone looking to snag a LT.

I guess it would really come down to if the Chiefs would need more to swap picks with the Jaguars, and if the 33rd + whatever they get for trading the #2 would be more value than what they would get trading the #1.

Canofbier
03-15-2013, 02:05 PM
if u flip it twice itll be the same as it wsa to begin with lol moron

Dicky McElephant
03-15-2013, 02:05 PM
You guys are going to trade up for Joeckel? Sounds good to me.

#1 - Jags - Joeckel
#2 - Chiefs - Geno Smith

B14ckmon
03-15-2013, 02:06 PM
if u flip it twice itll be the same as it wsa to begin with lol moron

No dipshit. You flip it once. Now your first rounder is a #2 pick. Then you flip it with some later first round pick.

I didn't say flip with the Jaguars twice. I'm talking about a 2012 Rams situation.

Chief_For_Life58
03-15-2013, 02:08 PM
you let the burger grill for a while then you flip it once. never flip it twice. never go full retard

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 02:10 PM
I was listening to 1010xl Jacksonville radio and this was mentioned and made me think. First off I should point out that as a Jaguars fan I don't think I'd be on board with this due to the value of our 33rd pick and our needs but;

What if the Jaguars were to give up something like the 33rd pick (And MAYBE another later round pick) to flip picks with the Chiefs, and then the Chiefs ended up traded that #2 AGAIN for someone looking to snag a LT.

I guess it would really come down to if the Chiefs would need more to swap picks with the Jaguars, and if the 33rd + whatever they get for trading the #2 would be more value than what they would get trading the #1.

No.

If we aren't going to get Geno with 1.1, we can get a lot more value from another team like the Cards or Bills who really need a QB. We can get their 1 and 2 this year and their 1 next year. Once we move out of the #1 spot, the #2 pick is essentially worthless as the talent in the top 25 is pretty closely bunched together.

Keep dreaming. You're screwed.

B14ckmon
03-15-2013, 02:12 PM
No.

If we aren't going to get Geno with 1.1, we can get a lot more value from another team like the Cards or Bills who really need a QB. We can get their 1 and 2 this year and their 1 next year. Once we move out of the #1 spot, the #2 pick is essentially worthless as the talent in the top 25 is pretty closely bunched together.

Keep dreaming. You're screwed.

No it isn't. And I said I wouldn't want us to trade our 33rd pick.

If the Dolphins can't bring back Long, they will need a good young LT.

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 02:14 PM
No it isn't. And I said I wouldn't want us to trade our 33rd pick.

If the Dolphins can't bring back Long, they will need a good young LT.

There are three to choose from. They don't need to trade up to #2.

You're on the outside looking in.

The Jags have ZERO leverage in this draft.

Mile High Mania
03-15-2013, 02:14 PM
Depends on the players they want and how the draft flows in R1... if they can move from #1 down and stay in the top 10 or low teens, receive a bounty in return - then trade down again to the high teens, low 20s - get more picks and still walk away with a nice player ... maybe it's worth the extra picks - definitely more cap friendly.

Dicky McElephant
03-15-2013, 02:14 PM
No it isn't. And I said I wouldn't want us to trade our 33rd pick.

If the Dolphins can't bring back Long, they will need a good young LT.

Long just left St. Louis without a contract. The Dolphins will probably re-sign Long now.

Fish
03-15-2013, 02:25 PM
What if the Earth was made of pizza?

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 02:29 PM
What if the Earth was made of pizza?

http://youtu.be/vrFUBKCONfs

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L.A. Chieffan
03-15-2013, 02:29 PM
Fuck the jaguars

BossChief
03-15-2013, 02:32 PM
Now the troll comes crawling back, begging for a chance at a trade up.

I would rather draft Geno Smith than have all the second round picks in the world...but if they are dead set on not taking a QB, then they need to trade back and extract the value of the top pick.

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 02:34 PM
Basically, you're saying that Geno is worth a second round pick to KC?

LMAO

Canofbier
03-15-2013, 02:38 PM
No dipshit. You flip it once. Now your first rounder is a #2 pick. Then you flip it with some later first round pick.

I didn't say flip with the Jaguars twice. I'm talking about a 2012 Rams situation.

umm no i just fliped a coin over 2wice and its definatly the sam. ur so dumm i bet u didnt even finish midle schoool like i did that 1 tim

nychief
03-15-2013, 02:41 PM
They could.... They could EVEN trade down THREE times? FOUR? The sky is the limit.

ChiefsCountry
03-15-2013, 02:41 PM
No it isn't. And I said I wouldn't want us to trade our 33rd pick.

If the Dolphins can't bring back Long, they will need a good young LT.

Dolphins drafted a left tackle last year.

philfree
03-15-2013, 02:45 PM
We trade down to #4 with Philly and because Barkley has a great pro day he's the next QB up and AZ is afraid he'll get away so they trade up to #4 from #7. So we're at #7 with a bevy of picks this year and next.

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 02:48 PM
We trade down to #4 with Philly and because Barkley has a great pro day he's the next QB up and AZ is afraid he'll get away so they trade up to #4 from #7. So we're at #7 with a bevy of picks this year and next.

No. AZ then trades with the Jags. (not gonna happen)

Once you trade out of the #1, you're done.

philfree
03-15-2013, 02:51 PM
No. AZ then trades with the Jags. (not gonna happen)

Once you trade out of the #1, you're done.

If they think the Raiders are taking Barkley yeah. Hopefully we get one trade done.

KCFaninSEA
03-15-2013, 02:54 PM
No.

If we aren't going to get Geno with 1.1, we can get a lot more value from another team like the Cards or Bills who really need a QB. We can get their 1 and 2 this year and their 1 next year. Once we move out of the #1 spot, the #2 pick is essentially worthless as the talent in the top 25 is pretty closely bunched together.

Keep dreaming. You're screwed.

I can not see any way, any team, this year is giving up 2 #1's and a #2 to move up to the top slot this year. No way

philfree
03-15-2013, 02:57 PM
I can not see any way, any team, this year is giving up 2 #1's and a #2 to move up to the top slot this year. No way

I think at this point there's a good chance the QB needy teams make a move for Geno Smith. I think there's a good chance we get a trade done. Reid and Dorsey are aggressive and they'll try like heck to move that pick.

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 03:00 PM
I can not see any way, any team, this year is giving up 2 #1's and a #2 to move up to the top slot this year. No way

Then you have no idea just how bad the QB situation in AZ and Buff really is; they literally have no QBs.

If Chip Kelly thinks Geno is the guy to run his type of O; he would do it, I guarantee it.

There is Geno and then there is everyone else.

You either get him or you don't.

I hope we get him, but if we don't, we better be well compensated.

SNR
03-15-2013, 03:10 PM
if u flip it twice itll be the same as it wsa to begin with lol moron

Why did Microsoft call their second model of XBox the XBox360?

Because when you see one, you turn 360 degrees and walk away

Spott
03-15-2013, 03:17 PM
The guys on 1010 are so far out of the loop when it comes to anything besides talking about the Florida Gators.

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 03:50 PM
Why did Microsoft call their second model of XBox the XBox360?

Because when you see one, you turn 360 degrees and walk away

Ummm...nevermind.:shake:

SNR
03-15-2013, 03:51 PM
Ummm...nevermind.:shake:

Yes, I know. That's the point.

Urc Burry
03-15-2013, 03:52 PM
Id be trying to get a next years first from the bills or jets... They're going to be baddddd

MTG#10
03-15-2013, 03:58 PM
When can we start negotiating our pick? Do we have to wait until we're "officially" on the clock or could they start listening to offers now?

Urc Burry
03-15-2013, 04:05 PM
When can we start negotiating our pick? Do we have to wait until we're "officially" on the clock or could they start listening to offers now?

Now. If a trades gonna happen I'm pretty sure it's gonna happen before draft day. Like the skins last year

Easy 6
03-15-2013, 04:10 PM
What if the Earth was made of pizza?

I'd take a bite, then wash it all down with a tall, frosty Budweiser!

BossChief
03-15-2013, 04:15 PM
Id be trying to get a next years first from the bills or jets... They're going to be baddddd

If we could get Jacksonvilles 2014 first, sign me up.

Our first overall and our third for their second overall and next years first.

Depending on how many teams are calling, we might be able to keep our third.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 04:17 PM
Now. If a trades gonna happen I'm pretty sure it's gonna happen before draft day. Like the skins last year

The Redskins traded picks on March 10th.

mikey23545
03-15-2013, 04:30 PM
What if the Earth was made of pizza?

I'd much rather the continents were made of ribeye steaks and the seas of loaded baked potatoes.

Mike in SW-MO
03-15-2013, 04:40 PM
I was listening to 1010xl Jacksonville radio and this was mentioned and made me think. First off I should point out that as a Jaguars fan I don't think I'd be on board with this due to the value of our 33rd pick and our needs but;

What if the Jaguars were to give up something like the 33rd pick (And MAYBE another later round pick) to flip picks with the Chiefs, and then the Chiefs ended up traded that #2 AGAIN for someone looking to snag a LT.

I guess it would really come down to if the Chiefs would need more to swap picks with the Jaguars, and if the 33rd + whatever they get for trading the #2 would be more value than what they would get trading the #1.

Yesterday you said to me:
"Why would we give up our first next year when we are rebuilding lol. At least think before coming up with these ideas. Our first will likely be a Clowney/Bridgewater pick next year."

I'll say again that I do not think a 1 & 2 this year will buy Geno for you.

Will it take 1 & 2 this year and next? Dunno. But it looks more and more likely all the time.

Will we get that from somebody? I bet we do.

KC Tattoo
03-15-2013, 04:45 PM
You guys are going to trade up for Joeckel? Sounds good to me.

#1 - Jags - Joeckel
#2 - Chiefs - Geno Smith

SOLD!


Now see we can be positive.

theelusiveeightrop
03-15-2013, 05:04 PM
What if I had two women at once?

MTG#10
03-15-2013, 05:07 PM
What if I had two women at once? Been there, it was kind of awkward...word of advice - make sure its two random skanks and you're not in a serious relationship with one of them.

New World Order
03-15-2013, 05:10 PM
Blackmon telling us to pull a 360. I see how you work.

KCFaninSEA
03-15-2013, 05:20 PM
Then you have no idea just how bad the QB situation in AZ and Buff really is; they literally have no QBs.

If Chip Kelly thinks Geno is the guy to run his type of O; he would do it, I guarantee it.

There is Geno and then there is everyone else.

You either get him or you don't.

I hope we get him, but if we don't, we better be well compensated.

I do know neither team has a QB worth shit. Your scenario of a trade is fine, I just don't think any team would give up what you want. 2 #1's and another 2. If there was a "can't miss" prospect, sure I could see that but there is no "can't miss" QB. Smith is helping our cause but not enough yet. A bidding war would help also.

bevischief
03-15-2013, 05:35 PM
Midgets need to be part of the deal...