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KILLER_CLOWN
04-26-2013, 12:25 PM
Date: Thursday, 25-Apr-2013 23:06:23

In Response To: Federal bill would require labeling of genetically modified food (RumorMail)

Maybe its time to 'Look for the Kosher Label'?

As much as I hate to admit it, this should make a big difference in getting rid of those GMOs or at least forcing them to label. Maryhrt

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/kosher-certification-program-bans-all-gmo-ingredients_042013

Kosher Certification Program Bans All GMO Ingredients

April 25th, 2013

One group after another is denouncing the genetically modified poison on grocery store shelves, adding to the chorus of voices demanding real untainted food.

Natural Food Certifiers has announced today that any food product that contains GMOs is no longer eligible to be certified as kosher under their “Apple K” kosher certification program.

“NFC was very proud to introduce the first “Natural Only” kosher supervision,” said NFC Director Rabbi Reuven Flamer. “It’s a logical application of our principle, ‘Start Naturally. Stay that Way.’ Therefore, the Natural Apple K cannot be placed on a product that contains GMOs,” Flamer explained.

“While according to the strict letter of Kosher food law a GMO food ingredient is not prohibited, in our view it is not natural. Additionally, there is a Torah (religious)-based law to ‘guard your health’. GMOs are the number-one growing concern among health-conscious consumers and for businesses in the natural and organic food market, as well as in the conventional food industry,” said Rabbi Flamer.

“Recent studies show that GMOs may cause various kinds of health problems from digestive disturbances to food allergies, and that GMOs require more herbicides, which is really the opposite reason why GMOs were touted to be so environmentally helpful in the first place,” Rabbi Flamer added. “For all of the many reasons that GMOs raise a red flag, consumers simply don’t want them in their foods, and our clients want to accommodate their customers.”

Over the next 12 months, the company will phase out the certification of any product that contains GMO ingredients, and will no longer accept applications for certification of products that contain GMOs.

Apple K KosherNFC has numerous natural food certification programs, including USDA Organic certification, Kosher
Certification (under the “Apple K” label), Vegan certification, and Gluten Guard, a gluten-free assurance program.

Each product submitted by a manufacturer for approval is carefully analyzed. The press release explains the process for all of the certification categories. “The process may include, but is not limited to, a request and review of the ingredient deck including country of origin and certificate of analysis, product testing, as well as inspection of manufacturing facilities.”

Whether or not your faith requires you to follow the Kosher food laws, this news should be celebrated by anyone who hopes to see the demise of Monsanto and the products created by their mad scientists. While countries across the world are banning GMOs, the wheels are moving slowly in North America to even have GMOs labeled so that consumers can make an informed decision. To have a large demographic refuse to allow genetically modified material in their food is yet another volley against the corruption that is evident in the unholy alliance of the FDA and Monsanto.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=275190

Although just a rumor I hope it's true! Kosher ftw!

Pitt Gorilla
04-26-2013, 12:47 PM
Buy locally grown food. Problem=solved.

KILLER_CLOWN
04-26-2013, 12:47 PM
Buy locally grown food. Problem=solved.

Not always, but yes that has some validity.

Fish
04-26-2013, 12:49 PM
“While according to the strict letter of Kosher food law a GMO food ingredient is not prohibited, in our view it is not natural. Additionally, there is a Torah (religious)-based law to ‘guard your health’.

LMAO...

chiefzilla1501
04-27-2013, 07:57 AM
As I've said many times....
You have the freedom to put, for the most part, whatever you want in your body whether that's sugary soda, fatty foods, etc.... But you should at least be allowed to know what it is you're putting into your body.

Without question there should be a requirement for GMO labels.

Dave Lane
04-27-2013, 08:09 AM
As I've said many times....
You have the freedom to put, for the most part, whatever you want in your body whether that's sugary soda, fatty foods, etc.... But you should at least be allowed to know what it is you're putting into your body.

Without question there should be a requirement for GMO labels.

So everything in the supermarket will say GMO on it then. You do realize that humans have genetically modified all grains and all animals for centuries right?

chiefzilla1501
04-27-2013, 08:21 AM
So everything in the supermarket will say GMO on it then. You do realize that humans have genetically modified all grains and all animals for centuries right?

You are never going to get it perfect. But you have retailers like Whole Foods that are going to require their suppliers label as GMO. And they'll have plenty non-GMO, likely, to stock their shelves. Is the labeling going to be perfect? No. Is it going to be much better than nothing? Absolutely yes.

It disgusts me how poor our labeling practices are in the U.S. Anything that helps educate the consumer on what they are eating is a good thing.

Fish
04-27-2013, 10:05 AM
But you should at least be allowed to know what it is you're putting into your body.

Without question there should be a requirement for GMO labels.


It disgusts me how poor our labeling practices are in the U.S. Anything that helps educate the consumer on what they are eating is a good thing.

Ohh boo fucking hoo. You are the consumer. Let's not forget that. Someone else planted the food. Someone else tended to its growth. Someone else watered it. Someone else picked the food. Someone else gathered and transported the food. Someone else packaged the food. Someone else shipped the food to the supermarket. Someone else put the food on the shelf. So that you could simply drive your lazy ass to the supermarket.

But yet, you're selfish enough to demand changes to this entire system, which you had absolutely no part of. Changes which would raise the price of nearly every item you buy. Which you would of course also bitch about. It would also reduce the profit of every single one of the people that actually had a hand in bringing that food to you, so you could simply consume it and make more demands. Each step of the process above was carried out by a different person, and they all would lose profit and be forced to make expensive changes their entire system.

And you know what the result would be? 99.9999% of the products in the supermarket contain GMOs. But now each of those items costs at least $1 more than it used to. Because expensive changes had to be made at damn near every step of the process from planting to the supermarket shelf. All because you have an irrational fear of something you've been eating your entire life.

It disgusts me how ignorant people can demand changes to something they don't understand and had no part of. Especially when those demanding changes can't even identify why GMOs are bad for you. They posts pics of of ears of corn, and supposedly let the squirrel's taste preferences determine the quality and safety of GMOs. Squirrel brains seem appropriate I suppose...

A Salt Weapon
04-27-2013, 10:28 AM
Bravo, Fish.

:Applause:

KILLER_CLOWN
04-27-2013, 10:30 AM
Ohh boo ****ing hoo. You are the consumer. Let's not forget that. Someone else planted the food. Someone else tended to its growth. Someone else watered it. Someone else picked the food. Someone else gathered and transported the food. Someone else packaged the food. Someone else shipped the food to the supermarket. Someone else put the food on the shelf. So that you could simply drive your lazy ass to the supermarket.

But yet, you're selfish enough to demand changes to this entire system, which you had absolutely no part of. Changes which would raise the price of nearly every item you buy. Which you would of course also bitch about. It would also reduce the profit of every single one of the people that actually had a hand in bringing that food to you, so you could simply consume it and make more demands. Each step of the process above was carried out by a different person, and they all would lose profit and be forced to make expensive changes their entire system.

And you know what the result would be? 99.9999% of the products in the supermarket contain GMOs. But now each of those items costs at least $1 more than it used to. Because expensive changes had to be made at damn near every step of the process from planting to the supermarket shelf. All because you have an irrational fear of something you've been eating your entire life.

It disgusts me how ignorant people can demand changes to something they don't understand and had no part of. Especially when those demanding changes can't even identify why GMOs are bad for you. They posts pics of of ears of corn, and supposedly let the squirrel's taste preferences determine the quality and safety of GMOs. Squirrel brains seem appropriate I suppose...

I'm happy you don't expect much, it's a good thing you don't speak for all of us.

Fish
04-27-2013, 10:52 AM
I'm happy you don't expect much, it's a good thing you don't speak for all of us.

You want a guarantee of what you eat and how it was created? Grow your own. Otherwise you're just bitching about something you have no part of.

People make their livelihoods out of providing you the opportunity to drive to the store and have any food item you want available for purchase. And you have no clue what that means or how it's done. And you think a magic new GMO sticker on everything is going to somehow make a difference in something.

You can't prove any negative health effects from consuming GMOs. Nobody has, despite the fact that GMOs are the highest regulated food stuff in history. So you hang on the whiny "People should have a choice". Well the piglet sucking on the teat can't really demand choices. If you don't like it, go grow your own, and you'll have total control over the entire process, from seed to turd. There's your choice, you've had it the whole time. Otherwise, you're just whining about the incredible convenience modern supermarkets provide. There are still parts of the world living on potatoes and starch roots, and you're demanding new labeling for no reason. Do you have any idea how much it cost to implement the Nutrition labeling on all foods back in the day? You completely underestimate what a change like that would cost.

KILLER_CLOWN
04-27-2013, 10:58 AM
You want a guarantee of what you eat and how it was created? Grow your own. Otherwise you're just bitching about something you have no part of.

People make their livelihoods out of providing you the opportunity to drive to the store and have any food item you want available for purchase. And you have no clue what that means or how it's done. And you think a magic new GMO sticker on everything is going to somehow make a difference in something.

You can't prove any negative health effects from consuming GMOs. Nobody has, despite the fact that GMOs are the highest regulated food stuff in history. So you hang on the whiny "People should have a choice". Well the piglet sucking on the teat can't really demand choices. If you don't like it, go grow your own, and you'll have total control over the entire process, from seed to turd. There's your choice, you've had it the whole time. Otherwise, you're just whining about the incredible convenience modern supermarkets provide. There are still parts of the world living on potatoes and starch roots, and you're demanding new labeling for no reason. Do you have any idea how much it cost to implement the Nutrition labeling on all foods back in the day? You completely underestimate what a change like that would cost.

You have blinders on, there are MANY studies showing links to GMO with Cancer to Organ failures and other diseases. Yes I see what it costs to label as I BUY THOSE FOODS NOW THAT ARE PROPERLY LABELED.

Fish
04-27-2013, 11:07 AM
You have blinders on, there are MANY studies showing links to GMO with Cancer to Organ failures and other diseases. Yes I see what it costs to label as I BUY THOSE FOODS NOW THAT ARE PROPERLY LABELED.

No there aren't. Just massive amounts of misinformation. No studies have conclusively proven any harmful effects in humans. And study is of course ongoing all over the world.

Your own article admits as much:

“While according to the strict letter of Kosher food law a GMO food ingredient is not prohibited, in our view it is not natural."

They based their decision on the opinion of it being not natural. Not safety reasons.

Pitt Gorilla
04-27-2013, 11:31 AM
It disgusts me how ignorant people can demand changes to something they don't understand and had no part of. Especially when those demanding changes can't even identify why GMOs are bad for you.You should see the people that write education legislation.

Fish
04-27-2013, 11:41 AM
You should see the people that write education legislation.

Like the brilliant Paul Broun?

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2521/10471364410513634776194.jpg

Pretty fucking sad. We should have seen it coming...

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/7522/32702gareppaulbrounevol.jpg

KILLER_CLOWN
04-27-2013, 11:49 AM
Like the brilliant Paul Broun?

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2521/10471364410513634776194.jpg

Pretty ****ing sad. We should have seen it coming...

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/7522/32702gareppaulbrounevol.jpg

Seems like a smart guy to me.

Fish
04-27-2013, 11:53 AM
Seems like a smart guy to me.

That's why it's terrifying...

KILLER_CLOWN
04-27-2013, 11:58 AM
That's why it's terrifying...

LMAO poor fish, abused by GMO's. There is an answer, I will pray for ya! ;)

Buehler445
04-28-2013, 11:13 PM
Good work Fish. Excellent posts in this thread.

KILLER_CLOWN
04-29-2013, 01:16 AM
New GMO labeling bill will be the ultimate test between the will of the people versus the greed and power of the biotech industry

Monday, April 29, 2013 by: Michelle Goldstein

(NaturalNews) In an exciting move in Washington, Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Congressman Peter DeFazio (D-OR) together have sponsored new federal legislation that requires the labeling of all genetically engineered food in the U.S. The Genetically Engineered Food Right-to-Know Act is the first national labeling bill to be introduced in Congress since 2010. U.S. citizens have demonstrated overwhelming support to label GMO foods in this country. Jeffrey Smith, founder of the Institute for Responsible Technology, has argued that GMO labeling could bring an end to the dangerous growth of GMOs. Genetically modified foods have consistently been shown to be dangerous to health in studies conducted by independently funded researchers. It is time for the U.S. to join other industrialized nations in their mandatory labeling policies.

Federal Labeling Bill enjoys widespread support
On April 24th, the new Federal Labeling Bill was proposed with the support of nine senators and 22 representatives. The bipartisan labeling bill has been supported by over 100 organizations and businesses including the Environmental Working Group, Just Label It, the Center for Environmental Health, and Lundberg Family Farms. This bill follows the passage last month of an amendment to the Senate budget resolution to require the labeling of GE fish.

Overwhelming majority of citizens are demanding GMO labeling
Consistently nearly 95 percent of American have demonstrated support for GM labeling. In October 2011, the Center for Food Safety filed a legal petition with the FDA to require labeling of all food produced using genetic engineering. In 2012, 55 members of Congress wrote a letter to FDA commissioner Hamburg in support of the petition. Over one million public comments have been submitted to the FDA supporting the CFS's legal petition for labeling. This is the largest public response ever received by the FDA.

In response to consumers demand for labeling of GM foods, 37 GE food labeling bills have been introduced in 21 states in 2013. Hawaii, Washington, Indiana, Missouri and Vermont are among the states with bills pending.

An important grass roots effort is being made to fight GMOs with an international protest against Monsanto. US citizens are participating across the country on May 25th, joining with citizens around the world. See http://occupy-monsanto.com/ for additional information.

US must join the majority of industrialized nations that require labeling
Sixty four countries require labeling of GE foods including Australia, South Africa, Brazil, Japan, the United Kingdom, South Korea, and the entire European Union. It is time for the US to label GMOs.

Genetically Engineered foods have no safety record
The American Academy of Environmental Medicine reports that "several animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with GM foods". GE foods have been linked to infertility, GI issues, organ damage, insulin and immune dysfunction and death. Thousands of sheep, buffalo and goats grazing on GE cotton in India have died. See http://www.responsibletechnology.org/ for more details.

GMO labels can significantly end dangerous GMO growth
The US has a strong market economy that is very sensitive to consumer demand. If GMO labeling laws reduce demand for GMO labeled foods, the market will change to meet this demand. This can equate to less GMO foods and more safe GMO free foods for consumers.

Take action
Contact legislators and ask for their support for the New Federal Labeling Bill. See http://salsa3.salsalabs.com for more details. Join fellow citizens in the March against Monsanto on May 25th. Check http://occupy-monsanto.com/ for more information. There is an important momentum for GM labels and it is critical that citizen voices be heard.

Sources for this article include:

http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org

http://salsa3.salsalabs.com
http://occupy-monsanto.com/

http://www.responsibletechnology.org/

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040118_Monsanto_GMO_labeling_Federal_Bill.html#ixzz2RpY74Mvr

BucEyedPea
04-29-2013, 04:14 PM
Where are the studies by fish to prove GMO's are perfectly safe?

Cephalic Trauma
04-29-2013, 05:20 PM
Good work Fish. Excellent posts in this thread.

This.

Fish
04-29-2013, 05:49 PM
Here's a few links for the ignorant gypsy hag...

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691511006399

http://www.agbioworld.org/biotech-info/articles/biotech-art/peer-reviewed-pubs.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies#References

HonestChieffan
04-29-2013, 08:00 PM
Can any of these nitwits actually name foods they eat that are the must be feared GMO?

chiefzilla1501
04-29-2013, 08:25 PM
Ohh boo ****ing hoo. You are the consumer. Let's not forget that. Someone else planted the food. Someone else tended to its growth. Someone else watered it. Someone else picked the food. Someone else gathered and transported the food. Someone else packaged the food. Someone else shipped the food to the supermarket. Someone else put the food on the shelf. So that you could simply drive your lazy ass to the supermarket.
This is really sad if you think that consumers shouldn't be protected. Perhaps we should go back to the days of diseased meat plants and pharma companies stuffing sugar pills and selling it off as medicine. But I probably deserve diseased meat, because I should be raising my own cows.


But yet, you're selfish enough to demand changes to this entire system, which you had absolutely no part of. Changes which would raise the price of nearly every item you buy. Which you would of course also bitch about. It would also reduce the profit of every single one of the people that actually had a hand in bringing that food to you, so you could simply consume it and make more demands. Each step of the process above was carried out by a different person, and they all would lose profit and be forced to make expensive changes their entire system.
What "demands"? That we ask businesses to label exactly what they put in their food? I'm not saying we should ban anything. I'm saying that there should be full transparency about exactly what is going into our foods, and then people can decide.

And you know what the result would be? 99.9999% of the products in the supermarket contain GMOs. But now each of those items costs at least $1 more than it used to. Because expensive changes had to be made at damn near every step of the process from planting to the supermarket shelf. All because you have an irrational fear of something you've been eating your entire life.

It disgusts me how ignorant people can demand changes to something they don't understand and had no part of. Especially when those demanding changes can't even identify why GMOs are bad for you. They posts pics of of ears of corn, and supposedly let the squirrel's taste preferences determine the quality and safety of GMOs. Squirrel brains seem appropriate I suppose...
I don't really care about GMOs. It doesn't affect what I buy and it probably never will. In much the same way I don't always buy organic. But irrational fear or not, people have a right to know what they are buying. You're right that much of the food in the food supply will have GMO in it. And a lot of people won't care, because they can get it cheaper. But there are some who do. And if you do care about it, who are you to tell them that they have to be forced to like it and accept it?