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ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:12 PM
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo

Holy moly....... RT @MikeKlis: Hold on, contract not filed in time. Elvis Dumervil has been officially released

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 02:13 PM
ROFL What?

Mavericks Ace
03-15-2013, 02:13 PM
Good.

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:13 PM
I posted this news in the other thread

Fairplay
03-15-2013, 02:14 PM
I posted this news in the other thread



This is an official thread though.

ptlyon
03-15-2013, 02:14 PM
Join the signing bandwagon & get a free tote bag!

SNR
03-15-2013, 02:14 PM
God I hope this is the kind of shit Elway is really about. That he's really a fraud, and Von Miller and Peyton Manning were just instances of being in the right place at the right time.

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:15 PM
Smart move.

Why pay Elvis Dumervill $12 million this season?

ptlyon
03-15-2013, 02:15 PM
This is an official thread though.

***** OFFICIAL DAMMIT!!! *****

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:16 PM
Smart move.

Why pay Elvis Dumervill $12 million this season?

They had a deal done that would pay him 8m

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:16 PM
God I hope this is the kind of shit Elway is really about. That he's really a fraud, and Von Miller and Peyton Manning were just instances of being in the right place at the right time.

Why was it a bad move to release a $12 million dollar player that wouldn't renegotiate his contract?

Elway convinced Wes Welker to take $6 million per year. $6 million for a guy that caught more than 100 passes five years in row.

Easy 6
03-15-2013, 02:16 PM
Its not the end of the world for them, but every little bit helps.

DA_T_84
03-15-2013, 02:16 PM
Andy, pay the man!

Mr_Tomahawk
03-15-2013, 02:16 PM
lol HOLY SHIT

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 02:16 PM
Smart move.

Why pay Elvis Dumervill $12 million this season?

Not really.

They'd agreed to re-structure it to $8 million less than an hour ago. Horseface evidently fucked up the paperwork.

Dumervil is absolutely worth $8 mil.

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:16 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/03/15/elvis-dumervil-denver-broncos-john-elway/1990913/

One of these stories is incorrect

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:17 PM
Smart move.

Why pay Elvis Dumervill $12 million this season?

You do realize they negotiated a restructure and agreed on it, right? They didnt file the paperwork in time so released him

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:17 PM
Not really.

They'd agreed to re-structure it to $8 million less than an hour ago. Horseface evidently fucked up the paperwork.

Dumervil is absolutely worth $8 mil.

$8 million, sure. But not $12.

Easy 6
03-15-2013, 02:17 PM
***** OFFICIAL DAMMIT!!! *****

OFFICIAL is four stars on either side, not five/reported

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:17 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/03/15/elvis-dumervil-denver-broncos-john-elway/1990913/

One of these stories is incorrect

They didn't file the paper work on time 4pm.

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:17 PM
You do realize they negotiated a restructure and agreed on it, right? They didnt file the paperwork in time so released him

That doesn't negate the fact that $12 million was too much, does it?

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:18 PM
Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

Broncos could still sign Elvis Dumervil but there are salary cap implications. Not that simple.

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 02:18 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/03/15/elvis-dumervil-denver-broncos-john-elway/1990913/

One of these stories is incorrect

No, they reached an agreement. They just didn't have time to file it.

What will likely happen is they will file what amounts to a novation of the previous deal; a contract that mirrors the resuctructured terms. But the Broncos weren't sure if it would get processed in time and had no interest in risking the guaranteed cap hit at $12 million so they cut him.

Now they'll go through the hoops of writing and inking him to a deal that matches the restructured one, I would guess.

Fairplay
03-15-2013, 02:18 PM
Second best news of the day behind, first was Schwartz.

The second news is lol x 10 funny.

ptlyon
03-15-2013, 02:19 PM
OFFICIAL is four stars on either side, not five/reported

Shit! You spotted my counterfeit!

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 02:19 PM
If I'm Tampa Bay or another team....I'd call him up and offer $10 million a season to see if he'll sign there.

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 02:19 PM
$8 million, sure. But not $12.

Okay, so they still screwed up.

They had it done at $8 million. Now they don't.

That's certainly not a 'smart move'.

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:19 PM
Not really.

They'd agreed to re-structure it to $8 million less than an hour ago. Horseface evidently fucked up the paperwork.

Dumervil is absolutely worth $8 mil.

According to Jeff Darlington, the agent made a colossal mistake:

Jeff Darlington ‏<s>@</s>JeffDarlington (https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington) Wild stuff on Dumervil right now: It's clock management. Agent made a "colossal mistake," source says, by not getting signed contract faxed.

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 02:19 PM
LOL they could re-sign him for 8 but the release is still at his 12 million because that idiot screwed up, they have to take the cap hit AT 12 million regardless

so it's like paying out 12 million against the cap ANYWAY. LOL

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:19 PM
Jeff Darlington ‏@JeffDarlington

Team hadn't received signed contract via fax at 1:59 p.m. If Broncos didn't waive Elvis, they had to pay original $12 million, source says.

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:20 PM
Okay, so they still screwed up.

They had it done at $8 million. Now they don't.

That's certainly not a 'smart move'.

The Broncos didn't screw up. The agent screwed up.

Jeff Darlington ‏<s>@</s>JeffDarlington (https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington) Wild stuff on Dumervil right now: It's clock management. Agent made a "colossal mistake," source says, by not getting signed contract faxed.

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 02:20 PM
That agent will be fired.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:20 PM
LOL they could re-sign him for 8 but the release is still at his 12 million because that idiot screwed up, they have to take the cap hit AT 12 million regardless

so it's like paying out 12 million against the cap ANYWAY. LOL

He's not a 12m cap hit now.

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:20 PM
Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

Broncos didn't get fax with Elvis Dumervil signature on contract until 2:07 p.m. -- 7 minutes and 1 second past the deadline!


sooo awesome

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 02:21 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Elvis Dumervil's contract not filed with NFL in time. Dumervil released, as Denver Post released.

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 02:21 PM
The Broncos didn't screw up. The agent screwed up.

Jeff Darlington ‏<s>@</s>JeffDarlington (https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington) Wild stuff on Dumervil right now: It's clock management. Agent made a "colossal mistake," source says, by not getting signed contract faxed.

Hmmmm....wonder if he'll waive his commission?

Wow.

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 02:21 PM
lol next thread is going to be "Elvis Dumervil fires agent Poopy McFart"

philfree
03-15-2013, 02:21 PM
Do we have any cap room left? Quick get his agent on the phone.

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:21 PM
He's not a 12m cap hit now.

Yeaaa.... thats the reason they cut him. Idk why he thinks that lol. Anyone know the hit the cap takes for his release?

ptlyon
03-15-2013, 02:22 PM
You sure it was the agents fault? Maybe Elway was off getting his teeth sharpened?

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:22 PM
Fucking crazy! I bet Elway's crying face is buried in a pile of oats right now.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:22 PM
Watch the Pats sign him now.

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 02:22 PM
He's not a 12m cap hit now.

what was his hit before the 12 kicked in?

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 02:22 PM
What a fuckup.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:23 PM
Michelle Beisner ‏@MichelleBeisner

“@AlbertBreer: Whether it was the player, the agent or the fax machine, that potentially just cost Elvis Dumervil millions of dollars.” YEP!

Fairplay
03-15-2013, 02:23 PM
Thank you Elway for your colossal failure.

Count Zarth
03-15-2013, 02:23 PM
broncos > chefs

beer bacon
03-15-2013, 02:24 PM
Sign him so we can be free to draft Geno #1 overall.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:24 PM
what was his hit before the 12 kicked in?

Not really sure i bet it's around 4 or 5m

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:25 PM
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

Holy cow, this Dumervil situation is nuts! @MikeKlis is right. The contract wasn't submitted in time. Doesn't sound like Broncos fault

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 02:25 PM
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/elvis-dumervil/

This shows his cap hit at 13,623,000 in 2013.

Mr. Arrowhead
03-15-2013, 02:25 PM
lol at Broncos

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 02:25 PM
There's no reason why proceeding this important can't be done in person. The cost of a few business class tickets and half a day of inconvenience just cost someone fucktons of money.

Pound foolish fucktards.

Fairplay
03-15-2013, 02:25 PM
Orangemane should be jam packed full of fun tonight.

They were in full jerk-off mode until now.

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:25 PM
Let's Neil Smith the Broncos.

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:26 PM
ROFL

The cap hit hurts.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:26 PM
Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold

Dumervil's release gives #Broncos huge dead money hit. Limits ability to bring him back with a "new'' deal.

MagicHef
03-15-2013, 02:26 PM
So... honest mistake or revenge by the agent?

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:26 PM
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo

Read---> RT @Jeff_Legwold: Dumervil's release gives #Broncos huge dead money hit. Limits ability to bring him back with a "new'' deal

This is a good day

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 02:26 PM
Watch the Pats sign him now.

Holy shit, that would make my day.

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 02:26 PM
The Broncos didn't screw up. The agent screwed up.

Jeff Darlington ‏<s>@</s>JeffDarlington (https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington) Wild stuff on Dumervil right now: It's clock management. Agent made a "colossal mistake," source says, by not getting signed contract faxed.

I don't know if it was a colossal mistake or not. Maybe the Broncos just set the market for Dumervil and Dumervil just told his agent, "Screw 'em." He'll get that much money and more playing for another team.

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 02:27 PM
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/elvis-dumervil/

This shows his cap hit at 13,623,000 in 2013.

It shows dead money at $4,869,000.

Mr. Arrowhead
03-15-2013, 02:27 PM
Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:27 PM
So... honest mistake or revenge by the agent?

Right, an agent is going to fuck himself out of millions of dollars.

LMAO

ptlyon
03-15-2013, 02:27 PM
Let's Neil Smith the Broncos.

I always hated that cocksucker for that...

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:28 PM
Elway will probably get a "do-over".

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 02:28 PM
They'll probably just make up for it with a massive signing bonus to skirt the dead money and spread it out over several years.

Still, this is why the "You're not a GM" shit doesn't fly. Intelligent people who pay attention to detail don't make mistakes like this.

SNR
03-15-2013, 02:28 PM
This is funnier than the time the Raiders accidentally released the wrong player. The pages got stuck together or something, and instead of cutting their training camp scrub, they got rid of their 3rd round pick

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:29 PM
I always hated that one who sucks the penis for that...

I hate it, too, but Traylor was the one that hurt the most.


He was a wrecking machine against us in the playoffs. Without him, the Broncos lose in Arrowhead that night.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:29 PM
Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt

Dumervil, cut, will not be resigned, makes no sense. Team will take a big hit on dead money upon release.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:30 PM
gregg rosenthal ‏@greggrosenthal

Dumervil release creates $4.87 million in dead money according to @MaseDenver. Yikes.

Pawnmower
03-15-2013, 02:30 PM
BRING HIM IN FOR A LOOK

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 02:31 PM
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/elvis-dumervil/

This shows his cap hit at 13,623,000 in 2013.

I don't think so. He had a really interesting contract with 'rolling guarantees' that didn't kick in until those deadlines. I think the Broncos will take a small hit because it's about to accelerate 3 years worth of signing bonus (about 1.5 million) but his 'guaranteed money' wasn't really guaranteed; he had to be on the roster at that deadeline to lock it in.

It was an easily escapable contract and it appears the Broncos did just that.

I hope the Patriots sign him now.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 02:31 PM
Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold

Dumervil's release gives #Broncos huge dead money hit. Limits ability to bring him back with a "new'' deal.

Haha

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:32 PM
I don't know if it was a colossal mistake or not. Maybe the Broncos just set the market for Dumervil and Dumervil just told his agent, "Screw 'em." He'll get that much money and more playing for another team.

That doesn't even make any sense.

Not only did this deal not go through, it cost the Broncos a fuckton of cap space.

ptlyon
03-15-2013, 02:32 PM
ELWAY MAKIN IT RAIN DEAD MONEY UP IN HEAYAR

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:32 PM
Is Dumervil really that good though?

Bwana
03-15-2013, 02:32 PM
Pure gold LMAO

O.city
03-15-2013, 02:32 PM
So can he play the 5 tech?

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:33 PM
NFL Draft Insider ‏@NFLDraftInsider

I am told that DE John Abraham is now a New England Patriot.


Maybe he wont be a PAT

SNR
03-15-2013, 02:33 PM
Elvis wasn't that good in the 3-4, but boy would it be fucking awesome to have him as a Chief LMAO

Hey Elway! Made you eat your parents! Nyuh nyuh nyuh nyuh nyuh!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_la0258dJVO1qzmm04o1_500.gif

Fish
03-15-2013, 02:33 PM
Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold

Dumervil's release gives #Broncos huge dead money hit. Limits ability to bring him back with a "new'' deal.

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/4071/nelsonhaha.jpg

Radar Chief
03-15-2013, 02:33 PM
ROFL

The cap hit hurts.

I know, right? Like the Broncos worry about the cap.

Bewbies
03-15-2013, 02:33 PM
We will see if the agent screwed up or tried to pull a fast one. If he's fired and sued, he screwed up.

If he's retained...

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 02:33 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Elvis Dumervil contract snafu accelerates $3.25 million in salary-cap room.

philfree
03-15-2013, 02:34 PM
Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt

Dumervil, cut, will not be resigned, makes no sense. Team will take a big hit on dead money upon release.

:spock: We're probably out of money for FAs but I think we really should try and pick this guy up. We're going to be running multiple fronts anyway so we could make it work. We could have Dumervil, Hali and Houston all on the field rushing the passer on passing downs. It'd be kind of like the Giants did with their D.

Bewbies
03-15-2013, 02:34 PM
And bring him in Andy!

ArrowheadMagic
03-15-2013, 02:34 PM
Arent they now up against the cap.... be great if they have to cut someone to get back under.

Mr. Laz
03-15-2013, 02:34 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Elvis Dumervil contract snafu accelerates $3.25 million in salary-cap room..

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 02:35 PM
They'll probably just make up for it with a massive signing bonus to skirt the dead money and spread it out over several years.

Still, this is why the "You're not a GM" shit doesn't fly. Intelligent people who pay attention to detail don't make mistakes like this.

Give him a 2014 roster bonus of $15 million....

Oh wait, he's probably not going to be a big fan of that idea. There's probably not a lot of good will between these fellas right now.

That's really the problem here - you're Dumervil and the Broncos just told you they don't really want to pay you and have backed out of their deal. Consequently, you're surely going to want anything they give you up front. The broncos, meanwhile, now have a bunch of dead money that keeps them from giving you that much up front without really boning themselves long-term.

This cracks my shit up.

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 02:35 PM
yea i was right

so even if they sign him at 8, the dead money is well over 4. So they would be shelling out more than 12 million after this stupid mistake, rather than just keeping him at the 12 million deadline.

idiots

DaFace
03-15-2013, 02:35 PM
I can't recall a situation like this before. Anyone know?

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 02:36 PM
That doesn't even make any sense.

Not only did this deal not go through, it cost the Broncos a ****ton of cap space.

A bet a lot of players are getting tired of contracts that the teams don't have to fulfill, and I bet Dumervil wasn't exactly happy to hear Elway say, "...when you look at the market and what's out there now. It's (his salary) so far out of whack. Hopefully, he realizes that."

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Dumvervil just gave Elway a big FU.

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:37 PM
Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

Text I just received from NFL executive: "The Broncos just pulled the most Raider move ever." Classic.

DA_T_84
03-15-2013, 02:37 PM
I bet his agent is storming around the office right now like Ari Gold trying to figure out who fucked up the fax

BossChief
03-15-2013, 02:37 PM
I can't recall a situation like this before. Anyone know?

Closest I an think of was when Minnesota missed their draft time.

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:37 PM
I know, right? Like the Broncos worry about the cap.

Touche.



"Sign here, Elvis. Ok, that brings your wages to $5/hour for the next 4 years with a cap hit of $9.95, but we will look forward to you working as a "consultant" after you retire for $15 million a year."

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:37 PM
A bet a lot of players are getting tired of contracts that the teams don't have to fulfill, and I bet Dumervil wasn't exactly happy to hear Elway say, "...when you look at the market and what's out there now. It's (his salary) so far out of whack. Hopefully, he realizes that."

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Dumvervil just gave Elway a big FU.

Puleeeze

ArrowheadMagic
03-15-2013, 02:38 PM
Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout

Text I just received from NFL executive: "The Broncos just pulled the most Raider move ever." Classic.
LMAO

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 02:38 PM
They'll probably end up working something out. He knows this is the closest he is going to get to being on a Superbowl caliber roster.

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:40 PM
They'll probably end up working something out. He knows this is the closest he is going to get to being on a Superbowl caliber roster.

Would cost way too much money, I dont see it. he is already getting a chunk of change basically for free from being cut. Now he can go sign with another team and plop some more on top

Mile High Mania
03-15-2013, 02:40 PM
Actually, it was Doom's agent that didn't fax back the signed paperwork on time ... not the Broncos.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:40 PM
Don Banks ‏@DonBanks

If I'm Denver, I throw the red flag and challenge this one. Even if you lose a timeout. NFL might be in a good mood, you never know.

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:41 PM
They'll probably end up working something out. He knows this is the closest he is going to get to being on a Superbowl caliber roster.

Meh.

Give me a choice between a possible Superbowl and multiple millions more in salary, I am going for the money.

Business.

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 02:41 PM
They'll probably end up working something out. He knows this is the closest he is going to get to being on a Superbowl caliber roster.

you dont think New England is going to want to counter punch Elway in the teeth after the Wes Welker move? This would be the perfect suck it by ole Bill Belichick

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 02:41 PM
Don Banks ‏@DonBanks

If I'm Denver, I throw the red flag and challenge this one. Even if you lose a timeout. NFL might be in a good mood, you never know.

And that would be complete bullshit if they gave them a break on it. You missed the deadline. It's there for a fucking reason. Deal with it.

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:41 PM
Actually, it was Doom's agent that didn't fax back the signed paperwork on time ... not the Broncos.

I mean technically, they should have got the deal done with more than 30 minutes left to work.

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:41 PM
Meh.

Give me a choice between a possible Superbowl and multiple millions more in salary, I am going for the money.

Business.

I don't think anyone's paying Dumervill $12 million per year.

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:41 PM
And that would be complete bullshit if they gave them a break on it. You missed the deadline. It's there for a ****ing reason. Deal with it.

This is Denver we are talking about.

MagicHef
03-15-2013, 02:42 PM
Don Banks ‏@DonBanks

If I'm Denver, I throw the red flag and challenge this one. Even if you lose a timeout. NFL might be in a good mood, you never know.

I wouldn't be surprised if it got "worked out."

It would give you guys something else to hate the Broncos for, at least.

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:42 PM
I don't think anyone's paying Dumervill $12 million per year.

No, but I don't think Denver still wants to give him 8 million a year, either.

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 02:42 PM
Actually, it was Doom's agent that didn't fax back the signed paperwork on time ... not the Broncos.

Get it worked out beforehand so there isn't any question.

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:43 PM
And that would be complete bullshit if they gave them a break on it. You missed the deadline. It's there for a fucking reason. Deal with it.

Eh, I'd give them a break. 7 minutes? If it were 70 minutes or 7 hours, sure, but 7 minutes?

It's not like the deal wasn't agreed upon and done.

MTG#10
03-15-2013, 02:43 PM
Dumervil wasnt very good anymore anyway, and Elway let this happen on purpose. Its all part of his master plan /knowtard

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:43 PM
"Oh, we were going by Mountain Time!" /Elway

ArrowheadMagic
03-15-2013, 02:43 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it got "worked out."

It would give you guys something else to hate the Broncos for, at least.

most likely, but should have already been handled.

Fat Elvis
03-15-2013, 02:43 PM
I don't think anyone's paying Dumervill $12 million per year.

Yeah, but $8M/ isn't out of the question.

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 02:44 PM
Eh, I'd give them a break. 7 minutes? If it were 70 minutes or 7 hours, sure, but 7 minutes?

It's not like the deal wasn't agreed upon and done.

So? There are deadlines for a reason. They know when the deadline is. Too bad....shit happens.

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 02:44 PM
Don Banks ‏@DonBanks

If I'm Denver, I throw the red flag and challenge this one. Even if you lose a timeout. NFL might be in a good mood, you never know.

That's stupid.

This wasn't an automatic cut that came from missing the deadline - the Bronco's had to actively cut Dumervil. They elected to cut him because they couldn't get the fax back on time and didn't want to take the risk of having the deal guaranteed.

WTF are they going to challenge, exactly? If they were going to pull that stunt, they'd have needed to keep him on the original deal and try to have the new contract given retroactive effect.

There's simply no way they'll be able to convince the NFL to 'uncut' a guy that they took proactive steps to release. And there's no goddamn way they'll avoid the cap hit; the rest of the NFL would lose their collective minds if the Broncos got out from under what they acknowledge was player-friendly contract without having to deal with the dead money.

Some 'writers' don't think before they speak.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:44 PM
Don Banks ‏@DonBanks

"Hello, NFL, this is Peyton Manning. Can we try and find a solution to this Dumervil issue we can all live with? And by we I mean us.''

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 02:45 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it got "worked out."

It would give you guys something else to hate the Broncos for, at least.

Explain how the NFL is going to 'work this out'.

Give it a shot.

OrtonsPiercedTaint
03-15-2013, 02:45 PM
Damn that pesky Noid

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 02:45 PM
Explain how the NFL is going to 'work this out'.

Give it a shot.

Roger Goodell is scum

there that's the answer

Mile High Mania
03-15-2013, 02:46 PM
Get it worked out beforehand so there isn't any question.

I would guess they did this the way they've done all other deals and the way all teams work the process... the agent here f'ed up. Word is that 35 minutes prior to the deadline, the deal was accepted and the paperwork was sent to be signed and faxed back.

MTG#10
03-15-2013, 02:46 PM
Damn that pesky NOIDHeh, the fact that I get this makes me feel really old.

DA_T_84
03-15-2013, 02:46 PM
To Be Clear:
- Its not that the agent didnt submit the contract to the league in time, its that the Agent didnt get it back to the Broncos in time.
- The Broncos, facing a deadline that would cost millions, were forced to send his release into the league office.

You can't undo a firing. Its not like the agent turned his test into the professor after the bell; the team fired ED.

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:47 PM
Elway should tell that agent to go fuck himself if he ever want to negotiate in the future.

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:47 PM
So? There are deadlines for a reason. They know when the deadline is. Too bad....shit happens.

Dude, I can't even tell you how many times in my life (when I had an office job) that I was 7 minutes late to work or late coming back from lunch, etc.

Every fucking morning, I'm rushing to get the kid out the door and when I'm get into the car, the time seems wrong "It can't be 8:55!". So yesterday morning, I checked the time on all the house clocks when I returned and of course, the clocks were correct.

I just don't see the big deal about 7 minutes.

Mile High Mania
03-15-2013, 02:47 PM
Either way - it's likely going to cost Doom a few dollars this season, not sure he's getting $8M on the open market.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:48 PM
David Canter ‏@davidcanter

Every agent is required by NFLPA to carry liability insurance in case there's a breach or irresponsibility. Elvis has strong case

GoChargers
03-15-2013, 02:48 PM
The Donks are looking like the Faid recently. First they blow cap space on Wes Welker instead of fixing their anemic secondary, and now they have to cut one of their best players? LMAO

MagicHef
03-15-2013, 02:48 PM
Explain how the NFL is going to 'work this out'.

Give it a shot.

The league really likes Manning.

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 02:48 PM
To Be Clear:
- Its not that the agent didnt submit the contract to the league in time, its that the Agent didnt get it back to the Broncos in time.
- The Broncos, facing a deadline that would cost millions, were forced to send his release into the league office.

You can't undo a firing. Its not like the agent turned his test into the professor after the bell; the team fired ED.

Exactly.

The NFL would have to fucking uncut a guy. They'd have to take a free agent and place him back on an NFL roster.

If the NFL owners didn't lose their minds, the NFLPA would.

This 'work something out' talk is retarded. If there was any chance in the world of that happening, it could have only happened had the Broncos kept him on the roster past the deadline and tried to back-date the renegotiated deal.

Let's keep our wits about us, people. We know this is the Broncos, but you have to think about the logistics of what you're suggesting.

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:48 PM
David Canter ‏@davidcanter

Every agent is required by NFLPA to carry liability insurance in case there's a breach or irresponsibility. Elvis has strong case

Translation: That agent is fucked

ptlyon
03-15-2013, 02:48 PM
Wish I could hear a sound byte of him sayin "MOTHERFUCKER!!!"

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:48 PM
Explain how the NFL is going to 'work this out'.

Give it a shot.

I really, really hate to say it but, "Peyton Manning".

mcaj22
03-15-2013, 02:48 PM
he will get his money if they bring a strong case that it was the Donks fault and or the agent

notorious
03-15-2013, 02:49 PM
The league really likes Manning.

LMAO

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 02:49 PM
Dude, I can't even tell you how many times in my life (when I had an office job) that I was 7 minutes late to work or late coming back from lunch, etc.

Every fucking morning, I'm rushing to get the kid out the door and when I'm get into the car, the time seems wrong "It can't be 8:55!". So yesterday morning, I checked the time on all the house clocks when I returned and of course, the clocks were correct.

I just don't see the big deal about 7 minutes.

It's not the 7 minutes that makes it impossible.

It was when the Broncos faxed Dumervil's release to the league office rather than allow the contract to be guaranteed.

Sorry folks, that's a bell that's not getting unrung.

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2013, 02:50 PM
It's not the 7 minutes that makes it impossible.

It was when the Broncos faxed Dumervil's release to the league office rather than allow the contract to be guaranteed.

Sorry folks, that's a bell that's not getting unrung.

You're probably right.

Elvis should have hired David Canter.

:D

GoChargers
03-15-2013, 02:51 PM
I'm sure Roger will fix this for his glory-boy quarterback and new favorite team, but still, this is priceless.

Chief_For_Life58
03-15-2013, 02:51 PM
so whats the deal here...they lose 4 mill in dead cash? someone explain what just happened to us regulur chiefs common folks hur

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 02:51 PM
I really, really hate to say it but, "Peyton Manning".

Oh I know. If they could do it, they would.

I'm just wondering if anyone here has a suggestion as to how. The only way I can come up with that makes any sense at all, and I mean the only one, is that the league comes out and 'reports' that the release papers from Denver weren't actually sent and the reports that Dumervil was ever released have been in error.

From there they try to unwind the cap damage.

But if the NFL acknowledges receipt of the release papers - well what's dead stays dead. Elway's a hell of a quarterback, but he's not Jesus.

stevieray
03-15-2013, 02:51 PM
good.

fuck the donks.

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:51 PM
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6189/imagedvf.png

MagicHef
03-15-2013, 02:52 PM
It's not the 7 minutes that makes it impossible.

It was when the Broncos faxed Dumervil's release to the league office rather than allow the contract to be guaranteed.

Sorry folks, that's a bell that's not getting unrung.

Sure. The NFL is completely transparent. There's never anything that goes on that doesn't seem to fit within their rules.

TEX
03-15-2013, 02:53 PM
The Donks are looking like the Faid recently. First they blow cap space on Wes Welker instead of fixing their anemic secondary, and now they have to cut one of their best players? LMAO

I wish the Chiefs had their "problems."...

SNR
03-15-2013, 02:53 PM
The NFL didn't even bother considering a reverse ruling on the Seahawks/Packers game earlier this year with the replacement official fuck up.

They're a league that does not grant the benefit of the doubt. No professional sports league is that way. The rules are in place for a reason-- because this shit is ultra competitive. One team can not be given a break just because they have a good excuse.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:54 PM
Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS

@adbrandt Why the hell did they wait so long, Andy? that's on them too

stevieray
03-15-2013, 02:55 PM
You're probably right.

Elvis should have hired David Canter.

:D
trying to pm you about guitars...no go...

mikey23545
03-15-2013, 02:55 PM
I hope Fivehead has plenty of sugar cubes in his pocket...

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 02:55 PM
Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS

@adbrandt Why the hell did they wait so long, Andy? that's on them too

exactly. Should have been done yesterday

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 02:57 PM
Dude, I can't even tell you how many times in my life (when I had an office job) that I was 7 minutes late to work or late coming back from lunch, etc.

Every fucking morning, I'm rushing to get the kid out the door and when I'm get into the car, the time seems wrong "It can't be 8:55!". So yesterday morning, I checked the time on all the house clocks when I returned and of course, the clocks were correct.

I just don't see the big deal about 7 minutes.

ROFL

Remember....you're talking to the guy with 3 daughters. I know all about being late to work.

philfree
03-15-2013, 02:57 PM
Free Agent Frenzy baby!ROFL

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 02:57 PM
Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt

Last comment on Dumervil-Broncos (for now): There will be lawyers.....and new agents.

MahiMike
03-15-2013, 02:59 PM
Closest I an think of was when Minnesota missed their draft time.

That's what came to mind for me too. Very Trezelle-esque.

notorious
03-15-2013, 03:00 PM
That agent might have trouble finding business in the future.

BossChief
03-15-2013, 03:00 PM
Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS

@adbrandt Why the hell did they wait so long, Andy? that's on them too

They tried to pull the quintessential "fast one" on Dumervil and it screwed them.

Karmas a bitch.

Fairplay
03-15-2013, 03:02 PM
Either way - it's likely going to cost Doom a few dollars this season, not sure he's getting $8M on the open market.



I think he could get $8M, yes.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 03:03 PM
Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt

One note though: if the player never got his signature back to the agent before the deadline, it's on him, not the agent.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 03:03 PM
Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer

My understanding is, on top of the rest of it, Denver gave Dumervil a 1 pm MT deadline to accept the paycut. He verbally accepted at 1:25.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 03:03 PM
Michelle Beisner ‏@MichelleBeisner

At 1:59pm the Broncos had no paperwork. Had to protect themselves by releasing Dumervil. Received stamped paperwork at 2:06pm.

chefsos
03-15-2013, 03:04 PM
I don't think Denver even tries to undo this.

If the priority is: $8M Dumervil>No Dumervil>>>>>$12M Dumervil, I think they'll just roll with No Dumervil.

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 03:06 PM
Michelle Beisner ‏@MichelleBeisner

At 1:59pm the Broncos had no paperwork. Had to protect themselves by releasing Dumervil. Received stamped paperwork at 2:06pm.

I would've killed to be a fly on the wall in Elway's office as they hit 'send' on those release papers.

Oh that's beautiful. It might've been funnier had they not gotten the release papers in at all and been on the hook for his guaranteed deal, but this is still damn funny.

MagicHef
03-15-2013, 03:07 PM
They could get close to the same cap hits and guaranteed salaries in a new deal by being creative with bonuses. We'll see what happens.

philfree
03-15-2013, 03:09 PM
We could line up in a 4-3 with Dumerville at RDE, Hali at LDE, Houston as SOLB, DJ on the other side. We'd need a ILB...

Chief_For_Life58
03-15-2013, 03:09 PM
I would've killed to be a fly on the wall in Elway's office as they hit 'send' on those release papers.

Oh that's beautiful. It might've been funnier had they not gotten the release papers in at all and been on the hook for his guaranteed deal, but this is still damn funny.

PC load letter???? WTF IS A PC LOAD LETTER?!?!?!?

Fish
03-15-2013, 03:10 PM
This is the most satisfying move of the entire offseason.....

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 03:10 PM
We could line up in a 4-3 with Dumerville at RDE, Hali at LDE, Houston as SOLB, DJ on the other side. We'd need a ILB...

Houston at Will, DJ at Sam, you'd still need a Mike.

That's exactly the scenario I've been after all along; I hate the damn 3-4.

Pestilence
03-15-2013, 03:10 PM
shannon sharpe ‏@ShannonSharpe

Waited until 4.06 to fax contract back,but you can't fool @johnelway.

chefsos
03-15-2013, 03:11 PM
They could get close to the same cap hits and guaranteed salaries in a new deal by being creative with bonuses. We'll see what happens.You mean the same cap hit and salary that they absolutely could not handle just hours ago?

Dayze
03-15-2013, 03:11 PM
PC load letter???? WTF IS A PC LOAD LETTER?!?!?!?

yeah, yeah. That's what I want. I like that.

MagicHef
03-15-2013, 03:12 PM
You mean the same cap hit and salary that they absolutely could not handle just hours ago?

No. The new one they agreed to.

philfree
03-15-2013, 03:14 PM
Houston at Will, DJ at Sam, you'd still need a Mike.

That's exactly the scenario I've been after all along; I hate the damn 3-4.

I don't hate the 3-4 but that'd be an awsome lineup. Doing multiple fronts we could do alot of things on passing downs with those guys.

We need to make a move and do it first and fast.

Dayze
03-15-2013, 03:15 PM
I hate the 3-4 as well.

well, at least the way the Chiefs use it lol

ArrowheadMagic
03-15-2013, 03:17 PM
I hate the 3-4 as well.

well, at least the way the Chiefs use it lol

used

BossChief
03-15-2013, 03:20 PM
Haha

Call Hali and ask him to restructure at 8 million per year...cut Studebaker.

Sign Dumervil.

Kill Peyton.

ArrowheadMagic
03-15-2013, 03:24 PM
Haha

Call Hali and ask him to restructure at 8 million per year...cut Studebaker.

Sign Dumervil.

Kill Peyton.

Osi or Dumervil would be nice.

DTLB58
03-15-2013, 03:24 PM
John Clayton just on ESPN seems to think one viable option was that there is another team out there that wants him.
He pretty much talked as if Dumervil was moving on. ROFL

DaFace
03-15-2013, 03:25 PM
John Clayton just on ESPN seems to think one viable option was that there is another team out there that wants him.
He pretty much talked as if Dumervil was moving on. ROFL

Another theory is that the agent was trying to screw the Broncos by making them miss the deadline. That certainly would have been interesting.

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 03:25 PM
I don't hate the 3-4 but that'd be an awsome lineup. Doing multiple fronts we could do alot of things on passing downs with those guys.

We need to make a move and do it first and fast.

Moreover, while I don't care for DeVito at all as a 5-tech, I'd like him as a NT alongside Poe as the UT.

Jackson becomes a rotation player who can play some end on ...I can live with that. He can move to the ends on obvious running downs, move inside on passing downs and/or spell DeVito when needed.

MagicHef
03-15-2013, 03:26 PM
In 2004, TO's agent missed a deadline, and he and TO thought he was an FA, while he really still was SF's property. TO signed with one team, while SF traded him to another. The NFL stepped in and worked out a 3-team deal.

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 03:26 PM
Another theory is that the agent was trying to screw the Broncos by making them miss the deadline. That certainly would have been interesting.

No chance.

That agent's career is over and he's going to get bombed in litigation (most likely).

There's no way that agent did this on purpose.

Crush
03-15-2013, 03:27 PM
I can't recall a situation like this before. Anyone know?

When Terrell Owens signed with the Eagles, his agent did not get the proper paperwork in on time to nullify his 49ers contract. The 49ers then traded him to the Ravens. They worked out a 3-team trade to allow Owens to go to the Eagles.

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 03:27 PM
In 2004, TO's agent missed a deadline, and he and TO thought he was an FA, while he really still was SF's property. TO signed with one team, while SF traded him to another. The NFL stepped in and worked out a 3-team deal.

That was different - he was still 49ers property. That's the exact opposite of what happened here.

Like I said, the Broncos could have tried something like that, had they not cut him.

But they cut him. Deal's done.

Mavericks Ace
03-15-2013, 03:28 PM
couldnt happen to a more deserving franchise. I hate everything about the Donkeys. Maybe thats an undertone why i followed alex smith here so easily.

I have always hated them, will always hate them. Dont think there is a team other than the giants i hate more now that i think of it. maybe the seahawks.....

Nightfyre
03-15-2013, 03:30 PM
couldnt happen to a more deserving franchise. I hate everything about the Donkeys. Maybe thats an undertone why i followed alex smith here so easily.

I have always hated them, will always hate them. Dont think there is a team other than the giants i hate more now that i think of it. maybe the seahawks.....

Who stakes their football fandom on a player rather than a team? How do you have green rep. Get gone already.

DaFace
03-15-2013, 03:31 PM
Though this whole thing's kind of hilarious, it's really no different than Dumervil just refusing to sign, which was a very likely possibility even as of this morning. My guess is the Broncos just move on and look for a replacement.

DaFace
03-15-2013, 03:32 PM
Who stakes their football fandom on a player rather than a team? How do you have green rep. Get gone already.

It's not that uncommon. The Chiefs gained a lot of fans with Joe Montana.

Mavericks Ace
03-15-2013, 03:33 PM
Who stakes their football fandom on a player rather than a team? How do you have green rep. Get gone already.

quiet down army boy.....Mind your business. Dont worry about my rep. Dont worry about my fandom. Dont you have more important things to do, like watching out for the north korea nuclear threats.....back to work soldier boy. :thumb:

Nightfyre
03-15-2013, 03:34 PM
I try so hard to hate you and I just can't. Why do you do this to me?

Mavericks Ace
03-15-2013, 03:34 PM
It's not that uncommon. The Chiefs gained a lot of fans with Joe Montana.

For a similar reason. The 49er fans didnt like the way that joe was treated. I didnt like the way that alex was treated. Well said.

MagicHef
03-15-2013, 03:34 PM
That was different - he was still 49ers property. That's the exact opposite of what happened here.

Like I said, the Broncos could have tried something like that, had they not cut him.

But they cut him. Deal's done.

Please take a picture of your face when it's announced that Doom will be a Bronco with little to no negative impact.

Crush
03-15-2013, 03:36 PM
Please take a picture of your face when it's announced that Doom will be a Bronco with little to no negative impact.

ROFL

Keep telling yourself that Donkey.

Frazod
03-15-2013, 03:36 PM
It's not that uncommon. The Chiefs gained a lot of fans with Joe Montana.

Did you really just compare Smith to Montana? ROFL

Mavericks Ace
03-15-2013, 03:37 PM
Please take a picture of your face when it's announced that Doom will be a Bronco with little to no negative impact.

if he was insulted enough that they asked him to take a pay cut, he very well could leave. There are still teams out there looking for quality pass rushers....sayyyyy like the pats?

Bewbies
03-15-2013, 03:37 PM
Another theory is that the agent was trying to screw the Broncos by making them miss the deadline. That certainly would have been interesting.

The only way this happened is with Dumberville's full support. Keep an eye on whether the agent gets fired or not...

Amnorix
03-15-2013, 03:37 PM
Would love for someone (Pats would be fine with me) to swoop in and grab him.

DaFace
03-15-2013, 03:37 PM
Did you really just compare Smith to Montana? ROFL

No, I used Montana as an example to prove the point. Not sure why that's odd.

SNR
03-15-2013, 03:40 PM
For a similar reason. The 49er fans didnt like the way that joe was treated. I didnt like the way that alex was treated. Well said.

I didn't like the way Carl Peterson treated Jared Allen after Allen proved for almost a year that he was going to completely change his drinking habits and comply with whatever behavioral guidelines the team set out for him. He followed his end of the bargain, but the Chiefs didn't follow theirs.

That doesn't mean I suddenly liked the Vikings, or even that I kept rooting for Allen. I just stopped caring about what he did in the league. Brandon Carr was my favorite player on the team. When he signed with the Cowboys, I said, "Good for him. Got his money. No longer care about him."

Fairplay
03-15-2013, 03:40 PM
Would love for someone (Pats would be fine with me) to swoop in and grab him.


Atlanta would be interested also I would think.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 03:40 PM
Joe Montana was the biggest name in the NFL. Alex Smith isn't the fifth biggest name on his former team.

Mavericks Ace
03-15-2013, 03:41 PM
Did you really just compare Smith to Montana? ROFL

believe it or not, there are a lot of 49er fans who LOVED alex smith. I just like the GUY alex smith, they actually think hes elite, and shouldnt of lost his job to kaep.

im not THAT guy. I just respect the guy.....kaeps the way way way way better football player.

keg in kc
03-15-2013, 03:41 PM
I think with Jared Allen I was more like "thank god, I don't have to root for this redneck anymore".

something cooler
03-15-2013, 03:41 PM
If the pats get him, it's a winning offseason for them. I would trade Welker for Amendola and Dumerville straight up any day.

Mavericks Ace
03-15-2013, 03:42 PM
Joe Montana was the biggest name in the NFL. Alex Smith isn't the fifth biggest name on his former team.

but top 3 on your team.

charles, bowe, smith.

thats not really insulting when you have gore, davis, willis bowman, j smith, aldon smith and kaep on your team.

DTLB58
03-15-2013, 03:42 PM
@AlbertBreer: My understanding is, on top of the rest of it, Denver gave Dumervil a 1 pm MT deadline to accept the paycut. He verbally accepted at 1:25.

Sounds like these guys were habitual late or there is another team involved all along.

I'd say he doesn't resign with Denver.

Mavericks Ace
03-15-2013, 03:42 PM
I think with Jared Allen I was more like "thank god, I don't have to root for this redneck anymore".

hes suck a douche......really. they talk about him all the time up here, and it drives me nuts.

keg in kc
03-15-2013, 03:45 PM
but top 3 on your team.

charles, bowe, smith.

thats not really insulting when you have gore, davis, willis bowman, j smith, aldon smith and kaep on your team.Shows how much you know about this team. It's more like Charles, Bowe, Hali, Houston, Johnson, Flowers, Berry and then maybe Smith. Maybe.

something cooler
03-15-2013, 03:47 PM
Shows how much you know about this team. It's more like Charles, Bowe, Hali, Houston, Johnson, Flowers, Berry and then maybe Smith. Maybe.

Id put Albert above Smith.

chefsos
03-15-2013, 03:47 PM
Though this whole thing's kind of hilarious, it's really no different than Dumervil just refusing to sign, which was a very likely possibility even as of this morning. My guess is the Broncos just move on and look for a replacement.I think that's exactly what he did, without openly refusing. He obviously didn't want to sign it, dragged his feet, the deal got fucked up. And he ended up a FA. I don't think it's coincidental. Hell, the more I think about it, it seems more and more like he held the hammer in this thing. He was either gonna get $12M, or be a FA.

MagicHef
03-15-2013, 03:48 PM
I think that's exactly what he did, without openly refusing. He obviously didn't want to sign it, dragged his feet, the deal got ****ed up. And he ended up a FA. I don't think it's coincidental. Hell, the more I think about it, it seems more and more like he held the hammer in this thing. He was either gonna get $12M, or be a FA.

He texted some of his friends shortly before all the nonsense, saying that he was going to be staying in Denver.

Mavericks Ace
03-15-2013, 03:49 PM
Shows how much you know about this team. It's more like Charles, Bowe, Hali, Houston, Johnson, Flowers, Berry and then maybe Smith. Maybe.

To chiefs fans maybe. Not to the rest of the country........

I know quite a bit about the chiefs. Im just stating opinion. THe 49ers, are more well known than the chiefs. Fair?:thumb:

GoChargers
03-15-2013, 03:50 PM
Atlanta would be interested also I would think.
Maybe the Chargers at the right price? Hard to imagine the prospect of Dumervil and Ingram off the edges not sounding appealing to Telesco.

keg in kc
03-15-2013, 03:50 PM
To chiefs fans maybe. Not to the rest of the country........Anybody who knows anything about the NFL would recognize at least the Chiefs pro-bowlers.

Alex Smith is just another guy.

Mavericks Ace
03-15-2013, 03:52 PM
I didn't like the way Carl Peterson treated Jared Allen after Allen proved for almost a year that he was going to completely change his drinking habits and comply with whatever behavioral guidelines the team set out for him. He followed his end of the bargain, but the Chiefs didn't follow theirs.

That doesn't mean I suddenly liked the Vikings, or even that I kept rooting for Allen. I just stopped caring about what he did in the league. Brandon Carr was my favorite player on the team. When he signed with the Cowboys, I said, "Good for him. Got his money. No longer care about him."

Thats fair. I get it. But this goes back to when I was a boy.

Watching my favorite player be let go in tom rathman, to the RAIDERS, followed by ronnie lott, followed by roger craig, to seeing charles haley sent to the RIVAL COWBOYS, helping them win super bowls.

This wasnt a think for a 30 year fan to say, oh well you guys traded alex smith, im out. More of a personel choice that was 3 decades in the making. The perverbial straw that broke the camels back. Furthermore, not being able to talk football without it always becoming an attack fest is another. I live in wisconsin. The only way i can talk face to face with football fans, is to talk packers.


FUCK THAT......

Mavericks Ace
03-15-2013, 03:53 PM
Anybody who knows anything about the NFL would recognize at least the Chiefs pro-bowlers.

Alex Smith is just another guy.

Fair enough.

i would say that a lot more people know alex from his comparisons to rodgers, and then from his playoff win. But you are correct, i apologize, i sold you guys short.

Fairplay
03-15-2013, 03:58 PM
He texted some of his friends shortly before all the nonsense, saying that he was going to be staying in Denver.


Now that other teams can feel free to make him offers he can definitely change his mind.

Crush
03-15-2013, 03:58 PM
He texted some of his friends shortly before all the nonsense, saying that he was going to be staying in Denver.

Now he's a free agent.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 04:03 PM
Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt

Talked to another team exec who talked to agent, who says Denver didn't send to new contract to him until 8 mins before deadline.



Yeah this is on Elway

silver5liter
03-15-2013, 04:03 PM
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo

Just spoke Elvis Dumervil's agent. He's pointing the finger back at the Broncos. Writing it up now.

Fairplay
03-15-2013, 04:06 PM
Elway will make his comments shortly on the latest developments, he is almost done filming a Coors commercial.

Mr. Laz
03-15-2013, 04:06 PM
probably won't happen, but i hope another team swoops in now and steals him

A Salt Weapon
03-15-2013, 04:06 PM
Anybody who knows anything about the NFL would recognize at least the Chiefs pro-bowlers.

Like casshole?
Posted via Mobile Device

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 04:09 PM
probably won't happen, but i hope another team swoops in now and steals him

Why would Denver want him back? Some team will give him 6m. He counts like 4.2m vs the cap now. If Denver matches that offer that's 10.2m vs the cap in 2013.

Pawnmower
03-15-2013, 04:09 PM
I know quite a bit about the chiefs.

FUCK YOU

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 04:11 PM
Why would Denver want him back? Some team will give him 6m. He counts like 4.2m vs the cap now. If Denver matches that offer that's 10.2m vs the cap in 2013.

The 4.2 is a sunk cost.

If they get a similar pass rusher, he's going to cost $6-8 million as well and not have the familiarity that Elvis does.

Unless they're content with not having the pass rusher, they're better served by re-signing him and dealing with the administrative !@#$up, presuming the scars will heal.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 04:12 PM
The 4.2 is a sunk cost.

If they get a similar pass rusher, he's going to cost $6-8 million as well and not have the familiarity that Elvis does.

Unless they're content with not having the pass rusher, they're better served by re-signing him and dealing with the administrative !@#$up, presuming the scars will heal.

Dwight Freeney wont cost them 6m.

philfree
03-15-2013, 04:17 PM
It's Mannings fault. He wants Freeney to be one of his BFFs in Denver.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 04:17 PM
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Marty Magid, agent for Dumervil, said he did not receive revised contract tile 3:42ET and Elvis was faxing it back at 3:55, when DEN cut him

Chieftain58
03-15-2013, 04:18 PM
Love it!

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-15-2013, 04:19 PM
Ridiculous. Horsey is a buffoon.

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 04:20 PM
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Magid said he hasn't talked to DEN since it broke down, has talked to other teams, "will take a deep breath" and reassess situation

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 04:21 PM
Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt

Sounds like Broncos and agent will have different versions of the Dumervil saga. But player released and still counts $4.8M on cap.



4.8M Fuck up gotta love it.

philfree
03-15-2013, 04:21 PM
Does Dumervil tweet? Chiefs fans need to tweet him to KC.

ChiefRocka
03-15-2013, 04:21 PM
This is an official thread though.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-15-2013, 04:23 PM
Does Dumervil tweet? Chiefs fans need to tweet him to KC.

Yeah I'm sure he's itching to be a 3rd pass rusher.

DJ's left nut
03-15-2013, 04:25 PM
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Marty Magid, agent for Dumervil, said he did not receive revised contract tile 3:42ET and Elvis was faxing it back at 3:55, when DEN cut him

Mmmmm.....sweet sweet sour grapes.

C'mon Elvis - we'll give you 2 cracks/season at 'em.

Time to make some phonecalls and talk to Sutton about that 4-3 conversion, John.

something cooler
03-15-2013, 04:26 PM
I'd cut/trade Hali at this point in favor of Elvis. And hali is my favorite player on the team.

philfree
03-15-2013, 04:27 PM
Yeah I'm sure he's itching to be a 3rd pass rusher.

We could make it fit. Just have to think outside the box a little.

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-15-2013, 04:29 PM
We could make it fit. Just have to think outside the box a little.

TAMDOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM

philfree
03-15-2013, 04:29 PM
I'd cut/trade Hali at this point in favor of Elvis. And hali is my favorite player on the team.

Houston can't be costing us much of anything at this point. We've alread spent alot of money but as far OLB/pass rushers go we could afford all three.

philfree
03-15-2013, 04:30 PM
TAMDOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM

:LOL:

listopencil
03-15-2013, 04:34 PM
I think that's exactly what he did, without openly refusing. He obviously didn't want to sign it, dragged his feet, the deal got ****ed up. And he ended up a FA. I don't think it's coincidental. Hell, the more I think about it, it seems more and more like he held the hammer in this thing. He was either gonna get $12M, or be a FA.

From what I am reading it was Dumervil and his agent dragging their feet. It was either sign that deal or be cut. They accepted an offer at the last minute but didn't get the paperwork to the Broncos in time, so the Broncos cut Dumervil just as they said that they were going to.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-15-2013, 04:37 PM
Give him a $15 million dollar signing bonus and work out a five year deal with base salaries escalating from the vet minimum this year to a higher figure at the end.

Shitcan him after three years.
???
Profit.

He'd only have a cap figure of 3+ million this year.

listopencil
03-15-2013, 04:37 PM
This information was out there before but it bears repeating now that he has been cut:

"The immediate result of Denver cutting Dumervil is an accelerated dead money hit of $4.869M to the team's 2013 cap, and a net savings of $8.754M."

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/but-wait-theres-more-to-dumervil-situation-elvis-released

ChiefsandO'sfan
03-15-2013, 04:37 PM
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

More from Marty Magid: "We tried to get it done. They called me at 1:55 and said we're going to have to cut him. I said, it's coming thru"

MagicHef
03-15-2013, 04:38 PM
From OM, made me laugh:


Quinton Carter tried to throw an extra page in the fax machine when no one was looking.

philfree
03-15-2013, 04:41 PM
Give him a $15 million dollar signing bonus and work out a five year deal with base salaries escalating from the vet minimum this year to a higher figure at the end.

Shitcan him after three years.
???
Profit.

He'd only have a cap figure of 3+ million this year.

I would love to steal this guy from the donks. And then I'd like to ruin their SB dreams with the best pass rush in the league.

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-15-2013, 04:44 PM
Fax got lost in the mail