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Comrade Crapski
05-16-2013, 11:51 AM
The White House on Wednesday released 94 pages of emails between top administration and intelligence officials who helped shape the talking points about the attacks in Benghazi, Libya, that the CIA would provide to policymakers in both the legislative and executive branches.

The documents, first reported by THE WEEKLY STANDARD in articles here and here, directly contradict claims by White House press secretary Jay Carney and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that the revisions of those talking points were driven by the intelligence community and show heavy input from top Obama administration officials, particularly those at the State Department.

The emails provide further detail about the rewriting of the talking points during a 24-hour period from midday September 14 to midday September 15. As THE WEEKLY STANDARD previously reported, a briefing from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence shows that the big changes came in three waves – internally at the CIA, after email feedback from top administration officials, and during or after a meeting of high-ranking intelligence and national security officials the following morning.

The initial CIA changes softened some of the language about the participants in the Benghazi assault – from “Islamic extremists with ties to al Qaeda” to “Islamic extremists.” But CIA officials also added bullet points about the possible participation of Ansar al Sharia, an al Qaeda-linked jihadist group, and previous warnings about the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi. Those additions came out after the talking points were sent to “the interagency,” where the CIA’s final draft was further stripped down to little more than boilerplate. The half dozen references to terrorists – both in Benghazi and more generally – all but disappeared. Gone were references to al Qaeda, Ansar al Sharia, jihadists, Islamic extremists, etc. The only remaining mention was a note that “extremists” had participated in the attack.

As striking as what appears in the email traffic is what does not. There is no mention of the YouTube video that would become a central part of the administration’s explanation of the attacks to the American people until a brief mention in the subject line of emails coming out of an important meeting where further revisions were made.

Carney, in particular, is likely to face tough questioning about the contents of the emails because he made claims to reporters that were untrue. “The White House and the State Department have made clear that the single adjustment that was made to those talking points by either of those two – of these two institutions were changing the word ‘consulate’ to ‘diplomatic facility,’ because the word ‘consulate’ was inaccurate,” he told reporters on November 28, 2012.

That’s not true. An email sent at 9:15 PM on September 14, from an official in the CIA’s Office of Public Affairs to others at the agency, described the process this way. “The State Department had major reservations with much or most of the document. We revised the document with their concerns in mind.”

That directly contradicts what Carney said. It’s also difficult to reconcile with claims made by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during testimony she gave January 23 on Capitol Hill.

“It was an intelligence product,” she said, adding later that the “intelligence community was the principal decider about what went into talking points.” (See here for the original version of the talking points and the final one.)

Carney and other top Obama administration officials have long maintained that CIA officials revised the talking points with minimal input from Obama administration officials. The claim made little sense when they made it – why would CIA officials revise on their own a set of talking points they’d already finalized? The emails demonstrate clearly that it isn’t true.

Another CIA email, this one a draft of a message for CIA director David Petraeus, noted that the talking points process had “run into major problems,” in part because of the “major concerns” raised by the State Department. That same email reported that the issues would be revisited at the Deputies Committee meeting on Saturday morning.

Elsewhere, CIA officials seemed to understand that the document had been stripped of most of its content. An email from an official with the CIA’s Office of Terrorism Analysis, the office that drafted the original version of the talking points, signed off on the final version but seemed to understand that the new version wouldn’t please those who had requested it. “They are fine with me,” this CIA official wrote. “But, pretty sure HPSCI [the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence] won’t like them. :-)”

When Petraeus received the rewritten talking points, he objected. “Frankly, I’d just as soon not use this,” he wrote to a legislative affairs staffer. But he declined to put up a fight.

The documents answer some questions and raise many others. Did Hillary Clinton have any role in the efforts of State Department staffers to push for the many substantive revisions to the talking points? Clinton, who testified that she was a hands-on part of the State Department’s response to the attacks, has claimed she had nothing to do with the talking points.

And what about the administration’s claims that State and White House officials weren’t involved with substantive edits? In one email, Jake Sullivan, deputy chief of staff to Hillary Clinton, reports to State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland that he’s spoken with Obama’s top spokesman at the National Security Council, Tommy Vietor. “I spoke with Tommy. We’ll work through this in the morning and get comments back.”

In a separate email, he writes: “Talked to Tommy. We can make edits.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/newly-released-benghazi-emails-directly-contradict-white-house-claims_724603.html?nopager=1

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2012/05/president_obama_the_view.jpg

FD
05-16-2013, 12:09 PM
I suppose thats one interpretation...

Amnorix
05-16-2013, 12:14 PM
As striking as what appears in the email traffic is what does not. There is no mention of the YouTube video that would become a central part of the administration’s explanation of the attacks to the American people until a brief mention in the subject line of emails coming out of an important meeting where further revisions were made.


:shrug:

From start to finish, the document included the now-disproved assertion that the attacks in Benghazi were spurred by a protest over an anti-Muslim video that had originated in the U.S..

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324082604578485453453286058.html

FD
05-16-2013, 12:16 PM
:shrug:


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324082604578485453453286058.html

This has to be a disappointing day for the Benghazi-truthers. They have been spinning this whole tale of a scandal that will bring down Obama and Hillary, and in the end when all the facts are out the best they can do is point to one inaccurate statement by Jay freaking Carney.

Amnorix
05-16-2013, 12:20 PM
This has to be a disappointing day for the Benghazi-truthers. They have been spinning this whole tale of a scandal that will bring down Obama and Hillary, and in the end when all the facts are out the best they can do is point to one inaccurate statement by Jay freaking Carney.


I think Ringleader (on other threads) has it right -- the issue isn't really the immediate post-incident reaction (which seems to be a non-starter), it seems to be more what happened in the prior six or so months leading up to it. Were there requests made by the Ambassador or others in Libya that were ignored, etc.? Maybe the Republicans could make some hay there, because there doesn't seem to be anything post-event worthy of all this political grandstanding.

Comrade Crapski
05-16-2013, 12:33 PM
I suppose thats one interpretation...

:shrug:



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324082604578485453453286058.html

You've both already served notice you are nothing more than Barry's cum-dumpsters, so no need for this overkill.

listopencil
05-16-2013, 12:38 PM
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LiveSteam
05-16-2013, 12:41 PM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/942194_452428631508329_1150905168_n.jpg

Puts a hole new spin on/ Don't ask ,Don't tell

Amnorix
05-16-2013, 12:42 PM
You've both already served notice you are nothing more than Barry's cum-dumpsters, so no need for this overkill.


You are weirdly fixated on urine and semen. I'm sure some psychologist might be able to explain why, but in any event please keep your fantasies about men being "cum-dumpsters" to yourself thanks.

Comrade Crapski
05-16-2013, 12:46 PM
You are weirdly fixated on urine and semen. I'm sure some psychologist might be able to explain why, but in any event please keep your fantasies about men being "cum-dumpsters" to yourself thanks.

Piss Boy stay out of my threads. You have NOTHING to say. Nothing. You have no integrity or credibility. You are a shameless stooge for a cocksucking communist from Chicongo. It makes me sick just reading your username.

Comrade Crapski
05-16-2013, 12:48 PM
Puts a hole new spin on/ Don't ask ,Don't tell

There's an ongoing investigation, I can't comment on that right now...

go bowe
05-16-2013, 01:40 PM
Piss Boy stay out of my threads. You have NOTHING to say. Nothing. You have no integrity or credibility. You are a shameless stooge for a cocksucking communist from Chicongo. It makes me sick just reading your username.

yada dada doooo...

dat black kettle at it again...

Comrade Crapski
05-16-2013, 01:48 PM
yada dada doooo...

dat black kettle at it again...

Ah, yet another obama stooge boy, here to attack me.

:ZZZ:

Xanathol
05-16-2013, 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by Comrade Crapski View Post
As striking as what appears in the email traffic is what does not. There is no mention of the YouTube video that would become a central part of the administration’s explanation of the attacks to the American people until a brief mention in the subject line of emails coming out of an important meeting where further revisions were made.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Wall Street Journal
From start to finish, the document included the now-disproved assertion that the attacks in Benghazi were spurred by a protest over an anti-Muslim video that had originated in the U.S..
Both are playing stupid word games - see for yourself (http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/interactive/2013/05/politics/white-house-benghazi-emails/white-house-benghazi-emails.pdf). What is said as of the 14th - since prior emails were not released - is that they believe the attack was inspired by the Cairo riots. The video is not mentioned, but everyone knows the Cairo riots were at least partly in response to it. But the documents simply state that the Cairo riots were a believed inspiration; whether rioting to attack the US in general, rioting just to riot, or rioting over the video itself - is not specified. But each article took the absolute extreme position, in opposite directions.

Interesting to see that they've had warnings since April and even warned on the 10th of a call to riot / attack via social media. Considering this is what has been released, I'd LOVE to know what hasn't.

Amnorix
05-16-2013, 02:13 PM
Piss Boy

Your urine-guzzling obsession is rearing its ugly head again. It's not pretty to see.

stay out of my threads.

I'm sorry I'm interfering with "your" threads. Please show proof of ownership and the ChiefsPlanet rule where I can't respond and I'll gladly adhere to the rules. Don't ban me bro!

You have NOTHING to say. Nothing.

That's odd, since I'm posting. And my posting annoys you.

You have no integrity or credibility. You are a shameless stooge for a cocksucking communist from Chicongo. It makes me sick just reading your username.

Now it's cum-guzzling that's back to the forefront. Maybe there is a gay or fetish porn site you should be visiting instead of hanging out here. If there is a gayurinedrinkers[dot]com that should be perfect, but I sure as hell ain't looking it up or providing a link or anything, much as I'd like to help you out with that "problem" you have.

NTTAWWT of course.

Amnorix
05-16-2013, 02:14 PM
Both are playing stupid word games - see for yourself (http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/interactive/2013/05/politics/white-house-benghazi-emails/white-house-benghazi-emails.pdf). What is said as of the 14th - since prior emails were not released - is that they believe the attack was inspired by the Cairo riots. The video is not mentioned, but everyone knows the Cairo riots were at least partly in response to it. But the documents simply state that the Cairo riots were a believed inspiration; whether rioting to attack the US in general, rioting just to riot, or rioting over the video itself - is not specified. But each article took the absolute extreme position, in opposite directions.

Interesting to see that they've had warnings since April and even warned on the 10th of a call to riot / attack via social media. Considering this is what has been released, I'd LOVE to know what hasn't.


So the Wall Street Journal took the extreme liberal position? That's your argument?

Comrade Crapski
05-16-2013, 02:15 PM
Your urine-guzzling obsession is rearing its ugly head again. It's not pretty to see.



I'm sorry I'm interfering with "your" threads. Please show proof of ownership and the ChiefsPlanet rule where I can't respond and I'll gladly adhere to the rules. Don't ban me bro!



That's odd, since I'm posting. And my posting annoys you.



Now it's cum-guzzling that's back to the forefront. Maybe there is a gay or fetish porn site you should be visiting instead of hanging out here. If there is a gayurinedrinkers[dot]com that should be perfect, but I sure as hell ain't looking it up or providing a link or anything, much as I'd like to help you out with that "problem" you have.

NTTAWWT of course.

You're gonna wash barry's asshole out tonight with your tongue, aren'tcha big guy? That's a good dog!

Amnorix
05-16-2013, 02:21 PM
You're gonna wash barry's asshole out tonight with your tongue, aren'tcha big guy? That's a good dog!


I gotta say, my mind/imagination don't really go in that direction. Unlike yours (obviously).

jjjayb
05-16-2013, 02:26 PM
What is said as of the 14th - since prior emails were not released - is that they believe the attack was inspired by the Cairo riots. The video is not mentioned, but everyone knows the Cairo riots were at least partly in response to it. But the documents simply state that the Cairo riots were a believed inspiration; whether rioting to attack the US in general, rioting just to riot, or rioting over the video itself - is not specified. But each article took the absolute extreme position, in opposite directions.

Interesting to see that they've had warnings since April and even warned on the 10th of a call to riot / attack via social media. Considering this is what has been released, I'd LOVE to know what hasn't.

And people keep pushing the Cairo riots were spawned by the Youtube video when that's not exactly the case.

Xanathol
05-16-2013, 03:08 PM
So the Wall Street Journal took the extreme liberal position? That's your argument?No one said 'liberal' but you. I said an extreme position, ie. an absolute that was not absolute.

And people keep pushing the Cairo riots were spawned by the Youtube video when that's not exactly the case.I did say 'partly'.

Radar Chief
05-16-2013, 03:10 PM
yada dada doooo...

Damn you Go Bowe, now I’ve got that song stuck in my head. :cuss:

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WhawhaWhat
05-16-2013, 03:33 PM
You are weirdly fixated on urine and semen. I'm sure some psychologist might be able to explain why, but in any event please keep your fantasies about men being "cum-dumpsters" to yourself thanks.

Obviously closeted.

Comrade Crapski
05-16-2013, 04:03 PM
I gotta say, my mind/imagination don't really go in that direction. Unlike yours (obviously).

Imagination? Sheeit, you live it, scumbag.

cosmo20002
05-16-2013, 04:05 PM
You are weirdly fixated on urine and semen. I'm sure some psychologist might be able to explain why, but in any event please keep your fantasies about men being "cum-dumpsters" to yourself thanks.

I'm absolutely convinced he has paranoid psychosis. Not in a "that guy is crazy" way, but as in a literal, diagnosable condition. His violent and generally sexual rants should alarm anyone who actually knows him personally.

That, or he is a really dedicated troll.

Comrade Crapski
05-16-2013, 04:08 PM
I'm absolutely convinced he has paranoid psychosis. Not in a "that guy is crazy" way, but as in a literal, diagnosable condition. His violent and generally sexual rants should alarm anyone who actually knows him personally.

That, or he is a really dedicated troll.

4 people were murdered in Benghazi, fighting courageously for 7 hours, waiting for help that never came. Dear Leader couldn't be bothered.

And the next day when he woke up, all he could think about was how this event was going to adversely affect his re-election, and how could he spin it.

And you sit here and laugh and attack me and call me crazy.

You are a worthless scumbag but you already know that.

So does everybody else on in the Holy Land DC forum.

cosmo20002
05-16-2013, 04:25 PM
4 people were murdered in Benghazi, fighting courageously for 7 hours, waiting for help that never came. Dear Leader couldn't be bothered.

And the next day when he woke up, all he could think about was how this event was going to adversely affect his re-election, and how could he spin it.

And you sit here and laugh and attack me and call me crazy.

You are a worthless scumbag but you already know that.

So does everybody else on in the Holy Land DC forum.

Yep. Well, we're past crazy. Paranoid psychopath. With some sort of violent/sexual side issues.

Aries Walker
05-17-2013, 07:57 AM
So, I've been reading. Here's what I've got:

1. (explosions, gunfire.)
2. CIA: "Hey everyone, tell them it was terrorists."
3. State Dept: "Hmm, no, let's not say 'terrorists'."
4. Administration: "Okay."
5. David Petraeus: "I don't like what you're telling us to say."
6. Susan Rice (on TV): "It wasn't terrorists."
7. (turns out it was terrorists.)
8. Jay Carney (to everyone): "The State Dept. never said 'let's not say terrorists'."
9. Emails: "Yes, they totally did."
10. Lots of people: "Busted!"

Am I about right?

WhawhaWhat
05-17-2013, 08:36 AM
So, I've been reading. Here's what I've got:

1. (explosions, gunfire.)
2. CIA: "Hey everyone, tell them it was terrorists."
3. State Dept: "Hmm, no, let's not say 'terrorists'."
4. Administration: "Okay."
5. David Petraeus: "I don't like what you're telling us to say."
6. Susan Rice (on TV): "It wasn't terrorists."
7. (turns out it was terrorists.)
8. Jay Carney (to everyone): "The State Dept. never said 'let's not say terrorists'."
9. Emails: "Yes, they totally did."
10. Lots of people: "Busted!"

Am I about right?

I am still trying to figure out why it matters if it was terrorists or not. The end result was the same whether it was or wasn't.

Comrade Crapski
05-17-2013, 09:26 AM
So, I've been reading. Here's what I've got:

1. (explosions, gunfire.)
2. CIA: "Hey everyone, tell them it was terrorists."
3. State Dept: "Hmm, no, let's not say 'terrorists'."
4. Administration: "Okay."
5. David Petraeus: "I don't like what you're telling us to say."
6. Susan Rice (on TV): "It wasn't terrorists."
7. (turns out it was terrorists.)
8. Jay Carney (to everyone): "The State Dept. never said 'let's not say terrorists'."
9. Emails: "Yes, they totally did."
10. Lots of people: "Busted!"

Am I about right?

Sounds right. Oh, oh yeah. Barry said he had no idea about any of this. Or anything else.

cosmo20002
05-17-2013, 09:26 AM
I am still trying to figure out why it matters if it was terrorists or not. The end result was the same whether it was or wasn't.

I really thought the 'terrorist' aspect was a given. What else would someone be if they fired on and attacked a US consulate?

I'm still trying to figure out why it matters if the terrorists were motivated by a video (which was the CIA's immediate determination due to other video-related protests in the Middle East) or if the terrorists were motivated by just a general hatred of the US.

As you said, the end result was the same either way.

Comrade Crapski
05-17-2013, 09:46 AM
Poor Barry. He doesn't know what the heck is going on! He's just a crazy, mixed up girl!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V_SL6X3b76c/UWXFSwb5JhI/AAAAAAAAbw8/9Il3v4DYsXY/s640/obama_baseball.gif

Xanathol
05-17-2013, 10:55 AM
I'm still trying to figure out why it matters if the terrorists were motivated by a video (which was the CIA's immediate determination due to other video-related protests in the Middle East) or if the terrorists were motivated by just a general hatred of the US.

As you said, the end result was the same either way.
And there you go putting words into the CIA's mouth again. The CIA - as of September 14th, since that is all that has been released - had talking points that the attack may have been inspired by the riots in Cairo, which themselves were only partly going on over the video. Saying the CIA 'immediately' ( and insinuating of their own accord ) blamed the video is a lie, period, end of discussion.

Why does it matter?! Obama seems to understand why it matters, for he and his were the ones to cover it up. He wanted to sell that the 'war on terror' was won, that he won it. Going into an election, if 'terrorists' attacked a diplomat, it would reflect poorly on him. Especially if it came to light that the CIA warned as far back as April and as recent as the day before the attack, that no help was sent and in fact, help denied.

What does it matter, seriously? To ask that, you must be like Hilliary - dishonest or a dumbass... maybe both.

WhawhaWhat
05-17-2013, 11:01 AM
Why does it matter?! Obama seems to understand why it matters, for he and his were the ones to cover it up. He wanted to sell that the 'war on terror' was won, that he won it.

Are we going to pretend that a spin job by the President and his administration to the public is something new?

http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/foreigndesk/2007/05/01/mn_accomplished499x377.jpg

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003187723/3144357552_1537206342_bill_clinton_ff_xlarge_answer_2_xlarge.jpeg

stevieray
05-17-2013, 11:08 AM
Are we going to pretend that a spin job by the President and his administration to the public is something new?

http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/foreigndesk/2007/05/01/mn_accomplished499x377.jpg

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003187723/3144357552_1537206342_bill_clinton_ff_xlarge_answer_2_xlarge.jpeg

...that is definitely an excellent "excuse" for all screw ups in the future.

:rolleyes:

WhawhaWhat
05-17-2013, 11:12 AM
...that is definitely an excellent "excuse" for all screw ups in the future.

:rolleyes:

You are missing the point entirely. Why do we care now? Is this anything more than Republicans seeing an angle to earn some points with their base by attacking the democratic President on something that has happened many, many times before?

stevieray
05-17-2013, 11:19 AM
You are missing the point entirely.
i'm not missing any point, this tactic has been beaten to death every time ANY criticism of Obama is mentioned...

It's partisan
It's deflection
It's dishonest
It's childish.."mooooooooooooooooom, all the other kids....."

WhawhaWhat
05-17-2013, 11:32 AM
i'm not missing any point, this tactic has been beaten to death every time ANY criticism of Obama is mentioned...

It's partisan
It's deflection
It's dishonest
It's childish.."mooooooooooooooooom, all the other kids....."

So no concrete reason to care about this one?

cosmo20002
05-17-2013, 11:34 AM
Why does it matter?! Obama seems to understand why it matters, for he and his were the ones to cover it up. He wanted to sell that the 'war on terror' was won, that he won it. Going into an election, if 'terrorists' attacked a diplomat, it would reflect poorly on him. Especially if it came to light that the CIA warned as far back as April and as recent as the day before the attack, that no help was sent and in fact, help denied.



This is just dumb. He has never said the 'war on terror' is over, and no one will ever say that. Who would ever think that? It takes one idiot to commit an act of terrorism. The "war" against it doesn't have an end point and its ridiculous to say anyone has claimed it has been won.

Xanathol
05-17-2013, 02:04 PM
This is just dumb. He has never said the 'war on terror' is over, and no one will ever say that. Who would ever think that? It takes one idiot to commit an act of terrorism. The "war" against it doesn't have an end point and its ridiculous to say anyone has claimed it has been won.So ill-informed ( not surprising ) or dishonest. As reported (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/04/hooray-obama-official-claims-war-on-terror-is-over/):
The war on terror is over,” a senior official in the State Department official tells the National Journal. “Now that we have killed most of al Qaida, now that people have come to see legitimate means of expression, people who once might have gone into al Qaida see an opportunity for a legitimate Islamism.”

mikey23545
05-17-2013, 02:21 PM
This is just dumb. He has never said the 'war on terror' is over, and no one will ever say that. Who would ever think that? It takes one idiot to commit an act of terrorism. The "war" against it doesn't have an end point and its ridiculous to say anyone has claimed it has been won.

So ill-informed ( not surprising ) or dishonest. As reported (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/04/hooray-obama-official-claims-war-on-terror-is-over/):

Quote:
The war on terror is over,” a senior official in the State Department official tells the National Journal. “Now that we have killed most of al Qaida, now that people have come to see legitimate means of expression, people who once might have gone into al Qaida see an opportunity for a legitimate Islamism.”


Checkmate.

BigChiefTablet
05-17-2013, 02:23 PM
If it wasn't on HuffPo it didn't happen. /Cosmo

Comrade Crapski
05-17-2013, 02:26 PM
...that is definitely an excellent "excuse" for all screw ups in the future.

:rolleyes:

Please don't ever quote that asshole in my thread again. I never would have seen his annoying stupid ass post.

WhawhaWhat
05-17-2013, 02:48 PM
Please don't ever quote that asshole in my thread again. I never would have seen his annoying stupid ass post.

I wonder what I was blocked for?

cosmo20002
05-17-2013, 03:14 PM
So ill-informed ( not surprising ) or dishonest. As reported (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/04/hooray-obama-official-claims-war-on-terror-is-over/):

"a senior official" OK. :facepalm:

Loneiguana
05-17-2013, 04:44 PM
Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/16/republicans-benghazi-emails_n_3289428.html

"One day after The White House released 100 pages of Benghazi emails, a report has surfaced alleging that Republicans released a set with altered text.

CBS News reported Thursday that leaked versions sent out by the GOP last Friday had visible differences than Wednesday's official batch. Two correspondences that were singled out in the report came from National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes and State Department Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland.

The GOP version of Rhodes' comment, according to CBS News: "We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities, including those of the State Department, and we don't want to undermine the FBI investigation."

The White House email: "We need to resolve this in a way that respects all of the relevant equities, particularly the investigation."

The GOP version of Nuland's comment, according to CBS News: The penultimate point is a paragraph talking about all the previous warnings provided by the Agency (CIA) about al-Qaeda's presence and activities of al-Qaeda."

The White House email: "The penultimate point could be abused by members to beat the State Department for not paying attention to Agency warnings."

The news parallels a Tuesday CNN report which initially introduced the contradiction between what was revealed in a White House Benghazi email version, versus what was reported in media outlets. On Monday, Mother Jones noted that the Republicans' interim report included the correct version of the emails, signaling that more malice and less incompetence may have been at play with the alleged alterations.

In that April interim report on Benghazi (which Buck noted), the House Republicans cited these emails (in footnotes 56 and 57) to note an important point: "State Department emails reveal senior officials had 'serious concerns' about the talking points, because Members of Congress might attack the State Department for 'not paying attention to Agency warnings' about the growing threat in Benghazi."
Despite the White House's Wednesday move to release emails, Republicans continued to call for more information on Thursday.

"While these hundred are good and they shed light on what happened, we have nearly 25,000 that they haven't released," Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) told Fox News on Thursday."

Xanathol
05-17-2013, 05:05 PM
ROFL this is the political version of a child blaming a sibling for something they did.

Why would the GOP need to alter anything? It's already bad enough. If anybody altered anything, you can bet your last dollar it was the White House - the emails chains themselves ( no matter which 'version' ) prove they are use to altering things.

Loneiguana
05-18-2013, 07:29 AM
ROFL this is the political version of a child blaming a sibling for something they did.

Why would the GOP need to alter anything? It's already bad enough. If anybody altered anything, you can bet your last dollar it was the White House - the emails chains themselves ( no matter which 'version' ) prove they are use to altering things.


Forged documents designed to libel the President isn't a scandal?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/d37322d3de3ba50d9aa2f13f251c661a/tumblr_mmxzvffLrg1sp9f9go1_500.jpg

Comrade Crapski
05-18-2013, 07:46 AM
Forged documents designed to libel the President isn't a scandal?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/d37322d3de3ba50d9aa2f13f251c661a/tumblr_mmxzvffLrg1sp9f9go1_500.jpg

You can suck a golf ball through a garden hose, right?

Loneiguana
05-18-2013, 07:52 AM
You can suck a golf ball through a garden hose, right?

Never tried. And you couldn't afford me anyway.

How is this related to Republicans altering Emails for political gain?

Comrade Crapski
05-18-2013, 07:54 AM
I love you Barry. I will always love you.

http://www.beersteak.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/barack-obama-topless-beach-05.jpg

Loneiguana
05-18-2013, 07:58 AM
[Lame distraction attempt ]


Thanks for posting a picture from a site that Chrome finds dangerous. I now get a warning every time I come to this specific page.

Also, that is not a defense against altered emails.

NewChief
05-18-2013, 08:00 AM
I have a hard time believing that republicans would be stupid enough to doctor emails. I have a much easier time believing that Dems somehow tricked the Republicans into releasing doctored emails or that it was a mistake of some sort. It would work nicely for Dems to be able to shift attention from Obama admin's culpability to supposed underhanded tactics by GOP.


What was the previous instance where something like that happened? Everyone got in an uproar about something that was supposedly leaked by GOP, then it turned out the Dems were in collusion with some journalist and they were the actual source?

Comrade Crapski
05-18-2013, 08:01 AM
Poor Barry. He doesn't know what the heck is going on! He's just a crazy, mixed up girl!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V_SL6X3b76c/UWXFSwb5JhI/AAAAAAAAbw8/9Il3v4DYsXY/s640/obama_baseball.gif

RedNeckRaider
05-18-2013, 08:03 AM
Never tried. And you couldn't afford me anyway.

How is this related to Republicans altering Emails for political gain?

The reality of this situation is both parties have proven time and time they are incompetent and corrupt. What I do find strange is people like yourself willing to overlook, spin and defend what has gone on with this administration. I am middle of the road and believe I am part of the true majority in this country. We have no party and are forced to pick whichever side we lean to~

Comrade Crapski
05-23-2013, 11:21 AM
South Carolina Republican Trey Gowdy discussed former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her role in the Benghazi scandal. He also questioned the selective method by which the administration has revealed what happened on September 11, 2012.

“You can’t lie to Congress whether you’re sworn in or not. …I would like the chance to ask her [Clinton] some questions and hopefully I will get that chance at some point. … If you want to know what happened in Benghazi I would think that you would talk to everyone who might potentially have first hand knowledge. If 10 people watch a car wreck why would you talk to three?”


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/23/gowdy-on-white-house-benghazi-story-if-ten-people-watch-a-car-wreck-why-would-you-talk-to-three-video/#ixzz2U8aALEME

go bowe
07-20-2013, 08:55 PM
Piss Boy stay out of my threads. You have NOTHING to say. Nothing. You have no integrity or credibility. You are a shameless stooge for a cocksucking communist from Chicongo. It makes me sick just reading your username.

that's funny, reading your user name makes me laugh...

you do talk about urine and cocksucking quite a bit, perhaps someone once urinated down your throat while you were sucking his cock? :shrug:

Comrade Crapski
07-21-2013, 08:48 AM
that's funny, reading your user name makes me laugh...

perhaps someone once urinated down your throat while you were sucking his cock? :shrug:

Uh no.. that's what Holders People do to each other in prison. Thenwhen they get out, they have sex with women and spread AIDS. and all the black yoofs try and emulate them by wearing their pants real low showing off their booty, they look at them like they are something to aspire to be. LMAO

No wonder why ya'll are so fucked up.

Perhaps you went to law school paid for by white taxpayers and the the only reason you got in is because of affirmative action?

Dave Lane
07-21-2013, 10:28 AM
No1curr

The_Grand_Illusion
07-21-2013, 11:00 AM
No1curr

What a childish, ignorant statement. You have the left outraged over a false racism narrative being pushed over the death of a black person. Much of it flamed by the incompetence of this administration.

Benghazi is turning out to also be incompetence and lies by this administration that led to the deaths of 4 Americans. Where is the outrage, Dave? You libs are really sick in the head.

TGI

LiveSteam
07-21-2013, 11:23 AM
I have a kill list

Brock
07-21-2013, 07:29 PM
What a childish, ignorant statement. You have the left outraged over a false racism narrative being pushed over the death of a black person. Much of it flamed by the incompetence of this administration.

Benghazi is turning out to also be incompetence and lies by this administration that led to the deaths of 4 Americans. Where is the outrage, Dave? You libs are really sick in the head.

TGI

Seriously, nobody gives a shit.

Brock
07-21-2013, 07:29 PM
I have a lisp

P

LiveSteam
07-21-2013, 08:04 PM
P

& a hot girlfriend to. Queer

The_Grand_Illusion
07-22-2013, 11:42 AM
Seriously, nobody gives a shit.

:shake:

4 Americans died and we need to find out what happened, what went wrong and all the incompetence involved. You listen way too much to this liberal culture because that is what they want you to think, so this will all go away. Baa, Brock.

TGI

cosmo20002
07-22-2013, 11:46 AM
:shake:

4 Americans died and we need to find out what happened, what went wrong and all the incompetence involved. You listen way too much to this liberal culture because that is what they want you to think, so this will all go away. Baa, Brock.

TGI

Problem is, people like you will never be satisified with any result unless it is the result you want to happen--in this case, Obama tried and executed.

You're still convinced Obama's birth certificate, Soc. Sec. #, etc. is fake, so we know what your mindset is.

The_Grand_Illusion
07-22-2013, 11:50 AM
Problem is, people like you will never be satisified with any result unless it is the result you want to happen--in this case, Obama tried and executed.

You're still convinced Obama's birth certificate, Soc. Sec. #, etc. is fake, so we know what your mindset is.


And you continue to Alinsky-ize issues. There is nothing wrong with checking out Sheriff Joe's investigation and all the problems they found but you use Alinsky to try to downplay everything. You do it alot here on many issues.

Furthermore, we know just about every minute Obama was the night they got Bin Laden, along with pictures, but they can't come forward and be honest with us what really happened that night with Obama and where he was. Yes, there is plenty that has come out to be suspicious but continue to downplay and deceive others for the sake of your party.

TGI

Brock
07-22-2013, 11:52 AM
:shake:

4 Americans died and we need to find out what happened, what went wrong and all the incompetence involved. You listen way too much to this liberal culture because that is what they want you to think, so this will all go away. Baa, Brock.

TGI

Nobody anywhere is thinking or talking about this. Get out of your talk radio echo chamber and get some air.

LiveSteam
07-22-2013, 11:52 AM
Problem is, people like you will never be satisified with any result unless it is the result you want to happen--in this case, Obama tried and executed.

You're still convinced Obama's birth certificate, Soc. Sec. #, etc. is fake, so we know what your mindset is.

Funny that no one at Columbia university seems to have ever seen Obama on campus. Not 1 person admits to knowing him at Columbia.

The_Grand_Illusion
07-22-2013, 11:56 AM
Nobody anywhere is thinking or talking about this. Get out of your talk radio echo chamber and get some air.

Well, if you really believe that, then that shows just how powerful and corrupt your liberal world has become. It really is sad you would dismiss the deaths of 4 Americans like that. You are wrong though as Congress is still investigating this. Just because your liberal world is ignoring it, doesn't mean it is going away.

TGI

cosmo20002
07-22-2013, 11:57 AM
And you continue to Alinsky-ize issues. There is nothing wrong with checking out Sheriff Joe's investigation and all the problems they found but you use Alinsky to try to downplay everything. You do it alot here on many issues.

:LOL:

I have no idea how to even go about Alinsky-izing anything. Maybe it just comes natural. Other than that he was invented as a left-wing boogeyman
a few years ago, I know absolutely nothing about him.

The_Grand_Illusion
07-22-2013, 11:59 AM
:LOL:

I have no idea how to even go about Alinsky-izing anything. Maybe it just comes natural. Other than that he was invented as a left-wing boogeyman
a few years ago, I know absolutely nothing about him.

I agree, deception for you and your party comes natural.

TGI

cosmo20002
07-22-2013, 12:00 PM
Funny that no one at Columbia university seems to have ever seen Obama on campus. Not 1 person admits to knowing him at Columbia.

I'd ask for a link, but I'm actually pretty sure there are plenty out there making such ridiculous assertions. Anyway, I know you don't believe this stuff.

LiveSteam
07-22-2013, 12:02 PM
I know you don't believe this stuff.

Its not that i do or dnt believe it. I really dnt give a fuck one way or the other.
Obama could be born next door to me.& I'd still hate the half bread.

Brock
07-22-2013, 12:02 PM
Well, if you really believe that, then that shows just how powerful and corrupt your liberal world has become. It really is sad you would dismiss the deaths of 4 Americans like that. You are wrong though as Congress is still investigating this. Just because your liberal world is ignoring it, doesn't mean it is going away.

TGI

I will predict this: this will die the same lonely death as your birth certificate nonsense nobody cared about.

The_Grand_Illusion
07-22-2013, 12:05 PM
I will predict this: this will die the same lonely death as your birth certificate nonsense nobody cared about.

:shake:

LiveSteam
07-22-2013, 12:07 PM
I will predict this: this will die the same lonely death as your birth certificate nonsense nobody cared about.

You really think this wont be brought up again & used against Hillary?
You cant possibly be that gay. I MEAN STUPID

cosmo20002
07-22-2013, 12:07 PM
Its not that i do or dnt believe it. I really dnt give a **** one way or the other.
Obama could be born next door to me.& I'd still hate the half bread.

I think you give a shit--I mean, it would be kind of a cool story if the guy really was a Kenyan who completely made up his life story and none of it was true.

Anyway, this was written by someone who CLAIMS to have known him.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/recollections-of-obamas-ex-roommate/

LiveSteam
07-22-2013, 12:09 PM
I think you give a shit--I mean, it would be kind of a cool story if the guy really was a Kenyan who completely made up his life story and none of it was true.

Anyway, this was written by someone who CLAIMS to have known him.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/recollections-of-obamas-ex-roommate/

Will not read, because I really dnt care anymore

FishingRod
07-22-2013, 02:11 PM
When you screw up and take responsibility ( Bay of pigs) people usually forgive and often respect you for it. When you screw up lie about it and try to shift the blame elsewhere (Watergate and Bengasi). It pisses people off and they want to dig in and see what else you are lying about. It is just as simple as that. Additionally when people’s lives appear less important than covering one’s own behind it really pisses people off. Clinton and Bush Sr. in my opinion both did that and I still hold a grudge.

Not to mention you couldn’t swing a dead cat during the campaign and not hit someone pretending Obama personally went over and choked OBL to death and claiming our enemies were decimated and on the run. Not being able to protect our embassies made a lot of people look stupid for acting this way.

Setsuna
07-22-2013, 02:34 PM
Just awful

Garcia Bronco
07-22-2013, 02:38 PM
"What does it matter now!"

I'll never forgive that woman for that. Never.

Setsuna
07-22-2013, 02:58 PM
"What does it matter now!"

I'll never forgive that woman for that. Never.

Who said that???

LiveSteam
07-22-2013, 03:06 PM
Who said that???

Hillary Clinton

Fish
07-22-2013, 03:48 PM
:shake:

4 Americans died and we need to find out what happened, what went wrong and all the incompetence involved. You listen way too much to this liberal culture because that is what they want you to think, so this will all go away. Baa, Brock.

TGI

An American citizen dies almost every 15-20 seconds. The only reason you care about these 4 is because you think it makes Obama look bad.

BigChiefTablet
07-22-2013, 03:58 PM
An American citizen dies almost every 15-20 seconds. The only reason you care about these 4 is because you think it makes Obama look bad.

And why did we care about Trayvon Martin again?

Fish
07-22-2013, 04:01 PM
And why did we care about Trayvon Martin again?

Not sure who you mean by "We". I don't give a fuck about Trayvon.

Comrade Crapski
07-22-2013, 04:08 PM
An American citizen dies almost every 15-20 seconds. The only reason you care about these 4 is because you think it makes Obama look bad.

Yeah 'cos we can't find anything legitimate to make Barry look bad. :rolleyes:

We have to make shit up. :drool:

And I don't "think" it makes Barry look bad, I know it makes him look bad, as it should. The silly bastard went to sleep, knowing that 4 Americans were in grave danger, woke up the next day and went campaigning. His only concern when he was told 4 Americans were brutally murdered was how or if it was going to adversely affect his re-election.

Then the worthless POS concocted a BS story and blamed the whole thing on a youtube video nobody saw. He fucking lied straight up to the parents of those murdered men.

I can see why scumbags like you and Dave Loon would want to keep defending him.

LiveSteam
07-22-2013, 06:39 PM
Yeah 'cos we can't find anything legitimate to make Barry look bad. :rolleyes:

We have to make shit up. :drool:

And I don't "think" it makes Barry look bad, I know it makes him look bad, as it should. The silly bastard went to sleep, knowing that 4 Americans were in grave danger, woke up the next day and went campaigning. His only concern when he was told 4 Americans were brutally murdered was how or if it was going to adversely affect his re-election.

Then the worthless POS concocted a BS story and blamed the whole thing on a youtube video nobody saw. He fucking lied straight up to the parents of those murdered men.

I can see why scumbags like you and Dave Loon would want to keep defending him.

:clap:

mikey23545
07-22-2013, 09:10 PM
Yeah 'cos we can't find anything legitimate to make Barry look bad. :rolleyes:

We have to make shit up. :drool:

And I don't "think" it makes Barry look bad, I know it makes him look bad, as it should. The silly bastard went to sleep, knowing that 4 Americans were in grave danger, woke up the next day and went campaigning. His only concern when he was told 4 Americans were brutally murdered was how or if it was going to adversely affect his re-election.

Then the worthless POS concocted a BS story and blamed the whole thing on a youtube video nobody saw. He ****ing lied straight up to the parents of those murdered men.

I can see why scumbags like you and Dave Loon would want to keep defending him.


Yep.

The incident would have meant a trip straight to the unemployment line for any Republican president, possibly to an impeachment hearing.

For Hussein? Another four years.

The_Grand_Illusion
07-25-2013, 05:17 PM
Sean Smith's Mother speaks out about the president's comments about this being a "phony scandal".

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/6tO3cB0plZc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This president and his supporters are such POS's.

TGI

Bwana
07-25-2013, 05:23 PM
Sean Smith's Mother speaks out about the president's comments about this being a "phony scandal".

<IFRAME height=315 src="//www.youtube.com/embed/6tO3cB0plZc" frameBorder=0 width=420 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>

This president and his supporters are such POS's.

TGI

Things are about to heat up a bit for Barry and his crew.

Comrade Crapski
07-27-2013, 12:39 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07/breaking-us-benghazi-hero-waited-20-hours-for-help-with-a-shredded-leg-while-obama-campaigned-in-las-vegas/

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m501/outsider854/HillClint/Ryce_zps6b1706cc.jpg

go bowe
07-27-2013, 12:46 PM
Things are about to heat up a bit for Barry and his crew.

maybe not...

it's the same old people carrying torches and pitchforks...

if they're not outraged by one thing there's also something new coming down the pike....

it's the same heat from the same people, different day, same deal...

Comrade Crapski
07-27-2013, 12:50 PM
I'm just glad the murderers were arrested and brought to justice, just like Barry said they would.

:drool:

go bowe
07-27-2013, 12:57 PM
give it time...

hillary will catch 'em when she gets elected, count on it...

The_Grand_Illusion
07-27-2013, 03:05 PM
maybe not...

it's the same old people carrying torches and pitchforks...

if they're not outraged by one thing there's also something new coming down the pike....

it's the same heat from the same people, different day, same deal...

Man, you libs/progs/dems sure have gotten astoundingly arrogant. I said long ago, the more you see your statism fail in practice, the loonier you are going to get defending it. I can understand why many lawyers are libs/progs/dems, embrace statism, because the bigger the government, the more laws, the more work for you. I get the self-interest and so many of the others big government benefits, but to brush these scandals off is just sad. This is exactly why Obama threw out the talking points, “phony scandal”. He knows how to play his base like a fiddle.

These scandals are anything but phony, people died in Fast & Furious and Benghazi. We also need to find out more about what happened with the IRS & NSA. It's a shame your culture has gotten so powerful it can deceive, lie, and distort in order to keep these issues out of the mainstream or downplayed. You have an administration that got caught lying to the American people about a video and you have your whole culture, including your media, that tried to help pass it off as so in order to win an election. They lied to the American people but you statists didn't even care, protecting your government power is more important. Then they tried to push a racist narrative out of Florida with the Trayvon Martin case. They were able to distort the facts and it wasn't even a white on black issue or even about race, but they continued to push that. Do you even realize with the IRS holding down and scrutinizing so many Tea Party and conservative groups that it effectively kept these groups from participating in the last presidential voting process? Do you not see how wrong or wrong any of this behavior is? I guess that's OK with you statists as it protects your precious ideology/party and ultimately, your big government, a government that is way beyond broke.

TGI

Brock
07-27-2013, 03:08 PM
Everybody who doesn't follow your line of thinking is a lib and a statist. I love extremist cunts like you.

The_Grand_Illusion
07-27-2013, 03:11 PM
Everybody who doesn't follow your line of thinking is a lib and a statist. I love extremist ****s like you.

Well, that's what they've evolved in to. They've come to value government, to the tune of a 17 trillion dollar debt, more than they value freedom. Sorry, you can't see that.

TGI

Brock
07-27-2013, 03:16 PM
Well, that's what they've evolved in to. They've come to value government, to the tune of a 17 trillion dollar debt, more than they value freedom. Sorry, you can't see that.

TGI

I value freedom more than you do, probably. Not being an idealogue dumbass, I point the finger at people in both parties. You are simply a right wing kookoobird who pretends to think for himself, but merely regurgitates what he heard on am radio at lunch the other day.

The_Grand_Illusion
07-27-2013, 03:22 PM
I value freedom more than you do, probably. Not being an idealogue dumbass, I point the finger at people in both parties. You are simply a right wing kookoobird who pretends to think for himself, but merely regurgitates what he heard on am radio at lunch the other day.

When did valuing the most freedom, with the least amount of government, become such a bad thing? It's exactly what conservatism and the Tea Party have evolved in to. It just goes to show how corrupt this statist culture has become because, like you, it demonizes them. That's exactly what I stand for, not sure what the heck you are talking about but ramble on. Oh and BTW, I rarely listen to talk radio so you are once again, wrong on that.

TGI

Comrade Crapski
08-01-2013, 10:35 AM
http://moonbattery.com/Phony-Scandals.jpg

Comrade Crapski
08-06-2013, 10:23 AM
Judge Pirro rips Barry and the FBI a new asshole:

http://moonbattery.com/?p=34373

ROFL