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crossbow
03-16-2013, 06:22 PM
I need to remodel my tent. What is the best way to remove old wall paper? Seriously, I think the last guy used super glue.

JASONSAUTO
03-16-2013, 06:24 PM
Piss on it. repeat every time you feel the need to urinate. In three Weeks it will fall off.


Man I'm glad I've never had wall paper
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TribalElder
03-16-2013, 06:30 PM
Steam and peel

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 06:34 PM
Pump sprayer with water and a mudknife. Go gently as you dont want to tear up the dry wall. Get off the wallpaper then use the pump sprayer on the glue and a mudknife

LoneWolf
03-16-2013, 06:39 PM
As said before, pump sprayer and mud knife. Also, make sure to take plenty of snow coffee breaks. Wallpaper removal is hard work.

MrGiggity
03-16-2013, 06:40 PM
I JIZZ ON MY WALLPAPAH THEN STYK IT TO TEH WALL.

alpha_omega
03-16-2013, 06:41 PM
This task totally sucks.

LoneWolf
03-16-2013, 06:42 PM
I JIZZ ON MY WALLPAPAH THEN STYK IT TO TEH WALL.

Are those lyrics from a Lil Wayne song? That guy is super talented.

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 06:42 PM
I dont mind doing it actually. Skimming the walls with joint compound and sanding that is the pain in the ass

MrGiggity
03-16-2013, 06:43 PM
Are those lyrics from a Lil Wayne song? That guy is super talented.

NO ITS FROM BIG WANG. HES ASIAN.

LoneWolf
03-16-2013, 06:45 PM
NO ITS FROM BIG WANG. HES ASIAN.

Can't be true. No Asian has ever been called Big Wang.

MrGiggity
03-16-2013, 06:47 PM
Can't be true. No Asian has ever been called Big Wang.

HA WHAT YOU DID THERE.....I SEE IT. ASIAN HAS SMALL PENINI

ChiefButthurt
03-16-2013, 06:52 PM
Hot water...little soap in a spray bottle. Peel the first layer of the wallpaper...the glue remains. Use the warm soapy water on the glue, use a wide putty knife. And lots of patience. This process will take a couple of hours per wall. Next thing on your list...NEVER put up wallpaper in your life. It's outdated anyway.

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 06:58 PM
Just remember careful taking the glue off. The smoother the underneath sheetrock the better your wall will look and for fucks sake use Sherwin Williams Duration Home Matte Finish paint. Its the best on the market. Ive been painting with my dad for 8 years. Its durable and washable

Spott
03-16-2013, 07:11 PM
I've done it a few times using vinegar and water and it's worked really well. I used a pump sprayer to do it and made sure I got it behind the wallpaper to the glue so the vinegar would work well to dissolve the glue. When it starts peeling you can use a paint scraper(gently) to peel the wall paper and the glue off. Your house will smell like vinegar for a day or so but you will save a ton of time and money doing that way.

AustinChief
03-16-2013, 07:13 PM
HA WHAT YOU DID THERE.....I SEE IT. ASIAN HAS SMALL PENINI

Nothing like a nice hot Penini! Yum!

tk13
03-16-2013, 07:15 PM
Find a picture you like. Right click > Set as Wallpaper.

aturnis
03-16-2013, 07:24 PM
There is a product for this. It comes in a windex-like spray bottle, but is more of a gel. Spray it on, wait, and remove. It works remarkably well.

aturnis
03-16-2013, 07:27 PM
This.

http://mydbsupply.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/370x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/W/A/WALLPAPER_REMOVER_GEL_SPRAY__1.png

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 07:33 PM
I didnt really care for dif. To be honest, remove the wallpaper, warm water in a pump sprayer and a wide mudknife and that will easily take off the wallpaper

crossbow
03-16-2013, 07:44 PM
You guys are the best !!!

I got one entire wall cleaned. Just need to make sure the paste is totaly off. What is a good product that makes sure the wall is totaly smooth and flat before I prime it?

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 07:44 PM
You guys are the best !!!

I got one entire wall cleaned. Just need to make sure the paste is totaly off. What is a good product that makes sure the wall is totaly smooth and flat before I prime it?

Let the wall dry overnight. Then prime the walls with a flat paint.

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 07:45 PM
You guys are the best !!!

I got one entire wall cleaned. Just need to make sure the paste is totaly off. What is a good product that makes sure the wall is totaly smooth and flat before I prime it?

Take some sandpaper like 150 grit and sand the walls completely smooth, then prime

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 08:04 PM
i dunno if anyone posted it yet, but ive used one of the roller-tools to prick lots of holes in the wallpaper b4 using the gel

http://www.walmart.com/ip/17011348?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=21486607510&wl4=&wl5=pla&veh=sem <----cheap


http://www.toolking.com/zinsser-2976-triple-head-wallpaper-remover-tool?CAWELAID=1410722171&catargetid=1436452153&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CI7q_cDUgrYCFW3ZQgodB28A9g <--- better


after pricking the holes, then use the gels or the mixes with warm water, comes off easy peasy

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 08:05 PM
Ah pawnmower ive found it just easier to peel the wallpaper

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 08:06 PM
You guys are the best !!!

I got one entire wall cleaned. Just need to make sure the paste is totaly off. What is a good product that makes sure the wall is totaly smooth and flat before I prime it?

flat as in there is no texture?

just trying to be clear

Shogun
03-16-2013, 08:06 PM
Ive been told my gas peels off wallpaper. Perhaps you could pay me $100 to come watch March Madness at your house?

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 08:07 PM
Ah pawnmower ive found it just easier to peel the wallpaper

cool, ive found taking a couple minutes to quickly pass over it works great, but i guess it depends on the glue maybe....if it comes up without gel or heat.....WIN

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 08:09 PM
Ya it might depend on how tight the wallpaper is. Now if the wallpaper is tight, i use coverstain to prime the walls its oil based so the wallpaper doesnt bubble like latex primer will, then i use joint compound to skim the seams, prime and paint. Sometimes its easier to prime and paint the wallpaper

Bugeater
03-16-2013, 08:10 PM
Water, a sponge and a 4" razor scraper is all I ever use to remove wallpaper. All those chemicals are a waste of money.

Shogun
03-16-2013, 08:11 PM
Bugeater does it like the cavemen did it. I can respect that.

wheeler08
03-16-2013, 08:11 PM
Awesome thread. I'm doing my kitchen and bedroom memorial day week and didn't know what I was gettin into.

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 08:12 PM
Ya it might depend on how tight the wallpaper is. Now if the wallpaper is tight, i use coverstain to prime the walls its oil based so the wallpaper doesnt bubble like latex primer will, then i use joint compound to skim the seams, prime and paint. Sometimes its easier to prime and paint the wallpaper

I'm pretty much in with this plan..........and i'm pretty decent with texture , so i can match any areas that look off

Bugeater
03-16-2013, 08:15 PM
Awesome thread. I'm doing my kitchen and bedroom memorial day week and didn't know what I was gettin into.
You will be hating life 4 hours into it. Guaranteed.

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 08:17 PM
Coverstain is the best primer, its stinky but locks the shit in and kicks ass. I also like using polar bear roller naps. They are great. Now remember OP and any others who will be painting, take masking tape and tape your roller nap then peel it to get any loose fuzz off so you wont get that shit in your paint

Bugeater
03-16-2013, 08:17 PM
And FFS, don't paint over wallpaper unless there is absolutely no way in hell of getting it off. I've probably done at least 100 wallpaper removal jobs, and only twice did I have to go that route.

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 08:19 PM
And FFS, don't paint over wallpaper unless there is absolutely no way in hell of getting it off. I've probably done at least 100 wallpaper removal jobs, and only twice did I have to go that route.

The only way I do that is if me and my dad who owns his painting business, if the customer doesnt want to pay for removal

Bugeater
03-16-2013, 08:23 PM
The only way I do that is if me and my dad who owns his painting business, if the customer doesnt want to pay for removal
By the time I fuck around with priming with oil and spend all the time hiding the seams and other shit they won't save that much with me. And if they're happy with it looking like shit they may as well paint it themselves.

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 08:26 PM
By the time I **** around with priming with oil and spend all the time hiding the seams and other shit they won't save that much with me. And if they're happy with it looking like shit they may as well paint it themselves.

Well it takes no time for us to prime it and lightly skim any needed areas. Usually the seams are so tight we dont have to. Its actually an easy process

Bugeater
03-16-2013, 08:30 PM
Well it takes no time for us to prime it and lightly skim any needed areas. Usually the seams are so tight we dont have to. Its actually an easy process
If whoever put it up did a good job it definitely helps. I just don't like dealing with oil base paint. You're going to pay a premium if you want me to mess with that crap.

mikeyis4dcats.
03-16-2013, 08:31 PM
use a paper tiger and warm water in a spray bottle.

if it's real bad you may have to rent a steam box.

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 08:32 PM
If whoever put it up did a good job it definitely helps. I just don't like dealing with oil base paint. You're going to pay a premium if you want me to mess with that crap.

Well its not that messy we use coverstain, a cheap brush and roller. Not really messy if you get used to it. Oil paint is the best though.

crossbow
03-16-2013, 08:49 PM
If the walls have a bad stain on them will Coverstain hide it so the paint ends up having an even hue and brightness to it? Or do I get out the Kilz?

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 08:52 PM
If the walls have a bad stain on them will Coverstain hide it so the paint ends up having an even hue and brightness to it? Or do I get out the Kilz?

killz should do it, especially the oil based killz

even the water based one will work from my experience tho

Bugeater
03-16-2013, 08:53 PM
If the walls have a bad stain on them will Coverstain hide it so the paint ends up having an even hue and brightness to it? Or do I get out the Kilz?
I've never used Coverstain but I'd imagine it's pretty much the same thing as Kilz. Anything oil-based will seal that stain.

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 08:54 PM
If the walls have a bad stain on them will Coverstain hide it so the paint ends up having an even hue and brightness to it? Or do I get out the Kilz?

Use a mini roller, for the love of god dont use Kilz. lol it sucks. Use coverstain, its great. You can also get it in an aerosol can

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 08:56 PM
I've never used Coverstain but I'd imagine it's pretty much the same thing as Kilz. Anything oil-based will seal that stain.

No Kilz is water based. All Kilz that Ive seen. Through my different use of primers, coverstain is the best blocking primer

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 08:56 PM
Use a mini roller, for the love of god dont use Kilz. lol it sucks.

derp ford sucks


herp chevy sucks


killz is fine


if the dude has a gallon of killz around dont tell him to go out and spend more

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 08:57 PM
Coverstain is the best.

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 08:59 PM
Coverstain is the best.


i dont care enough to argue and i havent tested every single primer in every single situation (but im sure you have)

but i have painted and remodeled hundreds of apartments, including cat pissed sub floors and tobacco smoke stink pits


and yet somehow ive never needed or used coverstain

ymmv

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 09:01 PM
i dont care enough to argue and i havent tested every single primer in every single situation (but im sure you have)

but i have painted and remodeled hundreds of apartments, including cat pissed sub floors and tobacco smoke stink pits


and yet somehow ive never needed or used coverstain

ymmv

Well im not trying to argue, everything Ive heard is Killz isnt that good.

Bugeater
03-16-2013, 09:03 PM
No Kilz is water based. All Kilz that Ive seen. Through my different use of primers, coverstain is the best blocking primer
Original Kilz is oil-based. Kilz2 is semi-acryilic but for all practical purposes it's water-based, and actually works quite well for many applications.

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 09:04 PM
Well im not trying to argue, everything Ive heard is Killz isnt that good.

it may be different elsewhere.....i have no idea

but in cali, killz is one of the few oil based primers you can easily find everywhere........seems to work fine for the last 20 years

i have used other brands, i dont recall anything that works better...

although the paint i usually use is 'kelly-moore' which i find to be the best overall, but i dont think i have used their oil-based primer...if they have one

no idea if kelly-moore is really the best, its just from experience thats my preference

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 09:05 PM
Ive never seen Kilz oil based. Coverstain is what is used here in south carolina with the building boom from a few years ago. The water based kilz doesnt block stains well is what ive heard. Ive always used coverstain, youve always used Kilz so i guess its user preference

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 09:06 PM
it may be different elsewhere.....i have no idea

but in cali, killz is one of the few oil based primers you can easily find everywhere........seems to work fine for the last 20 years

i have used other brands, i dont recall anything that works better...

although the paint i usually use is 'kelly-moore' which i find to be the best overall, but i dont think i have used their oil-based primer...if they have one

no idea if kelly-moore is really the best, its just from experience thats my preference

Ive notice coverstain is hard to find, its popular here, but where i used to live in ohio its hard to find because it isnt used as much as SC

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 09:07 PM
it may be different elsewhere.....i have no idea

but in cali, killz is one of the few oil based primers you can easily find everywhere........seems to work fine for the last 20 years

i have used other brands, i dont recall anything that works better...

although the paint i usually use is 'kelly-moore' which i find to be the best overall, but i dont think i have used their oil-based primer...if they have one

no idea if kelly-moore is really the best, its just from experience thats my preference

My favorite paint is Sherwin Williams Duration Home matte finish, its great. And paints so smooth and nice

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 09:07 PM
Ive never seen Kilz oil based. Coverstain is what is used here in south carolina with the building boom from a few years ago. The water based kilz doesnt block stains well is what ive heard. Ive always used coverstain, youve always used Kilz so i guess its user preference

yah ive never used the acryllic water based killz.(so i have no opinion).....as i use kelly moore normally

but original oil based killz is great, imo

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 09:09 PM
My favorite paint is Sherwin Williams Duration Home matte finish, its great. And paints so smooth and nice

i used to use a lot of SW, especially when they made the sears paint in the 90's (they still might)

it is great paint, for sure

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 09:09 PM
yah ive never used the acryllic water based killz.(so i have no opinion).....as i use kelly moore normally

but original oil based killz is great, imo

Ok well they dont have Kilz oil based here i dont think. Never seen it so thats my bad and my mixup sorry

Buzz
03-16-2013, 09:17 PM
Hey look, another my penis is bigger than your penis thread, who would have thunk?

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 09:19 PM
Hey look, another my penis is bigger than your penis thread, who would have thunk?

The OP asked for help I was giving my opinion go lick your taint

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 09:24 PM
Hey look, another my penis is bigger than your penis thread, who would have thunk?

I actually thought it was a pretty good thread, good info & opinions

but i dont have a small penis like you

so im not all sensative like a broad

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 09:24 PM
I actually thought it was a pretty good thread, good info & opinions

but i dont have a small penis like you

so im not all sensative like a broad

ROFL

Buzz
03-16-2013, 09:27 PM
glad I could be of service.

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 09:28 PM
glad I could be of service.
:thumb:

threebag02
03-16-2013, 09:58 PM
Bleach and Ammonia and a spray bottle.
















Do not use

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 10:02 PM
Bleach and Ammonia and a spray bottle.















Do not use

ROFL i was about to say wooo dont breath that in

crossbow
03-16-2013, 11:17 PM
dtchiefs4life and pawnmower are both obviously experienced and skilled craftsmen. I appreciate your opinions. So one more question:


Does Alex Smith suck? (crickets...)

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 11:19 PM
No he doesnt. He's not elite but he's won a playoff game and had them almost in the super bowl. We can win with him. I dont know about a super bowl everythings gota go right but fuck it im going to give him a chance

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 11:24 PM
dtchiefs4life and pawnmower are both obviously experienced and skilled craftsmen. I appreciate your opinions. So one more question:


Does Alex Smith suck? (crickets...)

ROFLROFL

I really honestly hope not....but even if he plays at the top of what he has done, he isn't going to lead us anywhere unless we have a top 5 defense and running game that takes us anyway......

I'll admit I'm biased...I don't like the move at all....but I also live here and have seen plenty over the years.

OTOH I won't be rooting against him....I really want him to light it up come game day.

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 11:31 PM
We will have the running game

Pawnmower
03-16-2013, 11:39 PM
:kc:PBJPBJPBJ:hump::hump::hump:PBJPBJ:grouphug:PBJ:hump::hump::hump::dom::spank::toast::toast::toast ::toast::toast:We will have the running game





**** yes bro lets hope so

MotherfuckerJones
03-16-2013, 11:54 PM
:kc:PBJPBJPBJ:hump::hump::hump:PBJPBJ:grouphug:PBJ:hump::hump::hump::dom::spank::toast::toast::toast ::toast::toast:





**** yes bro lets hope so

Charles will be fine. 2nd year off knee injury he'll be more in attack mode

Earthling
03-17-2013, 12:01 AM
I use to use kilz and had a job that the stains kept bleeding thru, even after 4 applications (oil based kilz). Never tried coverstain but ended up using Zinzer Bullseye and it blocked the stains that kilz didn't. Used it from then on. Cheaper than kilz and not nearly as strong an odor. I'm wondering if different environments have different effects with the products...mine being a desert environment.

MotherfuckerJones
03-17-2013, 12:08 AM
I use to use kilz and had a job that the stains kept bleeding thru, even after 4 applications (oil based kilz). Never tried coverstain but ended up using Zinzer Bullseye and it blocked the stains that kilz didn't. Used it from then on. Cheaper than kilz and not nearly as strong an odor. I'm wondering if different environments have different effects with the products...mine being a desert environment.

And see im down south near the beach. So coverstain is really popular here. And no stains ever come back. The only thing we dont really use it on are rusty spots outside. We use a prime that is used on ships and shit

Earthling
03-17-2013, 12:13 AM
And see im down south near the beach. So coverstain is really popular here. And no stains ever come back. The only thing we dont really use it on are rusty spots outside. We use a prime that is used on ships and shit

Use a lot of millex or similar for anti-mold I would recon' as well there...??

MotherfuckerJones
03-17-2013, 12:16 AM
Use a lot of millex or similar for anti-mold I would recon' as well there...??

No just make sure when we paint outside we bleach and wash the area we paint to kill any mildew

Earthling
03-17-2013, 12:29 AM
No just make sure when we paint outside we bleach and wash the area we paint to kill any mildew

:thumb:

wheeler08
03-17-2013, 04:42 AM
You will be hating life 4 hours into it. Guaranteed.

I think I already do after reading all of this....I better stock up on beer...